#Precise - Log Review

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robust sapphireBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

upbeat sparrow
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Just looking for tips on how to improve. Thanks

bleak cave
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@upbeat sparrow

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nvm

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found it

upbeat sparrow
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Thank you!

bleak cave
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wrong order

vanish -> strike

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not strike -> vanish

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dont strike after dance with first dance talent equiped

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use GB instead

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you overcap hard with strike after dance with TFD

upbeat sparrow
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Is this terrors you're looking at?

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Just want to make sure I connect the dots correctly

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Terros

bleak cave
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in a span of 1 minute u used ALL your tea charges

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yes you linked terros here

upbeat sparrow
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You don't tea every dance? Just the first one then based on energy from that point forward?

bleak cave
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dont tea every dance in ST unless u are capped / close to getting capped on chargse

upbeat sparrow
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Gotcha

bleak cave
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u use tea for energy

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not dmg

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on ST

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so only in opener since u have 3 stacks anyway

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after that only for energy

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unless u have 3 charges again

upbeat sparrow
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Okay I def misunderstood that then

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Awesome tips!

bleak cave
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dont use GB in dance after the first one

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completely butchered this one XD

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dont Vanish out of dance

UNLESS YOU NEED THE MOBILITY(teleport)
(not the case on terros)

upbeat sparrow
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Misunderstood that too thought every dance you GB to make sure premed gets the full bonus

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For more finishers in SD

bleak cave
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Gloomblade in Shadow Dance:
Gloomblade can be used as a builder during Shadow Dance. The typical use is as first global when playing with The First Dance, this prevents combo point overflow from Shadowstrike(Premediation) and generates stacks of Danse Macabre. If not playing with The First Dance you will only use Gloomblade when on 4 or 5 combo points before Secret Technique.

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since u run TFD in ST

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u dont use it after the first one

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and without it you would only use it before SecTec if u reach 4 / 5 cp's

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no where else

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not after sectec

upbeat sparrow
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Interesting

bleak cave
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this is ur dance rotation

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  • including vanish / CB
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i butchered my opener

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so ignore that

upbeat sparrow
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So after TFD you always GB once door an Elvis then you only SS and finish?

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After SD with TFD**

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Good grief auto correct... SD GB Evis SS Sectec SS Evis SS evis

bleak cave
upbeat sparrow
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Should always make sure rupture is to before SD so all finishers go to evis or is a SD rupture ever a possibility?

bleak cave
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no

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rupture outside dance

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Finality rupture:
Optimizing around finality is mainly about consuming the buff in time, the optimal way to do so is to prepare Rupture for Shadow Dance. This means to use Rupture if the remaining cooldown of Shadow Dance is lower than 10 seconds and you have the Finality: Rupture buff.
This optimization can lead to 2 Rupture casts between Shadow Dance, this is not a mistake. This optimization is only relevant on pure single target.

upbeat sparrow
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Why vanish in SD if the Evis that follows is not I'm SD or does it barely make it?

bleak cave
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premed bro

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and ur Evis is in dance

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u get 4 finishers max in dance

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so since vanish is befor the 3rd

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u always get it in

upbeat sparrow
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Okay things are starting to make more since I'll do another terros with suggestions and see if I improve anything else you're seeing way off?

bleak cave
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rotation will help you a lot

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so to recap

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  • practise dance rotation
  • use tea optimal
  • vanish optimal
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ur using SecTec 2nd finisher ✅

thats already something i dont see a lot in log reviews xd

upbeat sparrow
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Thanks! I'll post another once I have it hopefully sometime tomorrow on some difficulty to compare with better DPS!! Thanks again

bleak cave
bleak cave
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Will look in a bit

upbeat sparrow
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Thank you, much appreciated @bleak cave

bleak cave
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giga loss here on dmg output, every missed gcd in dance is a massive dps loss

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looking at terros now*

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missed sectec here

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another gcd wasted

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you're losing a LOT of dmg due to downtime / bad dance uptime

ur dances have LOADS of open gaps which causes you to lose gcd's which is really bad for ur dps gains since u are building dps based on dance burst windows.

macro SecTec + CB
macro Dance + GB
be more consistant in casting more gcd's inside dance

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outside of that.
ur gear is lowkey holding you back.
no eranog ring
no grieftorch
no CCT
no Spiteful
haste belt
392 trinket
409 ilvl

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thats really bad for mythic logs

upbeat sparrow
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yea im not getting lucky on loot rools

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my rogue is only 3 weeks old though

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i do have Sectec and CB macroed together but i swear sometimes it doesnt go off correctly

bleak cave
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then ur not in sectec range

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maybe u run too far away from the boss

upbeat sparrow
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hmm ok

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is the SD GB macro just /cast SD / cast GB?

bleak cave
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yes

open canyon
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I did watch the video and have sime ideas/improvements, i hope you don't mind.

In the opener, it is probably slightly more ideal to position yourself between adds/boss.
I found that using strike-storm-... works well
but potentially even opening with storm is ideal (it is interesting to discuss)

This is because you want to have FW up on all targets and silent storm guarantees it.

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after the first drag in, you can start positioning yourself slightly closer to the ramp, if your range positions a bit better it would be even better, but it would allow you to utialize the spiderlings to funnel boss damage and generate additional cdr.
e.g. you had the add in range here but didn't use storm

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it is more a micro-optimization tho, so will come down to your raid group and how close adds are to allow you to funnel.
You would still want to GB directly after dance due to lingering

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you can abuse spiderlings after the stairs too, e.g. position yourself closer to them here to get some additional cdr

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when the add spawn is close you usually want to move a bit more towards the middle to faster switch

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in this case here , the add ended up out of reach but you also ended up holding your combo points

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ideally you could position yourself closer to the add

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this way you could have finished on senath but went from there on

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^ additionally you had silent storm up

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a position closer to the add would have liekly allowed you to storm-rupture-dance

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(but it is a small optimization, you played it fine)

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on the drag in after that you had a web besides you

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utializing it wold have allowed you to negate the drag in, what is nice for this one given that you else teleport back and need to run back quite a bit

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also a side node, you are very conservative with your vanish charges

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^ e.g. you did sit on 2 charges at that point

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2nd ramp had similar to first ramp the oppotunity to get yourself some more combo points from spiderlings

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also a small tip, you can position yourself behind the stone to negate the drag in after 2nd ramp similar to firts ramp

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it would mean that you can get higher uptime, you did run away here with no ability use

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after third ramp, you can just step the drag in, no need to turn away and run.

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haha, i hope you wanted a "vod review"

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and maybe precise finds it interessting too

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(i had more fun than in typical reviews because visuals allow a bit more specific feedback(

bleak cave
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Wow

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Good morning to you too @open canyon LOL

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Gonna be honest; love this!

My only side note is. I am no where near looking at min maxing and going for optimal dmg on a first kill, while also raidleading.

But for a reclear this is amazing Pog

open canyon
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oh, you raidlead too

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uff thats quite a bit of mental load

bleak cave
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Yea it is haha! U hear it super softly in the vid maybe