#bootyappraiser123 - Log Review

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vivid leafBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

pliant vine
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pls tell me why im dogshit at this spec

sand raven
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Ya gimme a sec and I will look through it

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Got sidetracked

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Hmm.....The log didnt upload right for whatever reason

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Can you try to re-upload it @pliant vine

pliant vine
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how i do that

sand raven
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close the current report in the app

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then basically just upload it again as a new report

pliant vine
sand raven
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Same thing. Did you enable Advanced Combat Logging in the WoW settings?

pliant vine
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yeah its on

sand raven
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hmm....wonder why it's splitting the log like that thn

pliant vine
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i pressed go and typed /combatlog before the key

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idk what else

sand raven
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well, I will do what I can with this

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maybe in the meantime try another key to see if that log uploads properly? lol

pliant vine
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i did also record a vod but idk how good itll do i realized i dont have the skill tracker addon thing that shows what abilities u used

sand raven
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if you have a decent UI I can prob make about as much out of the vod as the way the logs uploaded

pliant vine
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how should i send it

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its like 4gb lol

sand raven
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prob just upload it to youtube

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well cursory glance at logs, you're almost certainly messing up your crackshot windows.....some sections you did more damage with ambush than with BTE

pliant vine
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crackshot over ambush in sub ?

sand raven
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and in all sections Dispatch did more damage than BTE, which should not be the case

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Crackshot is the talent that makes BTE not have a cooldown during Stealth

pliant vine
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ohhhh mb i thought u meant the pistol shot reset thing

sand raven
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I am not even at the level of nitpicking your builder priority at this point

pliant vine
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oh god

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so like

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why is my dispatch doing more dmg than bte

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i have noticed that too

sand raven
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Because you're doing something wrong with crackshot windows

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trying to translate these logs and figure out what

pliant vine
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alright, 11 minutes on the video to upload as well

sand raven
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nice

pliant vine
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my ui is pretty clean i think so it should be good to see

sand raven
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You are somewhat frequently Casting Vanish/Dance then using ambush

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BTE should always be your first global

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After entering Stealth (Subterfuge from vanish, or Shadow Dance)

pliant vine
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yeah i started doing that bcs sometimes i press vanish and i dont enter sub and my bte goes on cooldown

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idk what causes that

sand raven
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In combat the most likely cause is trinkets

pliant vine
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mydas?

sand raven
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can be

pliant vine
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i have that on macro with bte tho

sand raven
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if you cast it at the same time as vanish/dance

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Ya that is almost certainly the problem

pliant vine
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ah kk

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ill change that then

sand raven
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I'd recommend putting it on Pistol Shot if you really want to macro it into something

pliant vine
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will do

sand raven
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Pretty much everyone will tell you just to not macro it, but PS is fairly safe if you want to macro it

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At least once you sent Blade Flurry as the last GCD in a pack for an unclear purpose, so general idea in M+ to be aware of when packs are dieing

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you dont wanna send any kind of CD in the last few seconds of a pack, in general

pliant vine
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i usually do that when i run out of cds or somethin

sand raven
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And there for whatever reason, you hit Dance while you should probably have had subterfuge from being in stealth already

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Maybe something broke you early....but hard to tell

pliant vine
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i probably fat fingered it honestly lol

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i usually do well with vanish and dance timings tho i think

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not overlapping sub windows

sand raven
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Ya I hadnt really noticed you overlapping them in combat

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Put setup going from one pull to the next is important

pliant vine
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yeah its tough with spiteful not being able to restealth

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between packs

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but yeah i see what ur saying

sand raven
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Well in that screenshot you did restealth, but you managed to waste both vanish and dance within the span of 5 in combat globals =p

pliant vine
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i think spiteful fixate breaks it no?

sand raven
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Vanish > Ambush > BTE > BTE > BF > Stealth.....Next pack > Shadow Dance immediately, into an ambush

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nope, as long as you dont get meleed, fixate doesnt break stealth

pliant vine
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ah kk

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the 360p version of the vod uploaded but its gonna take an hour for an hd version to uupload lmfao

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it looks like shit

sand raven
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I would recommend macroing Ghostly Strike into something for now as well, till you get more comfortable with the spec

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you're forgetting to use it fairly often

pliant vine
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oh i thought i was doing good with it lol

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what u recommend to macro it to

sand raven
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ghostly has a raw cooldown of 90 secs, and an effective cooldown of like 25 seconds, and occasionally you dont use it for almost 2 minutes

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I have mine on SS

sand raven
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SS isnt a great spot for it, but you will probably at least be using it on CD that way

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I should have a VoD of an AD I did if you think watching that would help you

pliant vine
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sure

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im should be doing another key soon hopefully the logs upload correctly this time

sand raven
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An AD starts at ~3:11:00

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Not a particularly good AD for me, 228k, but an AD nonetheless

pliant vine
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something ive noticed, big pulls i dont do that much dmg

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i do around like 350k

sand raven
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That is almost certainly positioning based

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I mean, your crackshot usage as well

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but Positioning is important

pliant vine
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like always being in melee range or sum?

sand raven
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So blade flurry hits thing in a circle radius ~8 yards around you

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so you wanna be basically in the middle of the mobs

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I will be able to tell on the VoD easier how your positioning is

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So like here

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you're basically at max melee, so almost certainly not hitting all targets

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Maybe in your head Blade Flurry cleaves from your target

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but it does not

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it cleaves from your character

pliant vine
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mmm ok didnt know that

sand raven
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Think of it similar to Whirlwind from warriors

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same basic concept

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except it's all of your damage all the time

pliant vine
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ok ok

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im gonna do another key now

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ill stream on twitch this time and enable vod

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so it wont be shit quality hopefulyl

sand raven
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lol hope so

pliant vine
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whats the addon that tracks ur ability usage

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so i can get that

sand raven
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details

pliant vine
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o is it in details

sand raven
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Options > Broadcaster > Action tracker

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But ya watching you actually play on twitch would prob make it easy

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I watch myself play sometimes to pick up on mistakes

pliant vine
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do u have a profile i can import

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for the action tracker

sand raven
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No, but it's very easy to set up tbh

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Set width to 400

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change it to square mode

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set square width to 40

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easy

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Oh, and change displayed abilities to 10

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Mine looked like this on stream once I turned it on. I forgot to change it to 10 from 5

pliant vine
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kk got it

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now to figure out how to stream on twitch lol

sand raven
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Ah, well, if you get OBS it makes that fairly easy

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it has a wizard to basically set it up for you

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You dont even need your stream key anymore, you just connect your twitch to your OBS and done

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I wish my VoD from this morning had stayed on twitch. So I could preach the good word of KiR build

pliant vine
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ah ok im streaming now

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idk how to turn on vods tho

sand raven
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well, I can just watch

pliant vine
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true

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gotta get in a key first

sand raven
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For our purposes anything like 20+ should be fine

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no need to go to a push key relaly

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Oh, look into the addon Premade Group Filters. It's pretty handy

pliant vine
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whats it do

sand raven
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helps you filter groups

pliant vine
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ah ok

sand raven
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so you dont have to manually look through 400 groups you dont want anyway

pliant vine
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true that is usefull

sand raven
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Do you not use party frames?

pliant vine
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r those not party frames

sand raven
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Ohh

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gotcha

pliant vine
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lol

sand raven
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It was behind the LFG window lol

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You have no audio, idk if you were intending to or not

pliant vine
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i dont play with audio, only crackshot resets lol

sand raven
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gotcha

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Eminem it is then

pliant vine
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loool

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crack a bottle?

sand raven
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One of my work rituals is to listen to Rap God at least once a shift

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nah im at work lol

pliant vine
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nah the song lmfao

sand raven
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oh idk his newer stuff

pliant vine
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idk how new it is i dont think its that new

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its my top 3 eminem songs

sand raven
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2009

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not very new

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I will give it a listen after Rap God

pliant vine
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its a great song

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deva evoker yawn

sand raven
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If the dev is any good he will prob beat you

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Flask

pliant vine
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ya i wait till we in to use it

sand raven
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fair enough

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So before the key goes in you can AR and Pot for a free Pot and free combo points (for SND), and free loaded dice

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evasion the ghosts

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lol one of them pulled saurids

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You sat on RTB for quite a long time there

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You have 4p right? Always refresh RTB before it expires. Maybe just a misplay, but I've seen you let it expire quite often

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Refresh at ~2 secs, or just before a stealth window if its under ~8 seconds

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Sometimes you are finishing at 4 CP

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And also sitting with AR off CD when it isnt active

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I gotta actually do work for a min so ....gl

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You should basically always be opening from stealth with Blade Flurry in AoE. You often ambush or some other thing that isn't Blade Flurry

pliant vine
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that was a terrible key tbh

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lmfao

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my macro didnt work in the beginnign for pistol shot

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i couldnt se it

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use

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idk if u saw that

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lmfao

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i didnt write cast pistol shot

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whoops

sand raven
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Your dps potion

pliant vine
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ah ok

pliant vine
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i do have 4p tho

sand raven
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You lose a lot more by letting it expire and not benefitting from 4piece

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But if playing properly you should basically always have loaded dice ready anyway

pliant vine
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i think i forgot to start logging until after rezan

sand raven
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That is probably why the log keeps uploading incorrectly lol

pliant vine
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nah the last one i started it before the ky

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key

sand raven
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weird

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maybe you need to delete your combat log

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maybe it's corrupted for some reason

pliant vine
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delete the entire log folder?

sand raven
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no

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end the report in the app

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it will give you an option to delete the file

pliant vine
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EBUSY: resource busy or locked, unlink 'D:\Battle.net\World of Warcraft_retail_\Logs\WoWCombatLog-120423_010031.txt'

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thats what i got

sand raven
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prob have to close the game to delete it then

pliant vine
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yep deleted

sand raven
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I think if you deal with all the stuff I mention, you will end up with a lot higher overlal tho

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you have very similar gear to mine

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can you open character sheet?

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Ya pretty similar gear to mine. You have kind of a lot of haste though

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ideally you probably change some of your haste to crit once you have the pieces to do so

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But sim can tell you what to do there

pliant vine
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yeah im not really sure what to replace tbh not many things are giving me haste

sand raven
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Helm, both weapons, 1 ring, boots

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Cape I think?

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More than half your gear has haste

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lol

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It is what it is, just slots you can upgrade once you have the pieces to do so

pliant vine
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yeah but also has vers, idk what else to get that doesnt give haste that has vers or crit

sand raven
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The Fall Axe is BiS for most people now

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BoE helm is crit vers

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or craft one on tuesday

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Craft a ring or get the one from DHT

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or the ring from raid

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Twisted bark

pliant vine
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haste is just bad overall?

sand raven
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that one sims well for me

pliant vine
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even to have a little bit

sand raven
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You want a certain amount of haste (determined by the sim) and then it falls off a cliff

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Like after a certain point haste is borderline worthless for M+

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You're still holding vanish /AR for long periods when you dont need to

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IE AR is coming off CD , AR isn't active, and you just sit on it

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Not refreshing RTB before you go into stealth when it will run out during stealth window

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On Witherbark no reason to hold Vanish at all, just send it. If he is getting low on energy it's probably worth holding Dance for the burn phase though

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Refreshing RTB is basically always your highest priority action, unless you're in a stealth window. You still often let RTB fully expire, and sometimes just not be active at all for extended periods

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Your reroll WA is out of date....not following the current rules

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Ok NVM, it actually just tells you that RTB is off cooldown, not when to roll

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And maybe I am missing it, but I dont see what in your UI tells you loaded dice is active?

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Also you 100% can and should cast AR + RTB in stealth pre pull if you dont have RTB/AR up before the pull

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saves you a global or 2 in combat

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You're also losing BTE crit buff uptime by rarely casting BTE outside of stealth

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A more niche interaction, that maybe is too much for you at the moment, given all the RTB issues, but in stealth when you have both Broadsides and Opportunity procs, you should pistol shot over ambush

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1 GCD for 6 CP for very little energy

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Ok I see your loaded Dice WA

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I think I miss it in combat because you often wait until you cast AR to cast RTB, so the Loaded Dice buff is getting consumed almost instantly every time

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You're somewhat often using more builders than you need to. IE 3 ambushes before a BTE/dispatch. That might be just an issue with the action tracker and HO procs though. Hard to tell

pliant vine
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and ive noticed my biggest problem is letting my buffs expire

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i tried to do better in that dung but idk if i did

sand raven
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yes, that is easily the biggest issue.

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You seem to only reroll after casting AR

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so your buffs expire a lot

pliant vine
sand raven
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and you waste Loaded Dice rerolling sometimes when you dont need to

pliant vine
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yeah i knew that i just didnt know what to do tbh

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but now i know 🙂

pliant vine
sand raven
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Just trying to point things out as I see them. I make some of these mistakes myself

pliant vine
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so thats why ive been sitting on it

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do i just send it off cds?

sand raven
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It can, but sometimes your AR isnt active, and comes off CD, and you sit on it

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Maybe your WA just isn't working for you

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Not like, functionally broken, but it just isnt working in a way that is triggering you to cast it

pliant vine
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yeah true

sand raven
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So like, with Afenar (which is I think what you're using, it's what I use), When AR is active it will have a timer on it

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when it is off CD but not active it will just be an icon like it is right now

pliant vine
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ah i see whats going on

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thjeres like a small cooldown line then shows up when i think its active and its off cd

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i think its still active

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but its not

sand raven
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ya I had the same problem at first

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Gotta adjust to how your WA pack works

pliant vine
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yeah fs

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so like how much dmg do u think im missing in that dungeon

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after seeing that

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ik thats hard to answer

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but like what would u usually be pulling

sand raven
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With the way that dungeon was pulled, and the things I saw to correct.....I think you could probably have hit 330-350k in that key with perfect play

pliant vine
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damn im missing that much

sand raven
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Well, I've been trying to get your log working properly because that's the best way to actually compare numbers

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details isnt accurate

pliant vine
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o shit

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did i log that

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i dont remember

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lmfao

sand raven
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lol idk

pliant vine
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so

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i did not

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fuck

sand raven
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The last EB I did was a 23 and I think details said 330 or something around there

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but we pulled differently

pliant vine
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dayum

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aight well i think im getting off now, ill take a screenshot of these tips and log another key tomorrow if ur around

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ty btw

sand raven
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Ya like besides the RTB thing this is mostly small things to fix

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your crackshot windows are mostly good.

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too many ambushes sometimes

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and sitting on CDs sometimes

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but inside them you mostly do things right

pliant vine
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mmm ok ok ill fix the rtb issues tm hopefully lol

sand raven
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You might benefit from a diff WA for it

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there are some that are up to date that tell you when to roll

pliant vine
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do u have 1 ?

sand raven
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no I use base afenar and manually reroll

pliant vine
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i tried to look for one the other week i couldnt find an updated one

sand raven
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ask in the outlaw chat, there's 1 that like 90% of the community uses that works well

pliant vine
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mm ok ok

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ty for the help

sand raven
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np, gl, have a good night

pliant vine
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u2

pliant vine
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23 atal i just did with an aug evoker, we did wipe twice on last boss and fail key but i dont think i did bad on this one