classic-discussion

[vocal hornet]

LW for devilsaur 2p is good for rogue main.

[waxen iris]

can you respecc main professions?

[plucky nymph]

Ye.

[waxen iris]

do you lose any progress in the old ones if you do so?

[plucky nymph]

All prog. lost.

Won't need it until like, Naxx anyway.

NEED.

[waxen iris]

need what

[plucky nymph]

LWing sorry

[waxen iris]

i was gonna go skinning + leatherworking is that a good idea?

[marsh wyvern]

Not yet

😉

[waxen iris]

why

the guide recommends skinning + lw

[plucky nymph]

It's what I am doing./

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marsh wyvern]

If skinning and lw floats your boat do it

[plucky nymph]

I will have an alt. for herb/alch

[waxen iris]

herb/alch is good for making consumables?

[plucky nymph]

Yeah and MONEY.

[waxen iris]

ahh

[plucky nymph]

Endless stacks of MONEY.

[waxen iris]

yeab ecause people are gonna need shit tons of consumables

[plucky nymph]

shit tons

[half hearth]

u also need herbalism for your blind ability and stuff tho, right?

[plucky nymph]

Nah can just buy the fadeleaf.

[civic crest]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 5 hours 26 minutes 28 seconds

[half hearth]

when will you level that herbalism alchemy alt and to which lv? 😄

after u hit 60?

[plucky nymph]

After like P3.

[half hearth]

oh k

[plucky nymph]

I probably won't be taking the Rogue into AQ/Naxx.

Who knows.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen iris]

whatr is p3?

[plucky nymph]

https://www.wowclassiccountdown.com/content_plan_pve_and_pvp/

Nice header potato ass website

lol

and by the looks of that I will probably play the Rogue primarily up until P6.

[drowsy phoenix]

im sitting over here being a casual

[plucky nymph]

This is casual :3

Healing is just way more fun in Vanilla than Retail.

So.

Ye.

[waxen iris]

when are they releasing the phases?

[plucky nymph]

Dunno.

Some will take longer than others.

Considering the content released in them.

[half hearth]

I never played Vanilla before but i will put in like 14h+ a day. Hopefully im lv 60 in less than 2 weeks with that

Im still debating about going Human or Dwarf Rogue, Human is better in PvE but in lategame you only Raid once a week and then your Human racial is almost never useful. With Dwarf im stronger in PvP its so hard to decide 😄

[waxen iris]

im going nelf

[half hearth]

nelf has the mnost useless racials so idk 😄

[waxen iris]

I like shadowmeld

[half hearth]

Looks good tho

[plucky nymph]

Looks whack O _O

[waxen iris]

NELF?

[plucky nymph]

Yeah, 120%, looks booty.

The pixels do not bode them well.

[half hearth]

Yo mizerok senpai, Im still debating about going Human or Dwarf Rogue, Human is better in PvE but in lategame you only Raid once a week and then your Human racial is almost never useful. With Dwarf im stronger in PvP its so hard to decide, what would you do?

[waxen iris]

They look the best imo

[half hearth]

I wanted to ho Horde but all my friends wanna go Alliance

[plucky nymph]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Do w/e you wanna do.

[half hearth]

But i dont know what i wanna do

xD

[plucky nymph]

Human :3

[half hearth]

If i go Human can i ever make Daggerspec good tho? 😄

so much to think about my head hurts

[plucky nymph]

No worse than others.

[round oriole]

who has a good swing timer add on i can dl on twitch for classic

or does anyone know where i can get the swing timer addon shown in this Kargoz video: https://youtu.be/AkawrueQYXU

[vivid venture]

When are the new realms opening for naming of chars? 😮

[plucky nymph]

LITTLE LATE FOR THAT O _O

Sometime today?

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 4 hours 55 minutes 49 seconds

[vivid venture]

At 18:00 realms opened up for full naming, I thought the new realms that come out were also opening 😦

[plucky nymph]

That might still be today but I dunnnooooo.

[dusk crystal]

i am prepared to play the queue game

[half hearth]

is there any trick to skip queue? like maybe stay logged in the realm before launch or something?

i rly dont wanna sit in queue for hours xD

[plucky nymph]

What? No, get in queue!!

[dusk crystal]

no

call Ion

[next goblet]

Was there a point when combat rogues were running mh mace/sword, oh dagger?

[shadow tapir]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 4 hours 47 minutes 51 seconds

[hybrid zealot]

That's what they been advising forever today

My sword oh fast dagger for posions

[ruby bridge]

ppl with classic release:

[plucky nymph]

Slow/Fast

[drowsy phoenix]

you cant stop me from getting a smaller queue than you

mankrik babeyyy

[next goblet]

thanks, thats what I thought.

[timid patrol]

fuck firemaw

im switching to morgraine

50% ally 50% horde 0 streamers

its basically old sylvanas server

[half hearth]

where can i check alliance/horde ratio of servers?

[timid patrol]

I linked picture above

im in lol game atm

school up find my name

[cold citrus]

What's wrong with firemaw?

[half hearth]

found it ty

[hybrid zealot]

What did you find?

[half hearth]

server horde/alliance player ratio pic

[vocal hornet]

you think that is real?

[dusk crystal]

not totally accurate likely

[next goblet]

Thats EU servers only though it looks like

[dusk crystal]

doesnt really matter

[half hearth]

yeah well im EU, NA OMEGALUL

[hybrid zealot]

Ya I dont see how that could have been pulled properly

[neat sun]

I hope for an AUTHENTIC CLASSIC EXPERIENCE the server goes down for maintenance and is down for 10 hours

[dusk crystal]

only blizzard knows

[drowsy phoenix]

some people reserved 3 names on one server, others one on 3 servers

[neat sun]

Has Blizzard said whether they'll be skipping the restart tomorrow?

[dusk crystal]

i believe so

there is no reason to restart

[vocal hornet]

wait do rupture ticks crit individually? I swear I remember a time when the Entire dot series would either crit or not.

[neat sun]

I agree, but it's the "authentic classic experience" so things don't have to have a reason behind them

[vocal hornet]

maybe it was early priest dots, where they all crit or none.

or im smoking the crack

[hybrid zealot]

Probably crack

[neat sun]

For a while I think the dot critted as a whole

[vocal hornet]

early vanilla stuff was weird

[neat sun]

But I don't know when

[vocal hornet]

like manual wanding.

[hybrid zealot]

Super early vanilla is very similar to being on crack

Not the addicting part

But I guess that part as well

[neat sun]

I'm probably going to take 2-3 weeks to level, lol

[crisp coral]

So they didn’t increase character limit?

[wind lantern]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 4 hours 26 minutes 40 seconds

[karmic bridge]

Can I have addons downloaded before launch

[silver cove]

ya, they're just the same as people used for the beta

[neat sun]

Okay, so I have the Twitch app, and it's installing in the Classic folder

But, how do I know it's the Classic version of the addon?

[timid patrol]

@cold citrus firemaw gonna have atl east 50k que time

unless u are the luck 0.1%

u aint playing there tonight

or next week

[neat sun]

Honestly, I think most servers will have a queue time

[timid patrol]

all the

known eu pvp streamers are firemaw with their guild "adept"

so will their fanbois will be there to to play with them

[neat sun]

Yeah, NA has a server like that too

[timid patrol]

morgraine has almost no streamers and 50% ally 50% horde feels good man

[drowsy phoenix]

who cares about faction balance when you're not playing pvp

[timid patrol]

I will prolly ditch my friends saying im too sleepy click appear as offline and level in morgraine with total strangers

[neat sun]

^

[drowsy phoenix]

yo

new servers are out and character max got bumped

[karmic bridge]

is there a website that has classic specific addons or does twitch know

[neat sun]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 4 hours 10 minutes 16 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

running a scan using twitch desktop client

I think it's finding a classic folder for addons

[neat sun]

Yeah, it finds it

But does it install the Classic version?

[drowsy phoenix]

it added classic and classic beta upon running scan

[neat sun]

That is where it gets installed

But what version does it install?

I highly doubt Classic addons have 100m downloads

[drowsy phoenix]

it says game version 1.13.2 for details

[neat sun]

Ohh, so I'm only looking for addons with game version of 1.13.2?

[drowsy phoenix]

I believe so

[wraith parcel]

https://willitclassic.com/

As well

[cold citrus]

@timid patrol thanks for the warning

[timid patrol]

monkaW

[karmic bridge]

what are some good questing addons

[orchid ledge]

questie

[neat sun]

Ohhh, there's a WeakAuras for Classic? Nice.

[timid patrol]

I think they backported almost every ui addon for vanilla

[neat sun]

yeah

Honestly, with ElvUI, I'm set with 99% of the shit

I'm 100% using the LFG addon though

People are being so fucking pepega about that one

[karmic bridge]

what addon auto accepts/turn in

[timid patrol]

I will use elvui only for party / raid frames will use dominos and lorti ui instead for my bars / ui

[neat sun]

lorti seems nice

@karmic bridge https://willitclassic.com/view/ejokIz7sUv3NO5vJwFBU

[vocal hornet]

@neat sun looks like that lfg addon got smashed by devs.

[dusk crystal]

it got nuked

[neat sun]

That's fucking stupid

[vocal hornet]

But yeah. WA will cover most all things Ui for me.

[neat sun]

Vanilla WoW's API was so loose you could literally build bots with the code Blizzard gave you access to

And, LFG addons literally existed in Vanilla

[vocal hornet]

RIP Fish bot

[timid patrol]

this is gonna be my ui

[dusk crystal]

were they fully automated like this one

[timid patrol]

black everything

[neat sun]

Pretty sure it was Tacklebox - it was a fishing bot

[vocal hornet]

I was thinking about going restodruid and the bartender rack for down ranked heals made me cringe.

Rank 2 4 6 8 of HT. 1 6 of regrowth 1 6 rejuv

and need clique for all that shit.

[neat sun]

That's sad the devs killed the LFG addon

All it did was parse chat

[drowsy phoenix]

eh

[neat sun]

No "eh"

It's stupid as fuck

[dusk crystal]

no, it automatically made a group

[drowsy phoenix]

"use it or dont" more like screw you anyone without this addon

[neat sun]

Who cares?

[vocal hornet]

It will come back. will just need a few more clicks to make it dance.

[dusk crystal]

that dog shit doesnt belong in classic

[neat sun]

The functionality was in Vanilla - you just didn't know how to program it

Don't be a moron

[drowsy phoenix]

if I dont want to use that addon while other people are, it's gonna ruin my play experience

nothing optional should be necessary

[neat sun]

There was addons that literally auto-queued a 40-man raid for AV

[drowsy phoenix]

and im not using those either

[neat sun]

Great, don't use them

You weren't forced to use it

[vocal hornet]

Once people deal with real LFG for a few months the tension will slide.

[drowsy phoenix]

take some time, talk to people, play the game yourself

[neat sun]

Just like you wouldn't have been forced to use the LFG addon

[vocal hornet]

Agree.

[drowsy phoenix]

just use LFG chat seriously

[vocal hornet]

wait until it takes an hour to fill a 5man at current lvl

[drowsy phoenix]

im not about to get cut off from a whole server community just because I dont have an addon

[neat sun]

You're not getting cut off

You're being a fucking doofus

[vocal hornet]

lol

[drowsy phoenix]

-_-

he doesnt wanna play the game

[vocal hornet]

the game is not jumping in org waiting for a group

[sinful portal]

oh boy

[vocal hornet]

the game is content.

[neat sun]

This isn't "World of LFG Spam".

[drowsy phoenix]

fuck social experiences just have your group of randos

[neat sun]

Because LFG chat isn't randos?

[drowsy phoenix]

WoW 2: also retail

[vocal hornet]

you dont have to pug.

[drowsy phoenix]

I use LFG chat as an alternative general as well, and so do others

[vocal hornet]

can just use your friends list.

[dusk crystal]

if it were allowed to work it would be only a matter of time for it to have ilvl requirements and shit, and everyone who doesnt use it is in a bad position

[drowsy phoenix]

you learn faces

[neat sun]

Your reason for not allowing the addon is because you want to spam chat over and over instead

[dusk crystal]

blizzard reasoning to nuke the addon was good imho

[vocal hornet]

It will come back with a few more required clicks.

dont worry.

[neat sun]

Where's the link to the official response?

[dusk crystal]

anyway what was the cast bar addon

[vocal hornet]

hell it can probably route through a discord server by now.

[drowsy phoenix]

and how tf do I know these addon people are any good im not filling up my groups with shitters

[neat sun]

How does LFG know that

[drowsy phoenix]

you know people

people do things well or not well

[neat sun]

Then don't use it

[vocal hornet]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/classiclfg-addon/263761/10?u=nukecrater-illidan

[drowsy phoenix]

I think that post countered "dont use it" directly

[neat sun]

You make a point, then support it by something that shows you've put literally no logic or reason into the decision

[drowsy phoenix]

then tell me why it should be a thing

[vocal hornet]

addons can do a ton of things. determined by the user.

if they want to make something, they will.

[dusk crystal]

finding a group without any addon will be super easy so doesnt even matter, thats why guild exists and not like theres lack of people

[vocal hornet]

using private chat channels is probably not new.

OK

[dusk crystal]

also there are realm discords now

[drowsy phoenix]

discord I understand because it's just the form of communication people are using outside the game now

it's today's skype/vent/whatever

[neat sun]

**1) Because it was possible to have in Vanilla WoW. **
2) Something like that already exists in the game.
3) It's a far better system than being required to spam the LFG channel in major cities trying to find a group.
4) It doesn't remove any "social" aspects from the game, as spamming LFG provides literally zero social interaction. No one "gets to know you" in your LFG post.

[drowsy phoenix]

In line with what we shared at BlizzCon last year, we intend to be very careful about allowing add-on functionality that might undermine aspects of the social dynamics that are core to the Classic experience, even in cases like this where it’s clear that the addon author had no ill intent and was simply trying to provide a service to the Classic community. Ultimately, if a streamlined group-finding system was something we considered compatible with Classic, we would have kept the modern Premade Group Finder tool rather than choosing to remove it from the Classic client.

even if it was possible in vanilla, blizz seems to be against it in the first place

[neat sun]

Blizzard was against Classic in the first place

[dusk crystal]

hacks were possible in vanilla too

should we have those back

[drowsy phoenix]

not everyone is J. Allen Brack, some people wanted it

[wraith parcel]

Doesnt matter what you think tbh

Blizzard has said their stance on it and acted

[neat sun]

Functionality provided by the AddOn API != hacks - stop being a doofus

[dusk crystal]

done is done, it wont change so talking about it is irrelevant

[neat sun]

No shit - this is a place for discussion

[drowsy phoenix]

lol they're modifying the API so it cant happen anyway

[neat sun]

I'm discussing my opinion

[drowsy phoenix]

they probably would have done that in vanilla too if it lasted longer

[dusk crystal]

cant compare it really now

dont think there were near as much users for such an addon back then

[neat sun]

yes there were

[shadow tapir]

Is there a way to tell what realms are going to be the most overpopulated?

[drowsy phoenix]

blizz doesnt want a dungeon finder-like tool in classic so it's not happening

[vocal hornet]

wager 1$ a fully functional group finder will be supported within a month.

[drowsy phoenix]

@shadow tapir do you mean in terms of which is more full?

[vocal hornet]

just need to click the minimum amount to be acceptable

[drowsy phoenix]

or just low-full

[shadow tapir]

Most full

Just so I can decide what to try and queue for

[vocal hornet]

gl

you didnt get one on pagle ?

[neat sun]

Yeah, I'm curious if I'll even be able to play tonight

[drowsy phoenix]

I know servers like mankrik and atiesh are far less full than f a e r l i n a

[vocal hornet]

I have a guy on furlina just incase. But doubt ill do pvp

[shadow tapir]

Hmm ok fair enough

I was going to play on Faerlina but I know I won’t get on for awhile

[drowsy phoenix]

bloodsail buccaneers is still only at high so I might give RP realm a shot

[neat sun]

I have characters on all of the Normal servers I believe.

I don't care where I go - I'm rolling solo

[shadow tapir]

Doesn’t matter where I made characters though right? Can always just make them later?

[drowsy phoenix]

I know chat trolls are drawn to grobbulus

might make a toon there even though pacific

[vocal hornet]

I havent been in /1 general since like 2005.

[drowsy phoenix]

my /1 is LookingForGroup

[vocal hornet]

gonna be sad if I have to talk to people again.

[drowsy phoenix]

trade sucks general is dead

[neat sun]

Yeah, first thing I do is leave General chat

[vocal hornet]

lol i keed, but not really.

we have raiders that intentionally shitpost /general

during raid . they think it is hilarious.

[neat sun]

We used to kick those people

[drowsy phoenix]

boooo

[vocal hornet]

only people in general left are ones that like that banter.

[drowsy phoenix]

no love for trolls in this cold world

[neat sun]

Back on Burning Legion there was also a ERP channel that people used during raids.. So go figure

[drowsy phoenix]

moon guard pog

[vocal hornet]

E R P?

oh mai

[drowsy phoenix]

MOON GUARD POG TIME

[neat sun]

It was mostly 12 year olds saying, "Ima eat that booty"

but to other dudes

[drowsy phoenix]

21 year olds*

pretending to be 12 for funny points

[neat sun]

I had a 14 year old who was in charge of healers back in TBC

His house got raided by the FBI mid-raid

[drowsy phoenix]

[neat sun]

Yeah, his dad was working with some company that was doing real estate fraud

And the higher ups fucked him

[drowsy phoenix]

proof early wow was better

I have made 5 characters, 3 night elves and 2 trolls, all of which are rogues

[vocal hornet]

One of our raiders house caught on fire, mid raid.

literally said "afk fire"

[plucky nymph]

lol

[vocal hornet]

as a Back to the Future kid. I appreciate this.

[neat sun]

We had an officer that played a "fire alarm" clip in the middle of the raid and said someone pulled the fire alarm in their dorm

He just wanted to go out and used it as an excuse

[vocal hornet]

"Rupture cant crit till wrath" well that kills my sub rupture build.

imagine stacking crit for backstab, but it doesnt work for your finishers

[neat sun]

It bypasses armor - so it's good against warriors/pallies

[vocal hornet]

I was thinking about cleave damage tabbing ruptures.

[urban rapids]

No frontstabs?

[neat sun]

frontstabbing is harder in pvp, IMO

[vocal hornet]

but if it is legit worse, Ill just tab evisc. (for threat spread)

[neat sun]

you can't do that

[urban rapids]

No I mean can we still strafe n front stab pve

[neat sun]

combo points are per target

[urban rapids]

Or was it patched

[hazy dune]

patched

wasn't working on the beta

no front stabbing

[plucky nymph]

Back to pServers

[neat sun]

ugh

3 hours to nap

or naw

bah, I have too much to do... Off to clean 😦

[dusk crystal]

front stab never worked in vanilla, just private

[vocal hornet]

what if. You stabbed things in the back.

big if on the cheapshot backstab

[weak salmon]

The server I wanted to play on realeased right as my game time ended

[plucky nymph]

Good news, you can still play on it.

[weak salmon]

Can't get more time cause blizz servers can't handle 😄

[plucky nymph]

gl

O _O

[dusk crystal]

over an hour left of tentacleman

[crimson dust]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 3 hours 0 minutes 27 seconds

[vocal hornet]

anyone here play Druid in Vanilla?

wondering about farming dps as resto spec. Worried about farming righteous orbs or herbs and not being able to kill stuff.

priest was a major bitch unless you went shadow.

[spark ocean]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 2 hours 46 minutes 45 seconds

[neat sun]

I have a female friend I'm talking into playing Druid @vocal hornet. She plays Runescape but never played WoW

[dusk crystal]

yea only poison on OH

instant p

[drowsy phoenix]

wf?

that sounds like a shaman thing

having a hurr durr moment help me out

[plucky nymph]

That's a shaman thing.

[drowsy phoenix]

so MH cant get windfury procs if it;s poisoned?

so for ally, poison main hand

[vocal hornet]

@hidden gazelle mainhand poison or windfury not both

double poison. we dont have shamans.

right

you asked the question lol

@neat sun Default raid frames with advanced raid frame buffs. frames are so much nicer now than vanilla.

[neat sun]

I'm not even getting backstab

I'll never use daggers until 60 for PvP

[drowsy phoenix]

it's nice to doink on low hp mobs

just keep a dagger in inventory and swap during combat if you want

[neat sun]

yeah, I just don't want to mess with it.

I'm only rolling swords until 60 - then once I get a full int set I'll level my weapon skills

[gritty goblet]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 2 hours 26 minutes 49 seconds

[plucky nymph]

AQ+ but close enough.

[neat sun]

Honestly, not really even then

Daggers are worth it if you're rocking dal rends and get Perdy

But once you get something better, it's no longer worth it again

[tough pilot]

swords for life

(unless in pvp)

[neat sun]

I've played Combat basically my entire time as a Rogue, and I don't regret it. There was an xpac or two where I wasn't, but modern day sub is just so shit. I know it was the best for a while, but fuck that. I went ASN

[plucky nymph]

No ❌

That's literally not a thing.

Seal Fate only works in Naxx.

Combat Daggers worked before that.

Yes, as good as Swords, but not until AQ+ as daggers were kiiiiiiiiinda doodoo until then.

I am telling you that you're in line for a TF.

[neat sun]

You'll never get TF offhand though

[plucky nymph]

Back to pServers ~_~

[drowsy phoenix]

daggers
more like
casting thrown on repeat while the warrior cries

[plucky nymph]

That's nice.

So did I.

[neat sun]

You have a better chance of double teaming Michelle Obama with Putin than you do getting TF

[plucky nymph]

Three times.

You're in line.

[unreal cave]

If I'm looking to do both PVE and PVP content, does it make sense to go swords or daggers?

[neat sun]

Daggers is fine - unless you just REALLY want to be #1 DPS in 15 year old content

No one needs to be 100% optimal

[unreal cave]

why start now?

So daggers is viable for raiding then? Cause it sounds super fun for PVP.

[neat sun]

Yes, you can 100% raid as combat daggers or assassination

Because not everyone cares about their e-dick size

Some people just like to have fun

Who knew?

[plucky nymph]

o _O

[neat sun]

It's not being bad

It's playing a sub-optimal spec

[unreal cave]

I just want to have a spec that I can do pvp and raid on and not have to respec all the time. I don't care if it's BiS or not.

[neat sun]

Not everyone gives a shit

It's okay

[plucky nymph]

Listen, if someone wants to gatekeep your fucking gameplay tellem to take a hike you're not interested.

[sinful portal]

anyone have one of those skills cheatlist for rogue leveling

[unreal cave]

I'll prolly go combat daggers.

[neat sun]

Shit, play Sub if you want

Find a way to make it work

If you like it, stay that way

If you don't, switch

This is a 14 year old game. Worrying about being optimized is just being a doofus

Who gives a shit

If you want to be big-dick of WoW Classic, that's fine.

Not everyone is like you

[plucky nymph]

Doesn't matter.

❌

[untold granite]

if subs more fun ill play sub

[neat sun]

15 years later and people still think that being the best is the only way to play the game

https://tenor.com/view/lord-help-me-judge-judy-facepalm-gif-12371798

[mint isle]

Quick question : if I delete a character on a full server to free the name, can I create a new character on the same server right after ?

[neat sun]

It's more fun for you

[plucky nymph]

Should be able to.

[shadow tapir]

I think its more that people enjoy doing their best

[neat sun]

My dog thinks licking his asshole is one of the most fun things in the world to do

[shadow tapir]

Thats what fun to them

[neat sun]

Do you lick your own butthole?

Because if not, my dog thinks you're no fun

See how stupid your logic is?

[untold granite]

if i like it?? fck the 39

[plucky nymph]

Man, imagine trying to have FUN and some douche gatekeeping your fun in a 15 year old game O _O

Imagine.

[neat sun]

Imagine trying to have fun and being told that someone else's fun is a more important use of your time than your own enjoyment

[drowsy phoenix]

im going to pick every talent I want

[untold granite]

i play a rogue with a bow if i like and you cant tell me not to

[drowsy phoenix]

and that includes dodge chance

[neat sun]

"viable"

[obsidian jay]

who cares

[neat sun]

You can 30-man Naxx in Naxx gear

Your concept of viable is dumb af

[obsidian jay]

We're not at the point of raids

Why does it matter

[untold granite]

to have fun??

[neat sun]

Bro - it's okay for others to not enjoy the same thing as you

[plucky nymph]

ima play Hemo swords and still beat you o _O I will take that warlock DoT slots

[shadow tapir]

[neat sun]

no

[plucky nymph]

I am not sure that's going to matter my dood.

Ever.

[drowsy phoenix]

raiding

lul

[neat sun]

Everyone could play a complete dumbass spec and still clear up to Huhuron

[obsidian jay]

[neat sun]

You doofus

[untold granite]

anyways gl in classic and i wish you all no queues at all

[plucky nymph]

Pretty sure you can clear Vanilla raids with 31 pts. spent.

Because people were shit.

or didn't care.

[neat sun]

Most people don't care

[plucky nymph]

o _o

[neat sun]

Great

Then they won't do it

Who gives a fuck

Dude

[vocal hornet]

@hidden gazelle started rogue in late Bc.
Mained Priest. Shm. Hpal. Rogue. Hpal.

[neat sun]

What server are you going on lum?

[plucky nymph]

oof

[neat sun]

I want to make sure I stay as far away from you as possible

[plucky nymph]

Gatekeeping and flexing.

The duo.

[neat sun]

right?

[molten forge]

How about uhh

[plucky nymph]

Has this channel had to have someone fucking purged yet?

[midnight gust]

Can we chill

[molten forge]

Ending the conversation instead

[vocal hornet]

Orange muscle.

[plucky nymph]

Do what you want, if someone wants to Gatekeep your fun, fuck them.

[neat sun]

@fluid galleon You around? @hidden gazelle neeeds a talkin to

[vocal hornet]

Being a dick is not recommended.

[warped flint]

Not sure thats what youre doing mate

[molten forge]

Pinging stjern

[fluid galleon]

Play nice

last and final warning

:)

[neat sun]

Stjern will be fine with the ping. I've gotten in trouble enough to know

[drowsy phoenix]

I played outlaw all of legion and I was still good damage bc you know, not top tryhard prog

anyone can top meters

[loud tree]

We all love Classic WoW. just do whatever you want and not worry about others

[fluid galleon]

Hey, wanna see a magic trick?

[leaden trail]

so hyped

[fluid galleon]

Boom

[molten forge]

filtered word

[loud tree]

[molten forge]

[drowsy phoenix]

shadow hits filter

8/26/2019

[fluid galleon]

Now that's been said - play nice.

[neat sun]

Sorry @vocal hornet - you asked me a question earlier. What were you looking for again?

[vocal hornet]

Honestly. Just hype.

[neat sun]

hah

I'm excited too. I wish old dungeons were worth farming for gold though. It's still a good way to powerlevel though if you have a pally

[vocal hornet]

Still on the fence druid resto and rogue.

[obsidian jay]

Be the Chad Paladin player everyone wants

[vocal hornet]

We have a prott.

He is getting thinderfugy.

Ok. I'm driving.

[neat sun]

Pallies are insanely great power levelers

[obsidian jay]

$$$$

[neat sun]

Ret aura + conc + shield spike, their AoE gets nutty

They can clear Stockades in 2-3 pulls, similar to PLing back in WoD and things.

[vocal hornet]

I honestly want the least amount of work. If that is rogue cause they can solo grind and farm and dps and pvp in the same gear /spec. That is good for me.

[neat sun]

Yeah, Rogues can do it all - we're just super slow leveling

Hunters are the best overall - but they aren't the best DPS in raids

[raven snow]

addons for classic?

[vocal hornet]

Feral build level is supposed to be insane self sustain and can heal 5s just by switching int gear.

[neat sun]

Looks like a LOT of addons have been finished for Classic - so look into what you're already using

yeah, Feral is great, Druids just aren't the best tanks end-game

[vocal hornet]

I would heal endgame

[neat sun]

Since they can't block, they get crushed

[vocal hornet]

Or rogue.

Ah. They can't get crush off the table.

[neat sun]

Yeah, that wasn't until TBC(?)

[vocal hornet]

Oom pally can't use holy shield either lol

But that's not my problem.

I want easy groups and easy farming.

[neat sun]

Pallies will be the best scholo/UD strat tanks

[vocal hornet]

Lvl race is not necessary. Just don't want to be burning coin respeccong twice a week.

[neat sun]

But no one will use them

[vocal hornet]

You can take a pally if he is guild lead and you build around him. We will have warriors on roster.

[neat sun]

Pallies will be far faster tanks in strat/scholo than a warrior, though

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 1 hours 57 minutes 58 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

all I see is 1 hour

[vocal hornet]

Guess I should decide.

!rtb

[neat sun]

Didn't the 5-Pally team do the Undead Strat run in like 17 minutes or something crazy?

[vocal hornet]

Decision has been made. I'll be rogue. If we need need a healer. They can fucking PL me

Boom.

Besides. It may pressure /shame someone else to do it .

[neat sun]

Play what you want

[vocal hornet]

Rtb told me I was to be melee.

It shall be so.

[obsidian jay]

Wheeldecide for optimal choice making

[vocal hornet]

All signs point to no.

[neat sun]

Ugh, I play this "idle" mobile game and the most recent update won't allow it to stay open while plugged in

So my phone's screen turns it off

RIP

[wind lantern]

SOON

[neat sun]

Now's a good time to figure out what server I'm going on to...

I'm definitely going PvE

[wind lantern]

AS A ROGUE?

[neat sun]

Yup

[mental wraith]

Ew

[wind lantern]

wow

disgusting and shameful

[neat sun]

I've done roaming PvP for 15 years

[mental wraith]

That’s what wow classic is

[neat sun]

I'm married, have a wife that doesn't play

[wind lantern]

divorce

[neat sun]

naw

[mental wraith]

Get rid of her

[neat sun]

I'm good

[vocal hornet]

@neat sun yeah. My wife still like "I can't believe you still pay 15$ for a game"

[neat sun]

Even the PvE servers will have plenty of roam

[vocal hornet]

Note, we have PLENTY of dollars to go around.

She still thinks I'm a nerd.

[neat sun]

You are a nerd

We all are

[vocal hornet]

So I remind her that she watched all 27 seasons of Grey's anatomy.

And she watches all the kardasian spinniffs.

[neat sun]

Yeah, my wife will be watching Outdaugtered tonight

[vocal hornet]

Kid goes to bed at 8p. Then I'm up till my eyes bleed.

Hopefully 12 or so.

Lvl 12

[neat sun]

I'm off all week, but don't plan on going super hard. I'm hoping to be 45 or so by Monday

[vocal hornet]

Might trick her though. If server is unstable go to bed early. And wake up at 4a

Not much spare time these days.

[mellow sequoia]

I told my gf I’m afk from life for the week

[neat sun]

lol

[obsidian jay]

Grey's is great how dare.

[vocal hornet]

Used all our Vaca going to Seattle for 9days.

[neat sun]

My wife's only thing was, "Feed the cats and put away laundry

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 1 hours 42 minutes 16 seconds

[ruby bridge]

less then 2 h

[obsidian jay]

[neat sun]

I'm just glad I got my D3 Season Journey finished

Finished that last night

[loud tree]

Cozy leveling

[unreal cave]

Is combat daggers still good for pvp or do you need those sub traits?

[neat sun]

Hmmm

Is there anywhere I can see horde:alliance ratios on classic from reserved names?

I'd hate to go to a horde dominated server if I'm rolling alliance

[sinful portal]

yeah wanted to check that too

if anyone knows please let me know

[neat sun]

I've heard people talk about it, but I don't know if they are just pulling things out of their ass or not

[drowsy phoenix]

SOON

[neat sun]

I've also heard about realm-specific Discords

[drowsy phoenix]

I love how they went from 3 hours to SOON

[neat sun]

But I don't know how to find those

[thorny halo]

Can you feel it? That static in the air

[vocal hornet]

Names

ez

[plucky nymph]

lol

[hidden basin]

how did you make so many characters?

[vocal hornet]

it is time

forgot Noobeshot. my hunter

[plucky nymph]

What a moron.

Name restriction was removed earlier today.

[neat sun]

Was it?

Are you gatekeeping knowledge over here

[hidden basin]

oh ok

[neat sun]

I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA

[hidden basin]

cool

[drowsy phoenix]

no you just have to log in to classic client

[plucky nymph]

Keeping blueposts in my POCKET.

[hidden basin]

not america

[drowsy phoenix]

dont be lazy

I didnt even check bluepost I just went into classic and was like "oh damn nice"

[neat sun]

I literally have it open

and didn't notice

lol

[drowsy phoenix]

[hidden basin]

shit should've tried logging in earlier

i'm 7k in queue now, rip

[drowsy phoenix]

wait is it really queue time

[hidden basin]

yeah

[hidden basin]

thought you can't play

[drowsy phoenix]

shoulda stayed logged in an hour ago

[hidden basin]

but forgot you can log in to your character screen

[vocal hornet]

nice feet

[neat sun]

Okay, fuck it

I'm going alliance on Pagle I guess 😕

[drowsy phoenix]

alright we out here waiting on mankrik

[fallow glen]

nice

[drowsy phoenix]

are you EU

[hidden basin]

ye

[drowsy phoenix]

ah

[hidden basin]

US queues must be way bigger

[drowsy phoenix]

NA is clean atm

[hidden basin]

clean?

[drowsy phoenix]

I got in like that

[hidden basin]

but its' peak in US

wtf

it's midnight here

almost

[plucky nymph]

2bad

[drowsy phoenix]

probably because more people on at midnight

[hidden basin]

no one has a job in eu

[drowsy phoenix]

work day not done for some NA peeps

between 5:30 and 6:00 it's gonna skyrocket

[hidden basin]

you have a point

[neat sun]

yeah

I'm off all week, or I wouldn't even be signing in until an hour after it launches

[gritty goblet]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 1 hours 5 minutes 4 seconds

[plucky nymph]

o _o

uhhhh, There's an Ability coming in... 2min

[vocal hornet]

PREPARE TO DECURSE

[plucky nymph]

decurse this

uGohere

[neat sun]

noice

[fallow veldt]

I'm glad I didn't log out

[vocal hornet]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 59 minutes 53 seconds

[plucky nymph]

WIFF

[drowsy phoenix]

0 hours?

you know what that means

we have to start catching five minute intervals

[dusk crystal]

[drowsy phoenix]

tbf if highlights every "classic"

[vocal hornet]

nvm yeah.

it ignored the !

[neat sun]

damnit!

fearwardbot is unavailable for my dwarf priest

[drowsy phoenix]

it appears to be condensed within the first 5 pages then the bot misses days at a time

[ruby bridge]

^ i guess thats true already

[raven snow]

we need to get triasning for swords right

training*

[drowsy phoenix]

im not even going to risk checking realms again

I stay on mankrik

[neat sun]

Yeah, I'm on Pagle

lol

[ruby bridge]

ib4 everyone d/c's once its live

[neat sun]

The true Vanilla experience was Illidan being down 3-4 days a week

[plucky nymph]

and when it wasn't you zoomed around on the ground bent over trying to loot for 2 hours.

[neat sun]

Honestly, I didn't give a shit about server when I first started

So why do I care now?

[drowsy phoenix]

queue times babeyyy

also im hella ready for mankrik to be a joke server

[dusk crystal]

14mins only lul

14k on queue to shazz

[drowsy phoenix]

EU

[raven snow]

we need sword training right?

just confirming

[neat sun]

right

[raven snow]

from archibald in UC?

[neat sun]

Well, depends what race you start I believe

[raven snow]

oh

[neat sun]

Don't humans/orcs start with swords?

[raven snow]

well UD

lol

[silver cove]

firemaw has like a 4 hour queue already

[neat sun]

yikes

[dusk crystal]

how many in que

[raven snow]

firemaw baby

[neat sun]

gdamn

[fair carbon]

[drowsy phoenix]

tw realms

wait im thinking of crit

[fair carbon]

Do be aware that servers will reset in about 10 minutes

[drowsy phoenix]

say sike

fere

[fair carbon]

I’m not kidding

[drowsy phoenix]

you can say sike at any time

[fair carbon]

So hastily log in around 5:35 EST

I’m not kidding

[drowsy phoenix]

where is this information sourced from

[fair carbon]

An announcement

[neat sun]

I'm just making new characters every 10 or so minutes so I don't get bounced

[fair carbon]

No bluepost though

[neat sun]

errr

wut

that is going to suck

[drowsy phoenix]

will I get ejected from login screen instantly when it goes down

[fair carbon]

Yes

You’ll have to restart the client

[drowsy phoenix]

good I dont wanna be punished with a late delay for being in here

[neat sun]

That blows

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 37 minutes 55 seconds

[vocal hornet]

que is big, but Its probably just a traffic jam. no one is actually going in

[neat sun]

So.. We gotta get ready to requeue in about 10 minutes?

[drowsy phoenix]

true

[lavish berry]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 36 minutes 12 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

I have details and wowhead looter

idk what other addons I may need

[lavish berry]

I have to go out in 30 minutes

[neat sun]

Ohhh, wowhead looter. I should get that.

[lavish berry]

[drowsy phoenix]

want* I should add

[lavish berry]

tbh... probs better to play later

so idon't have to worry about the 90 people attacking wolves

[drowsy phoenix]

ME WANT PLAY GAME UNGA

[neat sun]

With layering, I think it'll be fine no matter what

[drowsy phoenix]

ME KILL YOUNG NIGHTSABER

[vocal hornet]

poke dat ass

[neat sun]

Who knows

[lavish berry]

stress test was fun cos i just kept sniping peoples' wolves

[vocal hornet]

I have google fiber. so my ping is way better than most. I can usually get the first stab in.

[neat sun]

Do we start with throwing weapons?

[raven snow]

does anyone know if im good for the queue if i got in before it? i got to character screen at 5:05 on Thalnos

[vocal hornet]

no

actually idk

[raven snow]

do i have my spot?

[drowsy phoenix]

I believe you get a stack of throwns

200 or so

[vocal hornet]

I did beta and it was wonk. I just had to stealth and jab shit on the spawn

[neat sun]

If we start with throw and a weapon, we're Gucci

[lavish berry]

its really cool how my region has one server

so most likely I won't be able to log in when i get home

[drowsy phoenix]

wish pistol shot was there bc it's hitscan instead of projectile

[vocal hornet]

there is a guide on how to lvl to 5 with exploration and quest delivery

[drowsy phoenix]

outlaw is short range tag king

I havent been kicked out yet

is it happening at like 5:30 sharp?

@fair carbon

[raven snow]

shouldnt we have our spot if we get kicked

[fair carbon]

Yes

Should be

[vocal hornet]

que boss. very vanilla tbh

sad. but we have live raid tomorrow.

once we kill queen bee. ill get to 🚪 for a few months.

[fair carbon]

Just say you're sick

Ah

Not 5:30

5:35

Just relog as fast as you can

[drowsy phoenix]

and I need to restart client why

cant I just log in again

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 29 minutes 14 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

[vocal hornet]

pour one out for whoever this is.

[drowsy phoenix]

argument that happened in here today

[vocal hornet]

he was a guy. Now a gonner.

[drowsy phoenix]

we got a shadow to hit chat filter

[vocal hornet]

🇷 🇮 🇵

[lavish berry]

Time to roll Balance druid 😎

[vocal hornet]

sterjn rage

[drowsy phoenix]

ya

[plucky nymph]

He'll come get you for spelling his name wrong O _O

[vocal hornet]

pewpew balance

fine

[drowsy phoenix]

sturn

waiting for servers to boot me so I can relog is more exciting than retail

[vocal hornet]

cant wait for my box. Get another pair of bracers.

[drowsy phoenix]

the world hasnt kicked me out yet

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 25 minutes 1 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

rip

it's 5:35 come on something happen

[fair carbon]

[drowsy phoenix]

fere

I stg

[lavish berry]

Hey guys

is the Icy Veins guide for balance correct?

[drowsy phoenix]

I see your question

and

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 23 minutes 41 seconds

[lavish berry]

:starfire:

[drowsy phoenix]

@fair carbon how could you tell such dirty lies

im still in

[fair carbon]

If its any consolation

I logged

So if anything I guess I got memed on

[drowsy phoenix]

I guess it's big brain time then

[topaz knoll]

So what can i do to prep before the server come online? Is it too late to prep now?

[neat sun]

I think it's hilarious that Classic shows they are doing maintenance tomorrow

I'm still in.. Do I need to log out?

[drowsy phoenix]

I would say stay logged in

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 18 minutes 46 seconds

[lavish berry]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 18 minutes 37 seconds

[vocal hornet]

that seems high

[neat sun]

I took: stabsfordays, healsfordays, tanksfordays, dotsfordays, etc

on a whole server

[dusk crystal]

just wait

till people can play

[drowsy phoenix]

people are gonna stop watching so that they can play, otherwise they watch stream in queue

[neat sun]

I'm debating whether or not I should multibox so I can just heal my rogue.. lol

[dusk crystal]

na, they will be in que

majority anyway

[neat sun]

That's okay

Even 5-10 levels lower, a druid tossing dots on you is insane

[vocal hornet]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 12 minutes 24 seconds

[vocal hornet]

/startattack
/cast Sinister Strike

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 8 minutes 54 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

HYPEHYPEHYPE

[ruby bridge]

lets go, do we get 1 mio ?

[drowsy phoenix]

hopefully

[neat sun]

shit

My wife wants me to cook dinner

[plucky nymph]

POPCORN DINNER IT IS

[ruby bridge]

microwave pizza

[neat sun]

eww

fuck no

I wouldn't feed microwave pizza to anyone

[drowsy phoenix]

YOU EAT LATER FOOL
I LOG IN NOW

[neat sun]

I'm not eating

[drowsy phoenix]

no im telling you what to say

[neat sun]

naw

She lets me have sex with her

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 4 minutes 57 seconds

[neat sun]

So I'm nice to her

[drowsy phoenix]

but you have wow

you need to get your priorities straight

[neat sun]

Yeah, WoW will still be here in 20 minutes.

[drowsy phoenix]

[neat sun]

I do. Cooking her dinner lets me keep half of my money, and allows me to have sex tonight.

[fair carbon]

910k+ viewers on twitch

[neat sun]

m'eh

[drowsy phoenix]

as soon as I log in, it's /join LookingForGroup

[gray patio]

Asmon has like over 100K viewers lol

[fair carbon]

Didn't he have over 200k?

[drowsy phoenix]

time to fire up meme chat

[wraith parcel]

Its like 192k

[gray patio]

Shit man

Asmon King on Twitch confirmed

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 2 minutes 36 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

FUCKING

[plucky nymph]

King of Shit... really...

[drowsy phoenix]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

LETS GO COME ON CLASSIC

https://classic.wowhead.com/news=294723/pre-launch-classic-wow-server-queue-times-us-oc?webhook

wowhead post for queue times btw

im waiting

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 0 minutes 59 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

0 minutes left

we're making milestones here

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 0 minutes 30 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 0 minutes 15 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 0 days 0 hours 0 minutes 3 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

IT HAPPENED A SECOND EARLY

LOGGING IN BABY

[ruby bridge]

so, its open

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic live since: 1 days 1 hours 2 minutes 25 seconds

[ruby bridge]

🤔 sth seems wrong with the calculation there

[lavish berry]

damn

they tricked us

been up for a day

[drowsy phoenix]

im not lagging youre lagging

it let me enter LFG chat but nobody can use it it seems

[lavish berry]

ur a nelf right?

r u playing rungo?

[ruby bridge]

1 mio boys, the hype is real

[drowsy phoenix]

me play night elf rungo bungo yea

whenever I send a message in LFG it disconnects me from chat server

guess they dont want it up

atm

[lavish berry]

they don't want the thing that makes too many people in one place bareable?

I guess u can just yell at people nearby

[drowsy phoenix]

thjink chat server is too buggy to handle it atm

[ruby bridge]

chat server is down i think

and the experience is very laggy

successful launch i guess

[wraith parcel]

tfw world server is down

But only for NEs apparently

On my server that is

[drowsy phoenix]

that's mega rip

[ruby bridge]

true launch experience 🎉

we got:
✅ long login queues
✅ laggy servers
✅ server crash

[proven nexus]

How long do u think this is gonna be lol

Worse than wod?

[drowsy phoenix]

LFG CHAT WORKING

im the only one in it though

[ruby bridge]

i mean they got layering in, but still launch is a massive ddos to the servers

[fair carbon]

I'm in limbo between 703 and 702

[drowsy phoenix]

brb selling all the contents of my bags again

[neat sun]

okay, I'm in

True vanilla experience.. I'm stuck on the bluebar boss

World server is down.. lol

At least it's authentic

[waxen iris]

is there layering?

[drowsy phoenix]

yeah

[waxen iris]

queue is frozen for me

stuck at 3400

for like 2 hours

[neat sun]

I got bluebarred for a good 15 minutes.

Keeps saying World Server is down

[waxen iris]

is eu servers down?

[neat sun]

Not sure, I'm NA

I can't get into Pagle

[drowsy phoenix]

MANKRIK BOYZ