#mulajin - Log Review
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I hate being that guy asking for other people to handhold, but I'm having a hard time analyzing myself. I know i messed the opener (I almost always do) but what are some other mistakes I'm making here?
I'm tired of performing way worse than I should this tier and I need help! 
Yeah it's more gameplay that's my question. I'm aware that my gear needs some work, it's a process I'm working on slowly. Just for example a light movement sim of my char as-is comes out to 122k, and my Rashok performance (feels like light movement is a good approximation here) is 105k
I don't expect to perform @ sim, but should be closer
I did get wrists crafted and a ring is next on my list
I do appreciate the note though 🙂
Your opener is wrong, you used flag during dance, you used feint during dance. I know you need to survive on prog but try if possible to not use feint during dance
Try to use shadow dance on 0-1 cp so you can press gloomblade as first gcd
Sec tec should be your 2nd finisher, not first
Im seeing some dances where you press it as first and some as second
Definitely work on your opener though
yeah I almost always mess the opener, but I try to get better with it over time. I'll try to focus on that a bit more
If the opener is really difficult, consider changing keybinds
I try to sectec 2nd finisher in dance just sometimes ig it comes off cd and just send it right away
One thing thats helped me is using a potion and shadow blades macro
Break that habit
Its ok if its off cd for a second or two. Send it as 2nd finisher
The only time it can be 3rd or 4th finisher is if cold blood will come off cd within your dance window. But for now focus on just making it your 2nd finisher
yeah i think it's just a reaction thing where i just see it pop and once cp is enough i just zugbrain and hit it
Fw, rupture and SnD uptime are good though. Great job there
how much is the effect here? Is just using dance immediately after a finisher generally good enough?
Your dance windows on ST with The first dance talented should look like this. Shadow dance, gloom, evis, shadowstrike, sec tec, sstrike, evis (if at 5+cp)
You get to press gloomblade during dance window giving you a DM stack and refreshing FW. You should do it
And you don't overcap CP
Basically dont press dance and then evis immediately
If you can get your opener down and your dance windows down 100%, then that’s basically most of sub rogue
Outside of that sub doesnt do too much
i have a few macros, probably need to split a couple of them:
dance+ss (change to dance+gb?, just kill entirely?)
Sod+SB
gloom+bomb
cb+secteq+bomb
Dont macro dance and gloom
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Or dance with any buildier
ok I didn't think opener was a huge deal as far as overall dps so I wasnt focusing on it so much but I can up the priority on that
Sod+sb i would undo, it worked last tier, doesnt really now since you get symbols for free during dance
The other 2 are fine
After your first dance in the opener what has your dps been?
I only macrod dance+ss because I was having a hard time getting full usage of the window (missing abilities/gcd)
depends on how well I do it, usually from memory like 120-130 but as high as 150-160
How are you having a hard time exactly? Just not pressing it fast enough?
probably? I think my subconcious brain when mechanic-ing thinks dance is on the gcd
Thats fair, if it gets to a point where your fingers cant reach certain keys in time, id suggest changing keybinds or forcing yourself to press them in time and develop carpal tunnel
I can't stand buttonmashing like a madman so i'm probably just behind the gcd a lot and my brain gets into that button pressing pattern
The only part of sub that requires button mashing is the opener, after that its pretty chill and easy
how bad would it be to put gb on the same keybind as dance and just double tap
are there situations I wouldnt want to do that?
You can for the time being if it can help you work on other things. I would just suggest to then move away from it later or do what the faq suggest and have another button
whats the use case of the other button
I didnt see that in the faqs
- The First Dance: Shadow Dance - Gloomblade - Eviscerate - Shadowstrike - Cold Blood - Secret Technique - Shadowstrike
Gloomblade in Shadow Dance: Gloomblade can be used on 4 or 5 combo points during Shadow dance to preserve the Premeditation buff or generate a DM stack.
Honestly i forgot the reasoning behind it
that second gloomblade note is saying you can gb later in dance?
or just that because of the first dance you use gb at start
No, it only means pressing it as first gcd
aye
After your first shadowstrike during dance, you wont have pre med unless you vanish
And even then if you press vanish, you should never gloom right after
this is my first expansion really playing sub for raids I was generally always outlaw(combat) or ass. Outside of slam dunking for ghuun
All good, like i said, focus on dance windows and your opener and you have most of sub down
After pressing sec tec you can press vanish then strike
ok so only after secteq
Its advised to not press vanish outside of dance unless you need the teleport to get back to the boss
What i usually do i Dance- Gloom- Evis - Shadowstrike - SecTec- Vanish - Shadowstrike- Symbols - Evis
yeah i use vanish+strike for movement sometimes
Do not press vanish strike if you arent going to get an evis off within the dance window though
Lets say you’re a little slow during dance window and you have 1 second left of dance, dont vanish strike. Save that for your next dance window
fair
This becomes more apparent if you play 6 second dance windows with some builds
You’re not losing dps as long as one vanish is on cd
ok well thanks a bunch, I'll take this and try to apply it better tonight