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runic sand Sep 18, 2024, 1:02 PM

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@vale raft can you do the honors top dog?

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 1:03 PM

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Hey yeah, I’m on my way to work @vivid dune If you’re okay with waiting for a bit glad to look over and try to help

runic sand Sep 18, 2024, 1:04 PM

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This guy man, I love you big dog, thanks

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 1:07 PM

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yeah i got time

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im in +'s atm going for ksm

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 1:08 PM

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Gl homie. I drive an hour or so in trafffic. But I’m going through this log dw. SoCute

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 1:10 PM

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appreciate it

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havent raided with rogue since cata retail, so theres a lot of bad muscle memory that i can feel. I play the AoE M+ Bleed build very well, its just raids

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 1:38 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/R4BAhJ6FtzG3kYqC

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I do have a normal log from today too, for a bigger assessment pool

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Okay I’m here and did some initial, looking now - heroic sikran is a decent log to look at

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Oh this is an easy one

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You’re not shiving properly

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Also your opener is way off

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vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 2:38 PM

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yeah, i've started shiving only during kingsbane

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oh, explain the opener?

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 2:38 PM

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You also need to shiv before kb for initial hit

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Well

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You want to envenom before kb for the buff

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You don’t want a global of dm to have and used

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In reality, you’d probably push dm down three/four globals

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 2:39 PM

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Draw out dm?

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and focus on the KB opener?

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 2:39 PM

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Snd first, then ER, then if you crit hit envenom, If you don’t mut then envenom, dm> shiv > kb, start your envenom loops

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You want an envenom rolling before you hit kb

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You also want to shiv the beginning and end of kb

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LE’s KB timeline and Whispyr’s weak aura pack have this info built in and are helpful to me

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 2:41 PM

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yeah shiv before it goes out and shiv at the last several seconds

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Ye

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You’re rawdogging your shivs for no reason

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Just to maximize

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Uses

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But in reality best use is to just hold for kb

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 2:41 PM

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Just did an lfr to help a guildy get tier and after doing the shiv properly

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i focused ONLY on Ovi'nax bcause i was ST spec

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and still dominated aoe specs

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It made quite the substantial difference, just a small tweak

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 2:42 PM

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You’re already getting there

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vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 2:42 PM

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yeah i been using shivs for extra cp

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is garrote, rupture and KB snapshotted at point of cast

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or is it retroactive

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so i can pot during dm?

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or pot pre-dot

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 2:49 PM

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Are you asking if the bleeds/poison apps happen if you cast them before?

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If so yes

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Dm automatically duplicates whatever is running

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Kb getting that boost on initial hit is juice tho

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 2:50 PM

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Nah nah

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Prepot and trinkets

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Can I use it at the point of dm

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Or should I use before I garrote and rupture

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And does KB scale up as I pot / trinket during it or do I wanna pot / trinket before I press KB

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 2:51 PM

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Kb doesn’t snapshot afaik.
So just whenever

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I pot with dm always

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Usually trinket too

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I even have it macro’d SmileDog

vivid dune Sep 18, 2024, 3:34 PM

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Yeah I got Ovinax and candle, tryna get the GB Mastery Trinket, I’ll be KSM tomorrow, hopefully I get it at hero tier

vale raft Sep 18, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Gb mastery is juice for dm kb windows

vivid dune Sep 19, 2024, 4:27 AM

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thanks for the help

vale raft Sep 19, 2024, 4:27 AM

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It’s 2 ez

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