Spartan LOG

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@dire hull

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Go get them champ

[dire hull]

I am on break in 90

Doing it then

Because it’s an in depth look

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Main focus on the two heroic fights I see (ulgrax little bit harder due to invuln phase) is upkeep of basics.
Mark was off on both and so we’re your bleeds. Envenom uptime seems fine. Minimal waste.

[chrome wharf]

There is another assa rouge named "stabby" with similar item level but has a lot more envenom damage than I did. I thought my envenom management was wrong somehow

[dire hull]

Oh dude

I thought I was looking at stabbing

[chrome wharf]

When you say basics you mean bleed keep?

[dire hull]

I didn’t even look at you I’m so sorry brb!

[chrome wharf]

It's Veralx

its good

[dire hull]

Much easier to spot gonna kinda go through basics in order (this is blood btw and think that we’re finding the source of issues)

Uptime:
Your envenom, garrote, and rupture all have very low uptime by comparison: this means you’re getting less energy from your bleeds, and less damage overall from your envenom because the chaining you’re supposed to do isn’t happening

Wasted CP:
Moreover, we waste some CP to hit DN; however, that’s a very high amount of COmbo points wasted, less finishers, less damage. (Wasted means you had max combo points and then pressed a builder again instead of using a finisher, remember 5+ we finish unless it’s DN then always on max take the L on cp loss)

And then even though you weren’t building as much energy, you still had a sizable chunk of energy waste, about 1/6 from VV.

You also just have less casts than your other rogue on tea + kingsbane and dm

It’s a lot I know

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1. "Your envenom, garrote, and rupture all have very low uptime by comparison" What are you comparing it to so I know also?

2. What page did you click on to see the raw gains and waste?

3. Is CP combo points? Is DN Darkest night? What is VV? I'm fairly new to all of this

4. How do you see I wasted combo points?

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1. What they should be. General rule is about 80+ for envenom, 95+ for rupture, same with garrote.
2. Resources > click down box
3. Combo points, darkest night and venomous Venoms that’s noted
4. See 2 for the same answer

Also you didn’t have deathstalker marks for most of the fight

Noticed that when answering that you only gained 80 energy from dn which means you procced it twice only in 7m

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Ooohhhhhh

• Does wasted energy mean I let my energy bar overflow?

• "Unless it’s DN then always on max take the L on cp loss" - Just to clarify when the final mark is consumed we always finish on max CP?

[dire hull]

Yes and yes

After the final mark

A buff appears called darkest night

Max CP envenom is sent

You get 3 more marks and a dn buff (40 energy plus an envenom buff)

[chrome wharf]

Jesus man thanks a lot, this makes so much more sense now.

Is there a way I can compensate you for what you do. I've been breaking my head trying to figure this out lol

[dire hull]

just do better and that's all I need big dog

recommend some resources, like our weak auras and stuff for tracking, btw.

so if you're having issues checking your bleed timings, no harm in checking them out, I like whispyr's weak aura and cev's plater, but honestly you can't go wrong with any of the recommended, just gotta !wa in chat

good luck and if you have any more questions, or want me to look at another log, don't hesitate to toss it back here, or ping me and a green name to get a log thread started again

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Alright man thanks a lot

[dire hull]

Any time papi

[chrome wharf]

@dire hull Your advice helped a lot, my parse went from 5-10 to 55-75%

1 thing that's still not clear to me is the concept of pooling. People are saying when everything else is on cooldown, wait for the envenom timer to be less than 1 second to use a finisher, Why? As opposed to using finishers as soon as possible. Wouldn't that be a loss on dps?

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So eventually you’ll just run out of energy altogether

That buff dropping

Means you’re doing less damage

While pacing means you get that bud the entire fight

Or as close to as possible

Also glad to help!

[chrome wharf]

So you while you're waiting for the timer to be less than 1 sec do you just auto attack?

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Or reapply your bleeds as needed

But essentially

And this is also if you’re not capping energy

If you’re capping send it

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I see, it's used to keep the wheel spinning if you're about to be energy starved

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@dire hull Hey If I wanted to request another log review do I go back and request a new thread or do I come back here?

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Nah just drop it here big dog

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@dire hull
I did a normal raid from Blooodbound horror to the Queen. My parse is around 45%-55%. I'm wonder what's keeping me from reaching the 85%-90% as my bleed and envenom up time seem to be decent. In silken I got shafted doing mechanics and I died at the Queen so that's not too much of a mystery.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HgDYZWyMG71JbNnc#fight=last&type=damage-done

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I’m gonna start with gear stuff

No enchantments and you’re higher ilvl is in your off hand

Also missing 2 tea and a kb should have been launched at the end

Also we’re not shiving right

3 casts of KB, 3 casts of shiv

Should have 6 shiv - 2 per kb cast

Also ur not running imp garrote - no reason to vanish garrote

Outside of that it’s fine

Use CDs more appropriately and adjust ur gear

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Oooh I didn't know having a higher ilvl is in your off hand makes a difference.
What do you mean enchantments? Like embellishments?

"Also missing 2 tea and a kb should have been launched at the end"
How can you see that?

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@dire hull
Hey man sorry, this will be the last time I bother you for a while. I'm just super perplexed on this log. At least from what I can see my envenom/ bleed up time and ability usage seems to be better than my guildmate Rouge (Stabby) with the exception that he got 4 more shivs of than me but still got around 80 parse and I got 40. Do those 4 shivs really make that much of a difference or am I missing something else?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Nv4Bzp8h1kgmqc6Q#fight=16&type=damage-done

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You’re never

A problem

One second

And by one second - I mean like. 90 minutes or so

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Take all the time you need

[dire hull]

So you’re missing a bit

Your bleeds on the caster mob were less which is less energy overall

You’re also not foking on ctw

Which st you can ignore

But 2t is kind of big

You definitely both missed a kb which sucks for both of you

But missing your shivs also suck

You also missed a tea

Now for the big thing

Gear diff

And you May say well “it’s only 3 ilvl”

But it’s 20ilvl mh and your counterpart has our best trinket while yours are fine, skardyns is better than both

Also he got 4 PIs that fight

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I thought gear doesn't affect parse? Only It's not associated with ilvl %?

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You also wasted 27 CP to his 19, and generated about 1200 energy less but wasted more.
Last bit is minor but not crazy

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"You’re also not foking on ctw'
What does this mean? My bad lol

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Yeah but you’re asking “why did I do so much worse” man’s got 20 ilvl on the mh

Like you played slightly worse

But slightly

[dire hull]

Fan of knives when you have a clear the witnesses proc

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@dire hull

What is st and hm? I tried looking what they mean

Okay so PIs also affect parse as well?

[dire hull]

Well PI is a buff so yeah it affects parse

St is single target

Hm? Don’t see that anywhere

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Ohh I meant mh.

All you just said makes a lot of sense.

You mentioned we both missed a kb. How do you know how many KB we're supposed to have in a fight?

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mainhand

1+number of minutes

[chrome wharf]

Thanks man your fucking goated