#GWYN - Log Review

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remote belfryBOT
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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

ancient dock
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@hollow wasp I’ll do my best to get to it asap but I know you’re better than this and ily for doing the majority of these

cloud fjord
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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DhAJgL2Z8QW9qN4H

I switched between Assassination and Subtlety here. Accepting comments on both because I am apparently really terrible at both. 🥲

My main used to be a Frost Mage. I thought I knew what I was doing and that I had my rotation down but I'm obviously missing one thing, or several things.

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I'm Gwynlais in these logs.

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On Diurnia, I was on egg cracking duty. Idk if that needs to be taken into account but just fyi

hollow wasp
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I’ll be on this in an hour or so, sorry doing rounds rn

cloud fjord
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Oh gosh no rush at all and I super appreciate your help! I'm shocked at my damage so I'm sure you'll find some glaring mistakes after glancing at it later. Looking forward to seeing your thoughts but I'm totally chill on the timeline!

analog skiff
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Im no pro but just some things im seeing by looking at it. On erenog normal you went about a whole 30 seconds without garotte on the boss at all

hollow wasp
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Egg cracking duty is kind of weird ngl but I have a major 🔑 alert

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The waste portion (outside of seal fate, don’t play around it) should be 0. That’s a lot of wasted cp

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You’re garrote uptime should also be close to 95x and on eranog it was about 65. That’s not great either

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Those are two very big areas i’d improved on (wasted CP + bleed uptime) and I’d love to see another lot after this quick tutorial to dive deeper if there are more issues

mild oasis
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Sorry to intrude but another thing I noticed its your envenom buff uptime specially with 2p and that you recasted SnD several times

cloud fjord
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So this table is saying that over the course of the fight(s), I used Mutilate when I shouldn't have because it caused me to overcap on combo points basically?

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(And used other combo pt generating abilities when I already had combo pts?)

cloud fjord
mild oasis
analog skiff
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You should only use a finisher if you are MAX CP -1 so if you have 6 CPs only cast Envenom on 5 or 6 UNLESS you have echoing reprimand

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then you can cast on those empoered combo points 2/3/4

mild oasis
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a lot of those extra CP that were wasted would have been envenoms

cloud fjord
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Yeah I hated Echoing Reprimand on Sub because auto-attacks can push you out of the animacharged points window (bc auto-attacks can generate combo points on Sub), but it seems like that's not a thing with Assassination.

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So I should get to using that properly

analog skiff
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yes realistically you took defensive nodes in your tree VS ER

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so your trading dmg for surviveability

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alot of it is just practicing and learning your prioritys, your DMG profile just is a little everywhere, once you fix garotte and start envenoming properly it would drastically make some changes. But as DTB your poisons should be number 1 dmg

this is my dmg profile on heroic grimtotem as DTB, now there will be differences but in generaly your mutiliate shouldnt be #1 in dmg

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as you start using envenom properly it will increase your amplifying dmg

cloud fjord
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Gotcha, that makes a lot of sense

cloud fjord
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All these tips are great though so ty everyone for your time. Much appreciated

analog skiff
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it can be any melee task realistically

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i did egg cracking in my group because my raid lead knows i can do a mechanic and pump out dps

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but we had a warrior do it the first time with our tank

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In your raid it might have been opposite no offense, having you do the eggs because your parsing wasnt the greatest. But if you practice its best for you not to and just focus boss because our ST is so strong

cloud fjord
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Haha I’m usually one of the mechanics people because I’m good at DPS while doing mechanics on my frost mage, so I think it’s a holdover from that. But yeah I actually thought that assassination would be better for doing mechanics bc I can stack bleeds and poisons and run off for a minute while still doing damage

analog skiff
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i mean in a way not wrong

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but youre a poison build

cloud fjord
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I do think that’ll be the case as I practice more

analog skiff
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so your dmg is coming from envenom

cloud fjord
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Is there another build that’s more bleed focused? Kingsbane?

analog skiff
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yea KB

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most DTB builds skip bloody mess

cloud fjord
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In general are DTB and KB simming pretty similarly or is DTB the winner?

analog skiff
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which is a 2pt talent that increases rupture and garotte dmg by 30%

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depending on your gear, 2pc is more poison dmg and 4 pc is more bleed. From the Sims DTB is always winning out, but KB is not bad by any means

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but realistically not stronger then DTB

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in most scenarios

cloud fjord
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Gotcha. Yeah I do just have the 2 pc rn, just got it late last night so I’ll stay DTB for now

analog skiff
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Id stick to DTB to learn the class

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its a little more fogiving and less management of CDs

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KB build generally has a few more rules to follow

cloud fjord
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Got it. Will do!

hollow wasp
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Listen it’s been a day SMH