#classic-discussion | Ravenholdt | Page 18

fair carbon Aug 18, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Only if you have space

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Or your RL tells you to

dusk crystal Aug 18, 2019, 8:29 PM

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doubtful

pallid vigil Aug 18, 2019, 9:10 PM

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what are some good rogue leveling builds using daggersfor pvp?

plucky iron Aug 18, 2019, 9:19 PM

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lol

dusk crystal Aug 18, 2019, 9:28 PM

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u can't use axe

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couldn't until wotlk im pretty sure

pallid vigil Aug 18, 2019, 9:48 PM

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im acutally thinking of dropping MOD and going full into opportunity for leveling

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This seems a little odd as a pvp/leveling build with daggers.

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https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/305320115001-32030320205001-05022

Wowhead

Classic Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Talent Calculator for Classic World of Warcraft. Theorycraft, plan, and share your Classic character builds for all nine original classes.

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Seems odd to level with daggers to begin with, but OK.

pallid vigil Aug 18, 2019, 9:55 PM

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how much does respeccing cost

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Scales

pallid vigil Aug 18, 2019, 9:57 PM

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scales for each purchase yeah?

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Yeah I think the first is it free or under 10s.

pallid vigil Aug 18, 2019, 9:59 PM

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I likely wont be solo leveling so swords isnt really a big deal

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https://classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/rogue/305320103-3203052020540100031-03

Wowhead

Classic Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Talent Calculator for Classic World of Warcraft. Theorycraft, plan, and share your Classic character builds for all nine original classes.

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I guess it doesn't make too much sense tho

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since this is more a max level build lol

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I guess the earliest you can get blade flurry is level 30

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if you b-line for it

sinful shoal Aug 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 23 hours 48 minutes 43 seconds

vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:39 PM

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@plucky nymph Human rogue blacksmith gets that stun hammer? or is that bc

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:40 PM

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TBC had the BS BSing patterns.

vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:40 PM

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I really really dont want to respec a lot. and combat seems pretty smooth.

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ugh

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:40 PM

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There are some other maces in Vanilla though.

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this exists

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Probably not what you meant.

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Though still very good wtf is that 8 seconds buuuullshit

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is very good

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signal ember Aug 18, 2019, 10:42 PM

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BIS

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:44 PM

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not better than the T.Bros hammer, but w/e

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vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:44 PM

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was looking at shadowpanther, and it has lots of good info. Did you know he assigns Wotf to be worth 60 agi.

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Rogues can't use axes > _>

signal ember Aug 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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until Wrath

vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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ah.

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Until like, ICC.

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VERY on your own.

fair carbon Aug 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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feelskek

vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:45 PM

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I was holy priest until mid nax.

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:46 PM

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Makes sense.

vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:47 PM

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whaddap nerd

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fair carbon Aug 18, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Benediction pogyou

vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:48 PM

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I had to murder a man to get that red scale trinket

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I had to murder someone to go Enhancement

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vocal hornet Aug 18, 2019, 10:50 PM

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I hard swapped to horde enhance after my very very sad exit in naxx.

plucky nymph Aug 18, 2019, 10:50 PM

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, <

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Best part about Classic, I get muh mohawk back angery

fair carbon Aug 18, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Best part about classic. I actually get to play Horde

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I get to play as one of the BONE PEOPLE

vocal hornet Aug 19, 2019, 1:12 AM

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How would a rogue aoe without bladeflurry? Tab ruptures?

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2min CD for 15 sec seems pretty weak compared to warrior cleave.

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 1:13 AM

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No.

vocal hornet Aug 19, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Cleave whirlwind sweeping strikes. That's a lot of stuff. I assume dps warriors peeled a lot and died.

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Yeah they could.

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Still tanky due to plate and having defensive options.

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After your tank has a Thunderfury though there's little chance of ever pulling any trash off of him.

tough pilot Aug 19, 2019, 2:24 AM

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lol to that guy who think leveling with daggers in a group is no big deal. doing less damage then you would with swords increases the time you and your group do dungeons and quests. If you arent going for speed then i guess thats no big deal, but if you're trying to hit 60 anytime soon, then you have to use swords.

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You're legit sacrificing a huge amount of damage and time by choosing to level with daggers.

vocal hornet Aug 19, 2019, 2:24 AM

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I have read some really weird guides today

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one said that shadow was top tier pve dps.

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🚪

tough pilot Aug 19, 2019, 2:25 AM

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The best pve build for for leveling out the gates and first tier is basic cookie cutter combat sword builds.

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There just arent any good daggers until later tiers to compete with swords. It's just fact.

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So unless you always want to do less damage, then you're gonna be pretty much forced to go swords.

vocal hornet Aug 19, 2019, 2:28 AM

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lol riposte is a 6sec cd.

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does a standard combat leveler fighting stuff a few levels low, kill ezpz?

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someone was making it sound like I need a healer for solo content, and that cant be right

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lol vigor doesnt increase energy gain, but +10e

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wtf

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Ye

dusk crystal Aug 19, 2019, 7:17 AM

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vigor is for those mad pvp combos xd

sand cipher Aug 19, 2019, 7:21 AM

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you dont need a healer for solo content, but later on you may need to cripple kite mobs

soft hornet Aug 19, 2019, 11:35 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 11:35 AM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 10 hours 24 minutes 2 seconds

devout pendant Aug 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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almost a week left

drowsy phoenix Aug 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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go go go

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 6 hours 18 minutes 10 seconds

fair carbon Aug 19, 2019, 3:46 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 3:46 PM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 6 hours 13 minutes 22 seconds

fair carbon Aug 19, 2019, 3:46 PM

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5 minutes pogu

half solar Aug 19, 2019, 5:53 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 5:53 PM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 4 hours 6 minutes 22 seconds

dry birch Aug 19, 2019, 6:25 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 6:25 PM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 3 hours 34 minutes 42 seconds

hushed laurel Aug 19, 2019, 6:26 PM

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cissalc!

pure jewel Aug 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Anybody have numbers of the quantity of ap the orc racial gives? Cause it seems to 25% of base ap, so it seems kinda shitty

plucky iron Aug 19, 2019, 6:50 PM

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its the best horde racial for rogues

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for pve

unkempt cove Aug 19, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Orc and undead are both good.

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Undead mostly for PvP

pure jewel Aug 19, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Yeah that's the question if the active racial of orc is such a changer to ignore the undead racial for pvp, cause i'll proabably play both a lot so dunno

spark raptor Aug 19, 2019, 7:14 PM

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orc racial is insane for pvp as well. 25% stunresist.

plucky iron Aug 19, 2019, 7:15 PM

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yeah

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25% stun resist is retarded

pure jewel Aug 19, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I might go for it just for that but i wanted to hear some opinions thx guys

spark raptor Aug 19, 2019, 7:32 PM

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also reminder you cant trinket stuns as a rogue, so its a big game changer

civic crest Aug 19, 2019, 8:52 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 8:52 PM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 1 hours 7 minutes 1 seconds

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Orc is shit for PVP don't @ me, if you're a warrior and not a Tauren you can go away angery

plucky iron Aug 19, 2019, 9:29 PM

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i love asian woman

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and orcs are the daddy race in classic dont @ me

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 9:35 PM

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o _o

stray whale Aug 19, 2019, 9:40 PM

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for mages in classic does the water ele function more like a tank than current iteration ele

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 9:41 PM

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That I don't know but I doubt it.

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Don't think we had the combo's in Vanilla yet either.

daring thunder Aug 19, 2019, 9:50 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 9:50 PM

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WoW Classic release: 7 days 0 hours 9 minutes 33 seconds

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 9:50 PM

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O _O

spark raptor Aug 19, 2019, 10:43 PM

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!kthot

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 10:43 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 10:43 PM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 23 hours 16 minutes 7 seconds

spark raptor Aug 19, 2019, 10:43 PM

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it worked

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 10:43 PM

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sub7daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays

daring thunder Aug 19, 2019, 10:45 PM

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oh i forgot to time the 7 day mark

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missed SucksMan

broken pollen Aug 19, 2019, 10:46 PM

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What stage did dagger rogue get good?

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AQ?

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Around there ye.

broken pollen Aug 19, 2019, 10:47 PM

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How far behind was it b4 that

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Dunno.

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Don't have HARD numbers, yaknow?

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It's an issue with energy, dmg, crit ratings, etc.

broken pollen Aug 19, 2019, 10:47 PM

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fair enough

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 10:47 PM

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and a general lack of daggers.

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But you get two very good daggers in AQ, so.

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If you didn't have TF by then you probably go Daggers until you do w/e you want in Naxx.

plucky nymph Aug 19, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Then TBC releases and you go Combat again because your builder is Mutilate and is only usable behind the target and was a poor design choice at the tim

tough pilot Aug 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 19, 2019, 11:52 PM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 22 hours 7 minutes 2 seconds

tough pilot Aug 19, 2019, 11:53 PM

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pog

fair carbon Aug 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 12:02 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 21 hours 57 minutes 25 seconds

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 12:26 AM

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so our best bet will be to level combat, right? if i can remember from back in the day combat was go to for me when i leveled but i didnt know much about the game then

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feels like its a better idea though

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since were fighting mobs head to head so backstabbing is annoying early on right

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Yes.

sand cipher Aug 20, 2019, 12:27 AM

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combat swords to level

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can reroll daggers later for pvp, or stay combat swords for pve

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Discord taking a poop on itself.

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or do combat daggers later on.

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 12:28 AM

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i mean i played combat p much all of vanilla mostly because i could never get good daggers lol. ill have to see how im feeling at 60

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 12:28 AM

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For leveling it's a struggle unless you wanna SS with daggers, which is fine, but the damage range is rough.

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 12:30 AM

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what do we do from 1-10? i forget where to get an early sword am i stuck with daggers for first few?

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ideally id like to avoid spending money early on just to save for a mount

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 12:31 AM

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You smash with what you get.

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Looks like that.

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You basically want a weapon with your LEVEL as the bottom of the damage range.

sand cipher Aug 20, 2019, 12:45 AM

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can you link the original? @plucky nymph

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 12:46 AM

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pins

sand cipher Aug 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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yeah but where on shadow panther is it?

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having trouble finding it rn

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Leveling, scroll doooooooooooooown

sand cipher Aug 20, 2019, 12:49 AM

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ahh thank you

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 1:05 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 1:05 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 20 hours 54 minutes 38 seconds

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Anyone going to Skeram?

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 1:51 AM

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m a n k r i k b o y z

hushed laurel Aug 20, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Pagle Pals 4 lyfe

signal ember Aug 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Mut being target isn't a poor decision, its play into assassin theme

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Course it does, but it's BAD for leveling.

signal ember Aug 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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Just 2 shot

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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It's a poor decision on YOUR part.

signal ember Aug 20, 2019, 2:25 AM

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4head

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CS > Mut Mut Env

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monkahmm

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 2:26 AM

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mut mut rupture run to next mob

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 2:26 AM

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"!classic"

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wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 2:55 AM

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My brother has claimed rogue. I might have to go priest :(

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 3:33 AM

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Anyone know if the guards in classic are tauntable by chance?

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 3:35 AM

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depending on the guards you're not gonna have room to taunt with the snap kick stunlock

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Like city guards

carmine idol Aug 20, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Where my Skeram squad at ?

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Right here

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Dude on Skeram

carmine idol Aug 20, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Nice!

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 17 hours 0 minutes 18 seconds

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 17 hours 0 minutes 12 seconds

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 17 hours 0 minutes 5 seconds

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 4:59 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 17 hours 0 minutes 1 seconds

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 5:00 AM

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fffffffffffff

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im a failure

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 6:39 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 6:39 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 15 hours 20 minutes 13 seconds

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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feelsloveman getting close lads

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 14 hours 42 minutes 45 seconds

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 7:17 AM

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alliance

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 7:20 AM

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horde

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 7:23 AM

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you both get a thumb down

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both factions suck, talk shit on both of them in goldshire

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 7:26 AM

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No, Gurabashi Arena

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Meet me there on Skeram exactly 5 days after launch.

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 7:28 AM

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pvp realm kekw

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faction-locked nerd

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Non pvp realm 😷

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As a rogue too of all classes

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 7:36 AM

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instanced pvp, flagging, and duels all exist

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I simply choose when I want to pvp rather than give in to hell

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 7:38 AM

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Hell is good for some :)

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To each is own tho

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 8:44 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 8:44 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 13 hours 15 minutes 0 seconds

daring thunder Aug 20, 2019, 8:56 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 8:56 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 13 hours 3 minutes 48 seconds

jade flint Aug 20, 2019, 9:51 AM

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Anyone try frontstabbing on live classic beta?

acoustic heath Aug 20, 2019, 10:06 AM

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frontstabbing doesn't work on live

jade flint Aug 20, 2019, 10:12 AM

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Heard people got it to work but just not consistantly. Didn't try personally.

acoustic heath Aug 20, 2019, 10:13 AM

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oh really? Thought the already said it didn't work when people tried it on the first demo

jade flint Aug 20, 2019, 10:15 AM

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Im going to look more into it. I'd be suprised if it works tbh.

acoustic heath Aug 20, 2019, 10:15 AM

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yea me too

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It didn't work in vanilla back in the day right?

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so it shouldn't work now

jade flint Aug 20, 2019, 10:16 AM

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I don't believe it did, anywhere I read or look theres always a few people claiming it did. I was always under the impression it was a server lag on private servers thing

acoustic heath Aug 20, 2019, 10:18 AM

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yea exactly that's the info I read up on aswell

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can't find any recent posts on it tho

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or any info

jade flint Aug 20, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Guess it will just be combat swords then blobshrug

acoustic heath Aug 20, 2019, 10:21 AM

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yea pretty much

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unless you group I guess

hushed laurel Aug 20, 2019, 10:28 AM

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Stuff just updates much better on live. Hamstring kiting was awful as well.

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Thankfully you don't have to kite with the accurate health regen

glass timber Aug 20, 2019, 11:16 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 11:16 AM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 10 hours 43 minutes 2 seconds

dusk crystal Aug 20, 2019, 1:30 PM

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soon Shiennar

fallen panther Aug 20, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I can already sense the disappointment of the masses. Soon, soon rooGasm

livid palm Aug 20, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Front stabbing is a private server thing

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It will not work on classic

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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gonna laugh when pserver players go "this isnt the classic im used to" and quit

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I 82% guarantee somebody is gonna do it

dusk crystal Aug 20, 2019, 3:16 PM

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just laugh at the idiots

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 3:16 PM

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hey guys has anyone installed the arctium sandbox client to install addons

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or test addons?

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im having trouble

hushed laurel Aug 20, 2019, 3:21 PM

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"Wait, I can't pay GMs for thunderfury? Fuck this noise"

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 4:42 PM

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"PvP Rogues will be running "Rampant" during Phase1 because players will not have access to their class Insignia Trinket"

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could anyone tell me what is this Rampant thing?

fallen panther Aug 20, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Just means they will gank and there's nothing you can do about it

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 4:44 PM

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oh, they will just stun lock freely

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kk thx

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 5:25 PM

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NE players: are you a desolace dude or a wetlands wimp

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Ne's peepochrist

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 6:17 PM

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when did the Stun DR start? couldnt you chain stun players for days in vanilla?

hushed laurel Aug 20, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Early vanilla you could

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I remember keeping people sapped for ages.

fringe sail Aug 20, 2019, 6:28 PM

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what professions are people thinking of taking?

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Skinning and herbing

lavish berry Aug 20, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Alchemy

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skinnig herb at first toh ye

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 6:49 PM

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They don't take much time while leveling and produce good money for mount

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Swapping to engineer at end game. Cause it's a must.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Lol I've seen people on private servers like "the smart people will continue playing here instead of paying Blizzard"

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Lmao

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Imagine crying about 15 bucks

lavish berry Aug 20, 2019, 6:49 PM

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after a bit might switch to engineering tho

tough pilot Aug 20, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Or worse not being able to make a token on retail lmao

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Engineering just too good. If you have any aspirations for pvp you have to do it. Isn't even a debate.

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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engi/x?

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"During our launch week, as the players spread out across the world, we’ll monitor activity and reduce layers as necessary, so the world continues to feel full."

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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WoW Classic release: 6 days 2 hours 46 minutes 18 seconds

hushed laurel Aug 20, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Bindings in P1. Prepare for the salt

worldly minnow Aug 20, 2019, 7:28 PM

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no trrigering intented, is the level of toxicity will be comparable across shaz/gol/geh ? (early pvp server vs late pvp servers)

jade flint Aug 20, 2019, 7:33 PM

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you guys see this

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https://twitter.com/Methodgg/status/1163880409702326272

Method (@Methodgg)

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loud tree Aug 20, 2019, 7:35 PM

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world first in a 15 yr old video game

jade flint Aug 20, 2019, 7:36 PM

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still gonna be interesting to see where they optimize ect

loud tree Aug 20, 2019, 7:37 PM

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yeah, it'll be fun.

drowsy phoenix Aug 20, 2019, 7:49 PM

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real discussion point: et cetera or et cetera

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 8:10 PM

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etc.

dusk crystal Aug 20, 2019, 8:20 PM

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rag first week gunna be interesting

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wait, im pepega

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2 weeks seems doable

mellow quartz Aug 20, 2019, 8:29 PM

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I think the race is going to be a dud, mechanically classic bosses are pretty tame compared to what mythic does today. like ragnaros himself was like, melee get out of melee range when he yells, move away from the dude that gets hammer of ragnaros. and kill the adds during submerge phase. thats dungeon boss material for BFA

fossil steeple Aug 20, 2019, 8:33 PM

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the race will be "who gets the required fire resist gear first"

hushed laurel Aug 20, 2019, 8:45 PM

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You barely need FR for mC besides tanks needing 80 or so

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Week 1 rag will be interesting to watch to see their strats. I'm sure it'll be a few dungeon cleave groups and mages farming rep for quints

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But the actual raids will be boring. Vanilla raids suck up till cthun basically

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 9:57 PM

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You think mc will be cleared first week?

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I'd say like...
The 11th or 12th day

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I'm interested in how small of a raid group people will be able to MC with.

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:17 PM

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what is a fast lvl 60? like 7/days played?

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4 maybe

ornate jetty Aug 20, 2019, 10:18 PM

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4 is fast

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:19 PM

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i remember my priest was 22 ish. but that was dilly dally exploring

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the 5 man dungeon grind bonus xp is probably the fastest way now.

ornate jetty Aug 20, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Depends

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Also most of the prior speedruns are done on servers and during a time where it's entirely undisrupted.

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I'd probably spend a good amount of time trying to get out ahead of people and going back to questing once you're a few levels ahead.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:27 PM

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I recently heard that average play time on "blizz like" private servers was 12-13 days. I believe it. I got about 10 on my shadow priest trying to go pretty fast but also doing dungeons and pvping here and there. I'd say 7 is still pretty damn fast, but yeah, some people will be at 4 days or less.

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:28 PM

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pServers tend to have inflated experience values.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Yea that's one of the reasons I used quotation marks. But I dont think it's an insane difference. Also one thing to watch out for is world first vs speed run (lowest /played time)

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:30 PM

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granted when i did it, I got rested. People racing wont. and there are no xp pots. so raw time and efficiency

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when were summoning stones added

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mid MC ?

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WoW Icon update.png Patch 1.3.0 (2005-03-07): Added.

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Some servers granted 10-20% more experience while not advertising the leveling experience as such.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:31 PM

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I think they'll be in there at launch?

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:31 PM

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i remember them being added when i was running mauradon.

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Summoning Stones will never be in Classic.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:31 PM

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What

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:31 PM

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classic is 1.12 isnt it

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I think they'll be there, but cant be used to summon

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Right??

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Meeting Stones, the summoning component of them, were added in 2.0+

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I remember not having them running mauradon, then had them

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wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Gotta have a warlock in the friend group

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:33 PM

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When they made changes to the LFG System the stones were used to get people to the dungeon, before just TPing everyone into the iunstance.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I have a group of IRL friends I will be playing with and I think they will hold me back :(

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:34 PM

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If we will get the group queueing system, I don't know, but it's fine if we do > _>

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I dont think people would use it anyways

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:38 PM

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It was one of those in-between solutions and is good for finding your 3rd+ members.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:40 PM

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/join lookingforgroup

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I wonder what addon is going to be released that is going to piss everyone off

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VanillaIO lol

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:40 PM

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All of them, it seems.

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and /LFG isn't a listing, just gimme a list to poke at to find a group.

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Much easier than getting 20000000 whispers.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:41 PM

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I don't remember how the lfg thing worked

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My strategy was to jus type /who class level etc and politely ask if they would please like to fill x role in x dungeon

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:43 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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as such

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:44 PM

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try /1 LFG UBRS 300dps rogue. I dont Suck.

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300 is prob high

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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there any classic weakauras around yet? or would modern WAs work at all? but some of them probably have a lot of unneeded stuff thats in BFA lol

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Yeah sure.

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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I saw someone with WA already

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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i didnt check if wago has a classic section yet so

vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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https://wago.io/classic-weakauras

Wago.io

Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements

raven snow Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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that answers that lol

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ty

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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_ >

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vocal hornet Aug 20, 2019, 10:45 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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they are ready to roll

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:47 PM

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fuckinRaidWeakauras2head

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They should just remove the specs that are useless.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Does WA work the same on classic as it does retail? All the same features etc?

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:48 PM

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Yes.

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Things haven't really changed much since Vanilla and Power Auras.

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Other than losing functionality.

wind lantern Aug 20, 2019, 10:52 PM

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So who's not maining a rogue?

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 10:57 PM

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<~~

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 20, 2019, 10:57 PM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 23 hours 2 minutes 15 seconds

hushed laurel Aug 20, 2019, 11:06 PM

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@wind lantern yah, MC week 1 just takes 35ish no lifers, plus a few people (mages) farming waterlord rep. Don't even need to be 60, or have great gear. Won't be a week 1 on every server, but we will see a few for sure.

gritty folio Aug 20, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Question;
If solo leveling as a rogue swords is the go to with the option of frontstab daggers as well. Is it better in a group with a warrior and hunter to go daggers for the extra dps as I'll almost always be able to attack from behind?

plucky nymph Aug 20, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Frontstabbing isn't a thing last I saw.

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Swords/Maces/etc. the entire way, regardless of group.

livid palm Aug 20, 2019, 11:47 PM

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Front stab is a private server thing. Backstabbing from the front would literally make no sense

ornate jetty Aug 20, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Frontstab, again, just confirming for him not in classic

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Theres gonna be a huge influx of noobs in clasic

hushed laurel Aug 21, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Yerp, it's exciting

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Hopefully layering gives them a enjoyable early experience

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If classic is to really succeed, they need new players to join up and stick around

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I just hope the noobs make it to the contested zones so i can gank/protect them

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 12:50 AM

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https://blog.tradeskillmaster.com/tsm4-to-be-available-in-wow-classic/

TradeSkillMaster Blog

gumdrops

TSM4 to be available in WoW Classic! - TradeSkillMaster Blog

In the lead up to the launch on August 27th, we wanted to let you all know that TradeSkillMaster 4 will be available and functioning in WoW Classic! As of version 4.8 of TSM, the addon will load in-game for Classic just as it does for Retail. You may need to select the option...

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btw

raven snow Aug 21, 2019, 1:02 AM

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i have no doubt a lot of noobs will fall in love, and a lot of them will get sick of the vanilla style pretty fast

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 1:13 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 1:13 AM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 20 hours 46 minutes 25 seconds

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 1:20 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 1:20 AM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 20 hours 39 minutes 12 seconds

regal dove Aug 21, 2019, 1:49 AM

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What is the addon equivalent of stunwatch for classic ?

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Stunwatch.

pallid vigil Aug 21, 2019, 2:29 AM

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can rogues beat SL locks early vanilla?

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im having some trouble

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 2:29 AM

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o _O huh

pallid vigil Aug 21, 2019, 2:30 AM

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rogues, in pvp, beating a soul link lock

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1v1

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whats the strat

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 2:35 AM

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dont think we beat locks unless im mistaken

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 2:36 AM

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you do if youre undead

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Yeah undead is best bet, and even then its rough matchup

pallid vigil Aug 21, 2019, 2:38 AM

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swords or daggers

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 2:42 AM

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id imagine daggers.

signal ember Aug 21, 2019, 2:49 AM

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You just two shot clothies

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monkaW

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Not SL locks until later.

hollow badger Aug 21, 2019, 3:03 AM

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im trying to decide whether i should play warlock or rogue

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im thinking warlock since ive never mained one

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Yup you don't 2 shot SL locks, and even when we get better daggers and gear, Locks are scaling hard as hell, if not harder than rogues. not an easy matchup.

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 17 hours 1 minutes 53 seconds

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 6:18 AM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 15 hours 41 minutes 46 seconds

latent tangle Aug 21, 2019, 6:26 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 6:26 AM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 15 hours 33 minutes 48 seconds

ruby bridge Aug 21, 2019, 8:26 AM

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less then a week hype

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 12 hours 49 minutes 17 seconds

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 12 hours 49 minutes 7 seconds

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 12 hours 49 minutes 1 seconds

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 12 hours 48 minutes 57 seconds

bright matrix Aug 21, 2019, 9:15 AM

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@wind lantern Stop spamming

molten arrow Aug 21, 2019, 2:45 PM

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i was surprised to see the classic talent calculators for 1.12 have premed as the top subtelty talent. I thought 1.12 had cloak of shadows?

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do i remember wrong?

lyric field Aug 21, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Pretty sure clos didn't come out until bc or wrath

molten arrow Aug 21, 2019, 3:00 PM

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it was a 41pt talent first

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right before tbc

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i just can't remember how long 1.12 ran before tbc

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was there a 1.13?

ornate jetty Aug 21, 2019, 3:03 PM

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There wont be 41 pt talents in classic

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And no cloak

molten arrow Aug 21, 2019, 3:04 PM

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ugh sad

ornate jetty Aug 21, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Also no sstep

molten arrow Aug 21, 2019, 3:04 PM

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you know what, that must have been like RIGHT when tbc was about to launch

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it was with shadowstep

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yeah ok i remember better now

ornate jetty Aug 21, 2019, 3:04 PM

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That woulda been a bc prelaunch patch if anything

molten arrow Aug 21, 2019, 3:05 PM

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sounds right. i mis-remembered apparently

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 3:36 PM

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cloak had super short CD too

raven snow Aug 21, 2019, 4:13 PM

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is there a guide on what trainer skills to buy to save as much gold as possible?

daring kayak Aug 21, 2019, 4:15 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 4:15 PM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 5 hours 44 minutes 56 seconds

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Man, I'm so fucking ready for Classic..

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This is the first gaming-related thing I've been excited about in 2-3 years

molten arrow Aug 21, 2019, 5:18 PM

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i don't think i've been this excited about a game since...

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this same e xact game maybe?

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 5:55 PM

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i was unaware of wow, got trial from my friend in may or june 2005

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lmao, just played cs back then

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so i am more excited now XD

molten arrow Aug 21, 2019, 5:57 PM

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😄

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I worked at Best Buy and we got a bunch of beta codes to give out

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We instead, used them

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I'd say I was most excited for TBC. It's still, by far, my favorite expansion.

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I'm hoping for a TBC server last next year

hushed laurel Aug 21, 2019, 6:38 PM

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itll be 2 years before BC atleast

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 6:41 PM

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maybe

mint socket Aug 21, 2019, 6:42 PM

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anyone know if the deathstalkers have an official classic server?

signal ember Aug 21, 2019, 7:20 PM

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TBC and Wrath was nice expan, even tho wrath started to go toward to casual route.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:26 PM

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"casual route", because classic wasn't casual friendly?

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Hate to break it to you but wow has been casual routed since day 1.

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Doesn't mean that it doesnt cater to hardcore players tho.

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Devs themselves even have stated they made wow for every day people. If you think classic was made for 1% hardcore players... idk what to say.

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Hell id argue retail WoW caters more to hardcore players than Classic ever will.

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Strictly due to Mythic raiding (which majority of the community doesn't even partake in) and mythic +

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and im a classic > retail guy

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but classic wasn't as hardcore as some like to paint the picture..

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 7:30 PM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 2 hours 29 minutes 25 seconds

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:33 PM

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consumable and repair gold demand in naxx was the tipping point from fun to miserable job for me.

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I made it through 4horsemen before crying

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:34 PM

#

yaBigBaby

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:34 PM

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yeah thats def not fun lmao

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:40 PM

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casuals had plenty of shit to do in vanilla imo

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leveling by itself was a big deal

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:42 PM

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People just have to take the goggles off eventually, i mean 5 days to go and people will see. Classic was amazing environment for casuals. Way better than retail.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:43 PM

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ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhdunnoaboutthat

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Being hardcore in classic is so minor to being hardcore in retail.

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I mean i was a brainless 13-14 year old rogue at the time in classic clearing raids and content with ease. Wasn't hardcore at all nor even knew what hardcore was at the time.

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If my dumb child self could do majority of the content, i can only imagine people nowadays with ENDLESS outlets of info will be fine.

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I never had a Joana guide or a youtube 1-60 with pauses to push me to the finish line lmao.

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Once you take goggles off its easy to see.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Yeah, getting through Naxx is a fucking cakewalk now

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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All it ever was and is, is gear checks.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Naxx in Classic is about LFR difficulty, maybe normal, of a modern raid

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Aka time gated, by grinding endless dungeons or farming for resis gear.

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Exactly.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:46 PM

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BUT, at the time, most people had never played an MMO and EVERYTHING was new to them

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Right, at the time it def was more challenging, i 100% agree.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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"Wait, this boss has 3 mechanics? WTF that's impossible"

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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LOL

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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it was definitely not easy at the time, pointless to compare current wow in any way

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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:3

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:47 PM

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It has a point because it's being released alongside it.

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WoW Classic is still grindy - but all of the content will be accessible by anyone who actually wants to see it.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Yeah was only comparing since the guy brought up where the game became casual routed.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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People who only run Normal now will step into MC and BWL and think, "Man okay this is easy as fuck"

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While back in Classic, they were legit hard

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Naxx1 and LFR difficulty? C'mon now. That's just being silly.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Exactly.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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razorgore will still surprise many raids

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Please do note that when we had MC anniversary people still failed miserably.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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guaranteed

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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I dont think its silly at all.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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@sterile pond I know dude - I wound up taking over the MC raid and leading it in chat

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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i think you're right too, it will def catch guilds off guard but once again so many outlets of information.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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I was the only one in my raid who had done it before

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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one quick youtube swipe and you have everything you could ever need.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:49 PM

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its just a huge step up in difficulty from MC for a first boss

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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MC wasn't even hard at the end of classic.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Like we're spoiled in this day and age with information compared to back then.

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we've learned from mistakes.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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MC was easy always if you werent braindead

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Gonna be hard to repeat a lot of mistakes if your guild prepares.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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When The Forgotten Coast was released, my guild cleared to Domo on the second week of the server, and on the 3rd week we wiped at like 5% on Chromag

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Much like Heroic now.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Major difference I see between vanilla and classic. People leveled what they wanted back then. Turned out some of them sucked. But people had hope that things would be buffed/balanced. Now we know better.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Eh, we still didn't take the bad classes to Naxx.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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If you know that sin will never be good. You don't play it.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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The thing is, even shit builds today will do more damage than they did back then

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An ENH shaman today will do more damage than the average one did back then because they understand the rotation more

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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There wasnt much of a rotation.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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so will good builds

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Not saying it'll be good - I'm saying the person playing it will be better

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:53 PM

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We you 12 in vanilla?

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Yeah, but even then - "rotations" that were only 3 buttons seemed hard to most people.

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Me? No - I was 20

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Half of my guild? Probably 14-16

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:53 PM

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If they were hard for a 20 yr old you might have been 12.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:53 PM

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I didn't say I struggled with it

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But considering I have 30 year olds that fuck up the same task they've been doing for 5 years at work...

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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You said hard, I said hard.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Threatwjll surprise a lot of people.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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tank !!! wtf u doing!! xDD

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pepeg

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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omfgtauntplase

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IT'S ON DR FROM THE MORONIC DPS

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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I mean people can't even play on skittish weeks properly, cant imagine how its gonna be in classic lmao.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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angery

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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aoe taunt so i can do mega aoe plx

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:54 PM

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etc.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:55 PM

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I just feel bad for all of the Deadmines groups that fail because they think Pallies can tank

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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pala tanks are sad, no matter how hard you try a keyboard turning warrior is better

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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One of our guys has a boner for pally tank. So we are building around it for lolz.

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Like you said. Better players right.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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I just think its greedy to play pally tank personally.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Pally Tank isn't even possible until like level 25 or something anyway

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Sure.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

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And even then - it's not "good" until the 50s

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

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but if you have buds that wanna play around it, then all power to ya

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Paladin Tanks are pretty dumb in some places, but it's more about their damage than their tankiness at that oint.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

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this is also why TBC > any exp 😉

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

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^

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

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balance became a thing

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Pallies, IMO, shine in 5-man level 60 dungeons

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Anything with undead, they are monsters

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:58 PM

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oh for sure

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they're def able to be pulled off but need a lot of specific gear if i recall.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Prot pally getting Disc PI and Misdirect

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It woulda been boring in a normal build probably.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 7:58 PM

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im pretty rock brain when it comes to pallys tho, kinda wanna make one eventually down the road tho.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Pallies are the best power levelers in the game

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 7:59 PM

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I had one. Pulling 50x undead and swarming them into a crypt.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Level 60 Pally can boost you from around 15 to 50 in no time.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:00 PM

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thats nutty

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:00 PM

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consecration + ret aura + shield spike

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Trying to decide my role for project prot. Rogue has vanish. But fury has offtaunt if shit goes sideways.

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Frost can Nova peeled trash.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Fury is the highest dps in vanilla if I remember correctly

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Warrior is very versatile in the DPS spot.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:00 PM

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BUT, you'll spend 1/3 of your time tanking

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Fury has the highest potential at the end of the expansion but their DPS is not actionable.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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That's fine. Prot wants thunderfury tbh.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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and is therefor useless.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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gotcha

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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I'm just after lols

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Rogues and Mages maul them and everyone else.

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Well, Rogues and Mage.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:01 PM

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ignites pog

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:02 PM

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It would be interesting to see Classic overhauled to remove shit, like max debuff slots etc.

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I wonder how good a warlock could be if they could actually use their dots

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:02 PM

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ive always wanted to see that as well

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bet locks would def be nice

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Yeah I think the game could be made more interesting if some specs got a rework, though I think we will see more Enhancement Shaman if crit can get high enough.

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More uhhh...

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Shadow Priests, maybe.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Yes SP's too! maybe even balance druid!

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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We were so bad. We had 6 locks that had curse of Doom on onyxia.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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love balance even tho its meme

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Back at 8debuffs.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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lol

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Waiting for that to pop

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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That, IMO, is just another reason I'll spend far more time on a TBC server once it's available.

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TBC will always be the best expansion for me

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Like I said. Leveling took so fucking long. People just kept what they made.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Yeah once that TBC server comes, ill be set as far as WoW goes.

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Can retire then lol.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:04 PM

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So if nothing else I do support people trying something different.

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Just don't get pissy when we were right 15 years ago.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:04 PM

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I don't care if people play fuck-off builds as long as they actually try to maximize it.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:04 PM

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@plucky nymph Does the wise player go fury, knowing prot will need help with swaps.

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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yeah some guilds are ok with meme builds and others arent. i know the guild im in, isn't allowing meme specs.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I can dance and hot swap taunts.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I think if you are a warrior you have options.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I don't even have a guild

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I don't even know what server I'm playing on yet

tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Damn!

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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You have shield wall taunt weapon swap to cheese some stuff.

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Can OT drakes in BWL/etc.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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shazzrah for 5 hour queues PepeSpin

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:06 PM

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My goal is clearing UBRS and mc probably.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:06 PM

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That will be very easy.

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IMO

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I was hoping to have people to play with in Classic, but all of my friends are playing with people that I don't really want to be around at all.

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So I'm rolling 100% solo in Classic

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Just don't have time to try hard.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Will be fine.

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Get some Thorium Brotherhood Rep. as you might have to OT Rag.

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and will need the FR + STA from their pieces.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Wanted rogue. But I feel that our stubborn project prot won't give up.

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Rogue is not my best slot to assist

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:08 PM

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TBF you can play around threat much better in Classic than now.

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and so long he can do enough damage in burst he can effectively taunt.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Is feint classic?

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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yea it reduces threat by x amount

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:x

blissful locust Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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tbf, i always thought threat is more a dps then a tank mechanic

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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It's very much both.

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Just not sure that we had feint for 1.12 is all.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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As taunt works differently in Vanilla than in TBC even IIRC.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:09 PM

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It does

blissful locust Aug 21, 2019, 8:10 PM

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ye, but i mean

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tanks use skills on the gcd if possible anyway

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:10 PM

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📎 unknown.png

blissful locust Aug 21, 2019, 8:10 PM

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dps are the guys that need too watch out and stop doing stuff/use threat reducing abilitys

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Unless you're a rogue

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:10 PM

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and it's minus ~800 threat.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Oh, I'm #2 on threat? Okay... vanishes

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Which is almost 2x your DPS.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:11 PM

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theres gonna be that dude still manages to pull aggro and die as rogue

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:11 PM

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100%

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:11 PM

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oh didnt know i had vanish xd

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:11 PM

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High dps with vanish and feint is prob better than a dead fury warrior.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:11 PM

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My biggest "man I can't fucking wait!" is when I forget to turn taunt off in a 5man

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Correct.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:12 PM

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That and, "Oops, I accidently pulled 2/3 of LBRS with a multishot"

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:12 PM

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There's a very good reason Rogues get -Threat on tier sets.

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even -Threat to Finishers o _O

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:13 PM

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yolo pet pulls, wasnt me btw

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UBRS balcony or whats that thing

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:13 PM

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LBRS, where you skp the first boss and then drop down and tag him on the way out

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Yeah that's the thing.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Oops, accidently the whole room

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My goal is to have my epic mount by the end of the third week. Obviously, I want it sooner... But I think 3 weeks to level and farm 1k gold is fair

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Eh if you are a Rogue or Mage you can farm that gold pretty fast.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:15 PM

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yup

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Even running SM you get like ~40 gold per hour

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I'll be doing things like that just to change it up.

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:16 PM

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i was so poor back then even tho i found a couple boe epics

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:16 PM

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I wasn't

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:16 PM

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maybe it was the warrior repairs

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:17 PM

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I usually worked overnights. On nights I didn't work, I just farmed Rich Thorium all night long.

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I had a character named SchwettyBallz on Burning Legion where I'd crafted a bunch of Arcanite weapons

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I have been thinking about rolling something other than rogue though - I've basically only played Rogue for all of WoW. But, I'm also good at it 😕

vocal hornet Aug 21, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Since it's not as competitive, maybe it's just fun this time.

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Yeah should be much more casual this time around.

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Minus the critical roles on some encounters.

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Problem is, I legit love rogues

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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lock, mage, rogue, warrior

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not easy to pick

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Lock is amazing for PvP

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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actually

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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m'eh for PvE

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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fuk soul shard farming

neat sun Aug 21, 2019, 8:34 PM

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^

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And, warlocks are literally, "Put your curse on then hit shadowbolt"

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That's your rotation

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If you're going to do that you might as well be a ret pally

dusk crystal Aug 21, 2019, 8:35 PM

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searing pain when you wanna test your tank

hushed laurel Aug 21, 2019, 8:43 PM

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warlocks get to tank an emp, thats cool

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Since classic is coming Monday for NA, does that mean there will be a reset like 14 hours after launch?

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 9:03 PM

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tough pilot Aug 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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WoW Classic release: 5 days 0 hours 35 minutes 46 seconds

wind lantern Aug 21, 2019, 9:30 PM

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So....yeah?

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Nvm just realized those resets are only like 15 min anyways. And they'll probably have to reset at random times at first

carmine idol Aug 21, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Blizz already said that Classic wouldn't be included in the Tuesday morning maintenance after release in the AMA yesterday

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 10:00 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 21, 2019, 10:00 PM

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WoW Classic release: 4 days 23 hours 59 minutes 34 seconds

plucky nymph Aug 21, 2019, 10:00 PM

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MISSED IT FUUUUUUUUUCK

drowsy phoenix Aug 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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https://classic.wowhead.com/news=294602/mankrik-is-full-classic-wow-population-update-for-na-realms-august-20?webhook
there a reason why the RP realms arent listed as pacific/eastern here?

Wowhead

Mankrik Is Full - Classic WoW Population Update for NA Realms Augu...

It's now been a full day since Blizzard opened up two more NA Classic realms, and the Mankrik realm has now moved from High to Full.

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like how does itwork

wind lantern Aug 22, 2019, 12:17 AM

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@drowsy phoenix

📎 CLASSICRP.png

raven snow Aug 22, 2019, 12:21 AM

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whats our best poisons for leveling

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instant?

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or deadly?

plucky nymph Aug 22, 2019, 12:23 AM

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Probably Instant

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 12:27 AM

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@wind lantern tyty

tough pilot Aug 22, 2019, 12:57 AM

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instant poison for sure

wind lantern Aug 22, 2019, 3:16 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 22, 2019, 3:16 AM

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WoW Classic release: 4 days 18 hours 43 minutes 18 seconds

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 3:34 AM

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Tfw one of my guildies wants to be RL and GM. I’m trying to warn him but he won’t listen feelskek

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 3:42 AM

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that's too much for any one man

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Exactly

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omegalul

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I think I wanna GM a social guild tbh

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Then we have people who are gonna be playing retail trying to GM

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omegalul

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 3:45 AM

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raids are cool and all and that can still be done but I wanna have a good time with people

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lmao multi-GM'ing

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 3:48 AM

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Idk dude

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Like I mentioned from the start that I’m interested. I’m playing classic>retail any day. And I have 2 straight weeks of nothing going on right when it releases

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So I’m gonna be powerleveling to the max

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 4:06 AM

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I wanna chill level

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Chill leveling PepeLaugh

loud tree Aug 22, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Fastly leveling whilst chill

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 4:43 AM

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wesmart

loud tree Aug 22, 2019, 4:46 AM

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peepohappy

daring thunder Aug 22, 2019, 4:50 AM

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gonna fast level with my duo partner while we chill PeepoHappy

loud tree Aug 22, 2019, 4:57 AM

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double chill peepohappy

daring thunder Aug 22, 2019, 5:00 AM

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big chill hypers

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 5:00 AM

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/wave at hordies while leveling

cold citrus Aug 22, 2019, 6:48 AM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 22, 2019, 6:48 AM

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WoW Classic release: 4 days 15 hours 11 minutes 29 seconds

marsh wyvern Aug 22, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Will we be able to sap people for a minute again?!?!? 😂

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 12:55 PM

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https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rouchn6t1iE&t=4m06s

YouTube

juddyy

RichTurpin | Welcome to the Blacklist | Classic WoW

#ClassicWoW #WoWClassic https://www.twitch.tv/juddyy

▶ Play video

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@marsh wyvern

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 1:15 PM

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I'm excited I'm going on a Normal server...

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Roaming PvP is fun but there's nothing worse than being ganked over and over in STV when you don't have long to play

unkempt cove Aug 22, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Just be rogue

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Stealth + you're the one who ganks

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:08 PM

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guys whats the best way to have the gold for mount ready at 40?

blissful locust Aug 22, 2019, 2:11 PM

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until you get ganked while ganking other people

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:12 PM

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@lucid beacon skinning probably makes a good amount

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:12 PM

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@lucid beacon , get skinning, dont buy feint, dont buy wound poison, dont buy high ranks of gouge

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:13 PM

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thanks ! should i sell everything i skin in the AH?

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:13 PM

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no just vendor

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:13 PM

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No, vendor

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:13 PM

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oh really? 😮

fallen panther Aug 22, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Sounds like ez moneyz

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Yeah everyone will run skinning so youll be unable to sell it

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:14 PM

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imagine everyone being smart 😛

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don't overestimate casuals 😄

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Might be worth to save "hides" on a bank alt

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Esp on high lvls, rugged hide is pretty valueable and is relevant throughout vanilla

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:15 PM

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sounds good. i want to switch to engineering on 60 prolly

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:15 PM

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https://de.classic.wowhead.com/guides/rogue-leveling-classic-wow#spells-to-buy-while-leveling-as-a-rogue

Wowhead

Classic WoW Rogue Leveling Guide & Best Leveling Spec 1-60

The Classic WoW Rogue leveling guide recommends the best leveling spec and talents from 1-60 and covers recommended rotations, gear, and all the advice to help you level quickly.

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:15 PM

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You need it for pre bis healer cloak, and i think leather classes need em for T3

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:15 PM

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this guide also mentions what skills to buy

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:15 PM

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engineering is bae :3

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:15 PM

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in order to save money

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:15 PM

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thanks nefy

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:16 PM

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you don't need to buy expose armor and stuff like that

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np

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:16 PM

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i'll prolly play on a pvp server can't wait to play open world pvp on rogue 😄

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:16 PM

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na or eu? owoThinking

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Im on the edge regarding expose. Its good in pvp sometimes. But most ppl wont use it

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:17 PM

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EU

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:17 PM

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nah I rather not buy it to save money tbh 😁

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:17 PM

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expose is good against warrior/pally/priest right?

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:17 PM

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yea its good against plate

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shazzrah?

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Fair enough

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:18 PM

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might go on a german server and shazzrah seems overpopulated as fk.. i'm not to keen on those 5h+ queues

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:18 PM

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yea was thinking about a german server aswell

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but meh

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:18 PM

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maybe shazzrah when stuff calms down later

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Its best against priest and druid tbh. High armor targets id just rupture instead

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:19 PM

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tru aswell

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Deutsche party in ravenholdt lul

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:19 PM

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i can't decide if i should go orc or undead

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lul

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I gonna go orc

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nice for both pve and pvp

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Busty human rogue only way to go

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:19 PM

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yeah think so. i mean undead is amazing for world pvp but orc is just too good

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:20 PM

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yea

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Ud is for giga casual pvpers with no engineering

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:20 PM

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the orc stun resist is insane

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:20 PM

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true

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engineering is insane

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:21 PM

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yea that aswell

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:21 PM

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also not sure if i should go sword or daggerspec for leveling

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:21 PM

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swords

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it's just better

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you don't have to get behind the target

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swords are easy to get aswell

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Theres a funky ambush build thats good at low lvls but never did higher lvls with it

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:23 PM

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if you level to 60 in a group maybe dagger is better

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:23 PM

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It might be viable.

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:23 PM

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probably yeah. is pvp'ing okay with swords?

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Yes

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:23 PM

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yea

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Take improved sprint and youre good

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:24 PM

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i will !

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not going into sub tree though right?

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prolly just combat/assa

fallen panther Aug 22, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I'll probably go human priest and heal those two rogues you don't see that are about to counter gank you, nefy

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:25 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/ju5adCT.png

Imgur

fallen panther Aug 22, 2019, 2:25 PM

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pepeLaugh

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:26 PM

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try me uni

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stabby

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yea cherubii

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Id change a few things in that spec

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:27 PM

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that's the bis build for leveling tho

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Lethality is super overrated while leveling, you wont crit much

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:28 PM

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well you spec into it pretty late i guess

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:28 PM

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yea you do

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you finish the combat tree first

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:28 PM

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"BiS"

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:28 PM

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I mean most rogues ran that on private servers

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what else would you run?

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Most players just play what they see in a guide and assume its right

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:30 PM

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People who don't follow guides are usually bad tho nefyshrug

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Yee usually

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:30 PM

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what else would you spec?

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:30 PM

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But low gear situations are different

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:31 PM

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lethality always seemed good back in the day

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no reason not to spec it imo

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I don't see anything that is better

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:31 PM

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would you advice going the hemo build at early 60 if you want to pvp?

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Hows that talent in assa first row called that gives youv40% crit after killing sth

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:32 PM

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remorseless attacks

vocal hornet Aug 22, 2019, 2:32 PM

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@spark raptor funny. I saw a guide with list of bis dps. had combat last. and shadow priest ele shm top tier.

fallen panther Aug 22, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Do I have to go enchanting as priest? A wand seems mandatory and where else to get a strong one that reliably monkahmm

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Yeah thats a good one.

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Sword spec is great too

vocal hornet Aug 22, 2019, 2:33 PM

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fury was on the bottom row as well.

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I think they were taking into account dungeon 5man cleave. like wut

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:34 PM

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i think that guy was either troll or trash

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guide*

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when 2 of the toptier dps are last 😄

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I mean if you pick a garbage source for a guide nefyshrug

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:35 PM

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@fallen panther if youre alliance, just do darkshore asap, theres a good wand from a q there

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:36 PM

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what was that addon in classic that told you when an enemy player used abilities like Cooldowns or CCs etc?

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:36 PM

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nature enemy cast bars I think owoThinking

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at least that was the addon in tbc

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:36 PM

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ah nice because i saw a lot of people in youtube pvp vids using it

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:37 PM

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yea that addon was super nice

fallen panther Aug 22, 2019, 2:37 PM

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@spark raptor fair point. I might go horde and join nefy. Actually not sure yet

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Just get a weakaura pepeez

pallid delta Aug 22, 2019, 2:37 PM

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does anyone know if the murder talent is going to work in classic? i see conflicting info on vanilla vs private vs classic.

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:38 PM

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wdym going to work?

pallid delta Aug 22, 2019, 2:38 PM

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apparently people say murder was bugged in vanilla

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a lot of mobs didnt have types even though they were obviously dragon/beast etc

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:39 PM

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I mean if it doesn't have the type it won't work

pallid delta Aug 22, 2019, 2:39 PM

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right, but are the mobs fixed in classic?

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Dont get murder for leveling

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:39 PM

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no idea if they fixed that

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never heared of that bug either

pallid delta Aug 22, 2019, 2:40 PM

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was not planning on it, but it is nice for raiding

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bwl was apparently an issue with dragonkin and beast not being actually named

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which is a huge chunk of that raid

acoustic heath Aug 22, 2019, 2:40 PM

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was that bug fixed in vanilla?

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at some point

pallid delta Aug 22, 2019, 2:41 PM

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i have no idea at all, but they are fixing other bugs with pets i do believe. things that should have been fixed but were not. i was hoping that this was one of the issues being fixed

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all good, thanks for the info all

sinful shoal Aug 22, 2019, 2:51 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 22, 2019, 2:51 PM

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WoW Classic release: 4 days 7 hours 8 minutes 3 seconds

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 2:52 PM

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here we go again 😂

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https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/azeroth-auto-pilot-classic

CurseForge

Azeroth Auto Pilot - Classic

Speed leveling addon for World of Warcraft - Classic, level 1-60, it tells you what to do and an arrow shows you where to go

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 3:02 PM

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!classic

tall rivetBOT Aug 22, 2019, 3:02 PM

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WoW Classic release: 4 days 6 hours 57 minutes 52 seconds

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 3:25 PM

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oh btw guys

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is pickpocketing worth it?

fallen panther Aug 22, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Pretty sure it is. Free moneys basically. Plus you get reagents for your rogue shenanigans

spark raptor Aug 22, 2019, 3:31 PM

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if you want to have a shot at doing lockpicking while leveling you should do it

fallen panther Aug 22, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Oh right lock picking

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nefyikes

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 3:44 PM

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@lucid beacon Mount money is as simple as, "Sell everything you can, only pick up spells/abilities you're actually using, and don't be afraid to grind for a level or two."

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Pick pocket, lockpick, etc. Use everything to your advantage.

carmine idol Aug 22, 2019, 3:55 PM

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I would highly recommend pick pocketing @lucid beacon

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 3:55 PM

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alrighty

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got all my addons set up now for classic

marsh wyvern Aug 22, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Gotta get used to unpatched stealth been getting feels for it on a bc pserver just to prep my feels for the feels I'm ultimately going to feel and it is classic af even tho it's a bc pserver don't hate me pls

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Pickpocketing every humaniod involved in quests etc is definitely worth the $$

vocal hornet Aug 22, 2019, 4:26 PM

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can you macro pickpocket to sap like I do on live?

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 4:26 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/Mwoo4e3.png

Imgur

vocal hornet Aug 22, 2019, 4:26 PM

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or is everything a bit slower

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 4:26 PM

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does anybody know which addon that is?

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https://i.imgur.com/IY3a6JV.png

Imgur

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and maybe which nameplate?

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 4:54 PM

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How are you guys getting addons set up for classic?

lucid beacon Aug 22, 2019, 4:56 PM

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D:\Games\World of Warcraft_classic_\Interface\AddOns

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just the usual stuff

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Yeah, but how do you know what works?

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You can't just throw modern addons in there, can you?

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 5:03 PM

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handynotes argus for classic

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 5:17 PM

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100%

carmine idol Aug 22, 2019, 5:24 PM

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@neat sun willitclassic.com

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Ohh, this is handy. Thanks!

ruby bridge Aug 22, 2019, 5:31 PM

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doesn't the twitch client support classic?

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Does it? I need to re-install the client. Every time I click on Mods it's just a blank white screen for me

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I tried looking last night and discovered that

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Looks like TSM updated, which is nice... Going to suck having to manually scan the AHs though

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All I really need to get started is TukUI/ElvUI and a nice Quest addon

carmine idol Aug 22, 2019, 6:03 PM

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@ruby bridge I have heard from a few people that twitch app doesn't update classic addons properly, so I went back to doing it manually

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Like I heard it sometimes replaces it with the retail version

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Also good to know...

marsh wyvern Aug 22, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I got questie ATM but still looking

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Questhelper is another

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NVM about quest helper it was scraped and put into questie 🤣

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Supposedly allyroute is good

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If you're going Alliance

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Seeing people on /r/wowclassic talk like they can get to SM as Alliance in 20 minutes is fucking hilarious.

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Doesn't matter how fast I get there... We can't pull until the dude who's died 12 times gets here

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Between that nonsense and the people flipping their shit about the LFG addon... Holy fuck. People need a real problem in their lives if this is what they are upset about.

tough pilot Aug 22, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Allyroute seems really good.

loud tree Aug 22, 2019, 6:45 PM

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yeah, nice and simple

tough pilot Aug 22, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I kinda feel bad for Joana, man tried to corner the market last second for guides by making it subscription based and everyone already going to other sites that basically just copy his route. Lmao

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Kinda hard to put a price on a guide that's been out for as long as it has. 5 bucks or not just hard to justify it.

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 6:51 PM

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I think the big issue for Joana is that he tried to charge at the last second, and it's subscription based. He could have added a quick little, "Hey, like the guide? I spent a lot of time working on this so if you'd like to donate a few bucks, click here"

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Or, just charged $1 for it

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I'm not even going Horde, but I'd have thrown $1 at him just for the guide.

signal ember Aug 22, 2019, 7:02 PM

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But it's classic, you're suppose to not have that kind of addon

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otherwise it would defeat the purpose of

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erm classic

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Oh really?

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There was an addon that was literally a fishing bot

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So, I should have bots that are built as addons?

signal ember Aug 22, 2019, 7:02 PM

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There was guide back then but I didn't use it as much

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Pretty sure anything related to bot is against ToS

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:03 PM

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And yet with the Vanilla Addon API, it was fully functional

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And all of it was using code that Blizzard allowed you to

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There were LFG addons in Classic. Were they are good as one that's built now? No. People have years of experience building addons now.

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I'd be willing to bet a large portion of people who complain about "#nochanges" also think that anyone not using raider.io or whatever it is have no business running Mythics

blissful locust Aug 22, 2019, 7:11 PM

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@neat sun mate, classicwow is a shithole you shit never visit

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there are people that went mad because corpses are not on the ground for hours anymore

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:15 PM

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My favorite "Vanilla Experience" is being able to consume player corpses and force them to rez at the spirit healer

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If that's not in the game, we riot

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You'll find Crimson Whelps in the Wetlands. You'll want to be level 26+ to kill them efficiently, but higher is better for speed. They can drop the Tiny Crimson Whelpling pet!

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Evidently pet battles are in Classic? lol

loud tree Aug 22, 2019, 7:22 PM

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no battles, just pets

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Oh fuck... That was a thing, wasn't it

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I forgot about the chicken egg and shit

loud tree Aug 22, 2019, 7:24 PM

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digusting oozeling gonna be farmed hard

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:25 PM

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I really need to get my plan together. Once I realized I was playing alone I stopped putting together my own plans for what I'm doing.

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 7:35 PM

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why are pets even important in classic

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:36 PM

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They aren't important in the least

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They are literally just little pets that follow you around

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:36 PM

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So how are people setting up their addons already? I should probably do that in preparation

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:36 PM

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I completely forgot about them - saw that on a gold making guide and was laughing

loud tree Aug 22, 2019, 7:37 PM

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there was a little wolf pet that did 1 dmg and was great for spell pushback. also disgusting oozeling can apparently push a debuff off or something. not sure if either of those will be a thing.

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:37 PM

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But yeah, you can go /chicken at a chicken and eventually it craps out an egg

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I totally forgot about that... lol

dusk crystal Aug 22, 2019, 7:37 PM

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not gonna bother with addons a lot tbh till higher level, plenty of time for that

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:38 PM

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I'm just tossing in ElvUI

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So I have the familiar feel to my bars

dusk crystal Aug 22, 2019, 7:38 PM

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just SUF and some stuff

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bartender

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Is ElvUI gonna have a built in swing timer?

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Eh I guess I’ll find out when I actually see it

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Ohh, I don't know?

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It's sad that min-maxxing is classic is going to be optimizing swing timers

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lol

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:42 PM

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I mean it was before

drowsy phoenix Aug 22, 2019, 7:42 PM

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by that do you mean use ability right after auto attack?

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Yes

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:42 PM

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yup

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You never want to break an autoattack for an ability unless you're energy capped - in which, you've made a mistake.

dusk crystal Aug 22, 2019, 7:42 PM

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sword spec procs

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:42 PM

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^ yep

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I'll probably just start with ElvUI, TSM, and AllyRoute and figure out the rest as I go

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:45 PM

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TomToms

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Not sure how much I'll need that...

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:46 PM

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My goal is to beat the sweaty devilsaur mafia

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So I gotta be fast

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:46 PM

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I have no problem buying the leather

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I'll make gold faster than they will

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Can nightelfs actually enter stealth from shadowmeld?

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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yes

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Well

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Alright thanks

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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You still have to cast stealth

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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But NE is a meme

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kekw

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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But, if stealth is on cooldown, you can shadowmeld, then stealth when it's up

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Say a mage is hitting me I can shadowmeld and go stealth?

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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you do - but you can't move

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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I mean

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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And mages aoe

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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You have Vanish

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Yeah ofc

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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So you'll get broken out immediately

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Just an example

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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And if you're in combat, you can't use it.

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So in your example - no

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Vanish would be better in that scenario 10/10

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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But it’ll break combat to right?

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Pretty sure you can't use it in combat

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But I haven't tried in 13 years

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Yeah ofc but vanish is a rather long cd

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You can’t shadowmeld in combat?

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:49 PM

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I don't think so? lemme check

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Cannot be used while shapeshifted
Stops auto-attack
Starts cooldown after aura fades
Can be used while sitting
Cannot be used in combat
Does not require shapeshift```

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Damn

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:49 PM

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According to https://classic.wowhead.com/spell=20580/shadowmeld

Wowhead

Shadowmeld

Activate to slip into the shadows, reducing the chance for enemies to detect your presence. Lasts until cancelled or upon moving. Night Elf Rogues and Druids with Shadowmeld are more difficult to detect while stealthed or prowling.

civic crest Aug 22, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Did not know that

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Nelf’s best racial is that they do flips

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:50 PM

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^

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That feeling of hitting 3 or more flips in a row

dusk crystal Aug 22, 2019, 7:50 PM

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female orc for snoo snoo

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:50 PM

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pogu 3

neat sun Aug 22, 2019, 7:51 PM

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female tauren are the best racial in the game

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:51 PM

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The MEGA arms

ruby bridge Aug 22, 2019, 7:55 PM

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so, how hyped are we about classic?

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:55 PM

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poghypers

dusk crystal Aug 22, 2019, 7:56 PM

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Pepexecute

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:56 PM

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I am ready to slay some Alliance baddies

dusk crystal Aug 22, 2019, 7:58 PM

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ahh, STV

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nothing personal, kid

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:59 PM

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You bet I’m ready to stalk Applejuicee in STV

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Sinscheme

vocal hornet Aug 22, 2019, 7:59 PM

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@neat sun ok. tips and tricks on gold. I was a broke bitch as priest in vanilla. couldnt kill shit, swapped from shadow to holy too much for my own bank. anyway. how do I get rich this time around?

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Form a pyramid scheme

vocal hornet Aug 22, 2019, 7:59 PM

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thinking skinning/herbs as i go. and dump skinning later for something more useful

fair carbon Aug 22, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Mining/Skinning if you just wanna sell

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Skinning LW if you want to bank off Devilsaur preraid BiS pieces

vocal hornet Aug 22, 2019, 8:01 PM

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will I need to wear those for MC?