classic-discussion

[fair carbon]

Vigor lol

10 bonus energy ftw

[novel reef]

so energy regen isn't tied to atk speed?

[plucky nymph]

No.

[novel reef]

kk

[drowsy phoenix]

wait does energy come in milliseconds or seconds

[plucky nymph]

2 second tick

[slow pollen]

is the classic stress test closed now? i wanted to play a bit just to see what classic felt like

[drowsy phoenix]

yeah test ended yesterday

[slow pollen]

damn. wish they would give out more keys. I heard from streamers they need to add way more people

[drowsy phoenix]

I have my launcher tab set to the beta so I can check if I get in

prolly not happening though

[slow pollen]

Would we just recieve an email?

And it would be the classic launcher right?

[daring thunder]

you can't get in

just tried it for you then, comes up with 'no servers are available'

[slow pollen]

breaks my heart. classic is only game i wanna play

not really interested in live wow atm

[daring thunder]

only 2 months to go

[slow pollen]

feels like eternity when you are trying to fill the time with other games that are not very very appealing

[daring thunder]

opposite for me, not enough time to play everything

classic will be here before we know it

[slow pollen]

lucky you man. Ive been trying dota for first time with friends, pubg, Poe lol

and so far no luck

[daring thunder]

rough, just don't forget about the character reservation thats coming

gotta snag those good names

[slow pollen]

when is that taking place? have a link?

[daring thunder]

https://www.wowhead.com/news=291719/claim-your-character-name-in-classic-character-creation-starts-august-12th-13th

[spark raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqHEKnBEOA

[plucky nymph]

Imagine picking a PVP server and then refusing to PVP 3head.

[lyric cradle]

That title is super clickbait

[plucky nymph]

It's 1.) a Youtube video, 2.) has Sodapoppin in the thumbnail, and 3.) ISN'T uploaded to his Youtube channel.

So yeah.

[lyric cradle]

And the only 'abuse' is using people's streams to snipe them

[spark raptor]

i think streamers being stream sniped on pvpservers is great

[drowsy phoenix]

I know on the stress test they shut down all the pve servers and the rp one

so if this is about regular beta then idk but stress had a clash at forest's edge

[fair carbon]

Funniest thing... if other people even hope to have a chance at scarab lord (even though the title didn’t exist)... they have to beat a swarm of streamers

Cause you already know they’re gonna get literally everything handed to them

[wraith parcel]

I mean, the streamer has to be in a guild that is willing to hand everything to them

Soda even said hes most likely not gonna stream

[fair carbon]

Like I’m all for streamers doing whatever the hell they want

But you know that Asmongoloid and his swarm of fans are gonna funnel him everything

[wraith parcel]

Well yeah, but hes also gonna have a swarm that tries to kill him

Having massive wpvp battles when you go out to mine most likely isnt that fun 😄

[fair carbon]

Hopefully

Wpvp would be hilarious

Since Asmon’s alliance you bet I’ll try to gank if I ever see him

I’ll probably end up on his server by accident anyway

[dusk crystal]

glad i wont be having that problem as european xd

but it would be glorious to kill him once

[plucky nymph]

...

[dusk crystal]

playing on a server full of streamers and their fanboys would ruin it

[fair carbon]

I mean EU will have similar problems

With European streamers

[dusk crystal]

maybe, none are as popular tho

[fair carbon]

Eh

Heaven forbid you join the realm with method on it

[dusk crystal]

method is method

[fair carbon]

Yeah

But they have popular streamers too

Quite a few actually

[dusk crystal]

yea guess so but their viewerbase i think is a bit different than Asmon

[wraith parcel]

Josh is pretty much eu asmon

But even then, he has far less veiwers

[dusk crystal]

will be funny to see either way, Asmon with an army of 500 ppl

[drowsy phoenix]

how am I supposed to build a guild if everyone wants to suck up to streamers

[daring thunder]

Just be a streamer

[wraith parcel]

I mean, the servers will have plenty of people, not everybody will be suckups

Or that is an even better solution

Big oce brain

[drowsy phoenix]

you overestimate my internet

[daring thunder]

Unfortunate

Play on an oce realm because we don't have streamers

[drowsy phoenix]

I'll become a community figure via general and LFG chat

[plucky nymph]

I mean there's one > _>

and he's pretty... special.

[fair carbon]

Become community figure by being default streamer for OCE

20000000 IQ

[daring thunder]

Become sb by doing nothing

[fair carbon]

Even higher IQ

[wraith parcel]

Theres always quin though

😄

[plucky nymph]

Bingo :3

[hybrid zealot]

I dont like him but iirc somewhere asmon is going pve

[plucky nymph]

You'd be an idiot not to in the beginning anyway, if you were them.

[drowsy phoenix]

chilling with the hordies in durotar cant really happen on a pvp server

[plucky nymph]

Sure it can, and did, and does.

[drowsy phoenix]

well what I mean is there's always that one prick

[daring thunder]

thats when you have your 4 rogue buddies sitting in stealth waiting for that one guy

[wraith parcel]

And then spam c c a f in chat

aka ooga

[daring thunder]

ooga booga

[fair carbon]

o o g a g a n g Z h i t

[drowsy phoenix]

what exactly is ooga gang

[wraith parcel]

https://youtu.be/wtThr78vpGU?t=50

[fair carbon]

The ooga gang is a godsend

Sniping streamers left and right

[drowsy phoenix]

streamer money is blood money

I really dont know whether I want to roll pve or pvp

[onyx stag]

Will rogues been a popular choice in Classic again like vanilla?

I sure hope not 😛

[exotic trellis]

ok so

tryhard pservers peeps say this all the time and I dont believe it one fucking bit

that any semi-serious guild's gonna mandate you doing DMT before raid time

[daring thunder]

huh

[exotic trellis]

Doing a dire maul tribute run before raid

[daring thunder]

for the buffs?

[exotic trellis]

yea

[onyx stag]

99% of the guilds won't even be using flasks until nax

[hybrid zealot]

well there are a lot of issues with buffs and stuff on pservers that don't quite work the same way as vanilla

some like you can't have onyx and nelth at the same time and you can only have it once per server within 24 hours or something. but on most pservers they have both up basically 100% of the time

flasks are used every tier cause the lotus spawns much more frequently

stuff like that

[weary island]

yeah world buffs aren't required especially in phase 1

just flask and you're gucci

[fair carbon]

Rogues are gonna be popular. IDK if they'll be as popular as warriors though

Probably though cause of how cheesy they are in 1v1 PVP

[delicate stone]

Rogue, Mage, Warrior, Priest are the 4 I see being most popular because of all we know now, though I'm curious how many will stick to it and how many will be relevant roles (tank/heal) within those outside rogue and mage.

[weary island]

i assume about 20% of the fresh warriors will make it to 60

everyone else is fine

[delicate stone]

Yeah. My friend and I have decided to go into it with him as a Warrior (tank) and myself as a Priest (Holy) to reflect what we did way back then, only knowing better now. Both of us had Rogue alts as well, which is endlessly funny to me.

[exotic trellis]

so like if you look at both private servers AND the classic wow beta

Rogues arent the 2nd most popular class like what everyone says about them

Mages, Priests, the faction specific classes, and occasionally hunters are just as popular as rogues

the only 2 consistences is that warrior is always #1 class, and druid is always least popular

[spark raptor]

Like, most guilds probably wont force to get DMN buffs. But if there are meleedps in your guild that do, you will look terrible.

Its super easy to get tho, and if its like on pservers, you just clear it once and then have the rest of the raid leech buffs off the same ID

[delicate stone]

"DMN"?

[fair carbon]

Dire Maul North

North?

[delicate stone]

Drawing a blank here. Also I dunno if DM is in the initial Classic release?

[fair carbon]

No

Phase after

[delicate stone]

👌

[fair carbon]

I believe DM and world bosses are p2

[delicate stone]

All I recall is every healer and their mother gunning for the [Mindtap Talisman] or w/e for that sweet, sweet 14mp/s or something effect.

[fair carbon]

Yeah basically

2x is pretty great

Oh wait nvm is unique

Rip

[delicate stone]

1 talisman and 1 talisman of ephemeral power was an ideal for most of the people in the guild I was in, caster and healer alike.

[fair carbon]

Actually no it isn’t unique

Whoa

[delicate stone]

😏

My alt got super lucky and attained the full Shadowcraft set during early MC, so I was "encouraged" to pursue that toon as a main

[fair carbon]

Lol

[delicate stone]

Ah well. #memories. I'll only have a Rogue for PvP in Classic.

[fair carbon]

Just play him until you get Thunderfury

Then leave and only PvP

[delicate stone]

I don't possess that level of ... what adjective is appropriate to describe someone who'd do that?

Which shows even more how unable I am to do that.

[fair carbon]

The adjective?

Sweaty?

[delicate stone]

Wow I am definitely not that sweaty of a person to steal a Thunderfury for PvP.

[fair carbon]

Lmao

But you’re a rogue dude

Gotta live up to stereotypes

[delicate stone]

You might be confusing Rogue with Hunter here, if we're speaking of weapon stealing.

[fair carbon]

Hmmmmm

At least a rogue will use it lol

[delicate stone]

Heh.

[fair carbon]

Thunderfury rogues were

The proc is absolutely disgusting

[delicate stone]

Right but would you mess with a Thunderfury/Rhok Hunter?

[fair carbon]

Yes

Because you’d just deadzone them to... well...

Death

[delicate stone]

I definitely did not understand how to exploit that back then, but I'm preeeety sure that Thunderfury procs a slow and if the Hunter is worth his salt, he'd Wingclip you immediately. I'm not sure deadzoning was as effective against Hunters who knew how to outplay that.

Then again > Aimed Shot with a slow bow = dead target.

[fair carbon]

https://classicdb.ch/?spell=21992

[delicate stone]

Ah -hah! It does proc a slow, but not the movement kind, lololol.

[fair carbon]

Mhm

And it procs

A lot.

[delicate stone]

I wonder if that Legendary necklace will be in the game as well?

[fair carbon]

The accidental one?

Probably not

[delicate stone]

Yeah.

[fair carbon]

It was an accident so it wasn’t actually a feature

So hardcore doubt it’ll be in

Same with green mech

[delicate stone]

Heh. With how "Accurate" Blizz wants to be with this, I'm surprised. I can't recall the patch that removed it though.

[fair carbon]

Well it didn’t actually exist

Like it wasn’t supposed to

It was removed before the raid released so

It got hotfixed as soon as it dropped

[delicate stone]

Pffffffbt, lol. Shows how little I actually knew of it at the time. Iirc it only gave some Fire resist along with a gaggle of stats.

Ah just looked it up.

[fair carbon]

It was about as garbo in terms of itemization as anything else in vanilla

[delicate stone]

Str/Agi/Stam with 19 Nat and Fire res seems preeeeeety 👌 though xD

[fair carbon]

Yeah

Like I played stress test and one of the rewards was a strength int staff

I’m gonna guild lead just so I can pull seniority on anything I want

[delicate stone]

Heh. I wonder if DKP will be back.

[fair carbon]

Anyone who uses that is wack

Stay away from them

Loot Council

[exotic trellis]

DKP is an archaic system

[fair carbon]

All day

[exotic trellis]

same with loot council

[fair carbon]

Oi

[delicate stone]

40man raids just seem... I mean without personal loot... I guess Loot Council or some variation of it will be the thing for drops?

[exotic trellis]

It should be like "who is it the biggest upgrade for, if there are any ties, roll it"

[fair carbon]

Don’t go messing with my loot council

[delicate stone]

Ain't that basically a council to determine the loot distribution?

A Loot Council, perhaps?

[fair carbon]

Yes.

[exotic trellis]

i guess its kinda like loot council

[delicate stone]

:3

[exotic trellis]

Loot Council implies like

[fair carbon]

It’s literally loot council

[exotic trellis]

There are a certain set of individuals in charge of handing out all the loot

[fair carbon]

[exotic trellis]

at least thats what I've seen from loot council

[fair carbon]

Yeah... like the people determining who it’s a bigger upgrade for

[exotic trellis]

like its fucking loot officers and bullshit

and then like people start accusing the council of favoritism and other bullshit

[fair carbon]

Like if it’s a big upgrade for billy but he sucks

[delicate stone]

Officer circle jerks for loot did annoy me back then.

[fair carbon]

Give it to the other guy

[exotic trellis]

and sometimes the officers are actually running a lil clique where they get all the loot

[delicate stone]

Then again I blew all my dkp on the quest item for Benediction

[fair carbon]

Nah like here’s the thing

I’ll LC as GM

But I’ll make sure stuff gets sorted

[exotic trellis]

yea but then people are gonna accuse you of favoritism

[fair carbon]

So people progress relatively evenly

I bash everyone in my guild

Lol

[exotic trellis]

Loot Council should probably be handled more as a raid collective

rather than by a specific subset of people

[fair carbon]

I bash literally everyone in my guild no matter how good or how bad

[exotic trellis]

People are smart enough to decide

[delicate stone]

I'd favor the players who put in the time/effort to be well geared pre-raid, lol.

[fair carbon]

^

Exactly

[exotic trellis]

whats a good MC sword

[fair carbon]

using swords

Nah kidding

[delicate stone]

If a player isn't performing well, point them to quest lines and the guild crafters for suitable upgrades.

[fair carbon]

1h or 2h?

[exotic trellis]

Ok fuck it I will instead use the name of

1h

"Generic 1 handed sword from MC thats really good"

[delicate stone]

I can't recall. I associate MC with a ton of 2-h drops like OEB.

[fair carbon]

Brutality Blade

[exotic trellis]

If some bitch ass rogue has both dal'rends, and is absolutely fucking killing it on his meter

And another bitch ass rogue has like mariah's song or idk good prebis swords that arent dalrends but anyways

And that rogue isnt quite performing as well

[fair carbon]

Krol Blade

[exotic trellis]

I'd give it to that dude not to the guy with dalrends

[fair carbon]

Ehhh

Like it depends

On activity and how much use they’ll get out of it

[exotic trellis]

Anyways now this is getting into semantics and all this

POINT BEING

fuck DKP

[delicate stone]

Gosh. Was Dal a drop or a craft? I can't recall. My point was distribute loot among a raid body composed of, ideally, people prepared to their upmost ability for the raid.

[exotic trellis]

And loot councils shouldnt be run by a specific set of loot officers

[fair carbon]

Loot distribution should be decided through who will actually make the most use of an item

LC should be run by trustworthy people

[exotic trellis]

and be decisions more of the whole raid team

[fair carbon]

Which is why communication is important

[exotic trellis]

To ensure there are no cliques

actually no theres always cliques

Some benign, some malevolent

there's cliques in my raid team right now

[fair carbon]

Yeah... dude... you just have the LC be run by people who are trusted guild wide

It’s that easy

Like LC is fine

[exotic trellis]

but theyre just people that hang out togehter a lot

Loot Drama is the single biggest fucking thing I'm scared of though

[delicate stone]

It will surely be a sight to see. I enjoy gear independence and early Vanilla offered that. Once AQ 40 rolled around, folks only got good gear through raiding.

[fair carbon]

Then just join a guild that isn’t dramatic

[exotic trellis]

That's kinda hard

ya dont know until it happens

[delicate stone]

Apple Staff from EPL? +30 to Int or some fucking high number like that? Hell yes let that carry me throughout MC and mostly through BWL.

[fair carbon]

Then deal with it and work with what you have

[exotic trellis]

also im raiding with my retail guild

[fair carbon]

Then there you go

[exotic trellis]

and i'd like to think that the 19 other gangsters who wiped to mythic jaina for a month wont get mad because I call dibs on Rhok'delar BITCHES

the other 20, kinda scared of that

[fair carbon]

Just prove that you should get it first

It’s that simple

[delicate stone]

Eesh, yeah, or how much the first Streamer will pay for their server's AQ gate opening.

[exotic trellis]

Maybe im just being scared because I've heard the horror stories

[fair carbon]

Yes.

[exotic trellis]

and that most guilds arent like this

[fair carbon]

You’re hearing about the minority

Like the extreme minority

[exotic trellis]

Especially with a guild that I got cutting edge with this past wednesday

[fair carbon]

If a guild is “corrupt” people leave

That’s why those stories typically end with the guild disbanding

Or getting shunned server wide

[delicate stone]

What's the go-to for Rogues approaching lv 60? I can't recall the goal or item back then. Heartseeker comes to mind, but I recall Swords being a good alternative to Daggers.

Pre-MC, like crafted or from dungeons.

[fair carbon]

Swords are insanely good

[exotic trellis]

Combat Swords is the meta raiding build

especially alliance side

[fair carbon]

Yes

[delicate stone]

Man that's so odd to me.

[fair carbon]

Swords are meta

[exotic trellis]

Combat tree is

really fucking good for raiding

[delicate stone]

So many folks were vicous when it came to dagger drops in MC.

[fair carbon]

Because combat daggers

Is also good

[exotic trellis]

And the extra hit% from sword specialization pushes it over maces and daggers

Although Combat Daggers is also a good raiding build

[delicate stone]

Well, I'll be Dwarf Priest soo.....

[fair carbon]

Rogues have like 4 good builds by the end

[exotic trellis]

ok I need to talk about this

[delicate stone]

:X

[fair carbon]

Seal Fate swords

[exotic trellis]

are you picking dwarf priest because you like how dwarves look

[fair carbon]

He just wants Stoneform

[exotic trellis]

and like the aesthetic/animations/whatever

or are you doing it cuz ur a meta bitch and think fear ward is mandatory for you to get a raid spot

[fair carbon]

Also true

[delicate stone]

I like how Dwarves look. I want to throw up my hands. I wanted to go Alliance but my friends wanted Horde, and I wanted to play with friends more than by myself. I'm the one deciding which faction we all roll this time around 😏

[exotic trellis]

This is actually a serious topic that I want to dissuade people from because WOW is in the end: a Role Playing Game

Alright

thats cool

[fair carbon]

Nah it’s a meta minmaxing game

Duh

[exotic trellis]

Like: I'm going night elf if I play a rogue

[fair carbon]

Everyone just go orc and human

Easy

[delicate stone]

Was either Human Priest or Dwarf and I just like how armor sets on Dwarves more than Humans.

[fair carbon]

All the other races are garbo

[exotic trellis]

Whenever i See people go races JUST because of racials it makes me really sad

[delicate stone]

Also uh... I'd do a Dwarf Rogue xD

[exotic trellis]

Especially when people on r/classicwow encourage that type of behaviour

[fair carbon]

I mean half of my guild is going certain race for racials

Because why not?

[exotic trellis]

are yall a bunch of tryhards

[fair carbon]

Eh

Not really

[delicate stone]

I'm pretty sure most of the folks I'll be playing with will be a Dwarf. This is all due to D&D shit we got up to growing up and just loving them in general.

[fair carbon]

I mean I’m going undead cause of WotF in PvP and animations are best

Most are going orc cause of Blood Fury

Extra damage is always good

[delicate stone]

Why be a Human when we're humans? That's boring lets go be Orc and Tauren - Their mentality in 2004.

Now it's: "I wanna be a stout, drunk bastard swinging an axe or some shit. Come at me."

[fair carbon]

Also 25% to resist stuns is perfect

If we were ally I’d go Human cause of weapon skill

[exotic trellis]

my friends are all going alliance

so im going alliance

and im primarily playing night elves

even night elf priest

suck it

[fair carbon]

Nelfs are meme tbh

Only look nice that’s about it

[delicate stone]

It's really still a fight between Human and Dwarf for me. It's my Roleplayer vs Powergamer. Human is the Power Play due to the Spirit and Reputation bonus and Dwarf is the Role Play due to personal reasons.

[fair carbon]

Why are you doing strikethrough on everything?

[delicate stone]

Discord text editing is fascinating to me and I don't get to indulge in it anywhere else.

[fair carbon]

Microsoft Word

Anyway

[delicate stone]

:D

[fair carbon]

I’m off cause I gotta be up at 8

[delicate stone]

Good luck. I'm off as well but for a slightly later wakeup.

[hexed grotto]

i played a rogue through all of wow, start at launch, im playing a rogue again in classic... but im realyl struggling with keeping my NE char or rolling a more minmax race

[exotic trellis]

See my above statements on my opinion of picking a race based off of racials

[wraith parcel]

Starshards

[wet atlas]

Shadowmelt best racial

[fair carbon]

“Shadowmelt”

Nah I think that’s more BFA... they definitely got melted there

[hexed grotto]

while i agree the RP aspect of it, ultimately its player preference as to what they want from the char

if someone wants to tryhard and go for racials during creation then go for it...

my issue is rectifying nostalgia vs future regret

and frankly, classic is a different beast than vanilla was... no one back then really, really understood the game like we do today

[plucky nymph]

Nah we understood it. > _>

[hexed grotto]

so back then the RP, play whatever you want made alot more sense

[plucky nymph]

Shadowmeld was shit then, is shit in Classic if you have Stealth of basically any kind.

[exotic trellis]

Shadowmeld in classic was the equivalent to having 2 points into Master of Deception.

for a rogue, at least

[hexed grotto]

yes

NE rogues could hide in WSG no problem 😃

[exotic trellis]

For reference, human racial was like taking away 10 points of Master of Deception

Also about the racial stuff, I jsut dont want that kind of behavior to be encouraged

especially reading posts on r/classicwow and private server forums

[plucky nymph]

o _O

[exotic trellis]

i've told people on that sub that 305 vs 310 weaponskill is like a 1.8% DPS increase and taht you shouldnt value that in exchange for playing a race that you dont like

[hexed grotto]

tell that to all the youtubers and racial guides doing the exact opposite

[plucky nymph]

o _O

[exotic trellis]

yea and thats what im saying

i dont like that kind of encouragement

[hexed grotto]

no different than D&D ever was

your first char is made from your heart

your next few chars tend to be min-maxed

when you get enough skill, you start making chars you want to play again

or rather, chars that dont min max based on racials or stats

[hybrid zealot]

I hate that people are playing the game different than me and they should all value what I value and play how I play -CrazyMuffin

[drowsy phoenix]

so stress test servers argued about this until it shut down: is deadmines DM or VC?

[wraith parcel]

I dont understand how this even is a discussion, you dont call any other dungeon by the name of the last boss

So why would you for deadmines

"LFM Aku'mai need 1 healer" (thats bfd btw)

[daring thunder]

LFM Kel'Thuzad

[drowsy phoenix]

https://youtu.be/iEWgs6YQR9A

[weary island]

@wraith parcel mostly because DM can also mean dire maul

[wraith parcel]

Well dire maul also has a cardinal direction following the acronym

[exotic trellis]

doesnt matter, most people looking to do deadmines are already in westfall anyways

If you call it DM or VC you're usually doing it in westfall so.

[weary island]

/world chat

[drowsy phoenix]

/join LookingForGroup

[weary island]

That's world chat

Lol

[drowsy phoenix]

d'oh

[shadow tapir]

After dire Maul was released it was called VC in vanilla

Remember seeing people saying LFM DM in West fall and people saying “it’s VC!”

Irrelevant now though

[tepid terrace]

It's just so weird to me to call a dungeon by its last boss' name

[shadow tapir]

Yeah it is, dunno any other instance of that

[tepid terrace]

dm and DM would sound better imo

[weary island]

yea but then what one is what

[spark raptor]

As said above, nobody clears all of dire maul in one go, so you have DMW, DMN, DME

[vocal hornet]

I grinded DM for the mp5 trinket back in the day. oy. it was a long go.

[ornate jetty]

I didnt know that dropped in deadmines 🙃

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 61 days 12 hours 54 minutes 42 secounds

[ruby bridge]

only 61 days boys

[acoustic heath]

still 61 days

[daring thunder]

!classic

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WoW Classic release: 61 days 2 hours 22 minutes 0 secounds

[urban rapids]

!classic

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WoW Classic release: 60 days 8 hours 47 minutes 40 secounds

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!classic

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WoW Classic release: 59 days 17 hours 27 minutes 6 secounds

[weak salmon]

Typing !classic in this chat daily won't make it release faster, guys.

[scenic linden]

What about hourly?

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 59 days 16 hours 20 minutes 26 secounds

[acoustic heath]

[lime arrow]

@weak salmon but yesterday it was 60 days and now it's 59

[devout pendant]

the six is gone

but it'll return in three days

[weak salmon]

@lime arrow 🤔 🤔 🤔

[weary island]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 59 days 13 hours 53 minutes 40 secounds

[weary island]

[acoustic heath]

[fair carbon]

Sub 60 days

[loud tree]

[drowsy phoenix]

I got messaged by a classic wow boosting organization asking if I would be interested in boosting people

[fair carbon]

Lulwut

Jesus Christ

[shadow tapir]

50k annual and I’d do it

[lime arrow]

@drowsy phoenix same

[pearl drum]

Hahaha thats solid salary for playing wow

Just gotta live somewhere cheap

[drowsy phoenix]

ahem

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 58 days 4 hours 58 minutes 35 secounds

[fair carbon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 57 days 23 hours 56 minutes 37 secounds

[fair carbon]

Is it over!?

[drowsy phoenix]

day -58 is over

next!

[somber sun]

!classic

[drowsy phoenix]

hmmm

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 57 days 3 hours 41 minutes 15 secounds

[weak salmon]

This bot command was a mistake

Every time I see a new message in this channel, I'm expecting some meaningful discussion

And that's what I get

! classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 57 days 2 hours 33 minutes 53 secounds

[drowsy phoenix]

nice, one less hour

[weak salmon]

...

[fair carbon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 57 days 1 hours 55 minutes 40 secounds

[fair carbon]

38 minutes shaved off

[drowsy phoenix]

big pogs

[hybrid zealot]

!classic I dont even care about the wait just feel like doing it

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 57 days 0 hours 17 minutes 53 secounds

[onyx stag]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 56 days 18 hours 17 minutes 23 secounds

[drowsy phoenix]

this is the content I'm looking for

[dreamy flame]

why remove the reaction img

[acoustic heath]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 56 days 4 hours 23 minutes 56 secounds

[acoustic heath]

[fallen panther]

Ded game already

[vocal hornet]

My beta rogue made it to lvl 14. RIP

Ill make classic to 18 at least.

[sharp oriole]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 56 days 2 hours 3 minutes 45 secounds

[sharp oriole]

K, I just wanted to fit in.

Seeing that its 56 days away though is starting to make my skin itchy

[hybrid zealot]

Should get that checked out

[sharp oriole]

Developed an allergy to 8.2 and BFA.

[hybrid zealot]

thats weird

[fair carbon]

cough

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 55 days 19 hours 49 minutes 38 secounds

[acoustic heath]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 55 days 15 hours 38 minutes 50 secounds

[loud tree]

doing gods work

[drowsy phoenix]

it's getting closer

[scenic linden]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 55 days 14 hours 13 minutes 17 secounds

[daring thunder]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 55 days 14 hours 7 minutes 54 secounds

[loud tree]

[balmy crane]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 55 days 12 hours 41 minutes 23 secounds

[spark raptor]

!tbc

:(

Also nice typo, moroes

[bright matrix]

Secounds

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 55 days 8 hours 41 minutes 25 seconds

[ruby bridge]

fixed

[fair carbon]

Nah it was right! Goutta throuw randoum u’s in

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 54 days 21 hours 50 minutes 22 seconds

[vivid stirrup]

were rogues in pve relevant or were they just very strong in pvp ?

in classic

i never played rogue but i am considering rolling one for classic hearing about how amazing they were back then

[hybrid zealot]

They are the one of the most stacked classes in raids along with mages and warrior

Mages warrior and rogues make up over half the raid group ideally.

[drowsy phoenix]

https://classic.wowhead.com/news=293313/closed-classic-beta-ends-july-12th-next-stress-test-july-25th?webhook

[ruby bridge]

wasnt it hunter? i remember a lot of hunters

[acoustic heath]

hunters are good pre raid, they don't scale that well tho

while rogue , warriors and mages scale very well with better raid gear

[vivid stirrup]

Good to know thanks!

[plucky nymph]

Rogue is pretty booty in the mid-range, good in the beginning because we get hit and weapon skill basically for free.

Then later we're fighting Mages for the meter and everyone kinda blows ass.

[spark raptor]

Rogue is strong throughout, meters for mages post aq40 are inflated because of fire spec

[fallen panther]

Your girlfriend is inflated. Mages are just superior to you sneaky cowards

[acoustic heath]

[fallen panther]

Kinda yeah. Although I did indeed play mage in vanilla

[acoustic heath]

because you stink

[fallen panther]

[spark raptor]

MORE FUEL TO THE FLAMES! NOW!

[fallen panther]

Imagine having no aoe tho

[acoustic heath]

yea imagine having a game where classes are individual and not everyone can do the same

[fallen panther]

That does sound damn good

Homogenization be damned

[hybrid zealot]

Imagine a game where not everyone can do the same and is still relatively balanced

hmmmmm sounds familiar

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 52 days 5 hours 20 minutes 23 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

we missed like two days

damn tragedy

[fallen panther]

No one cares anymore. Dead game

[drowsy phoenix]

qq

[acoustic heath]

[cold citrus]

! classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 51 days 9 hours 35 minutes 50 seconds

[tulip shard]

!Classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 51 days 0 hours 20 minutes 31 seconds

[fair carbon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 50 days 18 hours 0 minutes 10 seconds

[haughty plover]

Does any in-depth resource exist for Rogues in classic wow? Outside of shadowpanther

[loud tree]

https://classic.wowhead.com/guides/rogue-dps-classic-wow

[acoustic heath]

yea the wowhead guide is probably the best source atm

[daring thunder]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 49 days 15 hours 26 minutes 15 seconds

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 49 days 1 hours 35 minutes 7 seconds

[acoustic heath]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 47 days 15 hours 55 minutes 53 seconds

[acoustic heath]

[drowsy phoenix]

it comes

[fair carbon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 47 days 2 hours 47 minutes 57 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

cracks knuckles

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 46 days 15 hours 6 minutes 18 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

?cissalc

[onyx stag]

ɔᴉssɐlɔ¡

[fair carbon]

What lovely banter here in the classic chat. I think I will add to it

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 46 days 14 hours 38 minutes 59 seconds

[fallen panther]

Dead game

[acoustic heath]

no u

[fallen panther]

[drowsy phoenix]

almost done casting redemption on classic

[fallen panther]

Don't get your hopes up, classic is gonna keep standing in fire first chance it gets

[delicate stone]

What thing do you wanna do in Classic that you may or may not've done in the past, or wanna do if this is your first experience with Vanilla WoW?

For me, it's push rep with factions I didn't, or wasn't on top of, like the Furbolgs in Felwood.

[drowsy phoenix]

dire maul rep baby

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 45 days 21 hours 28 minutes 45 seconds

[fair carbon]

A thing I want to do in classic that I didn't do in the past is

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 45 days 18 hours 18 minutes 54 seconds

[acoustic heath]

Play the freaking game!

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 45 days 15 hours 32 minutes 33 seconds

[cold citrus]

! classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 45 days 13 hours 18 minutes 45 seconds

[stoic cairn]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 45 days 7 hours 26 minutes 39 seconds

[raven snow]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 45 days 2 hours 29 minutes 49 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 45 days 0 hours 38 minutes 58 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

https://classic.wowhead.com/news=293828/classic-closed-beta-shuts-down-today-july-12th-5-00-pm?webhook

three hours then we're all in the same boat

[weary island]

beta has been dead for months

stupid level cap

there were like 30-40 people online at max level

[onyx stag]

Going to assume they capped it to avoid burn out

but ultimately the beta ran for way too long

[cold citrus]

! classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 44 days 2 hours 9 minutes 10 seconds

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 43 days 8 hours 55 minutes 13 seconds

[ruby bridge]

only 40 days 👀

[raven snow]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 43 days 3 hours 32 minutes 33 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 42 days 17 hours 20 minutes 26 seconds

[nimble seal]

How do rogues in classic do pve dps

[plucky nymph]

Well.

[scenic linden]

Attacking generally.

[nimble seal]

nice

I'll go swords sin or combat daggers xD

well actually

Combat daggers h

Vs combat swords on humans

Ree

[plucky nymph]

ok

[nimble seal]

Ty for help ur the new best

Mizerok

[spark raptor]

It blows my mind every time people come in here, excited for vanilla pve dagger spec xD

[daring thunder]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 42 days 13 hours 21 minutes 51 seconds

[daring thunder]

i am excited for when that hits 0

[balmy crane]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 42 days 5 hours 0 minutes 28 seconds

[hidden basin]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 41 days 22 hours 12 minutes 22 seconds

[hidden basin]

getting there boys

[austere grotto]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 41 days 2 hours 24 minutes 4 seconds

[fair carbon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 40 days 12 hours 2 minutes 24 seconds

[daring thunder]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 40 days 2 hours 23 minutes 25 seconds

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 39 days 10 hours 11 minutes 19 seconds

[fair carbon]

Sub 40 days

[spark raptor]

More days left than subtlety players in pve

[midnight gust]

[drowsy phoenix]

[weak salmon]

@spark raptor wonder which number would reach 0 first

[daring thunder]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 39 days 0 hours 57 minutes 28 seconds

[daring thunder]

@spark raptor I felt the 5 remaining sub players cry from that

[drowsy phoenix]

4

[spark raptor]

we need with a tear as icon tbh

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[spark raptor]

its cancelled guys

[fair carbon]

Classic was just a ruse

It was actually just trying to build up hype for the release of the new WoW mission table game

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 37 days 23 hours 35 minutes 59 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

WOOOO

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 37 days 15 hours 4 minutes 28 seconds

[fair carbon]

More wonderful banter!

I shall add to it

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 37 days 15 hours 0 minutes 10 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

a fine addition

[fair carbon]

Quite

[hidden basin]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 37 days 8 hours 28 minutes 10 seconds

[hidden basin]

getting there boys

[loud tree]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 36 days 17 hours 37 minutes 3 seconds

[raven snow]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 35 days 19 hours 30 minutes 57 seconds

[daring thunder]

!cissalc

shame

[fair carbon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 35 days 17 hours 11 minutes 21 seconds

[hexed grotto]

phooey to all those going swords

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 35 days 4 hours 11 minutes 54 seconds

[raven snow]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 34 days 7 hours 56 minutes 7 seconds

[urban rapids]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 34 days 7 hours 47 minutes 10 seconds

[hybrid zealot]

This is kind of how I expect classic to be after initial wave dies down chats just full of !classic

[hidden basin]

WIll people sim stuff in Classic?

[hybrid zealot]

Most classic sims have been done years ago

And there's not much diversity in items as there is now that's why bis lists were so easy and exist

[hidden basin]

Yeah that's true

No reason to sim when it's already known and played through

less stats as well

[spark raptor]

Oprimizing gear for combat duration might be a thing

+rotation

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 33 days 7 hours 42 minutes 11 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 32 days 14 hours 5 minutes 59 seconds

[fair carbon]

Ah yes

I nearly forgot

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 32 days 14 hours 4 minutes 55 seconds

[hidden basin]

Almost a month

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 32 days 0 hours 47 minutes 46 seconds

[weak salmon]

How many of you guys here are planning to roll a class other than rogue?

[drowsy phoenix]

pally on the side

maybe another thing

[glossy portal]

I still can't decide what to roll. I know that I can't invest time in game anymore as I did even 5 years back. I am not sure if shitty geared rogue is what I want to roll with. Other options sound tempting too, especially because all classes just feel so much different unlike now.

[weak salmon]

I'm really torn between mage and rogue

[glossy portal]

I have been looking at hunter a lot too. I really dig hunter pet mechanics in vanilla/tbc era

Mained hunter in tbc. And it's well suited for my planned play schedule.

But rogue is love.

[spark raptor]

Rogue gear is rly easy to get by casually raiding, especially if your guild is high on fury warriors and low on rogues

[glossy portal]

oh, I will keep that in mind because I like being the sneaky ducker, that's my thing since wotlk 😄

[spark raptor]

On horde side youll probably even have swords to yourself

Its just that youll need patience, but thats true for everyone except hunters, druids and tanks xD

[fallen panther]

ITT: patience = you'll be sick of the boring old game way before you'll ever get it

[loud tree]

ok

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 31 days 7 hours 7 minutes 16 seconds

[unkempt cove]

!classic

🤔

1 month to go

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 30 days 10 hours 46 minutes 56 seconds

[weak salmon]

! classic

[ruby bridge]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 30 days 7 hours 6 minutes 43 seconds

[ruby bridge]

under 1 month hype

[fair carbon]

[fallen panther]

You think you do....

[fair carbon]

||But you don’t ||

[junior marsh]

https://i.redd.it/derzwpkawtc31.png

[spark raptor]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 29 days 23 hours 43 minutes 0 seconds

[fair carbon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 29 days 22 hours 14 minutes 55 seconds

[fair carbon]

[drowsy phoenix]

my god those all played out of sync

[fair carbon]

Oh my

Fucking

[weak salmon]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 28 days 9 hours 28 minutes 11 seconds

[acoustic heath]

less than a month

[hexed grotto]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 28 days 6 hours 51 minutes 21 seconds

[dense phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 27 days 22 hours 17 minutes 27 seconds

[hollow badger]

blizz messed WoW up so bad they are trying to go back in time (vanilla) to save it

it's like the opposite of evolution

[plucky nymph]

No that would be literally evolution.

But, OK.

[hollow badger]

wrong

[plucky nymph]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 26 days 23 hours 43 minutes 3 seconds

[plucky nymph]

uhhuh

[unkempt cove]

Classic will be cool for a month or so then the hype will die and it will just be a niche community

Which is probably a good thing anyways

[magic flicker]

tbh i think classic will be more about the community than the game itself. the whole concept is just so different from retail, that i think classic will keep having its place.

but, we'll see. either way, i think it's a good thing to bring back classic. more things to enjoy if you are into it.

[hybrid zealot]

I mean he's right. Most people who start in launch are not expected to stay. That's why at launch they are doing layering.
And community is all nice and well but the game doesnt really age that well. And people have many other games available to them and the internet mentality as a whole is different. I mean dont get me wrong. I think I'm going to dabble a bit but I think many people are over hyping themselves

[blissful locust]

just hope that people will have fun with it, there is a community that wanted it for years, and some people will probably stay too

and its quite possible that some of the older stuff could get into retail again if they notice that people like it

just let people have fun with the version of the game they prefer, its good that they finally do it, and its basicly 2games for 1sub, so nobody is losing at all 😄

[hybrid zealot]

I mean no one is saying that people can't have fun playing wow. I just made an objective statement

[spark raptor]

you made an assumption. it does not line up with my experience on pservers, the game aged fairly well in my opinion

[plucky nymph]

Private Servers aren't paid servers

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 25 days 15 hours 1 minutes 58 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

nice

[plucky nymph]

We need a !quitclassic command as well.

That just adds 10 days to the !classic counter.

[drowsy phoenix]

stop you cant do this

too much power

[blissful locust]

@spark raptor im really not sure if most pservers would be called a sucess for most companys, beside the fact that most pservers are not 100%vanilla too, quite often they fix/change stuff a bit

and the fact that people played psevers cus it was (mostly)free

[hybrid zealot]

Lol

[blissful locust]

probably worded that bad, mean it more like''there are people that played it because it was free'',not everyone ofc

[ruby bridge]

!classic OHH how long do i need to wait?

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 25 days 0 hours 14 minutes 17 seconds

[acoustic heath]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-classic-pre-launch-test-11-00-a-m-pdt-august-8-and-minimum-specs/239621

last stress test announced

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-07-29-a-big-wow-classic-interview-in-the-lead-up-to-launch

they gonna make layering larger on live aswell

[loud tree]

[acoustic heath]

so we can all see each other

[ruby bridge]

world of warcraft logo on twitch is already updated for classic 😃

[cold citrus]

! classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 24 days 6 hours 15 minutes 5 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 24 days 2 hours 37 minutes 31 seconds

[random marlin]

what azerite traits are you guys going to use in classic?

[plucky nymph]

The one where the level 50 items are better for me for 2 raid tiers than the items that drop there.

[spark raptor]

the warrior life

[drowsy phoenix]

leather warrior

[acoustic heath]

Gonna play hunter and roll on everything

[plucky nymph]

[loud tree]

[plucky nymph]

[loud tree]

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 23 days 14 hours 39 minutes 34 seconds

[loud tree]

!classic

[ornate cape]

Okay, at least one of yall should be able to give me an answer to this question because I cant seem to find a good one online but If I go human rogue I was told to use swords in my build since I benefit with them from my passive. If that is the case why do all classes not use swords by default because they seem to usually be better than daggers.

[signal ember]

Because rogue combat talent can give you up to 5% chance to extra swing attack

with sword

mace is stun, axe/dagger is crit

so human racial already give you points in sword expertise, human is typically a solid choice in vanilla for rogue

[hushed laurel]

There are also plenty of good swords. Ignoring TF, lots of great sword options almost every tier.

Though combat daggers give a you almost 0 loot competition

[ornate cape]

Also is night elf as useless on a rogue in classic as everyone says because that's kind of what I want to roll

[hushed laurel]

It ain't great, but you'll still get raid spots. Consider daggers since humans will have sword priority over you.

[dire niche]

yup, I'll be rolling a human rogue in classic based off of the racial sword benefit for combat

[drowsy phoenix]

nelves get stronger stealth I believe

anyway

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 22 days 21 hours 11 minutes 33 seconds

[hushed laurel]

stronger stealth by 1 level and 1% dodge

[acoustic heath]

yea nightelves are probably the worst alliance race for rogues, human is better in pve, dwarves and gnomes are better in pvp

[loud tree]

nelf for that RP..or something

[spark raptor]

youre not making money as nelf with erp unless youre dealing with ear fetishists. human bust has a wider appeal

[loud tree]

[hushed laurel]

Nelfs have sweet flips and easy access to darkshore, thas bout it

Though darkshore being the friggen best only partially makes up for teldrassil being an awful questing zone

[drowsy phoenix]

I can feint into backflip as nelf, sold 100%

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 22 days 3 hours 53 minutes 16 seconds

[hushed laurel]

That's like...

[urban rapids]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 21 days 23 hours 34 minutes 21 seconds

[drowsy phoenix]

can we get a command that counts down until character creation time?

[hushed laurel]

4 days till the final stress test too, which is semi hype

[acoustic heath]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 21 days 15 hours 9 minutes 55 seconds

[acoustic heath]

[lavish berry]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 21 days 5 hours 44 minutes 26 seconds

[lavish berry]

I still don't know waht I'm even gonna play in Classic

[hushed laurel]

Roll a dice, reroll on paladin

[onyx stag]

Hows Sub as a dps in dungeons vs combat?

(vanilla)

Like being a super filthy casual, I will mostly be running 5mans and pvp, so sub is the go to spec when I'm 60 maybe

[loud tree]

no aoe, but you can CC trash packs better i guess
and hemo debuff

[onyx stag]

or, is combat pvp spec more viablo to pve with

[loud tree]

combat pvp is just moving some sin talents to subt

mostly, i think

seal fate is probably the best spec if you wanna pvp and pve. at least the most enjoyable at both i think

[onyx stag]

I'm a little bit of a noob in terms of vanilla specs, wasn't seal fate a geared crit build?

[loud tree]

yeah, it's crit dependent, so not rly viable immediately at 60

i think i'm going to go combat and just try to make combat work in pvp somehow

[onyx stag]

those dirty disarms tho

I think I've seen Ming play combat fist in vanilla pvp vids

[loud tree]

lol i was just about to mention him

[onyx stag]

but not sure how it compares to sub

[loud tree]

only decent vid i've seen on it

double cold blood evisc is too strong at fresh gear 60

so sub pvp is definitely the best, im sure it can work in dungeons. stuff will die anyway, right

[onyx stag]

Yeah I was thinking in 5mans I can just spam some backstab maybe

spread some ruptures

[loud tree]

sub pve bois here we come

i guess it's worth it for the sake of enjoying pvp actually

[onyx stag]

its hard to know how good it is, obviously lack of blade flurry padding people might call you out

but sub is goodness

[loud tree]

i'll probably be a combat slave

[daring thunder]

[onyx stag]

maybe do a sneaky hemo build with sinister strike talent points

[loud tree]

blade flurry too good for gold farming

[onyx stag]

if I am being honest, ill probably also just stay combat and cover my pvp weaknesses with maybe engineering and pots

[loud tree]

just gonna die to mages more in pvp

i'll have escape artist though

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 20 days 18 hours 34 minutes 53 seconds

[onyx stag]

ill spec improved sprint

[loud tree]

oh yeah, that too

[onyx stag]

gonna be a dank male undead

hit them with a sap canebelize macro

in stealth*

or vanish canebelize

[loud tree]

it's like a second bandage. so good for 1vX fights

best part is you don't even need a corpse, just a skele on the ground

so world pvp spots that are littered with skeles you can use it anywhere there almost

[onyx stag]

I didnt get to abuse the ability in vanilla as I only played from silithus patch

but I did use it a lot in arena in TBC onward, it really screws with people because you just gouge and run to a corpse then vanish canebelize and bam, you're nearly full hp.

[loud tree]

for sure

if i wasn't alliance/gnome, i'd be undead as well

[onyx stag]

ultimately if I had to go alliance, id probably go human

but gnomes are pretty nice for racials

[loud tree]

human is definitely the best if you're doing pvp and pve, but i just like the small hitbox and i'm too used to escape artist at this point

[daring thunder]

gnome

[loud tree]

[daring thunder]

probably going to be hummie

[loud tree]

solid choice

[daring thunder]

if we end up playing horde then probably orc

[onyx stag]

I used to have a gnome rogue back in wrath that I twinked out, had a macro to you yell alliance to horde translation "You can't catch me I'm the ginger bread man!!"

[loud tree]

haha

[onyx stag]

and just kept running away

good chats gents and ladies, going to work, cya

[daring thunder]

[loud tree]

peace

[acoustic heath]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 20 days 17 hours 20 minutes 10 seconds

[acoustic heath]

man, I want to play alli but I have to play horde

[loud tree]

the alliance shall miss you

[acoustic heath]

gonna play a filthy orc

[loud tree]

hmm, interesting avatar
almost got me

[acoustic heath]

wdym it nearly got you

[loud tree]

i was fooled, ngl

[acoustic heath]

fooled in what sense

[loud tree]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 20 days 17 hours 3 minutes 27 seconds

[acoustic heath]

[loud tree]

https://gyazo.com/f6256e12514adea8d95a4fd4cd5239ac

must be bugged on my end lol sorry

thought zine was messing around

[acoustic heath]

nah I was messing around with him and forgot to rename back

that's what you meant, I was confused for a bit

[loud tree]

😉

thought zine was avatar copycat trolling in here

[acoustic heath]

[loud tree]

back to our regularly scheduled !classic

[acoustic heath]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 20 days 16 hours 52 minutes 52 seconds

[rare nest]

@loud tree combat is the go to pve spec, whether swords or daggers. It wouldn't be a sub hemo spec. If you are pvping as well, than youd probably go into hemo. You really wouldn't wanna touch a CB/Prep or Seal Fate spec with daggers until probably BWL daggers/gear, maybe even later.

[loud tree]

oh okay

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 20 days 6 hours 43 minutes 2 seconds

[loud tree]

https://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/1107243-reserve-your-name-in-wow-classic-on-august-12-at-300-pm-pdt/

"We will release details regarding realm names and realm types later this week"

[hushed laurel]

and end to the endless speculation on the amount of servers is exciting, plus most streamers will release their servers so youll be able to dodge those

[loud tree]

for sure. will help everyone organize where they'll play together

[acoustic heath]

you are all NA plebs right?

[soft hornet]

Yes

[loud tree]

yep

[weak salmon]

Of course not :)

[zealous ingot]

Is there a good horde leveling guide? Sorry if this question has been asked a bunch..

[hushed laurel]

https://www.joanasworld.com/azeroth.htm

[drowsy phoenix]

!classic

[tall rivet]

WoW Classic release: 19 days 17 hours 51 minutes 45 seconds

[gray abyss]

hello

how are you ?

i have a question

i have downloaded classic wow . buy it says not playable yet . is there anything wrong with my mac ?

thanks

[daring thunder]

not sure if trolling

[acoustic heath]

It releases on the 27th

[drowsy phoenix]

sub role checks out

[gray abyss]

thank you @acoustic heath

[acoustic heath]

[loud tree]

[plucky nymph]

US Friend-finder:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/get-started-finding-people-here/215459

EU Friend-finder:
https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/get-started-finding-people-here/66824

[keen marsh]

How good are rogues in classic compared to fury warriors?

[hushed laurel]

Nothing is as good as fury warriors, because lolragescaling, but rogues are still great dps. Usually better than mages unless they get a sexy ignite rolling.

[keen marsh]

Oh I thought mages were like fury warriors

Where they both are kings interesting

Ok thanks

[hushed laurel]

Mages are the good caster dps, but they take until AQ to actually become good

[keen marsh]

Rogue looks really fun but all of the abilities seem so expensive

[hushed laurel]

Yah, don't expect exciting gameplay outta basically anything XD

[keen marsh]

I haven’t looked at the talent calculator yet but I’ve seen a few builds just don’t know which one reduced costs lol

Ok lol

Is the stealth talent ever taken in a raid build? For faster movement in stealth? (Or leas punished for going stealth)

[hushed laurel]

Probably not, but I dunno, im tanking for my guild

[keen marsh]

Oh I see

[brittle tendon]

Got my account of 2005 recovered today 😃

[hushed laurel]

I'm still trying to recover mine. It got hacked and used as bot spam so it's a drawn out process

Still got hope though

[brittle tendon]

good luck dude

[blissful locust]

the gnome looks so happy

[hushed laurel]

He's been standing there for 14 years, his eyes are prolly frozen like that

[drowsy phoenix]

I joked about this but

https://classic.wowhead.com/news=294303/rp-pvp-realms-coming-to-wow-classic?webhook

[daring thunder]

its a comin brother

[drowsy phoenix]

!stresstestaugust8th

!myguildissuddenlyraidingagainduringstresstest

!pog