#Chase6594 - Log Review

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worthy glenBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

wintry tapir
daring dock
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So from the get-go your opener is wrong

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This is what it should look like

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You are also desyncing secret technique from dance which is a massive dps loss

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Some rule of thumbs as subtlety:

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Never cast secret technique outside of dance

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Always aim to cast dance on cooldown

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Aim to cast secret technique as your second spender inside each dance

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Never cast cold blood without secret technique, but never delay secret technique for cold blood or vice versa unless it's 1-2 globals(e.g if you can cast secret technique as your 3rd spender inside dance to get cold blood)

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@wintry tapir

wintry tapir
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Hello Rui,

Thank you so much for looking at my log; I really appreciate your insight.! Yeah, I wasn't 100% sure about the opener. I've been looking at the WoWhead, YouTube, and Method.gg, etc. Most of the stuff I researched had different openers. So I was just doing different openers and then I was just doing random stuff to try and see if my DPS/parses would increase. I will stick to the one you just listed from now on.

Is anything else major/minor or were those the only things?

Again, thank you so much for your help with logs, I really do appreciate all of the corrections!

daring dock
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Well if you do the things I mentioned the other things will likely fix themselves as you understand why the rotation is like it is

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You do waste a lot of premeditation CPs though but that's a result of not doing shadow dance rotation correctly

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I recommend reading the first dance and premeditation talents

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Because of these two, in raid you'll almost always start your shadow dance with shadow dance->gloomblade->eviscerate

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You generally prefer starting with 0 CP when specced into the first dance due to danse macabre, and shadow dance lasting for 8 globals so if you start with a generator you fit 4 spenders

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You specifically use gloomblade because of danse macabre stacks but also because it saves your premeditation for the shadowstrike before your secret technique

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If that makes sense

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So after opener your dance rotations should be 0cp shadow dance->gloomblade->evis->shadow strike->secret technique->shadow strike->evis(or shadow strike if below 5cp)

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You can also vanish shadow strike after secret technique to proc premeditation again for more damage(shadowstrike does 25% more damage from true stealth which doesnt trigger from dance)

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and guaranteed 5+cp

wintry tapir
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Okay, perfect!

Yeah, I'm not sure why I can't wrap my head around the fact I get 4 CP from The First Dance.

Yes, that all makes perfect sense! Thank you again, you're a life saver!

I seriously can not thank you enough!

daring dock
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Happy to help 🙂

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I can recommend getting a macro that changes shadow dance to gloomblade while in dance, that way you can press the same keybind twice to use dance->gloomblade

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Very useful when playing the first dance

wintry tapir
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That would be wonderful!

daring dock
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Also worth noting that if you're playing silent storm talent it's worth using shuriken storm instead of gloomblade specifically in the opener to 100% guarantee the find weakness debuff for your dance window, but that's more min-max and less of an issue than the other things

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wintry tapir
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Okay cool! I'll worry about min-maxing once I un-fuck my opener, haha.

daring dock
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Yep! The biggest thing is to get your dance rotations down and making sure you set yourself up to be able to use your CD immediately as they come up

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e.g refreshing slice and dice, rupture so they don't run out during dance or having to delay dance to cast them, and pooling energy slightly before dance windows(not as much of a thing with the new tier set)

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and not wasting teas when symbols are coming up

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Sub is almost entirely "play dances correctly while not wasting resources or delaying cds"

wintry tapir
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Sick, thank you so much for all the insight. I can tell that I have already unlocked the unused parts of my brain and i'm about to break the meters next raid once I fix everything, haha.

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Okay, I thought I use SoD and TT since they both increase Damage and Mastery

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Thank you for that insight!

daring dock
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Good luck Sinscheme feel free to come back with another log after you feel like you've gotten a hang of it

wintry tapir
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Okay sick, will do!