#assassination

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fleet whale
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you can use both at the same time

grizzled jay
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Don't need to kite if you just kill the pack before he gets that high

fleet whale
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unless if they changed that

stable gazelle
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So what is the best corruption set to run right now with max cloak

low girder
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in what context

balmy condor
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max exped3 in every slot for raids
severe3 till 55-60% and then strike3 for m+
severe3 till 55-60% and then versatiles for 26+ m+
full gushing in pvp

grizzled jay
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is full gushing in M+ acceptable

balmy condor
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not really

grizzled jay
fleet whale
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you would have better luck with full expedient in M+ compared to gushing

balmy condor
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yeh

low girder
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better buy it right now

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could be your last chance before prepatch

grizzled jay
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expedient in 2020

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full crit/tendies baby

uncut schooner
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@balmy condor Assa feels kinda bad on PTR

balmy condor
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unlucky

grizzled jay
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define feels

balmy condor
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I just managed to get onto PTR like 20 minutes ago

grizzled jay
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do you just mean it is playing slower, cause that's to be expected

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but i think fundamentally it plays the same as it does now, but with some better QoL

uncut schooner
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Tis slow.

fallow otter
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If it feels slow, make sure you have snd up

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Lol

balmy condor
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also vigor/alacrity

grizzled jay
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Sin is the slow spec

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Lucid just artificially sped it up

fallow otter
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Fuck snd

balmy condor
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lucid still exists on ptr

grizzled jay
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tru

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it should play the same as 8.0-8.1 sin

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or i guess 8.2 really

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pre-patch will go back to full crit DD POG

balmy condor
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it'll be faster than that

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alacrity is a lot of haste

grizzled jay
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ye tru

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guild moved to 3 raid days to try and get CE before pre-patch lands

fallow otter
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Where you dying

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Getting past both realms?

grizzled jay
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not yet

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still doing psychus 1

balmy condor
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@uncut schooner you trippin homie

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this feels so smooth

grizzled jay
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yah it feels fine on beta

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try out Blindside

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it feels so nice

balmy condor
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too much haste

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way too much haste

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so on PTR I have my raid expedient set, expedient obviously gone

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in combat my haste is like 75% with alacrity and everything

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like it feels super similar to how it does right now

grizzled jay
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huh weird

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oh i guess you have iris and bote minors right

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  • vita
balmy condor
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I have my m+ essences

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its just lucid

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vita/mecha rings

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my m+ set has 8% haste I'll see what that feels like

fallow otter
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Giga leech

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Lol

vital haven
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ye wtf

uncut schooner
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Just don't PvP with any arms warriors Whisp

vital haven
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are you using leeching poison

balmy condor
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ye

uncut schooner
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They hit like a fucking truck.

vital haven
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or insanely lucky

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oh ok

balmy condor
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this honestly feels fine

fallow otter
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Nah it doesn't

grizzled jay
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did you try out blindside

balmy condor
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I'm running blindside atm

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love it

grizzled jay
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yah

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the free energy globals are gonna be super important i think

fallow otter
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Singlehandedly ruined by snd

balmy condor
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5 point pandemic SND is 45 seconds

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I literally could not give a fuuuuuuuuck about snd

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give it to me

uncut schooner
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It's just kind of there

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It feels like.

fallow otter
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Yeah exactly

uncut schooner
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Click and forget.

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Move on.

grizzled jay
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thats how its always been tho

fallow otter
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It's pathetic maintenance junk

grizzled jay
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it was literally click and forget with Cut to the Chase lol

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even worse

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didn't interact with anything, you just only spent CP on it once

balmy condor
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I missed snd tbh

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I like snd

fallow otter
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Battleshout used to be 2mins right

balmy condor
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even if its useless for sin

uncut schooner
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This prepatch event tho

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Is a shit fest

balmy condor
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its just the wrath one reprinted

uncut schooner
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Anyway, back to live.

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Chest opening time.

balmy condor
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I'm content

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I'm happy

grizzled jay
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i got haste/mast socket pants with RP3 in mine

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so i vendored them

balmy condor
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this is a reasonable pace, with haste on literally not one piece of gear

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ambush is good

fallow otter
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They realised maintenance abilities are shit like 2min battleshout now it's an hour, this is worse

balmy condor
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I don't mind snd cause apparently I'm a fucking weirdo

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this is good

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I like this

grizzled jay
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battleshout didn't make you deal like 10-15% more dps lol

uncut schooner
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I do actually like ambush tbh

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Its a nice addition.

grizzled jay
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gives MA a nice opener

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Subt too

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MA opening with Mut always felt kinda underwhelming

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Ambush feels more oomph-y

uncut schooner
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My disappointment is immeasurable.

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475 Waycrest ring with twilight dev 3

balmy condor
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waycrest ring poggies

grizzled jay
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which ring

uncut schooner
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waycrest signet ring

grizzled jay
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big vers for M+

uncut schooner
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Crit/vers yeah

balmy condor
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I mean

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its not big vers

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its the only PvE crit/vers ring in the game atm

uncut schooner
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With twi dev 3 ._.

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I got a crit/vers waist last week with td1

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What is this.

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Am I a vengeance DH now

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Or something

balmy condor
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M+ god

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I would love to get a signet and a crit/vers belt from my chest

uncut schooner
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How come?

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😮

balmy condor
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cause I'm an m+ andy

uncut schooner
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But you play Assa in m+

balmy condor
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yeah

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cause I hate outlaw

oblique comet
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I need some help. Yesterday i got the dagger from Carapace Hero. Raidbots says i have to purify it for Expedient III. Should i follow this advice? I thought Twisted Appendage is a good corruption

balmy condor
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ta is rng

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and with enough exped, its worse

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you should cleanse it

oblique comet
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ok. thanks for advise

fallow otter
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It's fun if it procs, if you are lucky you can parse give but in reality expedient is just better in everyway, the great thing about our current build is that it's very consistent

rigid eagle
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Isn't TA pretty much just a pvp corruption at this point

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you line it up with kidney and smokebomb to cheese ppl

balmy condor
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I mean is gushing worse

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you see a couple cheese parses with it every now and then

rigid eagle
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lmfao sub's base kit is actually so weak that they can use gushing well in PVE

vital haven
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yuo can def cheese people with ta

stable gazelle
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Sub with full mastery is sick

rigid eagle
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but i dont think any spec uses TA in PVE anymroe

vital haven
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get two tendies

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kidney

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dead

balmy condor
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there's tendie parses here

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its rng

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but it exists

rigid eagle
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lol yeah tendie parses are the ones who run like 3 digit corruptions to get high ranking

tropic ocean
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lmfao sub's base kit is actually so weak that they can use gushing well in PVE
@rigid eagle u run gushing as sin as well

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🤷

rigid eagle
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@tropic ocean full gushing in pve?

grizzled jay
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the high tendie parses also run like 60+ corruption lol

tropic ocean
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in pvp

vital haven
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this is THE TENDIE PARSE

tropic ocean
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and for sub u run masterful

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in pve

rigid eagle
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yeh i was just saying that apparently sub can run 9 gushing in PVE as well

balmy condor
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the german tendie parse

grizzled jay
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sub runs Mastery in both

balmy condor
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oof

vital haven
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i did 141k dps on shadhar

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that was rank 11

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this guy did 185k dps

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and half of his dmg was tendies

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nice game

balmy condor
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just be better nairda

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god

vital haven
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IKR

balmy condor
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don't you understand, only the best players get r1 parses

tropic ocean
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imagine being so lost that u change ur whole gear and everything

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to do rng tend parses

delicate bone
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That’s literally what this patch is tbh

umbral portal
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I know maybe this is not the best place to ask but how do you see assa rogue in SL? I know that now we have meta outlaw but rolling is not my passion and I need "class fantasy" to play, so I'm only interesed in assa/sub. Do you think if both spec are gonna be viable and fun specially?

delicate bone
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Parses are kind of a joke right now

tropic ocean
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play full crit vers wait for double-triple tendie proc

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pop coral

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sick gamers

rigid eagle
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@tropic ocean i think all the top parses are tendy rn lolol

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i tried to look at top parses to copy builds

vital haven
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way too early to tell @umbral portal

grizzled jay
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Sin will still be the best prog spec

rigid eagle
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and all i see is 80+ corruption worth of tendy

balmy condor
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they're going to be fine

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sub and sin both

grizzled jay
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that's all there is to it

balmy condor
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they did fine in raid testing so far, they did fine in dungeon testing

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it's going to be okay

grizzled jay
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Outlaw and Sub might be better scaling or overtuned, but Sin will always be the best for pure prog

balmy condor
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okay now that I disagree with

vital haven
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i kinda want for sub to be good

outer estuary
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why will din be better for ptog

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am curious

vital haven
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being sin all of bfa

balmy condor
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sub definitely is in contention to be better on prog

vital haven
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kinda getting boring

grizzled jay
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It is the only one of the 3 that maintains some dps off-boss

balmy condor
delicate bone
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That’s not true at all lol

grizzled jay
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and every raid tier now-a-days is melee unfriendly

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Nathria is no different

balmy condor
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because sub doesn't have ruptures or big fans or 2 aoe finishers right

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and it can't spread find weakness either

vital haven
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its way too early to tell imo

umbral portal
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way too early to tell @umbral portal
@vital haven Yeah I thought that, probably until live prepatch is early to say

balmy condor
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man sub can only single target

grizzled jay
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does off-boss mean aoe

vital haven
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tmb point is valid

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but who knows

grizzled jay
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off-boss means you are off the boss

vital haven
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sin might just get the sub treatment and be forgotten for all of SL

balmy condor
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off the boss doing fucking what

outer estuary
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p sure sub also has a bleed and poisons now

grizzled jay
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what do you mean doing fucking what lol

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have you seen raid testing

balmy condor
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rupture ticking for sub is going to be fine

delicate bone
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Sleeping I guess

spring topaz
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is essences disabled on raidbots or did i miss something ?

balmy condor
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essences from armory are wonky

vital haven
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poisons are litertally less than worthless for anything other than sin btw

balmy condor
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but essences from addon are fine

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yeah poisons are actually whatever

plain tusk
spring topaz
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yeah im using my simc in the game, but it tends just to sim without it

grizzled jay
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sim yourself

balmy condor
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can you link the sim

waxen socket
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Now that they removed the soulbind conduit from night fae where we could drop combat and get a restealth. How do you guys feel about sepsis? Saw some stuff where they talked about that conduit + sepsis being really strong for the master assassin leggo

outer estuary
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hows venthyr :D

waxen socket
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KEK

vital haven
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the night fae was disappointing

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so many skill potential with the master assassing leggo

waxen socket
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yea

tropic ocean
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dont play dragon scale

waxen socket
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you could get this sick windows of MA

rigid eagle
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yo btw guys, why is the top maut parse done by someone with formless major LOL

plain tusk
balmy condor
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@spring topaz why is your simc so out of date

vital haven
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@rigid eagle you copy clf from someone

delicate bone
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I think the a lot of players prob complained about the vanish dropping aggro and mobs resetting

vital haven
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and you get FL minor and blood minor

solar latch
rigid eagle
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lmfao that's 200 iq

vital haven
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you only get one clf cast off anyways

grizzled jay
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FV major lets you run bote minor

waxen socket
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So far i've mostly been playing with bone spike since it probably is the go to?

balmy condor
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@plain tusk is that pvp gear?

spring topaz
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oh might have been because im on my working laptop

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but didnt have trouble with it like 1 week ago

balmy condor
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update the addon try again

plain tusk
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@balmy condor Nope, I don't have much to switch from

delicate bone
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Bone spike is going to be legit imo

grizzled jay
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Covenant Ability will not have as much impact as Soulbind + Legendaries

outer estuary
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why not just make sepsis reset vanish

waxen socket
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Of course tuning is not right and its OP af right now. But it looks good for outlaw/assa and probably decent for sub

grizzled jay
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Don't think too hard on Covenant Ability

balmy condor
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@plain tusk I mean, you can change talents

solar latch
vital haven
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dude on todays maut i never done formless void major before

balmy condor
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master poisoner in pve is AWFUL

waxen socket
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Bone spike just feels a bit clunky with subtlety imo

balmy condor
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like actual trash

delicate bone
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@outer estuary that would be ideal, not sure why they didn’t do that tbh

grizzled jay
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@outer estuary because then you have to press Vanish to get the most dps from it. having it give you a free vanish means you can time it to when you want

plain tusk
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Ah shit, I probably was in pvp talents then

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Yeah, MA and CD

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No CD*

delicate bone
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I don’t play sub so I can’t say much about it feeling clunky with it

vital haven
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so ididnt know you needed to use the copied major or it went away in 15 seconds

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so i went inot maut without clf

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pepehands

balmy condor
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@plain tusk yeah I mean seems fine, your cloak is mega behind and you're missing a lot of corruptions, the rings need help and you're in pvp essences

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but gear wise seems okay

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its on the right track, just undergeared

plain tusk
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I have 50k EoN to spend today

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So I'm going in big on expedient+resi

solar latch
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whispyr whats your base corruption on your rogue

balmy condor
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113

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like everyone else

grizzled jay
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i miss being Outlaw where HoD is 'meh' and i didn't need to worry about Corruption

solar latch
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is that resistance

balmy condor
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yes, cloak res is 113 + 10 from breath

vital haven
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at this point you can be 9xexpedient r3 and be below 60

solar latch
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ah ok

balmy condor
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yeah

solar latch
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need to upgrade my cloak more then

balmy condor
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full 9x exped 3 is the way to go

vital haven
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so every rogue thats been keeiping up their corruption res

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should be 9 expedient r3 by now

fallow otter
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Its the ocd dream atm

grizzled jay
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4 more weeks and we're capped

solar latch
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i feel like just buying 5 cores just to get my corruption resist up

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its at 86

balmy condor
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this chat is oddly poppin for a tuesday night/wednesday morning

plain tusk
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I guess I'll just all in the expedients, equip as much as I can, stack the cloak resi, since I should be able to get quite a lot of it as well.

fallow otter
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Anyone simming 130k+ running 9exp? I wanna compare

balmy condor
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where'd you clowns all come from

low girder
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and we'll be capped for all of about a week or two before prepatch

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woo

grizzled jay
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im just going to bed here soon

vital haven
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im at 127k

tropic ocean
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@solar latch not worth unless u have all the corruptions already

outer estuary
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im here bc idk if i wanna go back to rogue in sl

grizzled jay
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i'll probably break 100k sim after the next strk/sev week

solar latch
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i have all corruption

vital haven
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not even trying to flex id be surprised if someone is simming 130k+

tropic ocean
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then go

solar latch
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yes sir

balmy condor
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ausrr is a woman

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you can see in his pfp

fallow otter
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Yeah can you send me yours nairda

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I wanna compare mine is basically the same

vital haven
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3 mins?

drifting cloud
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whats your neck at nairda

grizzled jay
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oh yeah i forgot to do the 3m meme

vital haven
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96 almost 97

balmy condor
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why do you keep calling 3 min sims a meme

grizzled jay
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dang, 800 dps off 100k

balmy condor
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actually kinda tilting ngl

shrewd night
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three minutes?

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brb

grizzled jay
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what does simming at 3m tell you

balmy condor
drifting cloud
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half the raid on farm is 3min

vital haven
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its more accurate now for a lot of fights

balmy condor
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what kind of question is that

vital haven
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though if you wanna sim for 5 mins go for it

shrewd night
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"hey bois, I want to sim as if we kill the boss twice"

grizzled jay
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why not sim 1.5m since that's as long as Maut takes monkahmm

shrewd night
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110, huh, not bad

balmy condor
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I sim 5 minutes so I can get that thick SPREAD on the time average

vital haven
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you can @grizzled jay

balmy condor
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yeah that's fine

vital haven
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i do for maut to see the best trinket essence combo

balmy condor
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if you're simming for maut, go ahead and sim 1.5

tropic ocean
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rocket science

balmy condor
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I actually would suggest it for exactly what nairda said

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font isn't gonna be good on 5 min

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but 1:30

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hmmmmm

vital haven
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thats where you see stuff like formless void major

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font trinket

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stuff like that

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in top logs

balmy condor
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^

vital haven
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gcb

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BUT FUCK USING GCB AM I RIGHT

shrewd night
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Only reason that 5m sims were so prevalent, imo, was that it created a standard between sims. But outside of that the value was nil once bosses started to dip below 4m

balmy condor
shrewd night
balmy condor
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yeah 5 min is a good general baseline

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and it just evolved as the standard

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that doesn't mean 5 min is the most accurate

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or that 5 min is the only sim you should ever do

fallow otter
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I pretty much only sim 3m now

balmy condor
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most people do tbh

drifting cloud
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do I sim 12min for nzoth? tinfoil_pepe

tropic ocean
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yes

shrewd night
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Not entirely true, the varuance in killtimers is fucking monkaW between casual guilds and people farming lmao

tropic ocean
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and especially sim nzoth with 100% uptime

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too

balmy condor
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sim dungeon slice for nzoth because its waves of adds and a boss

solar latch
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do I get my haste to 70% before i stack crit

low girder
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doesn't one of them have a boss immunity built in somewhere

balmy condor
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nairda no

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don't

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don't go into the light

drifting cloud
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easy doggo sim

vital haven
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I

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S

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3

tropic ocean
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@solar latch u dont stack crit in raidbuild

drifting cloud
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exactly 80 at max cloak, perfect

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oh wait there no corr on boots, 100 it is

solar latch
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so uh just keep going haste on all gems and enchants then ok

low girder
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just wipe if you get bad procs

tropic ocean
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u go what sims best for u

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but usually its haste and later few mastery in

drifting cloud
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well tbh 85 on doggo is like 35 everywhere else

balmy condor
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play IS3 on maut

solar latch
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cant wait to see how much damage i get now with all this corruption

balmy condor
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for the sub experience

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of one shotting yourself

low girder
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tell that to my death on fucking jadefire with 55

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:\

drifting cloud
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the chance you get fucked 3 times in 140s~ is so low

balmy condor
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corruptions on jadefire

shrewd night
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yeah boi, it was always hilarious to see how many killed themselves with IS

low girder
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yeah was before the jaina skip

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it sucked

tropic ocean
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how can you kill yourself with corruption on maut

drifting cloud
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well yeah the thing does more dmg than any other mechanic in the raid

tropic ocean
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🤔

balmy condor
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you see ausrr

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the boss reflects damage

drifting cloud
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our hp pool in bod was like 250k

low girder
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i got 4 back to back within about 8 seconds

solar latch
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hold up was that an infinite stars rank 3 on the offhand

low girder
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it was fun

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i took no other dmg

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lol

shrewd night
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you see ausrr, some of us dont have pockethealers.

low girder
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4 or 5, idk

tropic ocean
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I don't have a pocket healer

vital haven
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its just a 485 piece @solar latch

balmy condor
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some of us don't have the luxury of running 135 corruption on maut farm to parse whore

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cause if we do

shrewd night
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truuuu

balmy condor
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we fucking DIE

tropic ocean
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cuz if u do

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you'll actually skip intermission

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hehehehe

vital haven
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it can be on the OH MH or boots

balmy condor
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that would require the rest of my raid to do damage as well

low girder
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we just skip the boss instead

tropic ocean
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hahahaha

vital haven
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cause those are the only pieces that are 485

grizzled jay
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we did Heroic Maut today and our Blood DK def ran like 5 TD3s

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oh sorry, on Heroic Hivemind

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and I definitely Tricks'd the Ravager on him

balmy condor
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I would too if I was doing a heroic boss

grizzled jay
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and he definitely died

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was a good time

shrewd night
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on hivemind?

balmy condor
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on heroic?

shrewd night
fallow otter
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Blood dk

grizzled jay
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on hivemind yes

fallow otter
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Dying in Heroic

tropic ocean
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tank parses

balmy condor
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to the ravager

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when everyone is nuking it

tropic ocean
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tank parses truely show whos a gamer and whos not

balmy condor
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especially the TD 3 tank

tropic ocean
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td3 lol

fallow otter
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How did a blood dk die

grizzled jay
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do you know what the Corruption effect does monkahmm

vital haven
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i remember our MT getting a sick hivemind parse

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just from TD

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on hivemind

balmy condor
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anything is possible when you're bad I guess

tropic ocean
tropic ocean
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im a very good tank gamer

solar latch
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need to replace rings and get the trinkets

spring topaz
balmy condor
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np

uneven summit
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is coral somewhat decent for bleedbuild

balmy condor
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if by somewhat decent you mean usable if you have nothing from the current patch

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then yes

uneven summit
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gotcha

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still haven´t gotten a 475 plumage =/

vital haven
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also legs if you get lucky @solar latch

balmy condor
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you don't need a 475 plumage

grizzled jay
#

i got my plumage but all my other trinkets suck

balmy condor
#

you need like a 460 plumage

solar latch
#

those legs were a boe i got in mythic

uneven summit
#

got 465 non socketed thoooo

shrewd night
#

Why get 460 when you can get 465

solar latch
#

wait i mean the shoes

balmy condor
#

because 460 plumage probably beats a coral

#

and I'm exaggerating

#

for EMPHASIS

shrewd night
#

Stop that

balmy condor
#

MAKE ME DAD

uneven summit
#

when exactly to pop that plumage in the rotation? i know its in the pins i just wanted to avoid opening it and looking

grizzled jay
#

Dad isn't here

uneven summit
#

lazywedensdays

low girder
#

with vendetta

balmy condor
#

you macro it do vendetta

#

and forget it exists

uneven summit
#

aight

#

❤️

#

thanks ma doods

balmy condor
#

np

grizzled jay
#

you mean macro it into Garrote

#

🙂

balmy condor
uneven summit
#

nono i mean macro it into Posioned Knife

balmy condor
#

you're reminding me of navi

#

and not in the good way

vital haven
grizzled jay
#

you are missing a tick of empowered Garrote with Plumage if you macro it into Vendetta. Silly Whispyr.

vital haven
#

i honestly use plummage pretty earlyu

balmy condor
#

that's just not how that works though

vital haven
#

prob not a good idea tbh lmao

balmy condor
#

where's the missing tick

grizzled jay
#

during the global between Garrote and Vendetta

shrewd night
#

Missing a tick > popping plume when you are holding for phases lmao

uneven summit
#

is there a mastery cap you want for bleed or does it not matter at all, i remember there was a mastery proc corruption in there at some point

shrewd night
#

mastery?

balmy condor
#

no stat caps

shrewd night
#

wtf

balmy condor
#

for any stat

#

for any build

uneven summit
#

ever

balmy condor
#

for any pve content

grizzled jay
#

crit caps at 100% tho

balmy condor
#

shush you

vital haven
#

go by what the sims tell you

uneven summit
#

ofc mate

grizzled jay
#

crit should go above 100% and give you bonus crit damage

shrewd night
#

Crit cap is lower due to weaponenchant and blood

#

reee

uneven summit
#

just asking for your opinions 😛

vital haven
#

but ye there is no like soft cap

grizzled jay
#

that way when i have 125% crit from Coral i do big dam

balmy condor
#

@shrewd night blood for the crit damage only

vital haven
#

or anything like that

balmy condor
shrewd night
#

Pellamie is like every meme from this discord condensed into one being

tropic ocean
#

crit caps at 34%

low girder
#

missing an important one

balmy condor
shrewd night
#

"I know its in the pin, buuuuuut"
"I just want your opinions"

low girder
#

oh, that one

uneven summit
#

thats the way the cookie crumbles koffing

balmy condor
#

if a cookie crumbles its too dry

#

can't change my mind

uneven summit
#

fair enough

vital haven
#

dude we did a leather sale full run today

#

and even then i wasnt brought in for nzoth

grizzled jay
#

Reminder, week before SL S1 launches do a high BfA key in case they fuck up and the box give a giga SL item kekchamp

vital haven
balmy condor
#

chest doesn't even exist until like 5 weeks in

grizzled jay
#

yah

#

do you not remember in BfA where if you did a Legion key

#

the Legion chest awarded a BfA item

#

for the first week of S1

balmy condor
#

I also remember them deleting those items

grizzled jay
#

did they? i don't remember

#

they deleted the Warfront items, but then didn't delete them when it favored the Horde/EU kekchamp

solar latch
#

smile

#

smiling through the pain

shrewd night
#

but then didn't delete them when it favored the Horde/EU

#

That helped EU alot didnt it?

solar latch
#

if i dont get my vita on the bonus roll this week again i will be sad!

grizzled jay
#

@shrewd night kekchamp

uneven summit
balmy condor
#

no mecha rings huh

#

a purist I see

uneven summit
#

yeah i never got the second one

#

farming like crazy =/

balmy condor
#

oof

#

465's are almost 2% up lmao

#

that's super unlucky

uneven summit
#

Yeah i have the attack from behind, just not the haste proc one

#

still looking

balmy condor
#

yeah they're elusive alright

#

its always the stuff you need

uneven summit
#

idd

fallow otter
#

465 plumage doesn't beat fat spyglass feels bad man

balmy condor
#

so much feels bad in the chat now

fallow otter
#

But it's not even close

balmy condor
#

9x expedient 3 feels good though

fallow otter
#

Fuck ye

#

Factor in a socket

balmy condor
#

bright side of pulling junk out of your chest for 3 months

crimson palm
#

@vital haven kick your fire mages and kill thots kekchamp

fallow otter
#

But 3k

balmy condor
#

kaiteh might be able to do 130 in 3

#

getting close to 100 neck level I think

fallow otter
#

Nice

balmy condor
#

double 475 mecha rings, and a 475 gcb

fallow otter
#

Fuck me

balmy condor
#

if anyone can do it, probably him

shrewd night
#

If only visions didnt suck as much donkeydick as they did

#

Maybe I would have had more sockets lmao

urban gale
drifting cloud
#

its August my dude, its not happening

balmy condor
#

@urban gale the gear that it’s showing, if you scroll down you can see different variations and how much those do

solar latch
#

when do i refresh ct at around 5-7 seconds?

tropic ocean
#

4 or lower

balmy condor
#

CT is 2+(2*cp) right

#

So whatever 30% of that is

urban gale
#

@balmy condor from that sim how much more headroom is there

#

with other gear/corruption

balmy condor
#

Headroom in terms of what

urban gale
#

at that ilvl

shrewd night
#

Just click the link and see it?

urban gale
#

like how much more dps is possible there

tropic ocean
#

130k

#

is +-max

#

rest u can see from top gear sim

balmy condor
#

Well with that ilvl and seemingly no mythic

#

Probably another 20k

urban gale
#

wow

#

just from like, full gemming with some pieces changed?

tropic ocean
#

u can pick everything in sim

#

and see

balmy condor
#

Mecha rings, full gem, some better pieces

#

Also basically missing 2.5 corruptions

urban gale
#

very interesting

balmy condor
#

Better shoulder azerite

#

Dropping lucid

#

CLF major

urban gale
#

oh that i can do right away

balmy condor
#

Well idk if you can right away

#

Might not have enough haste yet to drop lucid

urban gale
#

ah

drifting cloud
#

well lets see if you wante theoretical non mythic bis from your current gear youd keep like

#

like 5 items

shell ivy
#

fuck i got galecaller on my chest but i have no idea how to play it

low girder
#

hit it before exsang

balmy condor
#

^

low girder
#

and in between 2m cd rounds, on cooldown

shell ivy
#

but its like 1 min and 45 sec

low girder
#

it's 1m

balmy condor
#

It’s 1 min

shell ivy
#

and exang is 45

#

sry*

balmy condor
#

Yeah that doesn’t matter

#

You line up with the vendetta/exsangs

#

And use on cooldown otherwise

#

Vendetta/gcb/exsang in opener
Exsang
Gcb
Exsang
Vendetta/gcb/exsang

uneven summit
#

i guess you can macro it to use just before exsang?

balmy condor
#

I macro it to vendetta

shell ivy
#

thats smart

balmy condor
#

And then I just hit the button in between again

rigid eagle
#

macro it to

#

WORLDVEIn

shadow wedge
balmy condor
#

Stinky worldvein simmers

cyan bone
#

Ouf, just changed some items, should be upgrades but lost like 20% haste

rigid eagle
#

stinky sims telling me to use worldvein!!

balmy condor
#

Blame koji for helping implement worldvein so well

rigid eagle
balmy condor
#

Curses to that vile man being such a big force for good in the community

#

What happens if you replace the severe with an exped

rigid eagle
#

on the same piece of gear?

balmy condor
#

Yeah

rigid eagle
#

my M+ build will lose a piece of gear is what lmfao

balmy condor
rigid eagle
#

im just borrowing it to max out corruptions

#

gotta run more corruption to farm higher parses

balmy condor
#

Well sim it for me anyway

shrewd night
#

Its within margin tho

balmy condor
#

Cause I’m curious

shrewd night
#

Juuuuuuust within

balmy condor
#

if you exsang over severe those wrists or whatever that is

#

Me thinks bote wins

jovial spear
#

Seeing as we're stacking haste like mad men now, how valuable is the troll racial right now?

balmy condor
#

It’s better than all the other racials

#

But it’s a racial

rigid eagle
#

sim running, hope i'll finally see blood outsim WV for once

balmy condor
#

And so it’s not really worth talking about

jovial spear
#

allright 🙂

solar latch
#

when do i swap lucid with formless when it sims better or

balmy condor
#

It’s a couple thousand for super super geared people

low girder
#

when it sims better

shrewd night
#

And so it’s not really worth talking about

#

Just be rich

balmy condor
#

Yeah you keep simming

cyan bone
balmy condor
#

Spend all that gally gold on race changes

low girder
#

it's around the 55-60% haste mark

balmy condor
low girder
#

generally

#

but yeah just sim

shrewd night
#

boots
Boots with haste > no haste boots

cyan bone
#

but its cara boots

shrewd night
#

...and?

cyan bone
#

10 ilvl higher?

shrewd night
#

and?

cyan bone
#

and haste isnt much better than mastery/ crit?

shrewd night
balmy condor
#

Cara boots generally sim higher but ye the socket probably

rigid eagle
#

oh

#

my

#

god

#

you did it @balmy condor

#

you've freed me

balmy condor
#

Wow it’s almost like I’ve done a sim before

low girder
#

why are you at 52

#

oh that's an exp2

#

how2read

balmy condor
#

Cause he’s a god gamer

#

Duh

shrewd night
#

@cyan bone Like, we are talking so small margins. Barely above margin when it comes to regular boots and cara boots. Ilevel alone wont make a ton of difference when you have both haste and socket on your regular boots.

rigid eagle
#

lol i put that exped 2 onto the bracer like 2 months ago

#

and i never got a 475 bracer from skit

shrewd night
#

I see more people using clockwork lately, Im scared to use it kek

low girder
#

i can't get it

#

😦

balmy condor
#

Vel wasn’t using clockwork either

#

And then I simmed him earlier today

#

And found like 1400dps

#

Clock shoulders btw

shrewd night
#

1400?

rigid eagle
#

@balmy condor clockwork doens't line up with second vanish tho right

low girder
#

i've gotten like 4 goraks trying to get them

#

i'm sure someone hates me for that

balmy condor
#

Clock indeed does not line up

#

Yeah 1400

shrewd night
#

brb, checking my sims.

rigid eagle
#

but u guys don't let boss live until 2nd vanish?

shell ivy
low girder
#

lots of sockets to get

#

but otherwise yes

shell ivy
#

i'm saving for 20k residuum

cyan bone
#

guy got gushing mh? 😮

balmy condor
#

Yeh

shell ivy
#

think i'll get the 480 goraks tul

balmy condor
#

Gushing on 485

#

Pretty gud

shrewd night
#

I have bomberjacket, simming rn kekW

solar latch
balmy condor
#

Bomber jacket

#

Over cara chest?

patent topaz
#

clock chest shouldnt be better than cara

balmy condor
#

Not happening bud

patent topaz
#

id use double clock for short fights if I had it

#

but last raid today pog

#

so idc

shrewd night
#

Its what I have

#

no booli

balmy condor
#

It’s not good enough shiennar

crimson palm
#

its just the shoulders on 3 min fight

balmy condor
#

Be better pls

#

Yeah clock shoulders on 3 min

#

Actually big

patent topaz
#

id probably only use on <2:30

#

so like

#

all bosses

shrewd night
#

Fish for SS/EB head.. Or clock shoulders

balmy condor
#

Doing m+ as sin

shrewd night
#

Im just doing 15s

#

cba

#

full blast tho

patent topaz
#

doing m+ kekw

balmy condor
#

Well then why you worrying bout eb gear

shrewd night
#

FULL BLAST THO

#

ok

shut garnet
#

m+ after last week kekwhands

#

rip

patent topaz
#

im done with the expansion

#

playing horizon zero dawn

balmy condor
#

I’m done with koffing tbh

low girder
#

i was but now i'm grinding for the insane

shrewd night
#

wdym

tropic ocean
#

just play maple story

shrewd night
#

tiers over

tropic ocean
#

rogue class is op there

shrewd night
#

its been over for months

#

why are you dont with me for my choices of enjoying the last weeks of this shit?

balmy condor
#

“Why are you dont with me for my choices” - Koffing 2020

#

:)

#

Love u bb

shrewd night
balmy condor
#

So I’m guessing CF is off the table then

shrewd night
#

whats the name of the clock shoulders?

balmy condor
#

Epaulette

steel ridge
#

Extravagant Epaulettes

fallow otter
#

Extravagant

#

Ye

balmy condor
#

Crowdsourcing answers

fallow otter
#

Want shoulders for short fights, don't need the bomber chest from all my sims assuming you have 490

shrewd night
#

Clock shoulders is a downgrade on 3m

cyan bone
#

7th shoulders I bought rn, still no gorak fml

balmy condor
#

Koffing can’t do more damage

shrewd night
balmy condor
#

Lul

#

Don’t flex on him like that

#

He’s already demoralized

cyan bone
#

do you guys actually use galecallers or just for high sims?

balmy condor
#

Actually use it

#

Because it’s sick

shrewd night
#

Thats the difference for me too stunk, just the other way around

#

But sockets

cyan bone
#

u guys use clf for nzoth or bote?

fallow otter
#

5m for interest

balmy condor
#

Blood on n’zoth

fallow otter
#

I use clf for all coz got buyers anyway but if you want to parse you want to run bote for some fights

balmy condor
#

Lines up with timings better iirc

fallow otter
#

Im running font tonight

#

With gcb

#

For the ultimate cuck to movement

shrewd night
#

One of these days Ima be supergreedy on nzoth

fallow otter
#

I lost inspiration to parse 10s into the fight when there is nothing to attack and vendetta thrown into the wind

shrewd night
#

Ask if I can be off immunity duty so I can precloak the pooldrops lmao

fallow otter
#

You guy don't do that anyway yet?

#

After secret phase is kinda ffa for us now

#

Stack and nuke

shrewd night
#

Nah, Ive been a good boi dropping them in legit buttfuck nowhere in africa, and the worst drop happens while cloak is still on cd afaik

#

Oh yeah no, we dont stack

#

For some reason

fallow otter
#

You doing your 2nd cloak soak?

uncut schooner
#

I'd ban Whispyr tbh.

shrewd night
#

I cloak.. Uuuuh, third thots?

uncut schooner
#

He won't sleep otherwise.

balmy condor
#

It’s only 2am

#

Not even bad

crimson palm
#

@shrewd night u do precloak immunity when u soak tho KEKW

balmy condor
#

If I went to sleep, I wouldn’t be able to flame koffing

uncut schooner
#

Analyze my logs instead.

balmy condor
#

Sorry not flame

shrewd night
uncut schooner
shrewd night
#

are u high hemo

balmy condor
#

Give koffing my love

uncut schooner
#

Koffing make me a better rogue.

balmy condor
#

He can’t make himself a better rogue apparently

#

Clockwork shoulders do nothing for him

uncut schooner
#

Imagine not getting procs in world of proccraft.

shrewd night
crimson palm
#

u cloak at the end of their cast

#

and it lasts through the anguish

balmy condor
#

God damnit

shrewd night
#

ye, but that doesnt help me on later pooldrops which Im talking about

crimson palm
#

you can only get 1 pre-secret and 1 post-secret

shrewd night
#

Exactly

#

If you read what I said

#

and the worst drop happens while cloak is still on cd afaik

crimson palm
#

which one are u immuning

#

should be the one at 7:30 when u use cds

fallow otter
#

I cloak.. Uuuuh, third thots?
@shrewd night I mean do you do 2x soak?

shrewd night
#

No, we dont have to soak twice, luckily

bronze aurora
#

Finally hit 6 figures

#

pog

balmy condor
#

So many rogues making big schmooves with this exped3

fallow otter
#

@crimson palm what do you focus dmg on for pay phase

#

Psyc

#

Adds yeh?

crimson palm
#

depends on ur assignments

#

im dotting psychus, keeping poisons up on lil shits

fallow otter
#

I mean you specifically for your parse

crimson palm
#

what i do in there's probably gonna get you killed 9/10 times xD

fallow otter
#

Perfect

#

I want

#

Coz im fuckin bored

crimson palm
#

ignore title kekchamp

fallow otter
#

Perfect thanks

#

I gotta drive but I'll check it out

shy axle
#

would you socket/corrupt an 3 abilit. to procc temp ring or is the gap the behind one big enough to make it worht farming just that one?

crimson palm
#

that's the soak we all do xD

shrewd night
balmy condor
#

Farm the division

shrewd night
#

WTB good tacs then

cyan bone
#

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS

crimson palm
#

check the vod i linked

cyan bone
#

I cant get a dagger for shit

shrewd night
#

wait

#

hemo

#

why arent you preloading nzoth with bleeds before psychus dies?

#

isnt that big brain?

#

Free full duration, no ramp right into vendetta burst?

crimson palm
#

who cares lmao

#

might be a play i havent tried it

shrewd night
#

Fair, just wondered if it was a choice you made or just ignored kek

crimson palm
#

envenom hits like noodle anyway

#

diff will be whether you rupture 1x more or not

shrewd night
#

Yeah, you guys have more immunities and different soak strat

solar latch
#

is there a guide on when to pop cds on nzoth

#

such a weird fight

shrewd night
#

@crimson palm optimally, I would love to cloak second or third anguish after secret, but Ill have to check timings. Might be possible if we dont skip fourth bombs lmao

crimson palm
#

usually we just get one

#

but boss dies before it gets off

#

lacked some boss dmg on this kill

shrewd night
#

Your raid dps > our raid dps, lets just put it that way

crimson palm
#

if we went insane on that kill

#

parse was easily 110k++

uncut schooner
#

You guys do damage?

#

I just heal the boss when I hit it.

balmy condor
#

Switch out of outlaw

#

Usually helps

uncut schooner
#

Want to see something cool Whisp

sullen pagoda
#

u about to bring in some yellow names in here @balmy condor with "not only boss damage matters" kekw

balmy condor
#

Oh no what ever shall I do kekw

#

“You see my add damage on hivemind and cara though? Poppin”

patent topaz
#

"the adds need to die so its not padding"

left schooner
#

Guys

balmy condor
#

But then it’s the same people that tell me that rogue doesn’t aoe and we just simp for fire mages in m+

left schooner
#

small question for sin ppv?

#

pvpŪ

balmy condor
#

#pvp probably better help but if it’s easy we gotchu

left schooner
sullen pagoda
#

"you see those small adds on nzoth? they actually dangerous im telling you they kill people" kekw

left schooner
#

should I run the higher ilvl with worse secondary stats

#

or lower ilvl with better secondary?

balmy condor
#

I think that depends a lot on your stats and corruptions

left schooner
#

that's for pvp ^

balmy condor
#

Not an easy question

left schooner
#

basic corruptions, 8x gw

balmy condor
#

Go ask them

left schooner
#

it's a dead channel

#

nobody replies

shrewd night
#

@uncut schooner Perhaps that would explain why you are on raid simp duty if you heal the boss kekw

#

@left schooner Might be a dead channel, but that doesnt mean we are qualified to answer pvp questions

balmy condor
#

You asked them an hour ago

#

When all of NA is asleep

#

And haven’t gotten a response

#

So it’s dead?

shrewd night
#

Patience is a virtue

left schooner
#

@balmy condor I already asked it 3 times

#

3 days in a row

uncut schooner
#

@shrewd night Have you seen my god like opener yet?

shrewd night
#

I saw one kekW

uncut schooner
left schooner
#

@shrewd night I guess, I'm just surprised rogue players don't pvp lol

uncut schooner
#

0 cp rupture

#

I'm a god.

shrewd night
#

There is absolitely no corelation between "who answers my pvp question" and "total rogues pvpving"

uncut schooner
#

I don't pvp because pvp in bfa is arse lol

#

simple

left schooner
#

And why is pvp in bfa arse?

uncut schooner
#

too many overlapping systems which scream bs

#

corruptions ruined it for me on mulitple levels

shrewd night
#

The double rupture

left schooner
#

On what multiple levels?

shrewd night
#

The plume tied to essence

#

what am I watching

uncut schooner
#

I stuck my head in a microwave before the fight

#

these are the results

balmy condor
#

You’re watching the pain I endure every day in this channel

shrewd night
#

Which fight was it?

uncut schooner
#

ra'den heroic

balmy condor
#

Nothing important KEK

shrewd night
#

Dog night? Or do you still clear some on wednesdays?

uncut schooner
#

Pugged it

shrewd night
#

Pug mind rubbed off on you

uncut schooner
#

Always an excuse.

#

What's worse is when I uploaded our progress night logs.

#

For some reason it included that log.

#

I got roasted 😦

balmy condor
#

Did you get roasted by the rogue with the scuffed opener

uncut schooner
#

No, he couldn't make it due to work.

balmy condor
#

What a coincidence

shrewd night
#

Ima go spy

#

on those logs

#

brb