ariehon - Log Review

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[weary tartan]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V379MY6RAbXwHj1K#fight=last&type=summary

Hi, I think i make alot of mistakes, but escpecially my ST Dmg is horrible.... I'm farming hero track items rn to upgrade them into setpieces and then ench everything, but my sim basically tells me that i should be at 94k dps without any buffs

and i barely get above 70 with partybuffs and so on :-x

[solid jolt]

it looks like you are using finishers at 5cp a lot

You should only use finishers at 5cp if you are in subterfuge/shadow dance, otherwise 6+ cp

be careful not to sit on cooldowns, in this ataldazar you didnt use shadow dance on the first pull

[weary tartan]

Hm okay

kk

regardless of the remaining hp?

like 10-20% on an elite mob

[solid jolt]

if they will live for 6 seconds

[weary tartan]

kk

[solid jolt]

vanish ran out, you used mirror trinket but no dance

[weary tartan]

ahh

🤦‍♂️

[solid jolt]

you're letting roll the bones expire a lot

[weary tartan]

also i tried to fight a dummy in valdrakken (which resets all teh time) but i feel like if i look at "overalldmg" then im below what i should be at (like 20k dps below) and far too few bte

[solid jolt]

You should always always have a roll the bones buff active

[weary tartan]

do you roll over buffs?

[solid jolt]

especially after you get tier

[weary tartan]

i read that u roll over 1 buff with 4p and over 2 with loaded dice up

[solid jolt]

yea

there is a concept of rerolling for different buffs

but rerolling is not a huge deal

[weary tartan]

but its correct to use pistolshot with proccs

[solid jolt]

the main thing is not letting it expire

[weary tartan]

in dance/subterfuge

kk

like in subterfuge/dance u use the best cp generator to get 5+cp and then bte

[solid jolt]

this build only uses pistol shot in stealth if broadside is active from roll the bones and you are at low cp

[weary tartan]

oh ok

[solid jolt]

otherwise hit ambush

[weary tartan]

but its correct that u can get unlucky with only 1cp + 2 cps from first ambush and u have to hit another ambush

right?

[solid jolt]

yes

that is fine, this build loves pressing ambush

[weary tartan]

ok

hmm

theres no way to properly train on a dummy except with "overall dmg" right?

since vanish resets it

[solid jolt]

ye

[weary tartan]

but my dispatch dmg is so close to bte

[solid jolt]

bte should be like 4% ahead

[weary tartan]

like on 3min patchwork

it says to me

like a ton more on bte

sadly i have to run it again to show u a picture

and sorry for stealing your time :x

[solid jolt]

in raidbots, the crackshot dispatch is combined with bte

[weary tartan]

ahhhhh

so the dispatch is included in the bte on raidbots?

°_°

[solid jolt]

ye

[weary tartan]

ahhhhhhhhhh

so 1 bte with crackshot

=> 2 bte in raidbots basically?

[weary tartan]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

god

i was always checking my recoutn and raidbots

and losing my mind cuz it always was like

a ton of dispatch more

and alot less bte

thanks for the enlightnement

[solid jolt]

[weary tartan]

buzt there are guides onthe buffs right?

ill try to find a list on buffs which to keepü

then besides that its not dropping roll the bones

[solid jolt]

in #outlaw-faq

[weary tartan]

and using both dance/vanish off cd

[solid jolt]

without tier

[weary tartan]

do you use ghostly just in dispatch/bte macros

[solid jolt]

I don't macro it

[weary tartan]

ah okay

[solid jolt]

but it is okay to macro to ss/ambush

[weary tartan]

so roll the bones and 6cp outside of stealthmodes

[solid jolt]

but you should still be able to press it when needed

[weary tartan]

and bte outside only when u are at 40+secs on vanish and 12 sd

[solid jolt]

ye

sometimes you are pressing sinister strike but the pistol shot proc is active

[weary tartan]

the count on the amount of usages

[solid jolt]

this build always uses pistol shot procs over sinister strike

[weary tartan]

is the dispatch added to dispatch in recount?

if u get what i mean

[solid jolt]

yeah probably

i dont use recount, everyone uses Details

but yeah

[weary tartan]

so ambush > pistol (unless proc+broad) > ss

?

ah ye im on details mb

[solid jolt]

pistol shot (stealth + broadside + proc) > ambush > pistol shot (proc) > ss

[weary tartan]

kk

thanks alot

[solid jolt]

[weary tartan]

i think ill try to practice on dummy again

and then come back to annoy u guys some more :-x

do you almost hit your sim dps?

[solid jolt]

yea

it's an average of like 20,000 pulls

so u can hit it or be higher with some luck

[weary tartan]

ye but its like -/+ 10% prolly right?

[solid jolt]

without tier you have a lot of variance

with tier it's like +/- 4% usually, +/- 8% sometimes

[weary tartan]

ah one last question

dagger in offhands

fine or not 😄

[solid jolt]

they are bis

[weary tartan]

only the timethingy

[solid jolt]

but very close to a regular weapon

[weary tartan]

or all

[solid jolt]

all of them are slightly better

but ilvl/stats can still matter ofc

[weary tartan]

ah and roll the boines always outside of stealth right? never in the dmg window

[solid jolt]

without tier yeah

with tier you can reroll in stealth, it's fine

but there is also a rule to roll early if buffs would fully expire in stealth

[weary tartan]

like in dance and subterfuge?

[solid jolt]

ye

[weary tartan]

k

besides that theres no trick to improve ur bte unless ur lucky with proccs right?

[solid jolt]

just following the builder priority properly

and this

[weary tartan]

okj im gonna read the faq as well

[solid jolt]

just to clarify something

outside of stealth, it is normal to press ambush or pistol shot at 5cp

even though that wastes a ton of combo points

[weary tartan]

ah okay

thanks alot man