andreask1337 - Log Review | Ravenholdt | Page 1

unreal jayBOT Dec 10, 2023, 5:33 PM

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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:33 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dz7TkxAa9njPmM8f

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:33 PM

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Which of the rogues are you?

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:33 PM

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Mole

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:34 PM

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Ok, I'll take a look

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Looking at volcoross fight. First thing I see is that you accidentally put bte on cd, but then go ahead and send shadow dance anyway

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Or possibly you decide to not use bte during dance?

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There are some times where you use dispatch twice in a row. Maybe hammering the button a bit there

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:38 PM

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no it happens because i have dispatch and bte on same key so when the stealth/normal bar switch happens it sometimes bugs and still uses bte from stealth bar without the bonus so its on cd. Then muscle memory kicks in

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:38 PM

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long plover There are some times where you use dispatch twice in a row. Maybe hammering the ...

yes hammering is a problem of mine

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:39 PM

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I see, since you should sometimes use bte outside of stealth I do not recommend that setup

terse ginkgo Dec 10, 2023, 5:39 PM

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vivid oasis no it happens because i have dispatch and bte on same key so when the stealth/no...

There's a slight delay on the stealth bar switch. I have my abilities all on different bars because of this

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:40 PM

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yeah i have a special key for bte outside of stealth when vanish and dance has a long cd

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:40 PM

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If both vanish (45s) and sd (15s) are on cd you should bte outside of stealth

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I see, not getting the best possible use out of crackshot windows will cost you a lot of dps

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Can see the hammering issue quite a lot

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Most commonly dispatch and pistol shot

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Probably where you have most to gain

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Do you play with high latency or nah?

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:43 PM

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so maybe i should get me a weakaura for gcd or something to get slowdown my actions and not just hammering ?

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:43 PM

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long plover Do you play with high latency or nah?

arround 30-50 ms

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:43 PM

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We have variable gcd so it's good to keep track of

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Shouldn't be the latency then

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Some people that hammer a lot like to lower spell queue window a bit

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They say it makes it less likely to double send like this

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Maybe down to 200 from the default 400

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Or you can try to unlearn the hammering but that's probably hard

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:45 PM

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how do i lower the spell queue window ?

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:45 PM

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I like to display gcd swipe on my WAs

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Maybe try to keep track of gcd before messing with spell queue window

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It's called lag tolerance or something in advanced interface options

desert elm Dec 10, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Also, should use vanish before dance

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:47 PM

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ok sounds interesting never heard of it

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:47 PM

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An addon

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I think it will happen less if you keep track of gcd somehow

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:48 PM

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desert elm Also, should use vanish before dance

Oh really ? Was sure to first use dance then vanish. Will try it

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Vanish is on restless blades so we get cdr on it when we finish

desert elm Dec 10, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Many times if you vanish then dance, your vanish will be back up by the time your dance window is over

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:50 PM

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If you have true bearing up and are a bit lucky with ace procs

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:50 PM

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yeah this could fill my big hole after dance>vanish

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:51 PM

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So you can do an opener with 6 sec subterfuge into vanish, into dance, into another vanish

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:51 PM

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yes its definitely better. Thanks

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:52 PM

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Should still build to 6cp before sending vanish or dance but I think you are doing that correctly

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The way I'm seeing the double casts is in timeline view of casts btw

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Good if you want to analyze yourself later

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:53 PM

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long plover I like to display gcd swipe on my WAs

do u have a like for this wa or its a private one ?

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:54 PM

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I mean I show it on all skills affected by gcd

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Like the button bars

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:55 PM

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ok

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:55 PM

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long plover The way I'm seeing the double casts is in timeline view of casts btw

thanks for this also was searching for this also

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:57 PM

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You do it very often for pistol shot especially I think

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 5:58 PM

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but the 3 pistol shots in a row are a procc. I never actually use 3 pistol shots by myself

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https://www.wowhead.com/spell=381846/fan-the-hammer

Wowhead

Fan the Hammer

When Sinister Strike strikes an additional time, gain 1 additional stack of Opportunity. Max 6 stacks.Half-cost uses of Pistol Shot consume 1 additional stack of Opportunity to fire 1 additional shot. Additional shots generate 1 fewer combo point and deal 20% reduced damage.

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 5:59 PM

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It's shows up as 3 ps first in a group, then one more

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vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 6:00 PM

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yeah thats like 2 actual pistol shots which i pressed

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 6:00 PM

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Last one is without opportunity proc even

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 6:01 PM

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the second one was caused by hammering then ^^

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 6:01 PM

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Yep

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That's double dispatch

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So try either gcd tracking or lower spell queue window or both

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 6:04 PM

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yep will try it. But i think the most benefit and easiest to implement will be to use vanish before dance.

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 6:05 PM

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I think you have a lot more dps to gain from the double casts because they are very frequent and will lead to energy issues

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 6:06 PM

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ok but that will take time till i fixed this

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 6:06 PM

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Less efficient use of cps energy and gcds also lead to less cdr and thus less vanish casts

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Yup, it will be tricky to fix probably

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 6:07 PM

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thank you guys u helped me alot. Now i have atleast some hope to get closer to sim dps

long plover Dec 10, 2023, 6:08 PM

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Good luck. Can always come back with a new log later if you want

vivid oasis Dec 10, 2023, 6:08 PM

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so i just let this thread open ?

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