#Infekma - Log Review
strong flame
radiant lagoon
ah nice
forgot discord threads are a thing
yeah in short, relatively new rogue player, feel like there's some key areas I'm lacking on, been doing some log analysis but obviously my scope and perspective on things is relatively limited.
I think I'm generally positioning bad with BF (so not always cleaving all targets), sometimes I focus starve at terrible points, despite what I believe to be correct BR usage, not sure what else but haven't been able to identify but I have quite high gear and should be able to perform much better
I did some log comparisons and I did seem to have unusually high usage of Despatch, but haven't done enough log side-by-side comparisons to know conclusive if this is true or not
I believe WoWhead/Discord states that you should use BtE off cooldown, but 4p seems to make Despatch more desirable then BtE?
but I suppose 4P isn't going to always be up for every single Despatch, but dmg seems higher on average then BtE unless I'm missing something proc based that BtE grants
🙂
violet fossil
there are 3 huge errors i see
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i keep seeing you spend combo points anywhere between 2 and 5cp, should only ever spend cp when at 6 or 7cp
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after you press between the eyes, pistol shot starts glowing on your bar because of greenskins. and then you press it -- this is wrong, you should only be pressing pistol shot when fan the hammer is active. it's common issue that this glow perhaps tricks people into think FTH is active when it is not
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you are pressing sinister strike while fan the hammer is active, a lot. all the time. this build should never do that -- this build wants to consume fan the hammer immediately as long as the ambush proc isnt active and you are below 6cp. fan the hammer is way too important to keep proccing ambush. you may be thinking you need to press SS to conserve combo points and use pistol shot later. nope, unless you hit 6cp, you can pistol shot
from the first pack it is clear you are probably sitting on shadow dance, you hit sinister strike a bunch of times because you didnt have procs. that means it was time to shadow dance
you should never press sinister strike unless you have no ambush proc, no fan the hammer, no vanish, no dance, no nothing
radiant lagoon
ah ok, so if I understand, regarding 2. specifically, is the idea that the greenskin proc, buffs FtH?
radiant lagoon
from the first pack it is clear you are probably sitting on shadow dance, you hi...
good point, yeah I often do focus starve when I use to many sinister strikes now that I think about it
violet fossil
greenskins and quick draw (the talent FTH is firing 3 times) do stack together for the first shot. but the issue is the singular pistol shot is a really shit global
radiant lagoon
point taken yea
I'll have to pay more attention to spending at low cp, didn't realise I was doing it that frequently
violet fossil
btw, frozen devotion, buzzing rune, glacial fury are all inferior consumables compared to sophic devotion, primal whetstone, and tepid flask
radiant lagoon
ah right ok
to summarise:
- spending to often on low CP
- getting baited to often by greenskin, wasting precious globals, better to only consume it on the next FtH proc
- sinister striking way to often, resulting to focus starve, while holding FtH procs
violet fossil
yes, rotationally that is likely the 3 big things
radiant lagoon
I think my mistake here is that, what I had initially in mind is that, if FtH proc gives me capped CP, then if I'm currently at 1-5cp I may as well spend and then use the FtH for next spender after, this seems to be incorrect from what you've pointed out?
violet fossil
i cannot detect things like blade flurry positioning, and focusing the target marked by between the eyes from logs very well
violet fossil
I think my mistake here is that, what I had initially in mind is that, if FtH pr...
yes, that is wrong
radiant lagoon
noted
violet fossil
this build cares about global efficiency far more than combo point efficiency
radiant lagoon
gotcha, I didn't know, I was hyper focused on CP effiency, in other words every time a proc would overcap, I would spend
violet fossil
it really just wants to ambush, and fan the hammer to proc ambush, as much as it can, while spending on 6cp
radiant lagoon
I see, so even if I'm sitting at 5cp I should also ambush proc?
use my ambush proc*
violet fossil
yes. well currently it is not possible to be at 5cp with an ambush proc without making an error
violet fossil
but on the patch tuesday, that will happen pretty often, and you will be pressing ambush at 5cp
radiant lagoon
yeah, I read that FtH is 4cp instead of 6cp in next patch?
violet fossil
yep
radiant lagoon
alright, well thanks for your input, I think I understand much better now what I've done wrong, much appreciated
ow one last thing
should I be using more BtE?
to fish for greenskin procs?
I only use BtE if its about to fall off, otherwise I Despatch
for 2p
violet fossil
that is wrong, you should BtE on cooldown at the right cp
radiant lagoon
whats the reasoning for that? Despatch grants 2p bonus and it does more damage?
I also don't have the BtE talent nodes
violet fossil
the simple answer is that all of our rotation is evaluated in SimC here, and it was determined to be better if you are talented into Greenskins
radiant lagoon
alright, no worries, I will use BtE off cooldown then 🙂
thanks for the input, much appreciated!
not sure how I close the thread thought