#vezman - Log Review
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hollow linden
I was switching between the two specs. Still learning been a while since I played rogue just want some pointers if possible... I sim 121k .. doing only 70-80
final helm
so i see you're not really using vanish, you should vanish at high cp > dispatch basically on cooldown for count the odds procs
in your opener you can vanish ambush though. so your opener should be:
(roll the bones + adrenaline rush + slice and dice prepull) > stealth > ambush > vanish > ambush > between the eyes > dreadblades > shadow dance > ambush + dispatch spam > keep it rolling after shadow dance is over
hollow linden
Haha I can guess who u are 👀👀
final helm
hollow linden
Haven't touched my rogue in ages 😔 so I suck now lol how's everyone over there
final helm
lol we're all the same old
hollow linden
Haha yep I'm washed up
final helm
Outlaw's pretty different now
hollow linden
Thanks for the help tho Connor 😄 better u help than a stranger
I see that
Subs a pain in the ass too tho lol
final helm
yep yep, lol i know nothing about sub, pretty much one trick outlaw
So I think you're only using ambush after you go into stealth/shadow dance atm
but Outlaw has a proc to use a free ambush now
your pistol shots can proc Audacity, which lets you ambush outside of stealth, and this build should use audacity to maintain the find weakness debuff
So you kinda need a weakaura to track both audacity and find weakness
hollow linden
Oh yeah that's definitely what I'm missing I didn't realize that
I only wanna play outlaw never enjoyed sub . I didn't realize I can ambush out of stealth gonna have to change my bars up
final helm
yeah it took a minute to get used to a new ambush keybind
hollow linden
I know I'm lacking on my trinkets I'm not full bis yet so that doesn't help either I just couldn't figure out why I was doing 70k when simming 121
Gonna have to sit on a dummy today
final helm
ambush is probably the biggest deal. other than that is mostly keeping track of cooldowns and keeping up with the high APM
This priority list from the faq mostly covers everything to do well
hollow linden
Thanks I appreciate all the info tell everyone I say hello over there.
Guessing you still just aotc guild right
final helm
Yeah we are
hollow linden
Nice glad you guys still raid i played dragon most of this expansion but I wanted to go back to rogue finally
final helm
lol nice, something keeps me playing rogue every time
hollow linden
Tried what u said in a pug yesterday definitely helped just need to get used to hitting ambush out of stealth it's hard to know when it pops up I'll have to get another wa. Thanks again Connor
I have main raid tonight mag again I'm going to post logs here again if that's ok after.
final helm
Yeah sure ill look again
hollow linden
When u get a chance today please let me know lol it's bothering me
hollow linden
Definitely need to improve mag is a dps race I may be sat 😭
final helm
You should KIR at the end of shadow dance
you use dance to stack up count the odds buffs so you can kir them afterwards
So if kir and dance cooldowns are close you should link them
no rolling during dance or dreadblades
i feel like dreadblades casts are low, the average cooldown is like 25 seconds
but it is prog so cant be perfect
hollow linden
Yeah but I'm not even breaking100 k
U think it's partially my gear too !
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Im going to try and farm shit this weekend.. I don't wanna be cut lol
Also wow analyzer told me I'm using SS too much
final helm
can you paste your /simc in here?
i dont think your gear is that bad except being lowest ilvl in the raid
hollow linden
I'm not home lemme see if I can bring up armory from raidbots
hollow linden
Ah makes sense then
Yeah I need to get bomb or beacon just doesn't wanna dropv
Can't simc I'll send later I switched to alliance after raid last night it's probably bugged
Trying for tusk too this weekend farm underrot
But I didn't realize I was kir before dance I followed what u said to do on openers
final helm
oh makes sense, yeah i was wanting to see what you sim like without windfury and stuff
hollow linden
Yesterday I simmed 122k
final helm
i dont feel like your rotation is horrid
hollow linden
So it's definitely me being crappy.. but when I'm playing I feel like everything is smooth besides a few messes up that I know I'm doing
final helm
but sometimes hard to tell without a vod if you are missing cds
hollow linden
Yeah I get that
Like seeing what I'm missing im thinking now like did I do that haha
I appreciate the help i want CE so I definitely don't wanna be cut.
final helm
you sim 122k without windfury?
hollow linden
Yeah unless the top gear or sim it self puts that on
final helm
sometimes you use pistol shot without its proc
Yeah top gear has like every buff on by default
okay I do think you're using sinister strike a lot
if you have a pistol shot proc, you should use pistol shot over sinister strike, unless you have over 4cp
sometimes you are sitting on 6 stacks of the pistol shot proc but keep hitting SS
make sure your weakauras show this: your pistol shot proc can have 0, 3 or 6 stacks
hollow linden
How many cps should I be using dispatch too always 6?
final helm
just 6 or 7
hollow linden
Maybe everything is going so quick I'm not realizing it lol
I need to sit on a dummy later
final helm
yeah that's outlaw for you haha
hollow linden
Definitely picked up on me hitting SS instead of the shot tho
It being prog too messed with me a little I'm comfortable with the fight now tho I just need to put rotation into play like u said
When I get home I'll send over the simc
final helm
cool cool
hollow linden
Also doesn't help the other rogues sub doing alot of DMG bis gear
He messes up mechanics tho I got him on that lol
final helm
honestly my bad for not seeing the pistol shot thing at first
usually they are consumed quickly like this
yours
final helm
yeah pistol shot procs are a super good global
hollow linden
I'll have to be ontop of it more hopefully sitting on a dummy helps too
hollow linden
You don't think it's worth trying sub right lol or sin... I love outlaw
hollow linden
They don't seem to care aslong as I can get my dps up
I thought outlaw competes with sub anyway
Also every time I got GM I should hit bf right.
final helm
yea in raid they are similar
final helm
Also every time I got GM I should hit bf right.
for this build only if you roll GM from RTB
You dont hit BF if you get the 10s or 5s GM from count the odds (unless you kir it)
hollow linden
Oh alright makes sense
final helm
but it's also not a huge deal and it looked like you were mostly doing that
hollow linden
Yeah I think I just need to improve the little things like you said. I mean my DPS went up a little hitting ambush with the proc but nothing crazy
hollow linden
got rid of my haste helm dps went up a little >_>
final helm
huh yeah you do sim for like 120k
the sim is just zooming
120 dispatches in 5 minutes while you have about half of that
but the pistol shots should help that cause they give much more cp than ss
hollow linden
yeah im gettin a little better with it
i got a new helm today too vers mas also tryin for trinkets
just have to sustain it i can do the opener pefect now il hit 100k + on that but falls off
is bomb that big of a trinket that i should try to get it on normal?
final helm
looks like a small upgrade https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hcMaJaYjjz47otVv5ESoNi
hollow linden
not bad and it gets rid of the haste trinket
gonna have to try for it
then i guess farm underrot for those weps right
final helm
yea
hollow linden
u by chance got a WA just for the roll buffs>
final helm
Yeah you can. That haste trinket is better than I thought, it seems
hollow linden
i thought we hate haste tho lol
also how do i use this trinket now that i atleast got the normal bomb? is it just pre pull
final helm
i thought we hate haste tho lol
yeah but it's not negative dmg
that trinket must have good uptime ig
final helm
also how do i use this trinket now that i atleast got the normal bomb? is it jus...
just on cooldown after between the eyes is on the target for now