#arigoldz - Log Review

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woeful mauveBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

fierce sphinx
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Hi everyone, I am sharing our best tindie pull here for your kind feedback. Last i played sub was S1 and even then it was mostly outlaw till even end of razsa.

We havent killed it yet sadly but I have put there our best attempt at the end of P3.

I based my timings off of lorrg so its an average of them. I fly first wave so tried to adapt to that.

intenral idea I have on this boss is to CDR until roots come up then i sectec it with. idk if anyone sees any obvious mistakes anywhere. sometimes i do forget to press branch :S

fallen merlin
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Yo, if no one gets to this before tonight, I will take a look

fierce sphinx
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i appreciate it ❤️

fallen merlin
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Not re killed tindral post nerfs so don't know the new scuffed timings, but will check it out

fallen merlin
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will check out within the next hour

fierce sphinx
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much apprecaited

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i am here doing my laps around valdrakken so hit me 😄

fallen merlin
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couple things im going to do now before i shower then look at play

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you are not palying bsl - so i guess mutlispec, bsl would be better

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you are palying double on use trinket

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which is for add pad only

fierce sphinx
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what is bsl?

fallen merlin
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if this is your first kill - its kinda bad, as you have to paly pretty perfect to get value out of double on use on tindrall

fallen merlin
fierce sphinx
fallen merlin
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your groups vine dmg

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is large

fierce sphinx
fallen merlin
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dont blackpower vines it is a waste

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youre warrior and dh are inting on treants

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they should be solo carrying treant dmg

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and you should not have to black poweder

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its first kill you have good group dmg

fierce sphinx
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ye i think asking everyone to go ST didnt work past the first 2 pulls :S

fallen merlin
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you should be full send on poss

fierce sphinx
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should i still tornado on vines but evis on it?

fallen merlin
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youre boss dmg is bad

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sub is the best st on tindral not even close

fallen merlin
fierce sphinx
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i wonder if its becuase i keep CDs for any number of seconds until next roots are out?

fallen merlin
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or ashses and pips

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but pips is rng as fuck

fierce sphinx
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understood

fallen merlin
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as i dont know new timings now

fierce sphinx
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sure udnerstood

fallen merlin
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but basically

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sub should have cds

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for every shield

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or did

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then you would send 2 naked flags

fierce sphinx
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yes we still do

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still 2min and 4min

fallen merlin
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then ye

fierce sphinx
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outside of that maybe (u can see later as u said) i shouldnt hold CDs at all for roots and continue sending on CD (talking only SD/sectec)

fallen merlin
fierce sphinx
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ye i was a DH main myself in another guild for p1/p2 prog and i was only topped by the deva getting x2 PIs but that's a side issue wwith out players i leave it to them 🙂

fallen merlin
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right fukc it i will do review now if you says you still have cds for sheilds

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cos it should still be the same is then

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use ashes with sectec - dont macro with sb like you have there

fierce sphinx
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this is my internal plan

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fallen merlin
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but i palyed sub a lot

fierce sphinx
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im hopign to get there 🙂 last i played sub was rasza 😄

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or rogue

fallen merlin
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that sod is bad

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you are flagging there for stacks

fierce sphinx
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ah ok, yes i pressed for stacks and sod for energy only

fallen merlin
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so when this happens ( the treas) you have stacks

fierce sphinx
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might be over kill

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yes

fallen merlin
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but you have a dance sectec with no sod

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you are doing no dmg whislt getting those stacks

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dont sod there

fierce sphinx
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gotcha

fallen merlin
fierce sphinx
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i misunderstood and thought its worth to get the energy while flag stacking vs on dance/sectec

fallen merlin
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this whole thing should be evis evis evis for kill

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this sectec is late- clones are not getting buffed by dance as it falls off

fierce sphinx
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ah is that why sectec should be 2nd finisher?

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i thought it was only a dance macabre thing

fallen merlin
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2nd or 3rd

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2nd is generally better

fierce sphinx
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ah that makes a lot more sense

fallen merlin
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but you have downtime in dance in taht dance for whatever reason

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which is another thing

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dance has 8 possible gcds

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fill them all with dmg spells

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you only do 7

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well thats 1/8th of your dance window not used

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ok

fierce sphinx
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hmm alright i will keep that in mind to see why i would wait

fallen merlin
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first big fundemental mistkae

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you see it?

fierce sphinx
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i can tell u i yolo too hard on the first shield XD

fallen merlin
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2 actually

fierce sphinx
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1 another late sectec i see

fallen merlin
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nah

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fundemental mistakes

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so

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first issue is that flag

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why is it in dance?

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i know why it is

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but do you?

fierce sphinx
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no, at this point i panic becasuse i want to full send but flag has ~5s CD

fallen merlin
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ye

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ok so

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IF

fierce sphinx
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and idk if i should wait or not

fallen merlin
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flag is not up

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dont panic

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jsut wait

fierce sphinx
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ah ok

fallen merlin
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BUT

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you can avoid this by palying your feather better

fierce sphinx
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ye 100% of the time it never is as i see. always ~5s

fallen merlin
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if you go to feather with full cps

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do feather asap

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and spam flag asap

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you will have it up

fierce sphinx
fallen merlin
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maybe 1 sec of downtime

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but if you late on first feather

fierce sphinx
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yes you're correct

fallen merlin
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you are late on flag

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so this flag will be late

fierce sphinx
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was rewatching a POV and noticed this too

fallen merlin
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but if you are late

fierce sphinx
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understood

fallen merlin
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jsut hold

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then your 2nd issue is

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that first dance

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is only 7 gcds

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should be 8

fierce sphinx
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would this flag hold be the same as the intial opener? i.e. dance -> rupture -> SB -> rest

fallen merlin
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ye this hold would be

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jsut kinda

fierce sphinx
fallen merlin
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spamming backstab

fierce sphinx
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so as soon as I see 0.X CD i stop

fallen merlin
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or snd

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or rupture if that has fallen

fierce sphinx
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got it

fallen merlin
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then there is a late sectec in the 2nd dance

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but its w/e

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this is good

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the naked dance with the 2nd naked flag

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you should do this, this isnt a trick

fierce sphinx
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ah ok gotcha

fallen merlin
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horrific

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this is a warcrime

fierce sphinx
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should I finish the ongoing SD then flag outside and go back in?

fallen merlin
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nah ok

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so

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THIS

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should never happen

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this should be a "lets fucking chill and wait angle

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so what you have done there

fierce sphinx
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ah ok i undesrtand

fallen merlin
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is not take any cd off of flag

fierce sphinx
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just saw the time its 2nd shield

fallen merlin
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you also send falg in side cds

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but late

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hang on

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hang on

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i might have jumped the gun

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let me check my kill

fierce sphinx
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oki

fallen merlin
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is this the shield wher we are pulling flag

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ok

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its sorta fine

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ish

fierce sphinx
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what does 'pulling' flag mean?

fallen merlin
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this is my 2nd shield casts

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cos flag is not up

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and will not be up for that shield

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unless we "pull" the cd to us

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with vanish

fierce sphinx
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ah ok

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makes sense

fallen merlin
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but the difference is with yours and mind i am sb'ing before the vanish

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i actually dont think on tindral this will matter

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becasue you hold your next set of cds for a while till after you done your last feather anyways

fierce sphinx
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yes

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mine is i know cuz there are some "all CDs" macro here

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i do have separate flag button but i also ahve a "send all" one

fallen merlin
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but ye

fierce sphinx
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perhaps shouldnt have this slowly

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fallen merlin
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this scenario, this timing, where flag is up in 30 secs then you use with vanish

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is the ONYL time you can flag in danc e

fierce sphinx
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got it

fallen merlin
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becasue it then does this

fierce sphinx
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i have separate SoD and Flag buttons so this is i guess the opener buttton

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ye lol D:

fallen merlin
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and you dont have sod covering the entire of your burst window

fierce sphinx
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that's 100% the macro

fallen merlin
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yeye ik

fierce sphinx
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ok taking SoD out of it

fallen merlin
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would take flag out too

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and trinekt

fierce sphinx
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ye i guess so we always press it first anyways

fallen merlin
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pot and blades is fine

fierce sphinx
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where did we say trinket is poped ?

fallen merlin
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sectec

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but dont macro it to sec tec

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you will greif your self

fierce sphinx
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understood. i gotta practice the muscle memory a bit but got the binds

fallen merlin
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but ye

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its gerneally fine

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jsut stop using macros that int you

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and start palying for boss dmg

fierce sphinx
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fantastic thank oyu very much!

fallen merlin
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np