#Jonnyrage - Log Review
solemn palm
median pond
so some other people might have some better insights but a few things:
compared to the other rogues, you don't have the cowl+ring combo. this is a good chunk you're missing
you're doing the wrong dance rotation. you're playing like you don't have tfd, which leads to a lot of cp waste
there is a finality rupture optimization that you could do that is actually pretty easy and nets a good increase
review your tea usage? it looks like you use it every dance which is likely to be wrong. it might be lining up, but it definitely shouldn't hit every time over the fight
shrewd forge
whats tfd
median pond
the first dance, its a talent that gives you 4 cp when going into dance
median pond
you'll want to change that to account for your talent choice, or have two macros that you swap out. but you waste a ton of cp from that
shrewd forge
i try to throw in a glmblade before my sectret techique is that right?
median pond
not for your build
shrewd forge
and yea the rupture thing i just realized now
median pond
with tfd you should be doing
Shadow Dance sequence with Danse Macabre:
- The First Dance: Shadow Dance - Gloomblade - Eviscerate - Shadowstrike - Cold Blood - Secret Technique - Shadowstrike
median pond
yea its fine, you've even got imp poisons off the class tree which is like a .01 increase or something tiny lol.
shrewd forge
lol nice thanks for the info man
median pond
you could have definitely fit your entire last dance into the fight with better play, and maybe been close to another one
shrewd forge
yea thats proabaly why i should use tea out of dance more
median pond
to show you an unfair comparison, stealthi's guild put up some public logs so you can see some comparisons:
shorter fight for him ofc, but a lot less waste
for the rupture thing, if you look at the bottom of your buffs you can see when you had the finality rupture buff.
shrewd forge
yea i havnt been doing that well
median pond
with the optimization, your buff screen will look like this
shrewd forge
i just now started to fix that
median pond
the green windows are when you've got a finality rupture applied to the enemy (seen inversely, because you no longer have the buff)
basically lets you get every dance with a finality rupture going after the first one, and its just a cycle of "boosted rupture lasts 2 dances" -> "normal rupture in downtime" -> "boosted rupture before the next dance starts"
but fixing your dance is the biggest thing, followed by tea. you're still goign to be behind those 2 other rogues just because of gear though
shrewd forge
so yea the fixing the dance would be just glomblade as first global evis then ss st
and the tea il just tea more often out of dance when low on energy
il use my finality 10 secs before shadow dance
even if rupture doesnt need to be refreshed
median pond
yea i'd also keep an eye on making sure you're finishing at the right cp ranges, you were talking about energy issues and that combined with bad tea usage are usually why that crops up in a st build
shrewd forge
yea i def finished on low combo point sin dance on that cause i forgot that it had to be 5 not 4
i just refreshe don the rules today
when i take a tea what energy should i be at
like 50 right
median pond
i'm looking a bit more at the outside of dance as well, like here this is likely finishing at too low cp (though might be ok if you got super lucky with wm and crits):
below 50 yea, it gives you 100. though if you're about to finish, remember that'll likely net you some energy too
shrewd forge
so yea outside of dance i should only finish at 6 combo points il keep a eye on that
median pond
like if those weren't all at 6+ you lost a lot of energy doing that sequence
median pond
yea not saying that you can't get up there with lucky procs on our stuff, just jumped out at me, and it'd be another source of feeling out of energy
shrewd forge
someties i get combo point when not even using a move and pooling
dont know why that happens
median pond
iirc its like 0%-0%-50%-100% per swing, and resets when you get a proc? its consistent anyways
shrewd forge
i just send teas on shdaow dance while low on energy
which i will stop doing
it feel awful
median pond
if it lines up its fine, better to use a tea than delay dance
but the thing is it shouldn't be coming up every time basically
shrewd forge
yea
median pond
like in that situation its the best usage, but essentially you're using tea to patch up mistakes
shrewd forge
lol yea
the tea is my copium
thanks tho you actually helped alot
cant believe how wrong i was playing my dances on that build
median pond
it can be easy if you've just been doing the other build, because your rotation was correct for when you don't take tfd
median pond
one other minor increase you can do is to change your opener
you did this
ignoring the grieftorch cast, if you do this instead you'll force fw and get a better initial dance
shrewd forge
oh nice ye ai keep hearing about use shrunken to get find the weakness
they also say i can replace glomblade in dance with ss
if i have improved ss
median pond
after the start its not really an issue because of how many glooms you'll be casting
thats an option but glooms still better damage so unless you need to force fw stick to the gloom
shrewd forge
ok
median pond
theres a few cases where it might come up, like after an aoe add phase or something
median pond
hopefully the energy situation feels a lot better in the future. just for reference, your dance rotation was wasting 2cp minimum (4 from tfd + 5 from ss&premed = overcap by 2+), which is 10 energy off of relentless
but on the bright side, your logs weren't like a house of horrors or anything
🙂
shrewd forge
lol thank you