#Log review - Liamr
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naive gorge
you are playing dancing steel on guardian
lightless enchant aswell
you arent using vanish nearly enough
silent citrus
you are very right, and I feel like a idiot for not switching to BR for raid
naive gorge
u want to vanish ambush in opener and vanish dispatch rest of fight
naive gorge
you are very right, and I feel like a idiot for not switching to BR for raid
i mean most fight u can play dancing right now if u want to pad
but guardian is still only st
@warm eagle
tou have some early finishers it seems but nothing major
silent citrus
Yeah i have a bad habit im trying to break of where i finish -1 even if broadside isnt up, so a bit inconsistent with that depending on how much im autopiloting
naive gorge
yeah thats not too bad anyway its fine
not using vanish on cd is bad tho
this aswell
I assume thats just a mistake
but bte doesnt proc cto ^^
silent citrus
Yeah thats my bad on that one
chaning my UI a bit so I can see when vanish if off CD now easier to Im not wasting uses
naive gorge
yeah I think thats mostly it tho, rest seems fine
u could use ur opp procs a bit more
try to use them under 70 ish energy
example here u dipped low on energy for some time without consuming ur opp proc
u do that a lot
will lead to energy starvation more easely
silent citrus
Will do! thank you
Are there any smaller minmaxes you can see I can improve on?
Noting down the things you said here to improve on already and you said the rest was "fine". But even smaller things if u see them
naive gorge
not that I can easely see like that no
I cant see how well u are using bte in logs for example
we have this minmaxy rule if u want
really minima
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silent citrus
Going to switch to bladerush for heroic clear. How do I use that optimally? I assume throw it on CD, but for example in the opener do I ue it off that bat before my first bte or does that take prio
naive gorge
u use it at low energy (40ish)
so most likely u wont use it in opener
also thats just a st talent, whenever there is adds u probably want to play dancing
tomes are really cheap to swap in raid
silent citrus
Ah okay thank you, had no idea it was such a low prio ability
Ill look at what the top are doing for each boss to see which is worth to BR on and which i should just keep steel
warm eagle
If you wanna minmax dont forget to check which ability u Can cos or feint
Tu keep high uptime on target
silent citrus
Yeah is there a doc with all the stuff that feint/cloak doesn’t work on?
naive gorge
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silent citrus
Thank you
silent citrus
@naive gorge @warm eagle Hey, let me know if I’m just being annoying asking for a follow up but this week tried to apply all the things you guys mentioned. Parsed mostly purple/blue this run with the new and improved play but still trying to improve on anything I can if you just don’t mind looking
silent citrus
What boss is that?
naive gorge
halondrus
warm eagle
hi back
silent citrus
Hmm I have no idea what I was doing there then
naive gorge
you could use 2 pots btw on halondrus
6min fight for u
using pot on bl doent do a lot for us
u should pot on flag/ar
one on pull and one whenever u can at the end
naive gorge
u are supposed to roll if u only have cto
warm eagle
u not necesserally rerolling
naive gorge
and he just forgot to rtb prepull
warm eagle
and he just forgot to rtb prepull
ye that one is not optimal
naive gorge
and he still have holes even if I account for cto
silent citrus
Okay I just assumed on BL but I’ll start throwing on pull. First time doing theses bosses so idk fight lengths yet
warm eagle
u are supposed to roll if u only have cto
as far as i know its not worth the gcd if u have good cto
naive gorge
as far as i know its not worth the gcd if u have good cto
it is
silent citrus
u are supposed to roll if u only have cto
So if I CTO a good buff still reroll? I use the WA that disappears if I have good buffs so I haven’t been rerolling if it doesn’t tell me
warm eagle
So if I CTO a good buff still reroll? I use the WA that disappears if I have goo...
thats what im doing too but id
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naive gorge
im not sure i understand what u are saying
what im saying is, if u only have ctos buffs u would reroll
since u only get bonus rolls
nothing goes away
ok so ur opp proc usage is still not great
u are using them at way too high energy sometimes
and not using at low energy
exemple here these 3 opp procs shouldnt have been used
u have a lot of energy
never dipped below 70 energy
and I mean 70 energy not 70% right
and then here u couldve used u dipped very low
just some examples
but u do that a lot
silent citrus
Yeah, because last week I wasn’t using enough I’ve been trying to get them in even if I’m a bit high as long as I get get my next global out before I overcap
naive gorge
its better that u use less than more btw
haha
I think its mostly a problem during AR
so consider that when ar end u lose all the energy that u had above 100
silent citrus
But yeah you’re right just not be fancy and just follow 70. Still getting used to the fast pace of outlaw
naive gorge
so u want to try to stay under 100
even in ar
so yeah u are mostly using too much procs in ar now
silent citrus
Do you track when AR is going to end and try to energy dump? Or do you just subconsciously do it at this point
warm eagle
Do you track when AR is going to end and try to energy dump? Or do you just subc...
just try to allways be using so u don't miss gcd
naive gorge
ye
warm eagle
but i see u have good apm so ur not doing that a whole lot
if u get the priority right you might become better than me
as iam a bit slower on my key pressing
silent citrus
Haha after doing keys plus raid last night went off with sore fingers and hands
warm eagle
Haha after doing keys plus raid last night went off with sore fingers and hands
ye mostly the reason i don't
i just can't keep up X)
silent citrus
99% of the time in past raiding when I played in BFA I was sin so it suited my slow brain more
But overall is that the main thing you can see, me just missing opp procs consistently?
I’ll also try to start rerolling if I have just CTO buff
But I fear mid fight I might lose track which buffs are CTO and which are RTB
I’ve been inconsistent doing the BtE minmax. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t, both in raid and M+
warm eagle
i can see maybe ur flag not optimally used
u should reduce the cd of flag to at least 40-50 sec
on dauseign u have 1m05 sec of cd
naive gorge
idk if u can reduce it that much consistently
warm eagle
so i think ur not pumping enough finisher during flag
warm eagle
idk if u can reduce it that much consistently
my mentor does
naive gorge
who is ur mentor lol
warm eagle
dritzz
silent citrus
Should I ever pool pre flag? My rule has just kinda been use it just before I finish but otherwise throw on CD
naive gorge
no dont pool
warm eagle
idk if he be trolling me but he told me he put cd to 25 sec recently
warm eagle
i think 55 is the least u can do even with bad roll no ?
warm eagle
Should I ever pool pre flag? My rule has just kinda been use it just before I fi...
maybe just try to hit harder on key when u flag
😄
naive gorge
and like 4set doesnt reduce the cooldown
yeah but u are getting stacks with 4set aswell
warm eagle
yes
silent citrus
Yeah I have noticed recently having some flags in the high 20s instead of hitting 30. But idk why I was getting those sometimes
warm eagle
the 4 set reduc cd no ?
silent citrus
Chalked it up to flag during low rolls or something
But I guess it’s full circle because if I use my opp procs better like mentioned I prob have more energy and get more out of my flags
warm eagle
ive been told to aim for 45 sec at least or its that i failed my setup
silent citrus
Def felt energy starved on some fights which is weird and don’t usually feel that on outlaw
naive gorge
its really not, 45sec is probably a reallky good flag
warm eagle
im not as knowlageble as some people so don't take my word for gospell anyway
naive gorge
let me check something
warm eagle
Def felt energy starved on some fights which is weird and don’t usually feel tha...
maybe ur stuff
can i see ur statprio and trinket
u should not be energy starved most of the time with a dagger
as it generate a lot
naive gorge
dagger generate the same
idk if we had a command for that
!oh
nah doesnt say
but energy regen that procs from off hand attacks is the same
warm eagle
well my info are not on par sorry if i tell bad stuff
silent citrus
Like you want me to sim statweoghts rq?
warm eagle
no just ur stat
silent citrus
Using 298 eye of command and 304 reticle trinket
silent citrus
Turning on PC and logging in to show stats sorry
naive gorge
@warm eagle i think i know what u meant when u said u should aim for 45s flags
probably cause u have a wa that has the buff and the cd on the same spell
so when the stacking part end
u see the cd
and at this time since u already spent some of it buuilding it will be lower
silent citrus
warm eagle
isn't that way too much haste ?
naive gorge
it doesnt matter too much
silent citrus
Vers is simming giga for me rn. Actually re enchanted mid raid and re gemmed my ring
naive gorge
he does have a lot of haste
but stats doesnt impact much
but yeah @silent citrus i cant really find that much mistakes in ur log
if u want u can make a vod for next time
can see more from one
silent citrus
if u want u can make a vod for next time
Yeah if you guys would be willing I can record a raid
silent citrus
when i get rank1, ill say it in my speech
you also made me stop using lightless on my wep last time
so thats 2enchants
warm eagle
stuff opti is the way when u bad like me :p
try to get mecagnome ring or the malandrus signet
and if u have gold try siming leg in crit/versa
silent citrus
simming leg in crit/versa?
warm eagle
legendary
silent citrus
i think both my legos are crit versa
silent citrus
yeah I should. unity was on bracers from playing sub but should just spend the gold and recraft both
or at least sim it to see if the diff is big enough to spend the gold
silent citrus
Just realised I had tea buff going, if that affects that SS i sent
which was haste
silent citrus
Was going to wait until Nathria so I had a raid where I actually knew mechanics for you guys to look at but think my guild is disbanding so don't think ill be raiding next week so recorded Lords of Dread, Rygelon and Jailer. Bit scuffed to review I guess since my play is off on bosses i dont know
@naive gorge @warm eagle . No rush, and again thank you guys for being willing to put the time in on the log reviews already and now this
warm eagle
you still seem to be doing pistols shot at high energy
i sax you overcap a lot on this fight
"dreadlord"
117 ss for 93 pistol shot
i think opn this fight u used like 30 ps without opp proc
thats not good
u can have a bit more uptime on bf too
u can use rune on each pull too
get the infinit one
or just use regular they are piss cheap now
naive gorge
117 ss for 93 pistol shot
you have to know that pistol shot casts count the 2 sets
if u press it to open it
environmemt (the one without targets) are the 2 sets
so he actually used 33+28 ps so 61
and had 68 opp proc buff
naive gorge
haha no continue its fine, we need more ppl that can read logs
warm eagle
thx :3
naive gorge
dont worry about it ^^