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Don't need to kite if you just kill the pack before he gets that high
unless if they changed that
So what is the best corruption set to run right now with max cloak
in what context
max exped3 in every slot for raids
severe3 till 55-60% and then strike3 for m+
severe3 till 55-60% and then versatiles for 26+ m+
full gushing in pvp
is full gushing in M+ acceptable
not really

you would have better luck with full expedient in M+ compared to gushing
yeh
@balmy condor Assa feels kinda bad on PTR
unlucky
define feels
I just managed to get onto PTR like 20 minutes ago
do you just mean it is playing slower, cause that's to be expected
but i think fundamentally it plays the same as it does now, but with some better QoL
Tis slow.
also vigor/alacrity
Fuck snd
lucid still exists on ptr
tru
it should play the same as 8.0-8.1 sin
or i guess 8.2 really
pre-patch will go back to full crit DD POG
too much haste
way too much haste
so on PTR I have my raid expedient set, expedient obviously gone
in combat my haste is like 75% with alacrity and everything
like it feels super similar to how it does right now
I have my m+ essences
its just lucid
vita/mecha rings
my m+ set has 8% haste I'll see what that feels like
ye wtf
Just don't PvP with any arms warriors Whisp
are you using leeching poison
ye
They hit like a fucking truck.
this honestly feels fine
Nah it doesn't
did you try out blindside
Singlehandedly ruined by snd
5 point pandemic SND is 45 seconds
I literally could not give a fuuuuuuuuck about snd
give it to me
Yeah exactly
thats how its always been tho
It's pathetic maintenance junk
it was literally click and forget with Cut to the Chase lol
even worse
didn't interact with anything, you just only spent CP on it once
Battleshout used to be 2mins right
even if its useless for sin
its just the wrath one reprinted
this is a reasonable pace, with haste on literally not one piece of gear
ambush is good
They realised maintenance abilities are shit like 2min battleshout now it's an hour, this is worse
battleshout didn't make you deal like 10-15% more dps lol
gives MA a nice opener
Subt too
MA opening with Mut always felt kinda underwhelming
Ambush feels more oomph-y
waycrest ring 
which ring
waycrest signet ring
big vers for M+
Crit/vers yeah
With twi dev 3 ._.
I got a crit/vers waist last week with td1
What is this.
Am I a vengeance DH now
Or something
cause I'm an m+ andy
I need some help. Yesterday i got the dagger from Carapace Hero. Raidbots says i have to purify it for Expedient III. Should i follow this advice? I thought Twisted Appendage is a good corruption
ok. thanks for advise
It's fun if it procs, if you are lucky you can parse give but in reality expedient is just better in everyway, the great thing about our current build is that it's very consistent
Isn't TA pretty much just a pvp corruption at this point
you line it up with kidney and smokebomb to cheese ppl
lmfao sub's base kit is actually so weak that they can use gushing well in PVE
yuo can def cheese people with ta
Sub with full mastery is sick
but i dont think any spec uses TA in PVE anymroe
lol yeah tendie parses are the ones who run like 3 digit corruptions to get high ranking
lmfao sub's base kit is actually so weak that they can use gushing well in PVE
@rigid eagle u run gushing as sin as well
🤷
@tropic ocean full gushing in pve?
the high tendie parses also run like 60+ corruption lol
in pvp
this is THE TENDIE PARSE
yeh i was just saying that apparently sub can run 9 gushing in PVE as well
the german tendie parse
sub runs Mastery in both
oof
i did 141k dps on shadhar
that was rank 11
this guy did 185k dps
and half of his dmg was tendies
nice game
IKR
don't you understand, only the best players get r1 parses
imagine being so lost that u change ur whole gear and everything
to do rng tend parses
That’s literally what this patch is tbh
I know maybe this is not the best place to ask but how do you see assa rogue in SL? I know that now we have meta outlaw but rolling is not my passion and I need "class fantasy" to play, so I'm only interesed in assa/sub. Do you think if both spec are gonna be viable and fun specially?
Parses are kind of a joke right now
@tropic ocean i think all the top parses are tendy rn lolol
i tried to look at top parses to copy builds
way too early to tell @umbral portal
Sin will still be the best prog spec
and all i see is 80+ corruption worth of tendy
that's all there is to it
they did fine in raid testing so far, they did fine in dungeon testing
it's going to be okay
Outlaw and Sub might be better scaling or overtuned, but Sin will always be the best for pure prog
okay now that I disagree with
i kinda want for sub to be good
being sin all of bfa
sub definitely is in contention to be better on prog
kinda getting boring
It is the only one of the 3 that maintains some dps off-boss

That’s not true at all lol
because sub doesn't have ruptures or big fans or 2 aoe finishers right
and it can't spread find weakness either
its way too early to tell imo
way too early to tell @umbral portal
@vital haven Yeah I thought that, probably until live prepatch is early to say
man sub can only single target
off-boss means you are off the boss
sin might just get the sub treatment and be forgotten for all of SL
off the boss doing fucking what
p sure sub also has a bleed and poisons now
rupture ticking for sub is going to be fine
Sleeping I guess
is essences disabled on raidbots or did i miss something ?
essences from armory are wonky
poisons are litertally less than worthless for anything other than sin btw
Ayo, should I stack all of the expedients I can at this point? My assa set isn't currently equipped and I can't switch due to being at work, however I have 475 belt with good stats and some 465 pants. As a weapons Im using Shard 470+455 and trinkets are Vita+On use vers
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/burning-legion/daszary
yeah im using my simc in the game, but it tends just to sim without it
sim yourself
can you link the sim
Now that they removed the soulbind conduit from night fae where we could drop combat and get a restealth. How do you guys feel about sepsis? Saw some stuff where they talked about that conduit + sepsis being really strong for the master assassin leggo
hows venthyr :D
KEK
the night fae was disappointing
so many skill potential with the master assassing leggo
yea
dont play dragon scale
you could get this sick windows of MA
yo btw guys, why is the top maut parse done by someone with formless major LOL
That's probably the only sim I have acces to ATM
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xxHYZHuUrSqxxixeUKSNdB
@spring topaz why is your simc so out of date
@rigid eagle you copy clf from someone
I think the a lot of players prob complained about the vanish dropping aggro and mobs resetting
and you get FL minor and blood minor
lmfao that's 200 iq
you only get one clf cast off anyways
FV major lets you run bote minor
So far i've mostly been playing with bone spike since it probably is the go to?
@plain tusk is that pvp gear?
oh might have been because im on my working laptop
but didnt have trouble with it like 1 week ago
@balmy condor Nope, I don't have much to switch from
Bone spike is going to be legit imo
Covenant Ability will not have as much impact as Soulbind + Legendaries
why not just make sepsis reset vanish
Of course tuning is not right and its OP af right now. But it looks good for outlaw/assa and probably decent for sub
Don't think too hard on Covenant Ability
@plain tusk I mean, you can change talents
uh oh too much corruption
dude on todays maut i never done formless void major before
master poisoner in pve is AWFUL
Bone spike just feels a bit clunky with subtlety imo
like actual trash
@outer estuary that would be ideal, not sure why they didn’t do that tbh
@outer estuary because then you have to press Vanish to get the most dps from it. having it give you a free vanish means you can time it to when you want
I don’t play sub so I can’t say much about it feeling clunky with it
so ididnt know you needed to use the copied major or it went away in 15 seconds
so i went inot maut without clf
pepehands
@plain tusk yeah I mean seems fine, your cloak is mega behind and you're missing a lot of corruptions, the rings need help and you're in pvp essences
but gear wise seems okay
its on the right track, just undergeared
whispyr whats your base corruption on your rogue
i miss being Outlaw where HoD is 'meh' and i didn't need to worry about Corruption
is that resistance
yes, cloak res is 113 + 10 from breath
at this point you can be 9xexpedient r3 and be below 60
ah ok
yeah
need to upgrade my cloak more then
full 9x exped 3 is the way to go
so every rogue thats been keeiping up their corruption res
should be 9 expedient r3 by now
Its the ocd dream atm
4 more weeks and we're capped
this chat is oddly poppin for a tuesday night/wednesday morning
I guess I'll just all in the expedients, equip as much as I can, stack the cloak resi, since I should be able to get quite a lot of it as well.
Anyone simming 130k+ running 9exp? I wanna compare
where'd you clowns all come from
im just going to bed here soon
im at 127k
@solar latch not worth unless u have all the corruptions already
im here bc idk if i wanna go back to rogue in sl
i'll probably break 100k sim after the next strk/sev week
i have all corruption
not even trying to flex id be surprised if someone is simming 130k+
then go
yes sir
3 mins?
whats your neck at nairda
oh yeah i forgot to do the 3m meme
96 almost 97
why do you keep calling 3 min sims a meme
dang, 800 dps off 100k
actually kinda tilting ngl
what does simming at 3m tell you

half the raid on farm is 3min
its more accurate now for a lot of fights
what kind of question is that
though if you wanna sim for 5 mins go for it
"hey bois, I want to sim as if we kill the boss twice"
why not sim 1.5m since that's as long as Maut takes 
110, huh, not bad
I sim 5 minutes so I can get that thick SPREAD on the time average
you can @grizzled jay
yeah that's fine
i do for maut to see the best trinket essence combo
if you're simming for maut, go ahead and sim 1.5
rocket science
I actually would suggest it for exactly what nairda said
font isn't gonna be good on 5 min
but 1:30
hmmmmm
thats where you see stuff like formless void major
font trinket
stuff like that
in top logs
^
Only reason that 5m sims were so prevalent, imo, was that it created a standard between sims. But outside of that the value was nil once bosses started to dip below 4m


yeah 5 min is a good general baseline
and it just evolved as the standard
that doesn't mean 5 min is the most accurate
or that 5 min is the only sim you should ever do
I pretty much only sim 3m now
most people do tbh
do I sim 12min for nzoth? 
yes
Not entirely true, the varuance in killtimers is fucking monkaW between casual guilds and people farming lmao
do I get my haste to 70% before i stack crit
doesn't one of them have a boss immunity built in somewhere
easy doggo sim
@solar latch u dont stack crit in raidbuild
so uh just keep going haste on all gems and enchants then ok
just wipe if you get bad procs
well tbh 85 on doggo is like 35 everywhere else
play IS3 on maut
cant wait to see how much damage i get now with all this corruption
the chance you get fucked 3 times in 140s~ is so low
yeah boi, it was always hilarious to see how many killed themselves with IS
how can you kill yourself with corruption on maut
well yeah the thing does more dmg than any other mechanic in the raid
🤔
our hp pool in bod was like 250k
i got 4 back to back within about 8 seconds
hold up was that an infinite stars rank 3 on the offhand
you see ausrr, some of us dont have pockethealers.
4 or 5, idk
I don't have a pocket healer
its just a 485 piece @solar latch
some of us don't have the luxury of running 135 corruption on maut farm to parse whore
cause if we do
truuuu
we fucking DIE
it can be on the OH MH or boots
we just skip the boss instead
hahahaha
cause those are the only pieces that are 485
we did Heroic Maut today and our Blood DK def ran like 5 TD3s
oh sorry, on Heroic Hivemind
and I definitely Tricks'd the Ravager on him
I would too if I was doing a heroic boss
on hivemind?
on heroic?

Blood dk
on hivemind yes
Dying in Heroic
tank parses
tank parses truely show whos a gamer and whos not
especially the TD 3 tank
td3 lol
How did a blood dk die
do you know what the Corruption effect does 
anything is possible when you're bad I guess
im a very good tank gamer
need to replace rings and get the trinkets
worked with updating the addon lul https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tHwABVDRj4NprvPEcMm76D cheers
np
is coral somewhat decent for bleedbuild
if by somewhat decent you mean usable if you have nothing from the current patch
then yes
also legs if you get lucky @solar latch
you don't need a 475 plumage
i got my plumage but all my other trinkets suck
you need like a 460 plumage
those legs were a boe i got in mythic
got 465 non socketed thoooo
Why get 460 when you can get 465
wait i mean the shoes
MAKE ME DAD
when exactly to pop that plumage in the rotation? i know its in the pins i just wanted to avoid opening it and looking
Dad isn't here
lazywedensdays
with vendetta
np

nono i mean macro it into Posioned Knife

you are missing a tick of empowered Garrote with Plumage if you macro it into Vendetta. Silly Whispyr.
i honestly use plummage pretty earlyu
that's just not how that works though
prob not a good idea tbh lmao
where's the missing tick
during the global between Garrote and Vendetta
Missing a tick > popping plume when you are holding for phases lmao
is there a mastery cap you want for bleed or does it not matter at all, i remember there was a mastery proc corruption in there at some point
mastery?
no stat caps
wtf
ever
for any pve content
crit caps at 100% tho
shush you
go by what the sims tell you
ofc mate
crit should go above 100% and give you bonus crit damage
just asking for your opinions 😛
but ye there is no like soft cap
that way when i have 125% crit from Coral i do big dam
@shrewd night blood for the crit damage only
or anything like that

Pellamie is like every meme from this discord condensed into one being
crit caps at 34%
missing an important one

"I know its in the pin, buuuuuut"
"I just want your opinions"
oh, that one
thats the way the cookie crumbles koffing
fair enough
dude we did a leather sale full run today
and even then i wasnt brought in for nzoth
Reminder, week before SL S1 launches do a high BfA key in case they fuck up and the box give a giga SL item 

yah
do you not remember in BfA where if you did a Legion key
the Legion chest awarded a BfA item
for the first week of S1
I also remember them deleting those items
did they? i don't remember
they deleted the Warfront items, but then didn't delete them when it favored the Horde/EU 
but then didn't delete them when it favored the Horde/EU
That helped EU alot didnt it?

if i dont get my vita on the bonus roll this week again i will be sad!
@shrewd night 
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oHkb6ST8nyc6JiMyv5fSgX just need that last expedient on a carapace dagger
idd
465 plumage doesn't beat fat spyglass feels bad man
so much feels bad in the chat now
But it's not even close
9x expedient 3 feels good though
bright side of pulling junk out of your chest for 3 months
@vital haven kick your fire mages and kill thots 
But 3k
Nice
double 475 mecha rings, and a 475 gcb
Fuck me
if anyone can do it, probably him
If only visions didnt suck as much donkeydick as they did
Maybe I would have had more sockets lmao
does this show the dps if u wear all the suggestions or the current gear? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4pdunq41AaT495hb7xpQMH
its August my dude, its not happening
@urban gale the gear that it’s showing, if you scroll down you can see different variations and how much those do
when do i refresh ct at around 5-7 seconds?
4 or lower
@balmy condor from that sim how much more headroom is there
with other gear/corruption
Headroom in terms of what
at that ilvl
like how much more dps is possible there
very interesting
oh that i can do right away
ah
well lets see if you wante theoretical non mythic bis from your current gear youd keep like
like 5 items
hit it before exsang
^
and in between 2m cd rounds, on cooldown
but its like 1 min and 45 sec
it's 1m
It’s 1 min
Yeah that doesn’t matter
You line up with the vendetta/exsangs
And use on cooldown otherwise
Vendetta/gcb/exsang in opener
Exsang
Gcb
Exsang
Vendetta/gcb/exsang
i guess you can macro it to use just before exsang?
I macro it to vendetta
thats smart
And then I just hit the button in between again

Stinky worldvein simmers
Ouf, just changed some items, should be upgrades but lost like 20% haste
stinky sims telling me to use worldvein!!
Blame koji for helping implement worldvein so well
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3sNDiNJHYbLGqDK14k3VZf lol it's legit still winning
Curses to that vile man being such a big force for good in the community
What happens if you replace the severe with an exped
on the same piece of gear?
Yeah
my M+ build will lose a piece of gear is what lmfao

im just borrowing it to max out corruptions
gotta run more corruption to farm higher parses
Well sim it for me anyway
Its within margin tho
Cause I’m curious
Juuuuuuust within
Seeing as we're stacking haste like mad men now, how valuable is the troll racial right now?
sim running, hope i'll finally see blood outsim WV for once
And so it’s not really worth talking about
allright 🙂
when do i swap lucid with formless when it sims better or
It’s a couple thousand for super super geared people
when it sims better
Yeah you keep simming
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7UX5jTZ1XWsDfmPdevpGiU boots and belt are no upgrade bc. of socket? :/
Spend all that gally gold on race changes
it's around the 55-60% haste mark

but its cara boots
...and?
10 ilvl higher?
and?
and haste isnt much better than mastery/ crit?

Cara boots generally sim higher but ye the socket probably
Wow it’s almost like I’ve done a sim before
@cyan bone Like, we are talking so small margins. Barely above margin when it comes to regular boots and cara boots. Ilevel alone wont make a ton of difference when you have both haste and socket on your regular boots.
lol i put that exped 2 onto the bracer like 2 months ago
and i never got a 475 bracer from skit
I see more people using clockwork lately, Im scared to use it kek
Vel wasn’t using clockwork either
And then I simmed him earlier today
And found like 1400dps

Clock shoulders btw
@balmy condor clockwork doens't line up with second vanish tho right
brb, checking my sims.
but u guys don't let boss live until 2nd vanish?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7a85qPZnKCwpXVnveFVwWK i think i'm gonna be stuck for a while coz of azerite no?
i'm saving for 20k residuum
guy got gushing mh? 😮
Yeh
think i'll get the 480 goraks tul
I have bomberjacket, simming rn 
ok im liking this parse
clock chest shouldnt be better than cara
It’s not good enough shiennar
its just the shoulders on 3 min fight
doing m+ 
Well then why you worrying bout eb gear
I’m done with koffing tbh
i was but now i'm grinding for the insane
wdym
just play maple story
tiers over
rogue class is op there
its been over for months
why are you dont with me for my choices of enjoying the last weeks of this shit?

Epaulette
Extravagant Epaulettes
Want shoulders for short fights, don't need the bomber chest from all my sims assuming you have 490
7th shoulders I bought rn, still no gorak fml

do you guys actually use galecallers or just for high sims?
u guys use clf for nzoth or bote?
5m for interest
Blood on n’zoth
I use clf for all coz got buyers anyway but if you want to parse you want to run bote for some fights
Lines up with timings better iirc
One of these days Ima be supergreedy on nzoth
I lost inspiration to parse 10s into the fight when there is nothing to attack and vendetta thrown into the wind
Ask if I can be off immunity duty so I can precloak the pooldrops lmao
You guy don't do that anyway yet?
After secret phase is kinda ffa for us now
Stack and nuke
Nah, Ive been a good boi dropping them in legit buttfuck nowhere in africa, and the worst drop happens while cloak is still on cd afaik
Oh yeah no, we dont stack
For some reason
You doing your 2nd cloak soak?
I'd ban Whispyr tbh.
I cloak.. Uuuuh, third thots?
@shrewd night u do precloak immunity when u soak tho KEKW
If I went to sleep, I wouldn’t be able to flame koffing
Analyze my logs instead.
Sorry not flame


are u high hemo
Give koffing my love
Koffing make me a better rogue.
He can’t make himself a better rogue apparently
Clockwork shoulders do nothing for him
Imagine not getting procs in world of proccraft.

ye, but that doesnt help me on later pooldrops which Im talking about
you can only get 1 pre-secret and 1 post-secret
Exactly
If you read what I said
and the worst drop happens while cloak is still on cd afaik
I cloak.. Uuuuh, third thots?
@shrewd night I mean do you do 2x soak?
No, we dont have to soak twice, luckily
I mean you specifically for your parse
what i do in there's probably gonna get you killed 9/10 times xD
ignore title 
would you socket/corrupt an 3 abilit. to procc temp ring or is the gap the behind one big enough to make it worht farming just that one?
that's the soak we all do xD

Farm the division
WTB good tacs then
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS
check the vod i linked
I cant get a dagger for shit
wait
hemo
why arent you preloading nzoth with bleeds before psychus dies?
isnt that big brain?
Free full duration, no ramp right into vendetta burst?
Fair, just wondered if it was a choice you made or just ignored kek
@crimson palm optimally, I would love to cloak second or third anguish after secret, but Ill have to check timings. Might be possible if we dont skip fourth bombs lmao
usually we just get one
but boss dies before it gets off
lacked some boss dmg on this kill
Want to see something cool Whisp
u about to bring in some yellow names in here @balmy condor with "not only boss damage matters" 
Oh no what ever shall I do 
“You see my add damage on hivemind and cara though? Poppin”
"the adds need to die so its not padding"
Guys
But then it’s the same people that tell me that rogue doesn’t aoe and we just simp for fire mages in m+
"you see those small adds on nzoth? they actually dangerous im telling you they kill people" 
should I run the higher ilvl with worse secondary stats
or lower ilvl with better secondary?
I think that depends a lot on your stats and corruptions
that's for pvp ^
basic corruptions, 8x gw
Go ask them
@uncut schooner Perhaps that would explain why you are on raid simp duty if you heal the boss 
@left schooner Might be a dead channel, but that doesnt mean we are qualified to answer pvp questions
You asked them an hour ago
When all of NA is asleep
And haven’t gotten a response
So it’s dead?
Patience is a virtue
@shrewd night Have you seen my god like opener yet?
I saw one 
@shrewd night I guess, I'm just surprised rogue players don't pvp lol

There is absolitely no corelation between "who answers my pvp question" and "total rogues pvpving"
And why is pvp in bfa arse?
too many overlapping systems which scream bs
corruptions ruined it for me on mulitple levels
The double rupture
On what multiple levels?
You’re watching the pain I endure every day in this channel
Which fight was it?
Nothing important 
Dog night? Or do you still clear some on wednesdays?
Pugged it
Always an excuse.

What's worse is when I uploaded our progress night logs.
For some reason it included that log.
I got roasted 😦
Did you get roasted by the rogue with the scuffed opener




















