#Shyft - Log Review

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onyx grailBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

radiant fossil
errant finch
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Sorry what’s the issue with your envenom?

radiant fossil
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When I compare my log on Terros to other rogues my ilvl, I'm like 4 - 8k less DPS on the envenom

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I'm thinking that's why my parses are subpar?

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Or is there anything else that you can see? Not sure what I'm doing wrong

errant finch
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You don’t have a warrior buff in that log

radiant fossil
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Ya our warrior was not at raid. Our other melee DPS seem to be doing just fine though?

errant finch
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Ya you are too

radiant fossil
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Ok :/ so it's just missing raid buffs?

errant finch
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You had like 30% crit rate on envenom and you’re missing a warrior dunno

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Seems rough to me

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No windfury either

radiant fossil
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Ya I have like 38% crit in raid and never seem to get that on the logs

errant finch
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I mean it’s hard when you’re missing so much in terms of raid buffs

radiant fossil
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Ya. Just makes me sad to see me sitting at 70s and our other melee dps can still parse 95+

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Makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong

errant finch
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I’m on mobile atm so I didn’t look too close

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But yeh I mean you’re the second best windfury target in the game, it’s like 4k dps

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It’s hard to parse on Assassination this patch honestly

radiant fossil
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Ya it's been hard. But thank you for your help

floral moat
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shiv cpm 1.8

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could be higher

radiant fossil
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I'm running 1 shiv

floral moat
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shiv is 25s cd so slamming it on cd guarantees 2 cpm

errant finch
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Yep

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Math checks out

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Log reviewing on phone is aids

floral moat
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on my last terros kill for example my shiv cpm is 2.4

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there’s a chance you’re missing out on real casts there

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which would over time lower your envenom average

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yeah

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(180+48) / 25

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9.12

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but you cast shiv only 7 times

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you missed out on 2 full casts not sending it on cd

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a small optimization

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in your opener you send an envenom before your first shiv

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shiv is only a 1 combo point generator and at the end of your opener you should be at 5 combo points max

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we don’t play around seal fate so you should just slam shiv as long as you’re under 6 combo points

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you lose a free 6cp shiv envenom off of that

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your second exsang is really late and you don’t refresh rupture going into it

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you lost a lot of damage on that

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echoing reprimand and exsang line up so you should try to dump cp the global before echoing so that you can put up a 7cp rupture

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that’s all the stuff that’s easy for me to find on mobile

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you refresh your rupture in shiv a lot which is fine and what the sim would do but there’s ways you can keep dot uptime while also getting more envenoms out in shiv

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without wasting pandemic

floral moat
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you rupture -> sbs -> echoing

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with lucky seal fate procs this no longer guarantees you a 7cp rupture for exsang

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which is why i presume you slammed an envenom

radiant fossil
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Okay wow that gives me alot to work on.

So more shiv casts, and try to maximize envenom casts during shiv.

And work on getting 7CP ruptures out before exsanguinate

The opener in the FAQ says to send an envenom before the first shiv though?

floral moat
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that’s with kingsbane

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because you don’t want to kingsbane without the envenom buff

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and because kingsbane generates combo points too ofc

radiant fossil
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Okay that makes sense. Thanks so much. I still need more practice with Exsang as I played poison DTB for a while but now I'm forced to play exsang since it gives me like 1500 more DPS

floral moat
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for sure

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it’s a strange button

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i find i learn best by finding ways to explain the raw mechanics behind casts

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so maybe something that helped me that will help you is recognizing that the purpose of exsang is to generate ticks over the length of a fight

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you can just keep rupture up 100% and then there are a finite amount of ticks you can have based on haste and fight length

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exsang condenses them and allows us to create more ticks in a fight

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so then it makes sense that sending the highest cp rupture would condense the most ticks and thus create the most ticks over the course of a fight

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and then ofc the natural byproduct of this is that exsang becomes a burst cd

radiant fossil
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so for everytime i cast exsang, i want to puzzlebox -> vanish -> garrote x2 -> ER -> Rupture -> Exsang -> DM

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would that be right?

floral moat
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finish before er if you have 5-6 co

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cp

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if you’re going to cap cp

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uhh

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i actually don’t know off the top of my head what it looks like exactly on second exsang

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but that seems correct

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i’m not sure if rupture -> er -> rup is worth it

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you’d have to ask whispyr

radiant fossil
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you mean on second exsang?

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cuz opener exsang it's always rupture > er > rupture

floral moat
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yeah on third exsang*

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i don’t know

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so i’m not comfy being like yeah exactly do that

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you could probably check his mythic terros log

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if he holds exsang for deathmark at 4 mins it’ll show you how he does it

radiant fossil
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@pale zephyr pls halp

pale zephyr
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Yep! Like I said I’ll do it after rounds, just a couple more patients! Thank you for pinging homie WideGeorgeHappy

radiant fossil
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Thank you Dr. Quake

pale zephyr
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So I had a fight timer that was about 30s off from yours. Trying to figure out why I have 15 more casts of envenom and you have 2 more casts of rupture monkaScheme

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You’re also going to be hard pressed to parse without any raid buff as mentioned earlier

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That’s a with Vs without.

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But yeah still delving the envenom issue

radiant fossil
pale zephyr
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2:49 kill

radiant fossil
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And his kill time is 60 seconds less than mine but he only has 2 casts of envenom less than me! I have no idea how that's the case.

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44 vs 46

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:S:S:S:S:S

pale zephyr
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Looks like less garrote and rupture

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Too

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Are you over correcting that?

radiant fossil
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I don't think so? I'm refreshing garrote/rupture during pandemic according to Luxthos' WA

floral moat
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he has similar garrote apm as you accounting for the fact that cpm gets slightly inflated with kill times right near casts

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i can’t look on mobile but this log also has a LOT of (muti -> muti -> envenom)

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so id be willing to bet his seal fate rng is insane

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79 2:49 vs 85 3:48

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over a one minute longer time period you only procced 6 more combo points from seal fate than the person you’re comparing to

pale zephyr
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Shyft also has 5 more rupture casts in a minute

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Which was more my concern

radiant fossil
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I think that has something to do with me running Exsang and the other guy is running poison DTB?

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Trying to get a big rupture count before hitting exsang x2? Maybe messing that up once or twice?

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But the seal fate proc makes some sense

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I almost wanna give up the 1.8% DPS and go back to poison DTB at this point lol

pale zephyr
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Could be that true