#Rui - Log Review

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frozen vineBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

radiant sail
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It would help a lot to look through the #subtlety-faq and/or wowhead guide

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some major improvements would be to improve your dances, e.g stop casting shuriken storm on single target unless it's at the very beginning instead of your first gloomblade to guarantee find weakness

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stop wasting the first dance CP by casting ss right after dance

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use tea with dance in opener

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delay symbols for 3 seconds after casting dance with tier 30 2p

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follow !symbols and !tea rules(type the commands in sub channel)

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you're also using gear that's very clearly optimized for m+, with storm annulet, mastery stacking etc

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radiant sail
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it's !symbols not dance mb

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raiding is almost purely crit vers atm, you should also be using the freezing ice stone in annulet

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the first dance and premeditation are two talents a lot of newer sub rogues overlook but they play a big part in why out dance rotation is like it is

split glade
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I see, i'll change the stone as soon as I can, do you think the damage will be noticable with just that change? or just doing all the things listed I should be hitting higher parses if I do them correctly

radiant sail
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cleaning up your dances will see the biggest change

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do you know how to sim your character?

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With this opener, I always thought getting higher Macabre stacks were better which is why I pressed a lot of random abilities during dance

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radiant sail
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yea it's not, you gain a lot more damage from more shadowstrikes/evis casts

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the opener will basically always look exactly like that because after rupture you gain 4CP from the first dance->3cp from gloom->evis->6+cp from ss(thanks to premeditation and shadowblades)->sectec

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after that you can vanish again to guarantee 6+cp for the next evis or just ss until 5+ cp and evis

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if that makes sense

split glade
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Kind of, I'll probably start off with a couple of your tips to start with and slowly implement them as time goes on, seems like i've been doing quite a lot wrong

radiant sail
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tbh im kinda overcomplicating it cause you can follow some rules 100% strictly and get like 90%+ of the way there

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  1. Use shadow blades, flagellation and symbols on CD(unless dance is coming up in ~10 seconds, in which cast you wait until 3 seconds into dance to cast symbols)
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  1. Use tea in the opener dance and whenever you're starved for energy with ~5+ seconds left until symbols is off cd or ~10s until dance
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  1. Always cast secret technique as your 2nd spender in dance, most dances after the opener will simply be dance->gloom->evis->ss->sectec->ss until 5 or more cp->evis
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  1. Macro cold blood to secret technique and forget about it, you never want to delay secret technique unless it's literally 1-2 globals and you never cast cold blood with any other ability
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thats basically it

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and in case you're unsure you want to cast spenders on 5 or more cp inside dance, 6 or more outside dance

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4 or more on 3+ targets

split glade
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Ah I see now, i'll give all of this ago, might take a while for me to improve, a lot more things to know than when I used to play fire mage lol. Thanks for all your help :D

radiant sail
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no worries, it might seem like a lot but if you just get the dances down everything kinda falls into place