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#classic-discussion
dusk crystal
ripped
neat sun
See, the problem here is - you guys thought you wanted this
But you didn't.
This is the REAL Vanilla experience bois
drowsy phoenix
I love classic just as much as you all do
daring thunder
@fair carbon
fair carbon
ETTU
drowsy phoenix
rip oce
fair carbon
neat sun
Ohhh, that's the Illidan queue right there baby
daring thunder
neat sun
Go take a nap
fair carbon
Crit
I was stuck at 1700 for 15 minutes
there was a mass DC and I dropped to 700
Now I've been stuck at 700 for 15 minutes
daring thunder
Can't wait to get home from work and my friends are still in queue
fair carbon
daring thunder
hidden basin
fuck this shit i'm calling customer support
neat sun
roflmao
drowsy phoenix
if it's really classic the gms wont care
errant timber
what are they gonna doi
hidden basin
just stuck in loading screen and after 3 minutes it says world is down
so calling customer support
errant timber
call up head office
drowsy phoenix
drowsy phoenix
dwarf players at it again
hidden basin
daring thunder
Calling customer support
neat sun
@fair carbon Again .. My server has no queue and the world server is down. Just because you get in doesn't mean you'll get anywhere
daring thunder
I had to work today
fair carbon
hidden basin
im not calling customer support because i'm stuck in queue, i got in character screen but no one on eu can access the world
errant timber
what are they gonna do
hidden basin
so i'm calling customer support
errant timber
this is what happens when a million people try to connect to an MMO on launch lol
drowsy phoenix
ME. LEARN. PICK POCKET
the wetlands runners are really out here, dwarves and gnomes
neat sun
lol
opaque slate
they nailed the vanilla experience so far huh
plucky nymph
plucky nymph
PREPARE TO DANCE
errant timber
just kidding i'm still in q
hidden basin
how come eu is worse than us
how come world is down on eu but not on us
calling customer support
daring thunder
Pogu
fair carbon
WEW LAD
daring thunder
The correct choice
neat sun
At least I get to watch GTA 5 RP
hidden basin
i called customer support they are answering
they are not answering
this is ridicilious
neat sun
You're one of 3 million people calling
daring thunder
Can't tell if you're memeing
plucky nymph
There aren't that many idiots.
daring thunder
What do you expect them to do
hidden basin
im not memeing i'm trying to meme blizz though
vocal hornet
cant find the track herbs button.
neat sun
"I'd rather be part of the problem"
drowsy phoenix
track herbs in spellbook
neat sun
Most of my friends are just palying BFA
vocal hornet
its not in spellbook
hidden basin
none of my friends play wow
vocal hornet
Probably should be
neat sun
I'm playing 100% solo
hidden basin
i mean not lone wolf i socialize with people in wow
vocal hornet
lol. Duskwood zone doesnt exist and is dumping me.
drowsy phoenix
nonne of my irls play wow
hidden basin
i see
neat sun
tf are you doing in Duskwood?
vocal hornet
I ran east for explore xp. picking weeds.
neat sun
nerd
vocal hornet
but the murlocks sent me south. instance aborted errors
hidden basin
classic is so much better for socializing man it's crazy, it can never get boring if you don't have irl friends in wow
neat sun
You got on to pagle @vocal hornet
vocal hornet
there was like 1000 people at human start.
neat sun
Mine keeps telling me world server is down. I can't get in
vocal hornet
I found 25c in a chest. Im rich
daring thunder
@fair carbon ping me if any funny shit goes down
daring thunder
hidden basin
It's 1am here
don't know if it's smarter ot just go to sleep and just play tomorrow
neat sun
Every zone is
drowsy phoenix
im halfway through 4 and I dinked around with settings
wraith parcel
Teldrassil world server just keeps on crashing on my realm 
drowsy phoenix
glad I went the least full server for eastern other than westfall
wraith parcel
My server isnt even full
drowsy phoenix
look at it this way
the queues will never be as big as an hour ago bc people already got salty and quit
opaque slate
Lmao
opaque slate
“F this im out”
wraith parcel
Its just that teldrassil keeps crashing
drowsy phoenix
oh damn
wraith parcel
Or, maybe its kalimdor, idk
But my gnome/dwarf friends are leveling on with only some slight lag
drowsy phoenix
I dont think I have any more lag issues
drowsy phoenix
humans lol
daring thunder
paladins
drowsy phoenix
so many humans
daring thunder
lets gut some humies
vocal hornet
that was about 5 seconds after open
hidden basin
fuck humans
drowsy phoenix
kromcrush time
vale rock
Man I do not know what race to play atm lol
drowsy phoenix
is that the normal one?
daring thunder
lulw
errant timber
yeah with only 2 and 1 being pvp
daring thunder
my friends trying to log in were in q 3 minutes before servers went up
errant timber
that's thew only one anyone will play on
daring thunder
yeah
kinda sucks
but it'll be good in a couple of weeks
when a majority of people are gone
holy shit 
drowsy phoenix
rip crit
daring thunder
thats not me
but someone linked it from the oce discord
i don't think i'll be able to log in tonight friends
livid palm
how does my que in line go down but my wait time triple
vocal hornet
pretty sure they ran out of shards.
drowsy phoenix
spider cave is clogging up
daring thunder
yeah they were not prepared for this
don't think they expected this many people to play it
vocal hornet
like WTF WE HAVE 25000 shards of THE STARTING ZONE
drowsy phoenix
"oh wow they actually wanted it"
vocal hornet
you think they do, but
daring thunder
starts working on tbc servers
neat sun
I'm half tempted to check other servers and see what happens
errant timber
like i don't wanna drop the q
neat sun
It's like Blizzard forgot to turn on AWS scaling or something.
errant timber
if i drop the q i'll just lose it all
neat sun
I'm playing alone... I can go on any server
errant timber
neat sun
My wife just said to, "I thought you were going to play?"
neat sun
GOD DAMNIT WOMAN
drowsy phoenix
lul
unkempt cove
Which realms have lowest wait time atm
vocal hornet
@neat sun wasting good wife aggro on que times
errant timber
lmao
civic crest
!classic
tall rivetBOT
WoW Classic live since: 1 days 2 hours 13 minutes 54 seconds
vocal hornet
still world server down, so it doesnt matter if you get in.
unkempt cove
World of peacecraft
daring thunder
NA servers
vocal hornet
have friends on horde side still going, but the world server shards arent working
neat sun
I hated the "get ganked for 3 hours straight" part of Vanilla
Some people enjoy it - I didn't
drowsy phoenix
how is grob 2 minutes but past 10k
unkempt cove
Wtf Herod is low
neat sun
I wonder how the Method contest for world first is going... ROFLMAO
errant timber
they're probs lvl 20
daring thunder
the wait time numbers are pretty skewed
errant timber
(^:
daring thunder
its a lot longer than what it shows there i think
errant timber
yeah the wait time numbers are fucked
unkempt cove
@daring thunder what's the source for those numbers
daring thunder
unkempt cove
Tysm
daring thunder
arugal 👏
neat sun
It's hilarious that Blizzard still hasn't learned from their past failures.
unkempt cove
Well guess i chance it by sitting in queue then going to get groceries
unkempt cove
Yeah we chose stalagg cause we thought it was gonna be better but it looks like it's one of the highest
neat sun
Plenty of time to change...
errant timber
i mean every server is fucked rn tho
vocal hornet
too bad they couldnt figure out the rolling launch
daring thunder
but pve servers
unkempt cove
Non PvP isn't even an option for real gamers. Wpvp was the best part of vanilla
daring thunder
remulos on OCE has no wait time, but nobody wants to play there
neat sun
I mean, you can still pvp on Normal servers
daring thunder
everybody is going arugal
unkempt cove
Wpvp
errant timber
yeah but like the game is designed around wpvp
it really wouldn't be the same on a pve
daring thunder
need that honor
neat sun
World PVP still happens on normal servers?
daring thunder
not to the same extent
drowsy phoenix
it happens at a rate that I enjoy
neat sun
Not to the "lol you're ganked" extent, right
unkempt cove
How does wpvp happen
drowsy phoenix
taunt baiting
drowsy phoenix
someone mocks and taunts someone for not flagging until they go away for flag
neat sun
I'm going to enjoy playing the game how I want to play it
Not how others want me to play it
unkempt cove
That's fine. For me it was all about the unplanned skirmishes in the world
neat sun
Great, but saying someone "isn't a real gamer" because they don't like the same shit you do is laughable
it makes anything else you say completely meaningless
unkempt cove
You're making it a bigger deal than I meant it
daring thunder
im gonna be honest
this isn't the real classic experience for oce because we actually have servers this time around
#giveme200ping
neat sun
lol
drowsy phoenix
daring thunder
okay time to work. gl with your queues friends 
neat sun
later brother
drowsy phoenix
rip crit
drowsy phoenix
I mean, I'm playing
neat sun
I'm not
drowsy phoenix
rip you too lul
neat sun
yeah
Things are definitely not functioning properly.
I assume layering is just a fancy loadbalancer
And it looks like we're just DDOSing the load balancer and it's scuffed
errant timber
i have a feeling they're gonna figure out whatever is going wrong
and the floodgates are just gonna open
neat sun
They'll figure it out
errant timber
cause 1500 in queue should be only a couple of minutes
o
mine just dropped by 150
so they probably did figure it out
neat sun
Maybe - I'm still dead in the water. GL to you mang
fallow quail
saddest part is i was already in but changing resolution made it lag and crashed and now im in world server is down land
neat sun
RIP
fallow quail
drowsy phoenix
why yes I picked the samew peacebloom four times
vocal hornet
Just come back tomorrow folks.
plucky nymph
IM RICH
neat sun
Yeah .. I'm probably just going to chill for an hour or two and come back at this point
Almost 2 hours of being told the world server is down. RIP
Makes me wish I didn't finish my D3 journey, lol
vocal hornet
neg
plucky nymph
What about it
drowsy phoenix
I casted gouge with full energy on mobs and I had 95 before they got out of it
so I think it's just every 2 seconds independent of combat state
plucky nymph
uhhuh...
drowsy phoenix
you say this as if you figured it out weeks before me
neat sun
technically, that was figured out 15 years ago
plucky nymph
Yeah I knew this...
drowsy phoenix
remembered x amount of time before I learned
how bout that
this is still new to me
neat sun
There's an energy bar addon
You may have used it directly after an energy tick
meaning you were waiting the full 2s
neat sun
I haven't played much since Legion, so I'm gonna be rusty af with WA
vocal hornet
I can pick weeds. They just don't show up in my map. And it's not in my general spellbook.
vocal hornet
I will when I get in.
errant timber
I was thinking herb and enchanter, or is there any combo that's really good specifically
neat sun
Anything without skinning is just dumb, IMO
It's free money for every beast you kill
I'm about to close bnet and try again
silver cove
livid palm
did you reload the game?
livid palm
lucky.. i started at 16k, now at 9k
wind lantern
!classic
tall rivetBOT
WoW Classic live since: 1 days 3 hours 16 minutes 58 seconds
wind lantern
well thats not right lol
drowsy phoenix
evrery value is off by 1
drowsy phoenix
you got this
vocal hornet
Im still at char screen. World server down. :(
neat sun
Alright, trying this again...
Yeah, I got in @vocal hornet but then my PC decided to restart for updates.
neat sun
Noobe
I got right in
Do you have a video card driver update?
That's what restarted my computer
livid palm
they just opened 3 new servers
neat sun
lol
man, this is a nightmare trying to do anything.
Is this is layering
I'd hate to see it without layering
neat sun
This is unplayable
1500 people in a small area
There's a 3-5 second lag with anything you do
errant timber
the best part was how upset people were about it originally
and it's unplayable with it
placid loom
apparently they need to layer the login server
fossil steeple
if only it counted as melee
fossil steeple
same goes for the mining pickaxe/smithing hammer iirc
daring thunder
@vocal hornet yeah arugal for oce is at 10hrs
neat sun
Key was skipping cobolds and killing in the human fields
Got me to 4, now I'm out the starting zone
plucky nymph
Just buy a sword from the weaponsmith > _>
neat sun
isn't learning swords 10s?
neat sun
yes 😦
BUT, I skipped all of the wolves/kobolds, so HYPE
Hopefully it'll be less laggy for me now
drowsy phoenix
my eviscerates hurt now
neat sun
I haven't leveled anything yet
drowsy phoenix
someone saying mankrik is down to medium and that they got booted and reconnected easily
neat sun
I'm getting 2-3 second lag on Pagle still
neat sun
yeah, think I'm going to eat some food and try another server.
plucky nymph
YOJAMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
daring thunder
don't think so
glacial lichen
fuck
daring thunder
also that server is way too late
dunno if any of my friends will want to leave arugal
daring thunder
pretty sure server transfers aren't a thing
fossil steeple
they arent atm,but they might be a thing at some point
errant timber
probably will
fair carbon
Miz do you have any idea how to fix this LUA error with Tukui? I have no idea.
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Time: Mon Aug 26 19:40 :32 2019
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Stack: Interface\AddOns\Tukui\Modules\Tooltips\Core.lua:296: Usage: UnitHealth("unit")
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Locals: (*temporary) = nil
I keep getting it like every few minutes
plucky nymph
lol
plucky nymph
THE SYSTEM WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORKS
livid palm
im so close!
drowsy phoenix
wait
so
I just learned fist weapons can I not use them though
or does it like
borrow from the unarmed skill?
nvm found out
errant timber
LOL
plucky nymph
plucky nymph
Take where it's saved in BFA, copy it, paste it to where it would go in your classic folder, and pray that the addon is the same and it doesn't break.
drowsy phoenix
eastern got rppvp
memeviate delight babeyyy
so if MH and OH are the same weapon
OH does 50% of MH?
plucky nymph
Ye.
drowsy phoenix
fandral is a dick can we fast forward to him dying in firelands
vocal hornet
drowsy phoenix
"tyrande has no idea how to lead our people" ok go die some more
drowsy phoenix
I.. may have goofed
I bugged him out and he didnt spawn minions this time
he respawns quick af
gray patio
untold sleet
Is leveling with daggers much slower than swords? Would Love to World PvP with daggers while leveling.
lavish berry
When should i pick up sword spec?
daring thunder
Think you learn swords at 30?
daring thunder
Pogu
lavish berry
u playing rn?
daring thunder
I'm not even home yet
lavish berry
rip
daring thunder
Got a family member to start my log in queue tho
Gotta plan up for the deadmines run with the boys on the weekend
cerulean elm
anyone found a good spec to level with as rogue on classic?
vocal hornet
shadowpanther leveling guide is fine.
you can stab things in the face and disregard backstab.
tame geyser
am I gimping my pve dps by going nelf rogue instead of human?
drowsy phoenix
by a negligible number
human good is pretty much template for rogue
that being said who cares
fair carbon
cyan shuttle
i got to 12 last night but now have to work .. guess I get someone to log in my character 2 hours before I come home 😂
karmic bridge
If I'm logged in and let's say auto running into a wall will I get kicked off
civic crest
I believe that you do
near fable
So
Save 10 silver for sword spec
Oooooooor
Learn higher ranked spells
K just read the gladius leveling path, pins op
ruby bridge
or 10 silver to found a guild
final girder
im most hyped for prep build
but i probably won't get past leveling in barrens
xd
near fable
I won't get past the que today with loads of errands running in between
final girder
yeah same
im really pondering to make a char on low pop realms even though none of my friends play there
with life how it is right now i have like 2 hours per day (and not always) to play, right now i will spend this time in a queue
final girder
i mean especially since up until lvl 60, you will mostly play solo
native heath
guys attacking dummy or having the auction house open does not logging you off when you afk? asking so i can avoid my 20k ques
weak salmon
Got into mograine at like 6 am server time and created my chars. Couple hours later it already got queues while still being a medium pop server
acoustic heath
yea mograine is full now
native heath
yeah fuck the ques i wish there was a way to stay online 24/7
sturdy kettle
Where is the pin for good classic Addons? 
placid loom
Play the vanilla leveling experience. Don’t use anything. Maybe a swing timer.
final girder
what about quest tracker
thorny wyvern
does anyone know how to display combo points in classic? lol
weak salmon
Rip mograine, the eu pvp realm with the coolest name
hybrid zealot
My server is a cluster for special kill quests
Best you got is a million people making groups and hope you get the tag
errant timber
GOD
fucking westfall alliance quests
i got almost an entire level of exp from just mobs
hidden basin
Are the queues any better now?
raven snow
best race for ally rogue is human right
hybrid zealot
Pve human. Pvp depends but gnome is pretty good
untold sleet
fallow glen
ahhh this level 10 quest is tricky
weak salmon
So I'm in queue for an hour and it went from 8k something to 6.5k
On the realm that was created yesterday
Really don't wanna switch this time :(
raven snow
!classic
tall rivetBOT
WoW Classic live since: 1 days 15 hours 53 minutes 41 seconds
raven snow
was it kromcrush
weak salmon
Mograine eu
Also it's live for 15 hours
Not a day and 15 hrs
Bot is a bit off
Left the queue since I won't get there before the work day is over (lol) to check other realms
ruby bridge
XD i should fix !classic, tho its funny i fucked up there
weak salmon
Shazzrah has a stunning 19k q
ruby bridge
i mean, i would lie if i say i did not expect that
craggy ledge
Anyone know what the Oceanic PVP realm is que time currently?
weak salmon
I did not expect a new realm to fill that quickly
vocal hornet
@errant timber yeah. I must have killed 40 gnolls for 8 armbands.
placid loom
Logged on before bed. At a 2 min que 7 hours later. Hahah gg bliz
raven snow
best lvling spec ?
untold sleet
@raven snow https://shadowpanther.net/leveling.htm
raven snow
xoxo
hidden basin
all lvling guide websites are broken
because so many people visit them
it's insane
half geode
what addon are you guys using for enemy cast bars? weaponswingtimer, i think is the only one i heard of, there another popular one?
raven snow
is it just me or gatherer addon doesnt work at all?
unique oriole
quartz
untold granite
are you guys using any lvling addons??
hidden basin
does all 1.12 addons work in the client?
@unique oriole you use quartz for enemy cast bar?
what website you download from?
ruby bridge
anyone playing in 600p for the authentic classic experience (800x600 resolution) ?
fast plinth
Anyone know a good WA set for classic?
Also, anyone know if MSBT works for classic? Can't find it
hidden basin
376 minutes queue oh boy
lucid beacon
ruby bridge
my pinned meme is on point still 🙂
hushed laurel
Pagles queue was only an hour and a half or so yesterday, was nice
@hidden basin im sure you got an answer already, but no, 1.12 add-ons don't work. Classic is closer to retail than 1.12. You basically need classic specific add ons
ruby bridge
classic is essentially retail with a more limited api
vocal hornet
Lol
Enjoy. I had to do exploration xp for a few levels until starter zone cleared out
hushed laurel
Yah, missed launch by about 2 hours, so I had smooth sailing in the UD zone
vocal hornet
I had to make a /tar Garrick /cast ss. To tag.
Bound to scroll wheel.
But knife throw was champ.
Got me all kinds of stuff.
That and Google fiber. 13ms
hushed laurel
Lol, I got the first spawn of the scarlet named mob. UD are less poplar than hummies though
*first spawn I saw
Horde side on pagle looks nice and full too. My guild was worried about it because of the surveys, but I figured it wouldn't be that bad
hidden basin
@hushed laurel Yeah I see that. I use the addons from wow classic tavern they work fine.
Good website for anyone looking for addons
ruby bridge
wounder how it would look without layering
kindred lynx
Any1 got any good classic WA's ?
ruby bridge
kindred lynx
sweet, couldnt find that thx
ruby bridge
idk, i assumed servers stabalize
but its the time a lot of eu ppl come home and login
karmic bridge
is lvl 8 at 3 hours slow
opaque moat
ur fine
fringe sierra
for a human rogue are swords or maces better?
kindred plume
@hidden basin @fringe sierra it's both
you get sword and mace specialization for 1h and 2h
signal ember
@karmic bridge I just hit 8 and im clocking at 3 hours
wraith parcel
ngl that debuff sucks ass to have
shadow tapir
Non issue as a dwarf!
karmic bridge
I'm level 9 and just realized i've been using only heroic strike 
drowsy phoenix
I have to kill 20 rabies bears
native heath
anyone found a way to not log out yet?
drowsy phoenix
I was up for 10 hours and then I logged off
queues are nbd
and by that I mean 0
native heath
not on my server ;p
drowsy phoenix
rip not mankrik
native heath
20k+ ques
i gonna do it the old way and stick some paper to mouse to keep moving so i never log out tbh
wraith parcel
Playing on a medium pop server in the eu logged of after 10 hours, didnt expect 9k in queue
vocal hornet
imagine being at blizzzrd and seeing their surge subscription numbers.
karmic bridge
does the game save your spot in queue if you get off for like a few minutes
vocal hornet
maybe
we had a guy reboot and it kept him in line.
but then another guy just logged right in. bypassing a 6k que others were in.
sharp grotto
whats best build for rogues in classic ?
raven snow
So what races you all went? I went for a nelf
dusk crystal
orc
halcyon wadi
Played to lvl 6 last night as a female orc
rogue
and been sitting in queue for at least two hours today again lol
neat sun
eww
Pagle doesn't seem to have a queue at all - it's nice.
I was watching Kyle (GTA V RP Streamer) - he was 110k in queue for his server
hybrid zealot
Mankirk for na was full and longest was 2k but it only took 10 minutes
dusk crystal
atleast got to 10, slow af
neat sun
Yeah, Pagle might be bad otnight... Who knows.
But the layer crashing and kicking everyone is so damn annoying
ruby bridge
classic could be a nice place for roleplayers
it could potentially lure a lot of the gta folk to it and/or reignite the rp community
daring thunder
stray whale
hey if im planning on going combat swords, as im sure most are, do we have a efficient point in the leveling process to go to undercity to learn swords or do we just do a quick detour to grab it ?
dusk crystal
portal off a mage cant remember when they get it.. or just take the zep
neat sun
mages can't portal others til like 40
ruby bridge
well noone is lvl 40 atm
silver dew
Should I get/upgrade rupture for leveling? Or should I skip it for my mount
tough tartan
<1 minute - 91 minutes - 79 minutes - 10 minutes - 100 minutes - <1 minute - 79 minutes
blizz make up ur mind already
neat sun
rank 1 rupture is good for shit that runs
drowsy phoenix
I just shoot at the runners lol
dusk crystal
^
neat sun
ammo costs most. rank 1 rupture is damn near free
RIP
layer crashed again
Like the 5th time today
livid palm
Anyone got a link to the blaumeux discord?
raven snow
Does anyone know how to move that Stealth icon right next to the character, cant check if its an addon if its. https://i.imgur.com/p5Hd9kY.jpg
stray whale
what unitframes is that 🙂
raven snow
Shadowunitframe
hidden basin
OMFG
I WENT FOR A SMOKE AND IT DC'ED ME
NOW I'M BACK IN QUEUE
fuck this
i'm calling customer support
😡
raven snow
OH its bartender... lol
neat sun
If you got kicked right out to your login screen, the layer you were on crashed
raven snow
thats fucked
sharp grotto
how should i start my talents out in classic?
daring thunder
most of the leveling guides tell you the talent order to pick for your class
sharp grotto
ah didnt see any guide my fault
daring thunder
what class you playing
sharp grotto
rogue
sharp grotto
ah nice thank you
hidden basin
i thought it dced me because i went afk for 3 minutes
so you say the layer crashed, yeah it's possible
neat sun
Not even level yet and I'm already stocked up on Flash Powder.
frank geyser
Does rogue do alot of damage in pve?
I know it's good for pvp but I dony wanna be inting for pve with shit dps
merry wren
I'm torn between a picking a human and dwarf for my rogue alt. I plan on doing mainly pvp. I know dwarf is better but for completely superficial reasons I'd prefer human. How big of a deal is stoneform? Breaking blinds and scrubbing bleeds for re stealth sounds clutch.
daring thunder
its pretty strong overall
human has stealth detection which is nice vs other rogues
opaque slate
these queues are nuts
orchid ledge
help pls help im new whats best guide for classic rogue? indepth information
opaque slate
glad i decided to punt vacation time till next week and can grind it at a decent pace
neat sun
I was supposed to be off next week but my boss moved it 😦
@vocal hornet Thank god! I just AFk'd for an hour not to be queued
orchid ledge
pls team help me
plucky nymph
Google it, there's tons of guides and I am not sure what you would need for A guide to be considered "the best".
gritty goblet
meta has been defined a good while ago my man
daring thunder
daring thunder
ye
daring thunder
on what
fair carbon
People logging remotely
gritty goblet
oce 
fair carbon
Somehow
daring thunder
its not against tos
daring thunder
aye
plush perch
you think its a good idea to just farm the van cleef swords? and how long will those carry me?
loud tree
plush perch
thats some 10-20 levels?
loud tree
yeah, it's really good if you get it
loud tree
for sure. shadowpanther is great
fallow glen
are there any talents to make me walk faster in stealth?
fallow glen
ooooh i need that
drowsy phoenix
queue done while playing other game lol
drowsy phoenix
@wind lantern human mage ally mankrik?
quartz pagoda
is energy regeneration always the same in classic?
drowsy phoenix
20 per 2 seconds unless otherwise stated by buff/debuff
quartz pagoda
like nothing to increase it?
drowsy phoenix
haste isnt real
quartz pagoda
how am i supposed to get 4-5 cp on a dungeon mob before it dies lol
drowsy phoenix
you dont lol
drowsy phoenix
keep snd up, if you have a full evi then use it
other than that evi is just a cheap SS
that doesnt generate points for snd
quartz pagoda
so just go with like backstab ss ss ss ss sd
then ss until u have evis?
ideally
if a mob lived longer than 10 sec
quartz pagoda
feels like rogue damage is super low is all
errant timber
Backstab costs a lot more than ss
And a huge portion of your damage is autoattacks
quartz pagoda
but does a lot more dmg
drowsy phoenix
divide its damage in three quarters to compensate for energy cost
if SS is doing >75% of backstab you just shouldnt be backstabbing at all
also less energy to go into snd
neat sun
Is there a castbar addon?
plucky nymph
opponent castbar or?
plucky nymph
I know you can use WA to make a player castbar, but I dunno about enemy castbar.
There's an addon, though last I saw it on Beta it was... buggy?
Laggy.
neat sun
It's mostly for dungeons
just had defias armor jacked by the warrior
definitely vanilla experience for me so far
drowsy phoenix
I lost an actual hour of time for forgetting to loot something
I got bad luck on killing blow eviscerates three times in a row
so I had to abandon quest multiple times
plucky nymph
uhhuh
tough tartan
was like that yesterday too
really odd
Mike - Fenfang-Kazzak(EU)Yesterday at 10:10 PM
<1 minute - 91 minutes - 79 minutes - 10 minutes - 100 minutes - <1 minute - 79 minutes
blizz make up ur mind already
mostly fixed now it seems tho
atleast in eu
untold granite
lucky you my realm had a 470 min queue yesterday
plucky nymph
It's likely trying to calculate the remaining time including the reductions in queue position.
So you get bounces like that.
tough tartan
Well I joined a low pop realm intentionally to try to not get a queue
untold granite
yea should do the same
tough tartan
it didnt work
does dual wielding on rogues do anything in classic?
sorry if dumb question, classic newb
plucky nymph
OH procs, -DMG/Hit on OH.
tough tartan
yeah im not gonna understand that sorry xD
im still new to rogues
OH?
-DMG/hit, so minus dmg?
Could you explain me as if Im Five?
plucky nymph
Example:
Brings off-hand damage back to 100%.
and off-hand attacks have a lower chance to hit.
plucky nymph
Well your OH auto-attacks will :3
tough tartan
well atm i dont have an offhand
daring thunder
it won't be double because you'll more more attacks that don't land
tough tartan
well as long as its more im happy :3
daring thunder
or they land as glancing blows which are partial damage
tough tartan
ppl are already multiboxing in classic? 
tough tartan
yeah wasnt supposed to be readable
its like "blackwidow1-blackwidow2-blackwidow3-blackwidow4" following blackwidow
versed cedar
ah okay ^^
drowsy phoenix
thirsty for knowledge
errant timber
just get used to doing the quest giving more xp than the actual quest
drowsy phoenix
yyyup...
errant timber
did 2 levels in westfall on just the grind quests
becaus the boats were turned off 
strong hamlet
can I play classic and live at the same time with 1 account?
drowsy phoenix
no
weak salmon
@drowsy phoenix cool guys don't look at explosions
brisk merlin
they need to change that asap, if I'm going to wait in que for 4 hours, I should be able to play retail while I do
drowsy phoenix
you got me there
glossy portal
to be fair, i am okay with 1 wow at the time
all you retail boys can't make que longer for vanilla players
daring thunder
I don't mind that they both can't be going at the same time, just means I play another game
weak salmon
The only time I can play is during work day. Good thing I now have a job with a PC and barely anything to do at the moment ;)
drowsy phoenix
gee I wonder what would give you that idea
it's almost as if people with active subs are playing classic
dusk crystal
it's not a hard choice what to pick when you're not raiding or such
errant timber
Idk wht everyone's acting like retail is the devil lmao
dusk crystal
different game
hopefully classic reception will have an effect how they develop retail in the future
ruby bridge
so, hows the login simulator going?
jade zephyr
So forgive me for a noob question but when using a sword as rogue do uw ant it in main hand or offhand? Also do u want lower or higher weapon speed for sword or any one hander?
fair dust
anyone knows if you can copy paste keybinds from retail to classic ?
waxen iris
rain jacinth
Is there an agreed upon Best pvp talent setup?
vocal lichen
no because there's lots of builds that are viable, it just depends on the gear/weps you have
mossy adder
Whats a good server for alliance?
vocal hornet
@jade zephyr shadowpanther guide has basics. Big slow mh.
jade zephyr
Thanks man I tried reading over that guide but its likely I completely missed it
frozen oyster
Is there a nice energy tick tracker addon? unable to find one on the twitch app
vocal hornet
@frozen oyster mizerok WA kit has it.
frozen oyster
is it on wago? can't seem to find it
hybrid zealot
@mossy adder no api nobody knows the real split
void meteor
are poisons a big dps upgrade when you get to 20?
vocal hornet
weak salmon
Playing classic with WAs though...
upbeat escarp
Is it worth to learn the sword from trainer as soon as u reach 10 ... as it’s kind of expensive 10s... I’ll be leveling mostly solo so the will use the swords build ... just wondering what is a real difference between sword and dagger in main hand in those low levels
fair dust
sword/mace better solo
you spam sinister strike
with dagger backstab is the most dmg but need to be behind your target
weak salmon
You can technically do ok with backstab build, but only if you pull one mob at a time.
Use gouge to get behind the target
gritty goblet
why would you go bstab spec solo lmao
quick sigil
well there is a viable dagger build for leveling but its rough pre-24. taking relentless strikes and getting greater ambush you can do almost 3/4ths of a mobs hp on ambush crit.
maybe even more depending on your level and main hand
vocal hornet
Swords has been great.