#arth - Log Review

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gritty mapleBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

dull dagger
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Was one of my first times playing sub, let alone on raz

desert night
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oh wow, and you start with a mythic log haha

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oh wow, you did go with the riskier build

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shadowstep is quite a bit easier to play than vanish-strike

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2 things i need to mention gear wise

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you probably came from outlaw, but using a slow offhand is not great.
You get less sht procs (energy/cp), so it would have been better to craft a 408 dagger probably even

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you have a lot of vers, what is rly good on outlaw.
Subtlety esp. in aoe will likely go a bit more heavy into mastery

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i will go a bit more into some rotational details, i hope you don't mind this

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grieftorch is a "special case" item, it is a 2 sec channel but can be casted off gcd

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this means you did lose a global here

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you can press trinket use close to the same time as shadowstrike, this ends up in you only losing 1 gcd instead of 2 for torch

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tthis is more in general, not rly a mistake

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but using dance during a gcd makes it easy to lose one ability cast, so is usually not advised

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if you want to maximize output (and don't need both vanish charges
you can vanish-strike after secret in shadow dance

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your 2nd dance cycle is perfectly fine

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you started on 4 cp gb-evi to preserve premed

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you did however shift secret to a later point in dance for no reason

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using secret as 2nd finisher gvies you more uptime of DM stacks, so should be prefered

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rupture here also got late refreshed, it should have been before dance

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this probably needs a bit of explenation

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basically, this is because of finality

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while rupture probably was slightly out of pandemic

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this is a special case for finality

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your first rupture was at 6, so finality rupture would run till 36 (what is in the middle of your dance window)

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rupture should have been at ~10-12 sec left at the point i moved to

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~10 sec would be the 7 cp mark for rupture (pancemic)
~8 sec would be the 6 cp mark

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but given that you had finality, you would ignore it and apply rupture before that

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this gives you also additional benefits

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basically rupture ticks would be higher during DM and you would not need to refresh rupture during symbols

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also you would not waste the finality:rupture buff, that in your case run out

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your 3rd dance window has a small optimization

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you ended up on 4 cp after strike-evi-strike

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with 4 or 5 cp at this point, it is stronger to use gloomblade before secret

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also one thing about your thistle tea use

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tea has 3 stacks initially and 1 minute recharge

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your first use was at 8 sec in the fight

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Tea use is a bit tricky, i hope this helps a bit:

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basically the orange expression would have applied if you did not end up with low energy before

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and you would have use dit in your 3rd dance

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one thing too, you have rly long downtimes

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i am not sure the fight does force this on the player, might be something to use vanish-strike or step to get lower downtime

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i am not sure this tea use was for energy, it seems like it would have been better to either use with dance

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the next dance window is not great executed

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dance + strike puts you on 5-6 cp

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another strike does heavily overcap

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so it should have been strike-evi-strike

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and go from there

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either gloomblade for an additional cp if on 4 or 5

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or secret if on 6+

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your first vanish use was 2 min into the fight

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this means you did basically waste one entire vanish

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also, to mention this

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torch has a cooldown of 2 minutes, so probably would have fit in here before using dance

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the dance window has similar problems as the other ones before

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same here

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but you dropped a gcd

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i assume this is on the adds

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i personally found it more comfortable to start with st and use cooldowns once adds are up

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so you can dance-strike-bp-storm-secret-...

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looking at other logs on the fight, just to re-iterate this

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your downtime is insane, you rly need to make sure you get higher uptime in p1 on the boss

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the above is up to you tho, if you strike-evi-strike you could wave in a gb/storm before secret

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torch here is used during dance

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i would use it outside

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also about your tea use, you would want it to be aligned with dance

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I also feel like i start to iterate over similar mistakes.
I already went into some details and hope this helps.
Would start at this point to ask you if there are questions
The rotation stays similar in later phases, one thing to be careful about is to handle cooldowns well for shields that could be important

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^ @dull dagger, hope this helps

dull dagger
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Thank you so much, we are clearing again tonight so I’m sure I’ll have more questions, I’m currently at work so I will have to wait until after to ask.

desert night
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all fine, no hurry

dull dagger
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I'm seeing some logs where they macro their tea to their dance, is that a reasonable thing to do? i oknow that breaks the inital rule of only using them in st when youre low on energy

desert night
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it is not

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this is the use case

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dull dagger
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Thanks man