#Exy - Log Review
floral crystal
feral grove
Gonna look at the terros log since that's got the least amount of other stuff going on
but right out of the gate, your rutpure uptime is not great
feral grove
you don't need to do that
as long as you are within a pandemic window you can refresh your rupture when either you're at max-1 cp or on a charged cp
but any downtime is generally bad
and since you aren't running exsanguinate, you don't need to worry about overwriting a buffed rupture or anything
floral crystal
Pandemic?
feral grove
!pandemic
eternal owlBOT
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
floral crystal
Nice
sudden valve
You do the same for Garrote too
floral crystal
Was going to ask that too
So prob is one of the fails i have
i always wait to them to runout
feral grove
so instead of a 32 second rupture, you'll get a 32 second + x seconds, where x is however long was left on the old one. the limit on the extended dot is 30% of the duration though, so don't just like... rupture, er, rupture or something like that
if you use either whispyr or ceverions plater profiles, they both light up when you're in a pandemic timing window
sudden valve
You only let empowered bleeds run out, like of exsanguinate or Improved Garrote from Stealth
feral grove
yeah, they aren't running exsang atm so only improved garrote is the one you'd let run out
floral crystal
yh i do mostly that
when a garrote powered runs out i do garrote etc
but i didn't reapply fast
feral grove
speaking of:
In your opener you should be vanishing earlier. You can pandemic the improved garrote with another improved garrote (like the one you get from vanishing), and that will make your deathmark and vanish line up better at the 2:12 mark rather than the 2:40 mark
floral crystal
hm+
feral grove
this deathmark comes out super late, and it means you don't get another one later on in the fight
feral grove
your opener should be imp gar, SbS, SnD, ER, Rupture, DM rather than hitting imp gar twice before DM. that will let you fall into pandemic window on your imp garrote during DM
right now your opener gets you ~2 seconds of extra imp garrote... but makes your vanish desync from your DM by ~20 seconds, which is not good.
sudden valve
So at like 6-9s of the garrote do i reapply?
At 18 x 0.3 = 5.4 seconds for Garrote
feral grove
the opener isn't just about getting as much damage per energy as possible, its also about getting your cds out as efficiently as possible so that you don't mess yourself up later
you also don't want to overlap shiv
it does NOT pandemic. so casting shiv again within 8 seconds of your first shiv doesn't do anything
well... it resets the duration, but you're getting 12 seconds of shiv here instead of 16
this is the logic for the opener on the build you're using. the second shiv is going to fall somewhere after the vanish-garrote when the first shiv wears off
feral grove
dont do that in the opener
you're going to get your pandemic on garrote later anyways
the longer you delay your vanish-garrote the longer you delay your second DM
you should also try and make sure that your rupture is refreshed before going into your DM windows.
ideally your rupture gets refreshed, you do your vanish-garrote, and then hit DM
that way all of your CPs can go to envenoms during DM rather than to upkeep
feral grove
don't worry about playing around ER
ER is just a bonus. its not doing more damage on your bleeds
if you cast rupture at 1CP or at 7CP its doing the same amount of dps
floral crystal
hm
celest perch
Wow this is really helpful info, thanks everyone! 😃
feral grove
if you were trying to min-max to an absurd level, you'd get your ER on envenom for every cast during your DM window... but it just doesn't line up like that always so don't worrya bout it
floral crystal
so that's why i usually do it
feral grove
yes. the duration goes up, but the damage per second doesnt, and neither does the damage per combo point
DM is also short enough that you don't need an ER rupture right before it to have rupture last the entire time
if you're landing a rupture at 5-6 cp right before you hit vanish/garrote/DM, its going to be fine
floral crystal
So for opening garrote-spike slice and dice
feral grove
if it happens to be from ER, cool
floral crystal
then mutilate garrote and DM?
feral grove
rupture, not garrote
floral crystal
yh srry
feral grove
but yes
feral grove
all good. the logs aren't in english so I'm assuming you're having to do the groundwork on translating
floral crystal
imma have to practice it tho
feral grove
you won't reapply the rupture until after DM ideally. and then any time that your rupture is within pandemic window you're good to go. if there's 5 or less seconds you'll be fine
and for garrote, same logic. when you see garrote getting down to 6 seconds you should get ready to vanish-garrote again. that should make your DM and vanish windows line up a bit better for your second DM
floral crystal
and i should only cast 1 garrote right?
feral grove
for the opener yes
when you do your vanish-garrote on the non-opener DM's you can go ahead and double garrote
floral crystal
!pandemic
eternal owlBOT
Pandemic takes up to 30% of the duration of a applied dot/buff and adds it to your new applied one. The duration depends on the new instance.
Example: Garrote (18 sec) can be extended by up to 5.4 seconds from an existing instance.
Note: Pandemic applies to most but not all debuffs/buffs
floral crystal
When should i always pandemic like 6s garrote and 10s rupt?
feral grove
rupture's a bit fluid, but that should be fine
feral grove
better to lose a tick from over-maintaining than to lose a bunch from mucking it up
so overall:
- keep your bleeds up; practice playing with pandemic windows for maintenance to get as close to 100% as you can
- practice your shiv so that you don't overwrite. You also dont pool shivs with the build you are running.
- do your rupture maintenance before DM, so that you're not burning CP inside DM