alexoph - Log Review | Ravenholdt | Page 1

stone daggerBOT Feb 16, 2023, 4:39 AM

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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:39 AM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KRcwQthgA2rmNLqT#fight=10&type=damage-done&source=7

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:42 AM

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am bored so i'll take a look

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you have wrong talents to start off with

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you took ghostly > bladerush

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and KS over precise cuts

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also don't have ambidexterity and picked up hit and run for some reason

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if you really want that 15% extra MS then you can take fleet footed

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:44 AM

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Hi there, about the first two, those are the recommended talents for single target HO in the FAQ, are they wrong or is it fight specific?

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:44 AM

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you also dont have dancing steel

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yeah but kurog isn't really a ST fight

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:45 AM

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isn't it?, theres only a couple of multi target places

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:45 AM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bfAHrhdyGDJWnPBx#fight=27&type=damage-done&source=7

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my log for kurog

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bladeflurry is 16% of my damage

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so theres a significant amount of add uptime

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in intermission

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and also on earth phase

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:45 AM

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oof, ok, that's hurting me a lot then

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:45 AM

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okay its more so, the gain on ST you get from those talents

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is very much offset by the aoe loss

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you also used shocking disclosure pot, but i dunno if thats negligible in ST vs elemental power

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i dunno much about ghostly strike in opener so i wont comment on that

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but opener looks okay i think

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except you want to AR -> RTB before the pull

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not really that much loss but it's a minor thing

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your ambush ambush -> bte -> HO proc -> SND is correct

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:48 AM

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surreal grail you also used shocking disclosure pot, but i dunno if thats negligible in ST vs ...

yeah, that one i could improve, its just cheaper, and since the faq says its negligible i only take SD

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:48 AM

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you can also sim yourself with potions

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to see whats best

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#subtlety-faq message

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uhhhh

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you casted Sdance before vanish

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should always vanish before sdance

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you also casted 2 sinister strikes before sdancing

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coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:49 AM

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surreal grail except you want to AR -> RTB before the pull

oh, i didn't do that? yeah, that must be a mistake, i have the two macroed so i always pop them before going out of stealth

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:49 AM

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you dont have them on a macro

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at least im pretty sure you dont

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wait maybe its fine

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since AR is off gcd

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but really you shouldnt have it macroed incase you AR and overwrite a good RTB

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:50 AM

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i also have AR without RTB, just not the other way around

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:50 AM

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you don't want to 5 roll and then overwrite with GM + something shit

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okay cool

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:50 AM

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But to be hones i almost never use just AR :V

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:51 AM

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should rename that to SWIFTY ONE SHOT MACRO for cool points and put in your potion

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😛

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:51 AM

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hahahahaahah, damn, thats a trip

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:51 AM

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actually dont put in potion otherwise you just burn gold

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:51 AM

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i used to have my trinkets in it, but they broke my stealth :V

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:51 AM

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anyways back to the log

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yeah

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:51 AM

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hahaha, yeah, im not that rich

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:51 AM

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uhhh get a better trinket

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horn is sorta meh tier

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just get better trinket 4head

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:52 AM

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Now i have them in my dispatch :V

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:52 AM

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oh you didn't cast vanish once that pull

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that aint it chief

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:52 AM

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aaaaaaaaah hahahah

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:53 AM

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surreal grail just get better trinket 4head

Is the gear page in wowhead good for the trinket tier list? the horn is just the best i have, this is a fresh-ish char

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:53 AM

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mhmmm not really

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thats probably like

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2 month out of date

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bis lists don't really exist

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:53 AM

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damn, the FAQ doesn't mention good trinkets to aim for either

dark flame Feb 16, 2023, 4:54 AM

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!fuu

stone daggerBOT Feb 16, 2023, 4:54 AM

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Rogue Spreadsheet - Light: http://tiny.cc/2bq0vz / Dark: http://tiny.cc/xdu1vz

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:54 AM

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are good

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any one of those

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if you cant get from raid you can farm hunger of the pack from m+

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just don't be like that one guy who i last saw his name was 96 HoV run no hunger of the pack

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you can also use a ruby whelp shell from RLP

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or dance moon deck but that costs gold

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:55 AM

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oooh, i might go for that one, trinket farming doesn't sound appealing :'v

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:55 AM

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it's not really

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but outlaw gets a lot of damage from trinkets

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:56 AM

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Also a passive trinket sounds great, i don't like to think

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:56 AM

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so kinda just cope until it drops from vault i guess

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yeah passive trinkets are nice

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i dont like using 2 on use trinekts

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:57 AM

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aight, imma focus on learning vanish and dance usage

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:58 AM

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on the plus side from a quick glance your CP usage doesnt look horrible

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at least you arent finishing on 4cp that often i can see

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 4:59 AM

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only when i get distracted, mainly during dance

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 4:59 AM

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yeah it happens, im still struggling from muscle memory with old HO outlaw

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since youre fresh might be a bit easier

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:00 AM

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coarse fulcrum aight, imma focus on learning vanish and dance usage

yeah work on this and get right talents

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and your dps should improve quite a bit

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:00 AM

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i also just have a couple finisher macros that pop up on 5+cp

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:01 AM

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your SND uptime is good

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oh wait yeah don't be finishing on 5 cp

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wait leme look at it again

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:01 AM

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surreal grail yeah work on this and get right talents

yeah i didn't think kurog was such an aoe fight

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:01 AM

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kk nvm you have a lot of finishes on 5 which you shouldnt do

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nvm your CP usage is bad

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🙃

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:02 AM

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:'v

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:02 AM

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coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:02 AM

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sorry, my WA is fine, i think, its 5+ not 5

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:02 AM

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oh

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yeah >5 is right

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unless wclog is bugging out

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that 3:20 period had a lot of cp5 finishers

dark flame Feb 16, 2023, 5:04 AM

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Zoom in a bit

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:04 AM

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is that during dance?

dark flame Feb 16, 2023, 5:05 AM

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The graph is jumbled if you view the entire fight at once

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:05 AM

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oh zoom in it looks okay

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:05 AM

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phew

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:06 AM

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@dark flame how do you check for sitting on shit rolls?

dark flame Feb 16, 2023, 5:06 AM

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You go to the buffs tab and pin each rtb buff

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And then go to the casts tab and pin rtb casts

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then you can gauge which buffs were rolled away quickly and which were held for a long time

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:07 AM

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Sorry if its in spanish, i didn't log it XD

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:07 AM

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like that?

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:08 AM

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coarse fulcrum Sorry if its in spanish, i didn't log it XD

wc log has auto translate. youre fine

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:09 AM

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ah, yeah, there we go

dark flame Feb 16, 2023, 5:09 AM

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So you see between 1:30 and 2:00 you had GM + BT for an extended period of time

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not sure if you rerolled asap there

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But also the culmination of previous mistakes means RTB average cooldown is longer

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:10 AM

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For RTB i'm ussing this WA https://wago.io/Pd53s_NPU with no changes, RTB Only, blade flurry and slice and dice off

Roll the Bones

Roll rules updated: 08.01.2023 - (DD.MM.YYYY) Features Supports HO and KIR buildsAssists with Roll the Bones usage with

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:10 AM

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i think thats up to date

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but it's also worth just trying to learn the combos

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sounds like theres a lot but its really not that complex

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we hate Grand melee and love skull and crossbone

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so anything GM + X except snc we get rid of

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and we keep anything involving snc

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single rolls also get rid of

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:14 AM

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You've been a great help, thanks guys

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:15 AM

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no worries mate. i learnt how to check for shit RTB rolls as well so win/win

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glhf with it

coarse fulcrum Feb 16, 2023, 5:15 AM

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haha, thanks, i'm gonna try to build up some dance/vanish muscle memory

surreal grail Feb 16, 2023, 5:15 AM

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time to go hit some dummies then

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if youre also hitting dummies to test for dps etc, make sure you switch your details to record dynamic overall

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because when you vanish, your current fight data will reset

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