Entaronox log

[stuck stream]

will take a look later, or if someone want to do it before me, @wraith pewter maybe?

[surreal ferry]

Hey mates

Thanls alot

Ill be honest im new to rogue i was maining warlock most of expansion and demon hunter

I know fights since i did all hc runs and mythic ones during these 2 years

But now i jumped in as rogue and look at that

I suck

[wraith pewter]

All good we all start from somewhere

1st thing im noticing is your opener is missing Vanish and is a bit out of order, actually you seem to be forgetting vanish exists, Vanish is important for your CTO procs, id also reccomened trying to get CTO at 278 ilvl as that gets you 100% chance to proc it from stealth

Any non-Dust opener will tend to look like (RtB + MfD + SnD in Stealth if possible) > Ambush > ADR > BF+BR if aoe > Vanish > Ambush > Ghostly Strike or Echoing Reprimand or Sepsis > SS if needed > Flagellation if Venthyr > BtE > build to SnD if needed So for our build it would be Prepull Stealth then at 1sec to pull we press RTB then its Ambush > ADR > Ambush > Fill up CP > Flag > BTE

you also have a really large gap in SnD uptime here

[surreal ferry]

So from stealth,ambush,adrush,vanish ambush again

[wraith pewter]

yeah

[surreal ferry]

And then when vanish is back goes vanish again and then ambush again

[wraith pewter]

actually no

We fill to full combo points

then Vanish Dispatch

after opener

[surreal ferry]

Why vanish dispatc?

[wraith pewter]

theres a few reasons, 1: it sims better (lol) 2: you will be pressing SS more 3: its less energy than ambush

[surreal ferry]

Ah makes sense

[wraith pewter]

theres a few other reasons potentially under the hood

but mainly its cuz it sims better

[surreal ferry]

So anywhere in fight

When vanish is back

Build to 6 ptns,vanish

Dispatch

[wraith pewter]

5 or 6 depending on buffs but yes

[surreal ferry]

Next part,betwen the eyes

I shot it and while buff is on target

I dont use it anymore right

[wraith pewter]

You can do that yes, but i wouldnt worry too much about that currently, it might not even be that much of a gain without a max ilvl CTO conduit

@stuck stream might know if you need max CTO to do that optimization or not

[surreal ferry]

So basicly i cannot let slice and dice drop

[wraith pewter]

Correct

[surreal ferry]

What about pistol procs

I use them basicly when they shine so that would be oportunity proc

[wraith pewter]

You use them as long as you wont over cap on energy

when playing BB Venth you want to think about pressing as many SS as possible in order to proc BB

and then NEVER press SS with BB proc up

[surreal ferry]

Crap :)

[wraith pewter]

you are either at 3 or less so you use BB proc or you are 4 or more then you finish and BB

[surreal ferry]

Hmmm

Got it

I use ss tooo less

I think i waste too much combo points

By for example

I press pistol shot and alrready am at 4 5 combo points

I realizes that alot of.time

Instead to build em.with ss dispatch then use pistol

[wraith pewter]

Your CP waste from PS wasnt that bad

you had a good bit of waste tho on SS

Are you tracking your RTB buffs? becuase when you have broadside (generate more CP) you want to finish at 5 or 6

[surreal ferry]

I do yes

And i have all weak auras i need

Tracking all that stuff and know about that

I need alot more practice to get it right

So basicly im screwing opener,i didnt rtb in stealth thats first waste of time when pull happens

I forgot few times slice and dice

I need perfect opener to get.muscle.memory with that

Then maintain rest of the stuff

So basicly opener is as u sad
Ambush,adrenaline, at max cp(if no broadside)i vanish dispatch

Why i.dont use betwen the eyes before all that

Because of crit it gives

[wraith pewter]

no in opener

you vanish ambush

ambush adr vanish ambush

your first finisher is always BTE

then if you dont have the SND roll your next finisher will be SND

[surreal ferry]

And then build cp for betwen the eyes to get buff up

Then cps for dispatch

Rince and repeat

[wraith pewter]

yeah the only "opener" part of Outlaw is the initial Ambush ADR vanish Ambush everthing else is just standard outlaw priorities

Also make sure you never press SS when BB proc is up

[surreal ferry]

Bb proc is oportunity right?

[wraith pewter]

BB is blunderbuss

our leggo

[surreal ferry]

And whats oportunity proc then

[wraith pewter]

thats pistol proc

Every time you gain Opportunity

you have a chacne yo gain BB as well

which shoots a bunch of shots

[surreal ferry]

So bb proc is free betwen the eyes thing?

[wraith pewter]

no thats your 4p lol

[surreal ferry]

Damnnn haha

[wraith pewter]

So there Opp which is a the half cost pistol shot

then that has a chance to also give you a BB proc

which shoots 3 additional pistol shots

[surreal ferry]

Ahaaaa

[wraith pewter]

Then every 6th pistol shot

we get a free BTE

[surreal ferry]

And if i ss i fuck that then

[wraith pewter]

yeah if you SS while you have BB up

you could overwrite that buff

[surreal ferry]

Mann

I must spend night with doll today

Not women doll

Haha

[wraith pewter]

Target Dummy*

[surreal ferry]

Yes

Well thanks alot man.gonnaa practice now theres alot to learn..shit should of stay demon with 2 button press but couldnt stand demon beiing dot class haha

[wraith pewter]

lol good luck!