#Shiphtur - Log Review

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soft summitBOT
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blazing zephyr
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which fight do you want to look at

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!neck

rigid zephyr
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Guessing rasz since the rest of the fights are decent logs

blazing zephyr
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well raz is simple

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no BP = no parse

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it's also about holding stuff like trinket for damage amp

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in p2

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what happened in this opener here

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swap the storm and Gb

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GB is more damage in dance

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and you get the same effect of guaranteeing FW

sand carbon
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that opener looks fine if he didnt get a crit with first GB and wanted FW you can shuriken storm. only thing id change is hold whetstone till dance for the damage amp

blazing zephyr
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don't use vanish outside of dance

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no

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you want to swap GB and storm

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whetstone isn't affected by dance's damage amp

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the damage amp is a whitelist

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you also used tea there

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which gained you basically no energy

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only use tea outside of opener for energy

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in single target

modest light
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i usually gloom inttead of shruiken i dont remember shruikening on opener there

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maybe bugged or something

blazing zephyr
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you can swap the GB and shuriken

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that's the 0.5% gain over 5mins I was talking about earlier

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because it guarantees FW for dance

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the GB is not guaranteed

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it's the only time you sstorm in ST

modest light
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ok

blazing zephyr
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vanish outside dance again

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rupture in dance

modest light
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that might of been during add phase

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the vanish

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to gap close

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is that bad

blazing zephyr
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this is terros

modest light
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oh

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shit

blazing zephyr
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so I don't think there is an add phase

modest light
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i was thinking of raz

blazing zephyr
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I'm looking at one where you played better

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raz is a lost cause without bp

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and proper usage of cd's on p2

modest light
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can u do raz

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cause i changed opener a bit

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cause i got torchy for it

blazing zephyr
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some gains

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opener was good

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probably wasted CP just looking at that

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and here

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if you had just waited for that dance instead of GB

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the gap between the SS and Sectech

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likle would not have happened

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try and still SS

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it gives SnD duration

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and basically fills CP with premed

modest light
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what you mean by wait for the dance

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i was just told to juse that shit off cd

blazing zephyr
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yes

modest light
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do i wait like the extra 2 seconds to line up with

blazing zephyr
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but you GB > dance > GB

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when you could've got rid of the first GB

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because the GB pushed you just below the energy needed to use the finisher in a global

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plus with TfD it overcaps CP

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would've been more damage to use your trinkets like

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whetstone start of p2

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grief first shield

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whetstone 2nd shield

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grief third shield

modest light
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ok

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and also to vanish during dance

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am i just always doing it right after ST then

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like how i did it in opener?

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or spacing it out

blazing zephyr
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Yeah

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it's such a minor dps increase

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But

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If you feel you can gain value from using SS to TP

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then save a charge

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vanish isn't really anything special for sub

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the teas for basically zero energy

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it's a big gain if you have BP in those intermissions

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when u send on cd a little too hard Sadge

modest light
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ok so i should stop teaing for

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mastery buff

blazing zephyr
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you only use it for mastery buff in aoe

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in single target it's energy only

modest light
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ok

blazing zephyr
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like here

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because you sent that tea just after 9 mins

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you didn't have it for the end of the fight

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so your damage just spluttered out

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it would've been better there anyway for that final dance

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cos that final dance was cb boosted and boss was dyinh

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you're fine at using sod on cd from what I can see

modest light
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ok

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also so just to clarify

blazing zephyr
modest light
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I AM using shuriken storm on opener

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instead of GB

blazing zephyr
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you can go SS > sstorm > rupture < dance + Gb

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do not SS > GB > rupture > dance > Storm

modest light
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i think i usually do

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SS > Rupture > torch

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into opner

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thats what other rogues i was looking at did anyway so wasnt sure

blazing zephyr
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you can do that

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your whole opener had no FW cos of it

modest light
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oh

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so i should ss > storm > rupture > torch

blazing zephyr
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or just torch after dance

modest light
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its awk cause im also using whetstone

zinc ibex
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i'd just torch right away before pressing rupture. cause when you delay dance you are potentially syncing rupture so it falls off as you want to enter dance

blazing zephyr
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yeah can SS > torch

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can torch after dance

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but you don't want to torch after you've applied FW

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cos it'll fall off

zinc ibex
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mhm

modest light
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ic... so ss > torch > shruiken > rupture

blazing zephyr
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yeah

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the p2 trinket usage will pump up the numbers too

modest light
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gotcha

blazing zephyr
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the difference between unboosted and boosted

modest light
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also im about to do mythic raid is erranog a BP fight

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boosted by FW?

blazing zephyr
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no

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the buff

modest light
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OH

blazing zephyr
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for standing with same mark

modest light
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yes

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right right

blazing zephyr
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that shit CRANKS for trinkets

drowsy kiln
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if you have boomkins i would just not run bp on erranog lmao

blazing zephyr
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or warlocks

drowsy kiln
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ye that too

blazing zephyr
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they are fucking fiends

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Just run single target and focus boss

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with some funnel

drowsy kiln
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tbh most of the adds ust gets immediately blown up by now

blazing zephyr
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go for the boss damage cope parse

zinc ibex
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i'd go full ST on Egg Nog

blazing zephyr
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you can delay dance a little to line up with adds

zinc ibex
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because you really want the burst for walls

blazing zephyr
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but if they disappear

modest light
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right on

blazing zephyr
zinc ibex
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your DHs will kill adds for you

modest light
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bro this sim u did on me

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did the vers do THAT mcuh or is it because of thise 444 lariat

blazing zephyr
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it was armory sim

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it's changing what your lariat procs

halcyon sparrow
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Full ST on eranog is fine enough yeah

blazing zephyr
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currently you proc earth

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the gem change gives you more of a stat you lack I suspect

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AND procs fire with lariat

halcyon sparrow
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The adds die extremely fast so if you wanna yoink some add damage make sure you line up sectec

blazing zephyr
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if you don't wanna cheese dps just send and go full boss dam

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you can get one dance on the first intermission wall

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then another dance on the next

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you can also shadowstep them

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so you can walk forwards instead of backwards

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also remember if ur not running this talent you don't sstorm in st ever

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in case u take double step instead of it

modest light
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yeah i take that

blazing zephyr
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just in case ur without it cos 2x step has value prayge

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also for gems

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even though sim says vers crit

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I recommend mastery heavy + crit

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they are 0.1% behind in ST

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but will be far better for aoe

drowsy kiln
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wait rly

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interesting

blazing zephyr
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both proc fire buff

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mastery + crit better in aoe than vers + crit

drowsy kiln
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ive just seen everyone go heavy crit + mastery

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so i made that

blazing zephyr
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Let's see what the sim gods say for my gear

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cos the fire proc is just generically better for st and aoe

drowsy kiln
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i did contemplate not even making agi + crit gem and going agi + mastery for the lariat

blazing zephyr
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and good in aoe

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whereas the mastery proc is worse than crit in st for sure

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but crit is still insane for aoe either way

drowsy kiln
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i know i simmed it as well lemme re sim

blazing zephyr
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procs frost buff HUH

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anyway we do a lil hyjacking

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if u need anything else @modest light just @ here

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can @ fuu (when he's awake)

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push

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stealthi