#Dill - Log Review

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gloomy flareBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

exotic valley
slate shale
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dont sync symbols and dance

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you're losing casts of dance doing that

exotic valley
slate shale
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you also want to delay the sec tec in your dance to the 2nd finisher, for DM stacks

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slate shale
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its better to just send both on cd as you get them

jolly pollen
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Hard to read it on my phone but what bullfango said. Pretty much just send stuff on cd

slate shale
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the actual dances could also use some refining

jolly pollen
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The correct dance rotation is in the sub faq

slate shale
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^

exotic valley
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Is there a priority of abilities I should be using in each cooldown window for symbols and dance?

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Or are they more of just buffs to add to the already determined rotation

slate shale
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Every dance window should look pretty similar for the first half it

exotic valley
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Love to hear that lol

slate shale
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with TFD

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Dance + GB at low CP -> evis->shadow strike->[CB if its up]+SecTec->[strike evis]

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finish at 5 generally means strike->evis->strike->evis to finish up

jolly pollen
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Also small optimization, using vanish after your sectec for shadow strike is good. Gives it 25% more damage and premed combo points buff

exotic valley
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Okay so beginning of dance window always looks the same and then you just spam strike and evis to finish it out

jolly pollen
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Yep

slate shale
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more or less yeah

exotic valley
slate shale
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This window for example

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exotic valley
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But I felt as though that was wrong

slate shale
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you strike twice before both evis and are losing a lot of cp for it

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in dance you finish on 5+

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out of it you finish on 6+

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Addressing that i think will also address the wasted CP issue you have

exotic valley
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Is it just rng how many cb I get from strike or am I doing something wrong because I swear I’ll get like 3 cb from a strike sometimes and then have to strike again to get an evis off

slate shale
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Seal fate will get you an extra

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and premed will net you 2

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But ss itself gens 2, and with improved ambush itw ill always gen 3

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so seal fate can make it gen 4

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and then you will generally get the 5th from your shadow techniques

jolly pollen
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+1 for shadow blades if it's up. There's also weapon master procs

slate shale
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^

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so yeah theres a lot of rng with it but also the only scenario you're sad is when you get 3, and techniques bumps it to 4

exotic valley
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So I should be evis after only 1 strike no matter what? No matter how many cbs I have?

slate shale
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I believe you're supposed to GB there before evis but i could be wrong and personally i just strike or evis again and take the L

jolly pollen
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And yeah gloomblade is supposed to be used after dance if you have the first dance talented, or after your first evis>Shadow strike without the first dance

slate shale
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honestly the rest looks pretty good

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Rupture uptime is good, Snd uptime is good

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i think the dance logic is just mudering your parse

exotic valley
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Interesting. My damage is def much lower than I sim as well. You think that small fix would improve?

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Or maybe it’s a large fix. Not sure

slate shale
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that should be closer to 10

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and in all 7 of those dances

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you did them wrong lol

jolly pollen
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Pretty much all your damage is in dance so optimizing dance is a huge thing

calm lotus
exotic valley
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Okay that’s great info

calm lotus
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And yeah sub really is just doing the dance sequence right. I hit a target dummy for an hour or so until the dance was muscle memory

slate shale
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thistle tea usage could be optimized some more too

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you're using it on sec tec which isnt terrible

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in ST its generally better to sue it for where u chokeon energy

calm lotus
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Saving tea for after dance ends and you’re spamming out massive glooms and going low on energy is nice

exotic valley
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Need to attend a meeting real quick. I appreciate the help so far guys I will be back in about 30 min if y’all are still around. I will read everything is chat continues

slate shale
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like here ish

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You're rupture refreshes looka little late a couple times, where you would have had a finalty buff but refresh late and dont get it

exotic valley
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One simply put thing I feel like I’ve learned here is to stop trying to stack all my buffs like symbols, dance, tea etc and just start sending shit on cooldown and learn which rotation needs to be used based on what is active in the moment. So basically stop waiting to use cooldowns with others

jolly pollen
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Yeah pretty much

exotic valley
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I have cold blood macrod to sec tec, is that a bad move?

calm lotus
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Nope

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Cold blood shouldn’t be used on anything else so having it glued to sec tec is good

jolly pollen
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It should be macroed. Just make sure that if it's in your main bar, both the stealth bar and out of stealth bar have the macro

exotic valley
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Great. Seems like I’m not too far off then. Biggest problems seems to be just not sending dance enough, and then a small rotational problem within my dance window?

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Would y’all agree?

slate shale
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Or I guess every odd sec tech so the first third fifth etc

slate shale
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Small optimizations in tea and rupture refreshes are there

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I didn't check consumable usage but thatsbthere

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Small optimizations in vanish usage exist too

exotic valley
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And we said make sure to have a vanish charge for after sec tec in opener?

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Outside of that, where am I using vanish optimally?

jolly pollen
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Can't check other vanishes ATM but you use both vanishes after sectec in opener

exotic valley
jolly pollen
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Unless you wanna hold a vanish for a mechanic in a dungeon

exotic valley
jolly pollen
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Yeah

slate shale
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I'm going to chalk that up to WFT owning

exotic valley
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Wft?

slate shale
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wind fury totem

exotic valley
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Oh gotcha okay

slate shale
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you can send the first charge w/ sec tec on the opener still, btw

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better to have it on cd

exotic valley
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Okay so a concise list to work on: send cds as soon as they come up, learn the rotation needed for my dance windows, use tea only when low energy, save vanish for after sec tec, anything else?

slate shale
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Like i mentioned you refresh rupture a little late for the finality buff a couple of times

exotic valley
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I’m not familiar with the finality buff I don’t think

slate shale
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Rupture/Evis/BP empower your next use of that same finisher by 30%

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so every other finish does more damage

exotic valley
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So I probably always want finality on rupture then I’d assume?

slate shale
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to be honest you can generally ignore it and just refresh rupture in pandemic window

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but sometimes you reffresh it late and just mis the buff entirely which is not something you'd like

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for instance your first rupture is at 2s

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and your second is 34s

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so your first minute of rupture is missing an effective 15% damage

exotic valley
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Because I refreshed it too soon with 34s left?

slate shale
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too late

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at the 34s mark

exotic valley
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Oh gotcha

slate shale
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your first rupture prolly lasted 32s and cast at the 2s mark

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but the window of opprotunity to consume the finality buff only lasts 30s

exotic valley
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Oh okay so make sure to refresh rupture every 28-29 seconds at the least

slate shale
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like i said

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you can probably just refresh in the pandemic window and not care