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compact pikeBOT Dec 25, 2022, 8:55 PM

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Please post the link from WCL in this channels for others to see.

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 8:56 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/stormreaver/zukkar

I'm new to all of this. Idk what I'm doing wrong but I know that I'm doing the lowest damage in the history of wow. Any tips to improve? Right now I'm just coping and telling myself that my gear is bad.

narrow sky Dec 25, 2022, 8:58 PM

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Are you using ST on CD inside dance?

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7 casts feels a bit low

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just at first glance

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 9:01 PM

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narrow sky Are you using ST on CD inside dance?

Yeah I've recorded myself playing and I seem to wait for cold blood then use secret technique often. But I always try to use it as often as possible

narrow sky Dec 25, 2022, 9:02 PM

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you should be using it on CD

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never wait for CB

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inside of dance, i mean

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I mean, you can wait if CB is about to come

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but dont try to always pair them

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usually its a CB every 2 ST

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 9:03 PM

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Yeah I've noticed that

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I always prio ST as a finisher if it's up though.

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 9:05 PM

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At phone now, can maybe help later

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 9:07 PM

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Thanks. I really want to improve but I'm not sure how.

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:00 PM

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Your opener on Terros seems like you missed the pull there. Its important to get everything on cd asap. Double check the opener and practice it a bit too: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1035163024480276640/1051068607309824040/rotation_st_new.png

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For ST try to use Dance > gloomblade > Evis > Strike > ST

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You wanna build up your DM stacks to power up your ST\

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Same here, even worse than the one above since you dont even have the dance / DM buff at all

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Seems to happen more often than not. You use ST on cooldown but you always want to combine it with Dance

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Since their CD is pretty much in sync you can always do it

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:04 PM

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Okay as ashamed as I am to admit it I was today years old when I discovered that Shadow Dance has a 30% damage buff to all abilities

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Honest to god I was not aware of that

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:05 PM

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Also make sure you cast Symbols on cooldown and dont want to combine it with anything

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:05 PM

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viral viper Okay as ashamed as I am to admit it I was today years old when I discovered that...

Yep Dance is the biggest DPS increase now combined with DM so you need to do that to the full extend

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:05 PM

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And we use gloomblade during dance to get a DM stack?

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:05 PM

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Yep

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With First Dance you get 5CP and then you use gloomblade to get max CP > Evis > STrike and then you can ST or CB/ST

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So it all lines up perfectly

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Your symbols usage is not optimal. If you used it on cooldown you could've squeezed in 1 maybe 2 more in the whol fight

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Honestly looks like you held your shadow dance and didn't use it on cooldown

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:07 PM

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I always aim to combine symbols and dance and feel physical pain if I don't but I guess I'm in the wrong there?

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:08 PM

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Yep

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You gotta stop caring about symbols

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Just use it whenever

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Same with Dance

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But you dont have to combine symbols with anything

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In Shadowlands symbols was our main cooldown, not anymore

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:09 PM

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Idk anything about SL since I started rogue in DF

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:09 PM

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So it's always Dance + ST on cooldown together

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And symbols whenever it came up

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:09 PM

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Aight gotcha

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:10 PM

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But your main damage increase comes from optimizing your dance window since you arent doing it now

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Your slice uptime is 88% though, could use some love

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Same with rupture

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:12 PM

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I rarely refresh the two while it still has time as well

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I noticed I wait them out until refreshing, often resulting in me having 0 combo points, 30 energy and rupture just ran out.

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:12 PM

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You can refresh them before they fall off, they have a pandemic window where the remaining time gets added to the new duration

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:13 PM

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If rupture has 10 seconds left on the target and I refresh it with 7 combo points are those 10 seconds wasted?

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:13 PM

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With rupture it's about ~8 seconds

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So if you refresh at 8 seconds

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Those 8 seconds will be added to the new amount

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So lets say the new amount is 25 seceonds and you refresh at 8 seconds then the amount will be 25+8 = 33 seconds

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Same with slice and dice

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That's about ~12 seconds

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So whenever it's below that amount just refresh it

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:14 PM

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Is there a hard cap to the maximum seconds of uptime they can get?

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:14 PM

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It's 30% of the max duration

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:15 PM

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That also is new info for me. I've always waited until the last second to refresh slice & dice or rupture but I'll get that fixed now

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:16 PM

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Its not a dps loss to do that, but if you miss it and it falls off you obviously lose DPS

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So rather do it early then you can choose when to do it

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:16 PM

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That's smart you're right

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I feel like sub is the hardest spec I've played lol but I want to learn

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:17 PM

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It'll feel very fluid once you get the hang of it

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:18 PM

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I also probably shouldn't think I can master it in 3 weeks of playing it.

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:18 PM

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Things just arent very intuitive if you havent read everything abouti t

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:19 PM

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Yeah just today I learned so much by looking into it for hours

hidden fulcrum Dec 25, 2022, 10:21 PM

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Just a quick summary, keep your uptime of rupture / SnD near 99%. Remember / practice your Dance rotation with ST in it and use it on cooldown and use symbols on cooldown as well but you dont have to combine it with anything

viral viper Dec 25, 2022, 10:23 PM

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Got it. Thank you so much!

That target dummy is gonna get it tonight 😈

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