#lao_kung - Log Review

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dusk compassBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

patent cloud
bright forum
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i am not sure if wcl just does not show it

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what gear piece is your toxic patch on?

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for consumables, corrupting potion is stronger than tepid vers

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so if you want some free dps, its a easy upgrade

patent cloud
bright forum
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ah perfect

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for the opener, you can use a storm here

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it would guarantee find weakness

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it is also not very good to use dance off gcd like this, even tho i assume you didn't lose a cast in dance.
It can happen

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your 2nd dance is slightly delayed, it shouldn't be this late

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tea is also used inefficiently

patent cloud
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Yeah tea only for mastery when at 3 charges... I somehow forget that

bright forum
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you only use it for the buff in the first dance, after that usually just for energy

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if you have very short killtimes

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you might need to think about using it more agressive

patent cloud
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Yeah but usually its only in the first dance... I get it

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but what i dont seem to understand is the dont use dance off gcd

bright forum
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you kind of repeated this every dance so far in the log

patent cloud
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because english is not my main language not because u are explaining badly ahah

bright forum
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dance lasts 8 seconds

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or well 6 without the 2 sec node

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so you can fit in 6 globals into it

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each ability causes a 1 sec gcd so you have a bit of wiggle room to delay spells

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if you use the first ability the same time you use dance, you have close to 1 second to use your last ability

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assuming you cast every ability back to back without delay

patent cloud
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so to ensure all 6 spells while sd we dont cast both spell and sd at the same time because later in the sd we will lack that precious second

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i get it now

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so that and thristle tea usage

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and better potion

bright forum
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so assume you are not always hitting it immidiatly

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you suddenly remove the blue bar from on time

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but thats not bad, you see you would stil be able to hit it

patent cloud
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i see

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and i somehow manage not to press second sd on time which is important

bright forum
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if you use dance before the gcd is over, you introduce wait times before you can use the first spell

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so by using it this way you lose like 1/2 of the gcd

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i did move the green line below the blue/red one

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to show how much of the entire window you would lose

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so the green line would basically lose you more than what you have left to use an ability

patent cloud
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I understand it

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U explained it so well man

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cant believe

bright forum
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if you are a button spammer

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it is usually not a big deal

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but raid mchanics happen, and your attention might be off for a few moment

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spell queue window is to your advantage as a player

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as it basically allows you to do back to back casts

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but allowing you to "queue" up the spell in advanced for the specific time its set to (default is 0.4 seconds)

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so, its not a big problem or issue, just somehting to be aware of that can impact your output

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looking at the fight

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you had a downtimes

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rashok should be close to 0 downtime

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also you used feint multiple times

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heroic shoul not rly make feint a reasonable press

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there is a slight delay in dance here

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also, i assume what i mentioned just happened here

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you used your first gcd late and lost a cast

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another delay

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this isn't rly a big issue, but the last gcd in dance is always evi

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it is slightly better to just finish last gcd

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to be able to use gloomblade

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i also see you use bomb dispenser manual

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can just macro it to w/e

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macro it to gloomblade

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would be one example

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(and never think about it again)

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delayd symbols here

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think you would delay symbols here

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but this is also a good example why delaying cooldowns can be bad

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bcause if you look just the message above

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you lost 4 seconds there

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if you used it earlier

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you would be able to use symbols earlir

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having more symbols casts, and you wouldn't run into the question "do i need to delay"

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you just finish after strike

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you don't go from 6 -> 7 cp with a gb

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its not a big mistake, just a small detail

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a lot more downtime

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double gb in dance

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also a optimization you don't do

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also one thing that isn't in your hand

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killtime

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you are at ~99k dps in your log

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if you reduce the kill time to around the value you see in top logs

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you would suddenly gt 8 k dps for free

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it shouldn't be this relevant tho

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because you don't use beacon

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so killtime is less relevant

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but as you see, lower kill times will directly impact the result

patent cloud
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Just one quick question: we delay symbols if sd is on 10 seconds or less on cd?

bright forum
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yes, thats a good rule of thumbs

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so to go quickly over everything:

  • stay on the boss, you can position in a way to allow very high uptime --- if not, talk to your tanks they likely make the raid harder for your raid team by not positioning the boss correct (can also use cloak/step to repossion)
  • Try to use Tea more efficiently, you will else run into energy problems limiting your output. This is even more relevant on longer fights
  • try using your cooldowns, on cooldown. Even small delays can add up over the fight and can lead to lower casts of shadow dance
  • make yoruself comfortable, can macro bomb dispenser to a key you regularely press. Maybe consider using a macro for dance + gloomblade to have more time to use abilities in dance.
  • if you have additional headroom, try optimizing rupture too. It sounds a lot harder than it actually is.
  • some small other things like finishing last gcd in dance, not using gb gto go from 6->7 cb before secret etc.
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esp. the first one is important. Having downtime is sometimes not avoidable, but in general not trying to keep them low is somthing that can easy lead to worse results

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this does not mean you need to be greedy and die to mechanics as a consequence, just to be clear

patent cloud
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You are the best

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Not using gb to go from 6 to 7 cp before sectec - i thought 6 is enough?

bright forum
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it is

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thats what i am saying

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if you gb-evi-strike

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you can always finish with secret

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don't need to use gb before that a 2nd time

patent cloud
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Oh right

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Thanks a lot man

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This was very helpful

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U are the best

bright forum
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no problem, as you might noticed. What i mentioned was mostly small optimizations

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so most of the things are optimizations or pointers in directions you can imporve on

patent cloud
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Yeah it was very detailed and awesome overall 💚

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Thanks once more