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glass warren Jul 10, 2023, 2:48 PM

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Hi @lunar crow I see a few things to help

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 2:49 PM

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between 0:33 and 2:12
you have not used any shivs

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 2:49 PM

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yeah I'm realizing I need to just get rid of my thistle tea/shiv macro, it's making me lazy on both of them :(

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 2:50 PM

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You've also wasted 7 CPs through mutilate (not seal fate procs)
that means you've used mutilate when you're at 5+ CP

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shiv and thistle have nothing to do with eachother, so that macro really needs to go

glass warren Jul 10, 2023, 2:51 PM

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Gonna start in order:
You procced blindside 31 times, but only used ambush 26 times, missing one at the end is normal but 5 is a pretty massive loss.

You also overcapped some CP (ignore seal fate, we don’t play around it) but the rest you want to be as close to 0 as possible.

You also wasted a bit of energy, again close to 0 as possible but you’ll never hit 0. Potential diagnosis here: you never used shadowstep in the fight, when he does the knock back, you can shadow step mid air and have 0 downtime

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All in all, since your new it’s not a bad attempt (at all!) these are very basic things that people have issues with.
The shiv thing was already mentioned so I didn’t.
That’s also a big deal, shiv very good

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 2:51 PM

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oh man I forgot I even have shadowstep

glass warren Jul 10, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Your opener is also a bit off. You wanna start with garrote from stealth. But this could have also been a preemptive pull so Shrugeg

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But yeah few big but easy things to fix and you’ll be chuckling

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 2:54 PM

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In addition to all of this.
In case you are not using any rogue WAs, it is highly recommended to use them.
Personally I use:
Luxtho's rogue WAs
My own sepsis WA (linked in pins)

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these will greatly helps you with uptime on dots

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and seeing when an ability is off cooldown

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 2:55 PM

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I will look into both of those, thank you. I'm using a custom one for uptimes that reminds me of old elvui but the one you mentioned might be better, and I've got a sepsis one but I don't even know which it is.

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opener I think I just screwed up and fan of knives'd on accident and broke my stealth lol

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 2:56 PM

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it takes a while to get used to openers. especially on pulls, if you haven't done it 200 times, you can panic sometimes

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 2:56 PM

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well, no, stealth bar has garrote as 1, normal bar has FoK as 1, I must not have been stealthed to start. That's just a messup

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that or something broke stealth just before the pull

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 2:57 PM

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but luckily, sin opener, while can be optimized, is hard to completely mess up.

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 2:58 PM

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so overcapping CPs means I used a builder when I was max, right?

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 2:59 PM

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mutilate as baseline, provides 2 CPs.
it has a chance to give between 1-2 more CPs with a "seal fate" proc.
(seal fate: critical hit with some abilities generate CP)

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which means

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you have used mutilate when you had less than 2 CP missing.

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e.g. using mutilate at 5 CP

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:00 PM

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got it. I'm bad about panic doing that. Something I'll have to focus on.

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:01 PM

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Next, do you know about sepsis interaction with shiv?

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:02 PM

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I know I'm supposed to try to line up shiv with certain like, 30 second milestones in the fight, but not really why and I get messed up in execution

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:04 PM

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I think you got it confused somewhat.
so first of all, the WA i made can help you.

but i'll explain the logic:

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:04 PM

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(I am totally using your sepsis weakaura btw, thanks for that.)

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:05 PM

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When you use sepsis, you apply a DoT to the target that lasts 10 seconds.
When that DoT expires, it deals extra damage on the last tick.
And it's all naute damage.

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Shiv increases nature damage dealt.
So you want to use shiv on the target, before sepsis expires.
Shiv lasts 8 seconds.

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So in practice, it should go like this:

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Use Sepsis
Use Garrote
Use shiv

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(that also means, that if sepsis is about to come off CD, you hold shiv for it)

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:07 PM

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Alright yeah I had no clue it interacted like that. Mind blown.

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:08 PM

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it's very simple in practice.

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i hope i didn't make it sound complicated, i just explained the logic behind it

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:08 PM

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question then, because I feel I'm running into this a lot. I'll have a garotte on the target already, sepsis comes off cooldown.

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I end up waiting for the garrote to run its course

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before I sepsis and garotte

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should I just be overwriting the garotte when sepsis is off cooldown?

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:11 PM

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Do you know how the "pandemic" mechanic works in wow?

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:12 PM

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Not really. I've seen the term used but never knew what it meant

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:12 PM

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!pandemic

grizzled mulchBOT Jul 10, 2023, 3:12 PM

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Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:13 PM

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So what does this mean?

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For ecample, If garrote is used, while garrote still has 2s left

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Those 2 seconds will be added to the new garrote

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You won't lose them

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:14 PM

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so as long as it's under 5.4 seconds I'm good?

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on garotte

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:15 PM

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Yes

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But in addition to that

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:15 PM

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well there's another game changer for me

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:16 PM

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If you override with an empowered garrote, the extra time will also be empowered

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The reverse is true if you override an empowered with normal. So be careful.
Let an empowered garrote run its full tine.

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:17 PM

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so after vanish and sepsis I want to be applying the new garrote with 5.4s remaining

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but try to avoid overwriting those

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:19 PM

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I think we covered most of the big stuff.
Goodluck 🙂

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:19 PM

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thank you so much for your time.

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same to tyrant as well. huge knowledge gain for me here. :)

quartz spire Jul 10, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Ah one last thing. Rupture also has the pandemic mechanic

lunar crow Jul 10, 2023, 3:22 PM

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Yup, gathered that, that's gonna change things so much. I was doing so much holding off of rupture and garrote applications, trying to let them get their full DoT off

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