#uketore - Log Review
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aight ill take a look at it once i get home
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greatly appreciate it
gathered some gear+ fluency in the mean time but the results are the same
ill actually record a new one
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cant show u this one 
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still uploaded both - theres quite some rotational mistakes you prob can tell i havent played outlaw in a while
even without those i dont seem to squeeze more out so there has to be like a conceptional mistake - friend with 405 (similar gear) was doing 80 in the non AA/RLP dungeons
tulip belfry
both of them are still being uploaded so you can either wait for them to finish and ill take a look when they are or i just go over the cos one
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says they are still being processed while the first one you send i didnt have any issues with just clicking the link and the video opening
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nope
thats what google says
so its prob just gonna take a while to upload
bc its a full key of video length
tulip quarry
thats super weird bcs it says for me: you have uploaded this document today
but sure the court one is fine too if you dont mind
its more or less still the same
tulip belfry
ok ill just do the cos then and check back later if the other 2 are uploaded to check if some of the inconsistencies from back when he cos was originally made to the more recent logs are still a thing
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i wonder if its due to google
ill try and upload it somewhere else dont really want u waiting o stuff tbh
tulip belfry
how long are the other 2 vods?
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any provider u pref?
around 30
i would like if you
please dont look at all the 30 mins
thats to much imo
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yeah its easier to track proc usage when thigns are a bit slowed down
bc outlaw just is quite fast and that doesnt rly change
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understood
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i mean i said id take a look at it and i did
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people can just be added to dropbox right?
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probably idk?
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checking it after key
weird it costs now
google drive is still uploading it i can only come back to tell when its done
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okay, you actually didnt do too bad in the cos and certainly arent making any fundamental mistakes so i can give you those news upfront.
vanish and dance usage are also quite good. However id like to mention this since it happens a few times in the vod. While you can just ignore ps during dance with cto you are still applying the old rule to it while you are in your subterfuge window. so basically ignore ps until you hit max fth stacks and then just use ps as next builder similar to how it used to be without cto dance. other than that both dance and vanish are fine and being used correctly.
one of the bigger things ive noticed is that you have a tendency to just be a bit late into the pack sometimes which even with a perfect rotation is just gonna lower your overall if you go into the pack later than the other people. Tricks basically allows us to be the first in combat after the tank without having a lot of threat issues (most of the time).
while im a big fan of using br quite aggressively there is a few cases where you A. pressed it in dance when you still had enough energy to cast ambush or B. pressed it near full energy with barely any targets (ik gauging when to use br can be a bit tricky since we dont have an exact formular other than at 70-80on st and just use on cd past 9) so its mainly a feel thing which takes time to figure out.
last thing to note is the same as in every log ive ever checked is to watch your ss casts. NEVER EVER EVER NEVER NEVER EVER press ss when you have either audacity or fth active those will always take priority happened a few times in the log aswell
that should cover most of the stuff you have to look out for if i didnt miss anything
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ye all g
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thx alot for taking the time to look at it and type this out
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i actually tought i was told that ignoring ps in sub is dps neutral aswell
mybe i missunderstood somenthing
tulip belfry
its probably not a big thing to just default to the dance rule where you ignore ps even with subt
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ye i can easily fix that
this will also probably sound ignorant but
those "little" things amount to that much?
tulip belfry
yes
outlaw is all about little things that add up over the course of a key/ if repeated enough
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damn
but i do need to do less SS
its this preemtively clicking
even tho the procc is just appearing
tulip belfry
yeah the ss thing is sth that makes up for a lot of the "little" things
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did it happen alot?
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you dont rly notice it until you know that you are doing it or are being told that you are doing it and is gonna result in a lot cleaner loops happening
didnt count it but it happened enough for me to notice 
but it was fine most of the time
its just a matter of reducing the amount of times you accidentally cast ss instead of one of your procs
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will type after boss
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also another thing which is more a personal thing and up to you if you want to change it, might wanna clear your ui a bit i think i saw bte and poisons being tracked in 4 different spots at one point. having a clean ui is just a big qol change imo
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almost done
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yeah dw
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should be tracked at one spot
i think not sure
using afenar only if im not mistaken
this will also sound ignorant but i do have a good " i shouldnt have pressed that" observation
i just never tought it would be that significant
but now that you said the SS thing
i noticed it sooo much more
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im mainly talking about unit frames tracking stuff and me noticing it but if you are mainly tracking with your actual wa its fine
also since i didnt mention it already, key dps is gonna vary from both key lvl and route. small improvements especially in low target count keys like cos are quite significant for overall
like dragging trash onto the minibosses for example
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think im only looking at the afnera wa
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do you want me to go pull extra trash?
is that what youre saying
what i do wonder is tho
and i just noticed it at this boss
im more or less on gcd when stuff come up
but somehow sometimes the proccs are delayed
which makes me SS sometimes even tho i shouldnt
apart from the times where i really shouldnt but i just press the wrong button
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yeah ik what you mean, i just default to the mindset that ill need to use another proc after and wait a tiny bit after i used a proc to see if i need another one
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so im to hasty in the playstyle
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just takes some practice to get it largely out of your rotation and actually paying attention to it esp when is not fully muscle memory just yet
yeah waiting just a tiny bit after a builder and i literally mean just a few ms to see if you had a delayed proc
shouldnt impact your casts per minute at all since its just such a tiny timeframe after a builder and add a bit of protection for ss casts
but just paying attention to it a bit more is gonna result in fewer casts by itself
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makes sense
weirdly enough the other 2 vod's
had much more rotational mistakes since ive been playing sub quite a bit to see how it is
results were same or better than the cos
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cos is weird bc big overalls need to have a healer do the skip while everyone else does the harbor for count which by itself is a nice pull in terms of size
so cos numbers depend a lot on if you are doing the skip start or not
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still
20k diffrence is ALOT
didnt think it would be that muhc
40 in AA
to my fellow rogue
thanks alot for the time ill work on it
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do you know anything about dk's?:D
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thats the best part no