pom3860 - Log Review

[plush musk]

Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

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Help me Obi Wan! You're my only hope!

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too many SS's?

[wintry jackal]

nah u vanished after putting bte on cd

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Oh yeah

mis click

[wintry jackal]

you only wanna use stealth cds when bte is up

ah

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bad tendency to do that sometimes

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Also, are these Single Pistol shots?

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ye and a little minmax try to put adr behind stealth at beginning

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Or is WCL buggy?

[somber gyro]

I was hitting it when fan whatever was telling me to

I try to be careful with builders since I moved to KIR

[jovial sleet]

pretty sure these are single shot

not fan the hammer

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Ye

[jovial sleet]

and you do that a lot

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This is how it looks if it is hammer

[jovial sleet]

like very very very often

which is very very bad

like, if you dont have a fan the hammer proc

yuo arent supposed to press ps

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could we check this part about how many cp he have before he cast this gs

dude and theres a single ps

[wintry jackal]

lmao

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Ye, do not use Pistol shot without Fan The Hammer

You los a lot of Energy

[grave loom]

it feels like hes a real SL gigachad

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and PS doesnt proc anything

and

DO you use Bladeflurry

in ST?

@somber gyro

[somber gyro]

I try not to

unless it falls off

is that, correct?

SL gigachad? What's that

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You only refresh it in ST when ADR is Active or if there is a second target

[somber gyro]

even if it falls off, don't refresh?

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But shouldnt fall off

because AR is perma up

Not in pure ST without AR no

It looks like you use it on cooldown

[somber gyro]

Fair

I’m taking notes

This is awesome

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Also

Do you use KIR on CD?

Or only when 4+ buffs?

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When the WA tells me

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Which WA

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On the disc

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We dont have one afaik

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Ah

Snowy

Dpspump

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I dont know these

I mean i dont use a WA for that

because its fairly easy, you see 4+ buffs active press KIR

[somber gyro]

The WA does that

I’ll link it sec

https://wago.io/KF3Rkj8cl

So feedback is:
Energy is being wasted cause I’m hitting pistol when I shouldn’t be

And take GS off the macro and start manually hitting it

Blade flurry not in single target.. but I was using BF a lot during the DH boss fight, cause she spawns 2 adds to help her

That’s alright, right?

@jovial sleet how long does fan the hammer stay up? As in if I don’t hit it right away, that’s fine, right?

And if SS doesn’t proc FTH, I keep just hitting SS till it does?

[jovial sleet]

oh ye

stays for long enough dw

[jovial sleet]

kinda ye

we have other builders aswell

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So if I’m at 7 cp and I proc FTH, I can use a finisher

[jovial sleet]

adr/er/bf in aoe

etc

[jovial sleet]

ye

you should

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And then go back to pistol and then Finisher again?

[jovial sleet]

yes but not exactly as simple as that

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But two SS “should” proc FTH, right?

[jovial sleet]

kir has specific rules for when to use ps

[jovial sleet]

I mean no its not garanteed at all

[somber gyro]

But PS is a higher priority than SS

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Its not guaranteed

i pressed 12 times SS

[jovial sleet]

with a proc and these specific conditions met

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without proccing it

you have to track it

[somber gyro]

No fucking way

That’s rough

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thats unlucky

But you need to track that

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Right

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https://wago.io/pUjlmmxNT if you want the easy way

Rip out the Pistol shot weakaura

if its green

[jovial sleet]

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you should use PS

if not, its not optimal

[jovial sleet]

why share this

[somber gyro]

lol

[jovial sleet]

let people learn to play the game by themselves a bit at least

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But I’m not like.. brain dead, just fix these up and play more and it should be getting better?

[jovial sleet]

ye

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He already has a Wa for KIR zac

[jovial sleet]

idc

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Idk, not everyone

[somber gyro]

There’s so much going on 😂😂😂

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has the capacity to concentrate on all these things zac

[jovial sleet]

ok but are you just going to send a wa for every one of these things

everytime someone ask for help

whats the point then

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Ye because people struggle with this a lot

and i dont want them to giv eup

because they cant play it properly

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Noticed on your WA zac

Nothing lights up

You’re forcing us to learn

[jovial sleet]

yes

is that so bad

lol

[somber gyro]

Nope

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Thing is, not everyone enjoys that

[somber gyro]

Like driving a car manually vs automatic

I prefer manual but it took time

[jovial sleet]

but the point of wow

is litteraly

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Its like playing game on easy vs normal vs hard

[jovial sleet]

do rotation

and do mechanics

you are taking away half the game

by using these type of was

[somber gyro]

So to become a true rogue master

I should use your WA

[jovial sleet]

then poeple go and just use hekillih and then what are you even playing the game for you know

idk

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And bite the bullet for a bit

[jovial sleet]

makes me sad is all

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Take lower numbers till I become a real rogue

[jovial sleet]

I mean if you are serious about playing outlaw ye

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I mean the Pistol shot is green

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you know one of the big advantage of that is btw

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When you are in AOE and BF is up

or ER is up

[jovial sleet]

whenever a new version of outlaw comes up

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its not like it checks if you have better Builders

[jovial sleet]

I can instantly play it

in like 5 min

becuase I know how the spec works because I actually learned why we pressed buttons and when

if you do that you can just fluidly switch between builds

without issue

very op

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Its also a difference

[jovial sleet]

everytime there is a new outlaw version you dont need to wiat for was to be updated

just press buttons and its gg

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To knowing how the spec works

and doing it

not everyone can translate that

100%

[jovial sleet]

tiramil we arent friend anymore

sorry

its over

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Hahaha

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also I wanted to make a command to explain the ps rules but I forgot

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Zac you play every day

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I feel like this is a bigger discussion

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several hours

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But thank you guys for the feedback

I’ll keep going

[jovial sleet]

aint even true bozo

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ofc you have no problems, but people who play this as an alt or only 2 hours every 3 days

need that

[somber gyro]

Judging from the feedback I don’t think I’m a lost cause

Yet…

[jovial sleet]

easy, dont play outlaw as an alt

outlaw is a way of life

a commitment

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Thats gatekeeping

[jovial sleet]

yep

mad

?

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Rogue is already the least play Class

You want it to be less played

[jovial sleet]

well i dont really care ngl

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Well look a t survival and Ele shaman

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I want people learning to play outlaw to actually learn

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how good classes or specs are that arent played

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and not just go and download hekillih

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very much

[jovial sleet]

and call it a day

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Ye

But tis different to have hekili

or 1 weakaura that takes away 1 thing

[jovial sleet]

you have 15 was that takes away one thing each

not so different to me

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I only use the PS thing

Even zeross uses the KIR WA

or did use it

[jovial sleet]

zeross is a noob

[grave loom]