#nexusjr - Log Review

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opal muralBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

scenic bridge
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this is from the 1st boss opener.

quite a bit of issues here:

  1. that rupture should be after the flag, this gets your flag stacks rolling asap

  2. you dont shadow strike once in this dance, thats a lot of CP left on the table.

  3. I havent double checked but its VERY unlikley that Sec tec is at 6+

  4. you're also leaving a lot of dm stacks on the table dancing like this. In ST your dances are pretty static, it should look something closer to: Dance+shadowstrike->evis->shadowstrike->[gb if you need cp to get to 6+]->sectec->[ss->evis till dance ends]

  5. your coldblood is after your sec tec, consider just macroing them so you dont have to think about it. The cooldowns line up so every other sec tec will be cb'd.

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You also storm a few times in this fight - even if you could cleave the tempests with them, only damage that matters is on boss and just hammering your ST rotation will be more relevent

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actually pulling the camera back a bit - 50 casts of Shadow strike over the course of 25 minutes is criminally low

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i get the vibe you're using it only when you vanish/ between packs

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Every dance; including in aoe up to about 8 targets, should have at least 1 shadow strike in it

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CD usage also sorta low; 12 over 25 for flag sounds like you held ~6 casts

jagged junco
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okok noted, i do wanna say, that my cb and sectrch are macro'd together, it's weird that it's casting after'

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that's my macro for it

scenic bridge
jagged junco
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i did have one time i noticed where somehow it went off after

scenic bridge
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For aoe the dance looks vetter but these globals hould be swapped

clear dirge
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Hey,

Just looking at your first pack of the dungeon, there is already a lot of bad stuff.

  • You always want to press flag before a finisher, in this case of an opener, you should have pressed flag before rupture.
  • You then dance into sectec at 1CP which is a huge loss, considering it is your most hard hitting ability
  • You usually want to cast sectec as your 2nd finisher in your dance anyway, not your first
  • With new tier set you don"t wanna overlap symbol cast with dance, since dance provides your with a small symbol already
  • Since this is vortex first pull, I assume this is a 4 target pack. You still want to cast 1 shadowstrike even in aoe until 8targerts to consume your premeditation buff
  • You only casted 7 spells during your dance, when you should always aim to cast 8 spells
scenic bridge
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since sec tecs CD is reduced and cb isnt

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if you're doing it that early you're much more likely to be STing before CB is actually up

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You'll see the CB cast after if you spam your next global during the gcd

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which is somethng melee players like to do

clear dirge
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For the cold blood issue, I assume you spammed ur sectec macro while cb was still on cd for a few sec and the spell queue made it that it was used just after sectec

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happens, not a big deal

scenic bridge
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For targeted practice; I'd honestly suggest just reviewing the #subtlety-faq dance windows (#subtlety-faq message) and just hammer those on a dummy until they're second nature

jagged junco
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which would you say i need more practice on?
the ST opener or the AOE one?
gotta admit i'm like brand new to rogue, and i've stopped using my roto helper so i'm still learnin learnin

clear dirge
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Id start with ST

jagged junco
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just is anything seems really weird i probably panicked and forgot to press somethin

clear dirge
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once you master ST, aoe is pretty easy

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sub is pretty simple once you understand why you press your buttons

jagged junco
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makes sense, AOE is just shoving flag back to right after ss no?

scenic bridge
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Aoe is harder to mess up just cause its 2 buttons

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The mess up in aoe is you're sec teching too early too often

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your ST dances, as nicely as i can say it, are totally fucked, tbh

clear dirge
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Also, you can play the dark brew build if you find hard to use flag

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both builds are equal, and its 1 less button to manage

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(pretty sure most ppl are playing dark brew in m+)

jagged junco
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so the only difference from flag to DB is there's no flag?

scenic bridge
jagged junco
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okok i think i'm getting it