#assassination

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vagrant salmon
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Hi, for M+, i much pick haste or crit corruption?

honest vessel
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if i understand your question correctly, its severes up to about 60% crit and then stack strikethrough

vagrant salmon
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thnx! 🙂

orchid warren
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Hey y'all

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Need a bit of help

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Currently at 461 ilvl. I sim for about 60k dps.

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I do about 50k max if I try hard enough with correct setup

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But thats on fights like maut etc

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I feel like my dps is really low, wondering what I might be doing wrong

sly aspen
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how many combo points for using Envenom ?

strange python
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max minus one

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as minimum

shrewd night
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@orchid warren Refer to guides, or link logs for more indepth help.

strange python
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why do I keep seeing people running engineering head? is it good?

main warren
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gizmo trait is p good yeah

vital condor
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also bc you can craft it, it’s a nice option for casuals like me who don’t get the right drops or takes too long to buy the right head from vendor

main warren
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I cba to farm expulsom

tribal marlin
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!affix

prisma monolithBOT
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Affixes: Tyrannical, Bolstering, Explosive, Awakened

strange python
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expulsom is super easy to get with tailoring or some shit on an alt

main warren
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easy

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But boring

vital condor
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expulsom is easier than farming residuum tho haha, esp since you can craft and scrap easily while doing other stuff IRL

strange python
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i might go level engineering since my head piece is super ass, I already have the item for 475 crafting

normal olive
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@strange python not enough IT

strange python
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glimpse > IT 8)

normal olive
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Nah

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IT stack with 3x NP and VoP major

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that's the real shit

strange python
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true

normal olive
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with vers stack obviously

strange python
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yy

glass trench
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
kind lantern
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you can use any 110+ alt for expulsum via leatherworking

sturdy cargo
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what yall think bout the lengendary itens for us so far?

shadow wedge
sturdy cargo
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I only really like the one that makes shiv spread all posions and bleeds, besides that, all the other ones seems to be boring

plain thistle
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yeah, but we got the good ones 🙂

silent crescent
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Idk i always liked vendetta cd leggo, will be fun with haste now

normal olive
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The shiv one isn't working on beta

sturdy cargo
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but I doubt we will have enought haste at the start to make it fun, 65 energy per 1sec cd reduction seems to be a lot

silent crescent
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At the start sure, depends on what conduits we get though

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Probably good energy sources from that

normal olive
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you mean like sprint has 1 second cd reduced?

sturdy cargo
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The shiv one isn't working on beta

like the rest of the cool rogue stuff :/

spice spire
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It’s okay, rogues are still in alpha.
We’ll be ready to go in 9.2!

dire spoke
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can somebody with a GCB post me their simc line of that trinket

fathom swift
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what do you mean

dire spoke
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trinket2=,...

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w/e the output is

fathom swift
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just look up the item id

outer lotus
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why is GCB used way less than plumage when it sims higher? is it just because its a bit awkward to use?

fathom swift
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thats all you need

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trinket2=,id=xxxxxx,ilevel=xxx

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and ya gcb can just be annoying timings some fights

outer lotus
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can i just macro my plumage to vendetta? the sample sequences use them a bit delayed, is there a reason for that?

lean marten
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yes u can

outer lotus
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pog ty

lean marten
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*Galecaller’s Boon is used every minute, you only need to hold it for burst (that is, 0:04 - 1:04 - 2:25 - 3:25 - 4:25). If the time of fight allows, you can hold Galecaller’s Boon until ~1:30 (for ~8 seconds before 3 exsanguinate use) and give burst a little later, about 2:30 +

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Its just a bit more clumsy and harder to optimize

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whereas macro-ing plume into vend will get u to 99% optimization lol

vast forum
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^ this

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although i would disagree with gcb on 0:04, it's better to just press it insta 😄

outer lotus
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@dire spoke just found a gcb in my bank if you still need it

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trinket2=,id=159614,bonus_id=6536/40/6515/1637/4786,context=16

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hey yoppa im trying to take ur spot at NHF monkascheme

dire spoke
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I fiddled it from wowhead thanks, those bonus IDs confused me

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but you don't need them for some reason

outer lotus
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think thats because i have avoidance on mine?

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idk though

dire spoke
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mhm also yeah

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tyty

devout fiber
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Need help

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with picking essences

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I'm running Breath as Major with Focusing Iris, Lucid dreams, and Crucible of flame

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as minors

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What should I replace vision of perfection for?

hallow coyote
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For what kind of content

devout fiber
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PvP

hallow coyote
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Probably get a more informed answer

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I'd say Conflict and Strife though

wary relic
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has anyone got any good WA's for pandemic timings for garrote, rupture and crimson tempest?

strange python
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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I think all of those do

hallow obsidian
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hey there boyz and girlz

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im super confused on how should i properly sim because of too many combinations

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if in any chance one of you have time and raidbots premium this is my sim input

normal olive
lean marten
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prolly want to purify that tent dagger for exp3

hallow obsidian
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i have severe 3 i can put in instead

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should i?

strange python
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nah

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56 is okay to run and losing 15 corr isnt worth it

devout fiber
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@strange python I got tentacle corruption on my dagger

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I was told to get Severe corruption too

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Would I apply that on my other dagger or?

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The one on my dagger is 66 corruption

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But the one in store says 10 corruption

strange python
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well it depends what build you run for what content and how much corruption you are comfy with

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best is to sim it

devout fiber
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Right

indigo elk
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does shadowmeld not give empowered garrote?

quasi pewter
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shrouded suffocation works with shadowmeld, subterfuge doesnt

indigo elk
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hmm might be my WA i guess not showing empowered garrote

quasi pewter
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maybe the wa only shows that it is empowered if its empowered by subterfuge

indigo elk
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Yeah i think so probs

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thanks tho

devout fiber
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acc we good

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.wa

tropic sand
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Guys, any of you with the full haste build is doing arenas? I wanna know how this built can handle pvp, mostly some 2s

crimson palm
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No

tropic sand
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Cause I'll only have echos for 1 build

silent crescent
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Idk maybe with a healer, double dps is so fast though that gushing is pretty big

fallow otter
unkempt nacelle
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what is better to sim for m+, 5 targets in 40sec/1min or dungeon slice?

rain obsidian
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is it worth to go with echoing blades on carapace on mythic?

vast forum
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no

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play ST every boss unless you're padding for logs

fallow otter
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if you're raid spex CT then you have aoe anyway

rain obsidian
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yeah i use crimson tempest ty

young vessel
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any tips to do big parse on carapace m?

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just go big on boss?

balmy condor
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@unkempt nacelle I personally would say 5 target 1 min

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Dungeon slice works fine, it’s just less aoe

crimson palm
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Assa doesn't feel that bad without all the corruption btw

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On beta It's all depleted and still plays fine

tranquil dust
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Is it too early to see how well rogues compare to other dps?

balmy condor
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yep

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especially when we just got legendaries yesterday

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and no tuning passes :)

steep obsidian
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yeh atm they only care about how rogue plays

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sin plays ok

fathom swift
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And a bunch of legendaries dont work

steep obsidian
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its not too different

tranquil dust
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I was hearing the rotation is awkward

steep obsidian
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yeah if you take the bonespike thing it seems a lot of gcds to open imo

balmy condor
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sin ramp time is back bois

steep obsidian
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like in a dungeon if you play subterfuge it feels like you press like 8 gcds beofr eyou start to do anything

tranquil dust
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Carpal tunnel here we come

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Yeah I guess just something to get used to

steep obsidian
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i dont know if the way i was playing will be optimum but 3 garrotes follwed by 3 spikes followed by some ruptures n stuff

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need to sit down and just play to get more used to it and setup ui i guess

tranquil dust
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Ah, true

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Hopefully I'll get in soon so I can test

balmy condor
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will be interesting to see if we slice and dice in aoe at all

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might just not be worth the global tbh

thin cargo
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Is shiv only spreading our bleeds or will it spread bone spike too?

balmy condor
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bleeds, but its bugged atm I think

steep obsidian
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thats the lego right?

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that looked interesting

balmy condor
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yeah

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I don't see the value tbh

steep obsidian
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i cant see that ever been useful over cdr vendetta or crit buff

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but who konws they might balance

balmy condor
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its 1 global that takes the place of 3

steep obsidian
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yah

balmy condor
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and aside from that

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not much happening

steep obsidian
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have they said if they will allow 2 or more legos at some point?

balmy condor
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we're almost sure they'll let us have a second later on

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like they did in legion

steep obsidian
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would make sense

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i doubt as early as in legion though i guess

tranquil dust
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Maybe 1 per raid patch or something

balmy condor
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that is definitely not happening

tranquil dust
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Wouldn't that be like 3 total by the end?

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Not much different than the OP corruptions they are doing right now

balmy condor
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that would make it probably 5

tranquil dust
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Ah, yeah I see 3 cap maybe

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If they don't do 2, then something to improve the legs later

balmy condor
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I think 2 for the whole expansion and then a legendary for the last patch similar to how we have the wrathion cloak now

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anything more than that would be insane imo

tranquil dust
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Yeah, that is true

ember stirrup
balmy condor
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yeah, blood minor with CLF is usually the go-to

winged basin
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so I know its really really really early still, but predictions on how rogues will look next xpac?

balmy condor
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they'll be fine like always

winged basin
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ye, just heard lots of stuff from lots of people but I know its still early so :/

rough yarrow
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anyone remembers when is exp3 again?

balmy condor
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8/11 for NA

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8/12 for EU

rough yarrow
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cheers

feral shuttle
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Do rogues have conduits in this new build on beta? Anyone know?

balmy condor
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not yet

feral shuttle
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😦

winged basin
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rogues getting the shaft for changes rn lmaoo

silent crescent
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Hope we get some poison conduits that make slaughter make sense....

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Like the leggos that made sepsis good

orchid warren
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hey so I heard I should basically stack expedient. Is severe good aswell?

silent crescent
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Different builds

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You go crit for m+ and aoe

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Haste is for st mainly

orchid warren
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yeah my aoe set already got like 38%

balmy condor
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yep yep

orchid warren
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amazing answer ty

balmy condor
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you'll want more than that

orchid warren
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i guess more crit for more fan of knives proc?

silent crescent
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Echoing blades

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Very strong

orchid warren
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yeah that

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I already stack 3x

balmy condor
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ideally around 55-60%

silent crescent
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Severe + strikethrough

orchid warren
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great

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what about single target?

balmy condor
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exped all the way

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with a honed mind at the end

silent crescent
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Full expedient, can do the mastery proc one at max corruption resistance

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Ye

orchid warren
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Should I keep stuff like TD and infinite stars?

balmy condor
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no

orchid warren
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or just stats

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yeah ok

balmy condor
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only if you don't have anything else in that slot

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TD is better

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but IS PepePuke

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get that shit out of here

orchid warren
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understood

balmy condor
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mind flays are good too

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like on cara daggers, if you don't have the exped/severe/strikes to cleanse

orchid warren
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I got rank 1 td on one of my daggers for my mythic plus set cuz I dont have anything else

balmy condor
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yeah that's fine

orchid warren
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it does help but not much on longer fights I guess

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anyways ty

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finally I know what corruptions I should go for

balmy condor
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np

jolly spoke
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so basically full crit spec, keep flay on cara daggers then go full expediant?

balmy condor
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full crit for m+ if you want the aoe

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haste works fine though until mega high keys

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full expedient is a raid build mainly

rustic spoke
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I have like...5 or 6 exp 3's and 2 or 3 severe's for the mix of content i do and its bananas

balmy condor
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yeah I mean that kinda works I guess

rustic spoke
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with all my azerite stuff and trinkets / procs I can get myself alone up to almost 95% crit and 120% haste with just self proc buffs

balmy condor
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more stats will always be okay

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but not ideal either way

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it works though for sure

rustic spoke
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I do a bit of everything so its not bad for what I do (15's, heroic raiding, and a bit of pvp)

balmy condor
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yeah can bring in basically anything into those :P

rustic spoke
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I'm old now so i dont have time for mythic raiding anymore

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the diminishing returns on time invested for the item rewards gets real going harder / farther than I already go

main forge
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I mean... its end of the tier at this point... even raiding 4-6 hours a week should be able to progress on mythic with a group of 20 that works on it.

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6+ months at this point right?

rustic spoke
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I only PvE as much as i need to be competitive in pvp tho, so

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yeah

balmy condor
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probably should've considered gushing stacking then

weak oak
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how much unbuffed haste do you need for exsang. build?

ember stirrup
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I have an issue with a weakaura script for pandemic. This one work perfeclty with rupture. When rutpure is at 8.4 or 7.2 sec remaining, the color change in green for the number of CP than I currently have. But idk why, that doesn't work for CT, the weakaura is ON at 8sec, but 14*0.3 = 4.2sec

balmy condor
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tick marks at the end need to be on a new line

ember stirrup
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function()
    local this = WeakAuras.regions[aura_env.id].region.text
    local tempest = GetSpellInfo(121411)
    local cp = UnitPower("player",4)
    local isTemp,_,_,_,_,tempExp = WA_GetUnitDebuff("target",tempest,"player")
    
    if isTemp then
        if ((tempExp-GetTime())/((4*cp)+4)) < 0.3 then
            this:SetTextColor(0,255,0,255)
        else 
            this:SetTextColor(255,255,255,255)
        end
        
    end
end
balmy condor
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yep

ember stirrup
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If somebody have the answer

balmy condor
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found it

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if ((tempExp-GetTime())/((4*cp)+4)) < 0.3 then

rustic spoke
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anyone else incredibly dissapointed our legendaries are just copy pasted from legion so far mostly?

balmy condor
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should be 2*cp + 2

sullen pagoda
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im actually glad they are

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our legion legos were strong af

ember stirrup
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Why 2*cp+2

main forge
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You can pull off exsang build between 20-30% haste imo

ember stirrup
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I don't understand this line btw

rustic spoke
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ya but with being able to select them doesnt it just default everyone to using mantle?

balmy condor
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cause CT has different duration

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you're calculating the pandemic time based on the time from rupture

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but that won't work for CT since its much shorter

sullen pagoda
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mantle isnt that op as u think

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if anything id say default will be wrists for prog

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or w.e slot it is now

ember stirrup
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Oh yes

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I see

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I'm fucking stupid

sullen pagoda
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30% dmg under 30% is nuts for prog

balmy condor
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yeah, the execute wrists are the only thing I see being huge

ember stirrup
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Thath work well, thank you !

balmy condor
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np

rustic spoke
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mantle, execute wrists, and vendetta CD were top 3 in legion iirc

sullen pagoda
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yes but mantle being top heavily depends on what meta assa build will be

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if its not a burst heavy one mantle can be really mediocre

balmy condor
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slice and dice

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:D

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auto top damage

main forge
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Slice and Dice is now a permanent buff(future legendary)

balmy condor
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wow

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what interesting gameplay

fleet whale
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ironically what also made mantle strong was legion poison bomb rng

main forge
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Also 2x buff to crits on white hits

fleet whale
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the openers i got when the stars aligned were a site to see

sullen pagoda
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? what

balmy condor
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that's not what made mantle strong

sullen pagoda
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poison bomb was just an extra it didnt give any base value to mantle lol

fleet whale
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i mean it helped

rustic spoke
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I'm assuming Mantle + sepsis will be nice.

sullen pagoda
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yeah if it works together

rustic spoke
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why wouldnt it?

sullen pagoda
balmy condor
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yeah I mean mantle buffing your auto attacks also helped

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but that doesn't mean mantle was strong

sullen pagoda
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its blizzard they are weird with their interactions

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so we have to wait for it

rustic spoke
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I mean it looks like we're all gonna craft a full set of legendaries for the armor transmog anyways so I'm sure we'll have options and swap a lot

balmy condor
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transmogs

main forge
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I'd like to see a legendary that allows us to stealth in combat, or gives us an AOE kidney shot.

balmy condor
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what channel is this

sullen pagoda
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hopefully they will be easy to craft

silent crescent
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Glad they actually look good... remember legion leggo mogs?

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Jfc, so ugly

fleet whale
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i think we'll be able to craft one roughly ever 2-3 weeks

balmy condor
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I liked how mantle looked tbh

fleet whale
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legion leggos were just reskins

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mantle was just t13 i think

main forge
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Ugliest Rogue set? GO

fleet whale
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icc

sullen pagoda
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ye legion legendaries were all old models

fleet whale
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but if you count BFA "rogue" sets (there are none) then EP leather set

balmy condor
silent crescent
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Is icc set the fucking sackhead set?

balmy condor
fleet whale
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yes

rustic spoke
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yes

silent crescent
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Agree

rustic spoke
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I lol everytime I see dragonsoul /batman set

fleet whale
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i kind of like the essence of bloodfang leggo tbh

main forge
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I was so happy for that. I hated the ICC set.

rustic spoke
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bloodfang and doomblade are my favorites.

fleet whale
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the leggos or the transmog

rustic spoke
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sex

fleet whale
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this will by my last xmog comment on this channel but they need to make an HD bloodfang

silent crescent
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Kinda sad we got some throughput leggos that probably will never see use over some utility/qol ones like legion feint heal pants

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They were only annoying when you could rng into them, and filler leggos also only served a purpose for that same reason

fleet whale
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the pants were really good for the mage tower challenges

silent crescent
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I liked being invincible in wpvp

main forge
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Gushing wound on a legendary would be frigging sweet imo.

fleet whale
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GW won't be in SL

silent crescent
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I mean isnt that kinda what we got from the bleed leggo that heals you? Obv wont be close to the same dmg

main forge
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No i mean as the affix to the legendary

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yeah I guess that is essentially gushing with a leech aspect

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although I wonder if FoK will increase the proc chance.

stone gust
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can someone explain recursion to me with overclocing bit band, like can it just keep reproccing after three new ones?

balmy condor
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once the cooldown goes away

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you cast 3 spells

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and it procs

stone gust
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okay

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also is it to late to go for expedient bleed build?

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or should i just go half severe half haste for now

silent crescent
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I mean if you grind the echoes you can buy it all when it comes back in a couple weeks

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Too late just depends on you

stone gust
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yea i am at 21k

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i can easily get it by then

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but what if i can only fill with 465s

balmy condor
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thats fine

stone gust
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and i just want high haste pieces with 3 SS

balmy dome
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Anyone got a slice and dice weak aura for beta yet?

balmy condor
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wdym a slice and dice weak aura

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isn't it just 1 trigger on aura

balmy dome
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probs is

dense jolt
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If I'm running CLF should I use 2nd CDs while CLF is still on 1 min cd, then save CLF for when 3rd CDs come up? Or just use CLF off cd?

balmy condor
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depends on fight length

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if you're not missing casts, you line up

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if you would miss casts by holding, you would cast

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so if you get a 3rd cds

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you would cast on cd

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cause it'll line up for that

dense jolt
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i see ty

tranquil dust
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Q: With rupture, sometimes I run into an issue where its going to expire just after I hit a mutilate or shortly after Envenom/Crimson Tempest.... Should I rather just hit another mutilate and waste combo points to get a 6pt rupture, or just mutilate and put a 2-3 combo rupture up? Rupture will have lost about 2 or so seconds I think if I wait and then apply the very small 2-3 combo on it. On top of that, if I do rupture just to get it back on the target asap with the 2-3 points, should I just go straight to a 5-6 combo and rupture again, or let it get down to the pandemic timer? I hope that makes sense...

balmy condor
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you shouldn't get in that problem to begin with if you're using pandemic timers

wet ruin
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you get in that position quite often though

balmy condor
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do you?

wet ruin
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yea, usually after exsanguinated rupture

tranquil dust
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Yeah I generally get in a tight spot around that time

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Maybe I need to watch my timers better rather than rely on the glowing box lol

balmy condor
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usually long enough for me to get rupture up

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but I guess its a little tight

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I personally let rupture drop, but 2-3 CP rupture is probably fine

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rupture damage is linear with CP

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so you're fine putting it up

wet ruin
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pretty sure apl uses low cp rupture as well

balmy condor
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yeah

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I think so too

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either way its very minimal I would think

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we're talking like less than 100dps most likely

tranquil dust
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Sweet, thanks! 🙂

balmy condor
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np

stone gust
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what is the severe/strike build compared to full expedient?

balmy condor
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3x SS 3x EB 55-60% crit, rest strikethrough, big FoK damage

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you run CT/TB

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used in m+

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crit raid build would be similar but with DD/ttk/hod/bbi/clock traits

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usually you'll see the big TB boys on logs rng cheesing mind flay tentacles

median badge
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is there any bonus to run more than one Nothing Personal

balmy condor
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more damage kekw

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we don't really run NP at all anymore

fleet whale
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run 3 NP with VOP

median badge
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its leveling gear since i cant get my bis yet haha

balmy condor
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if you're undergeared you'd take one, any more than that and you're going VoP major for the memes

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yeah leveling gear its fine

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VoP major works fine

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you'll need 3 for that

median badge
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ttk or np

balmy condor
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ttk

median badge
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ok ty

balmy condor
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at least if you already have an NP

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if you don't take the NP

median badge
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im 453 ilvl with 420 shoulders 435 helm and 445 chest. >.>

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wtb raids

balmy condor
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yucky

median badge
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its rough coming back to an xpac so late

balmy condor
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yeah I mean youre basically gearing to level shadowlands smoothly

median badge
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should i take a 3rd ss and get rid of np

normal olive
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What build are you playing?

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The 3x NP IT build?

median badge
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this is leveling gear but i wanna to the exsang i think

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so my haste isnt there yet

stone gust
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im just debating between going severe build or holding off for the haste build

rancid bobcat
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balanced gems

strange python
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rings 😮

rancid bobcat
#

ORANGE

#

IT'S HERE

#

truly this is stat balance nirvana

#

well

strange python
#

Yoppa is raid testing POG

quasi pewter
strange python
#

I feel like details is bugged on beta xD

void sinew
#

expedient works food buffs too right?

balmy condor
#

yes

void sinew
#

so you are pretty much getting like 170 haste from food

balmy condor
#

yeah somewhere around there

void sinew
#

so it's like legit griefing to go crit food over haste?

balmy condor
#

not necessarily

normal olive
#

It's also griefing if you don't follow my opener >:c

strange python
#

so should i be eating haste food? ive been eating crit this whole time

void sinew
#

i eat crit for the 3 combo point opener

balmy condor
#

similarly to how some people sim higher with crit or vers or mast gems

#

food would be similar

#

haste food is the usual though

strange python
#

I sim slightly Higher with Vers food as well, so there's that

#

omg i didnt even know i could sim food

#

Game changer

void sinew
#

wait

#

how?

balmy condor
#

there's an option for it in the settings at the bottom

#

under the fight time

void sinew
#

oh gotcha

strange python
#

Sim options, then show more options

#

You can also go so am advanced sim and simply make x amount of copies of your gearset just with different food every time to compare everything at once

#

I just have a preset for that for all food and pot combinations

#

Bet a similar one can be found here somewhere. On mobile so I can't link mine

balmy condor
#

damn buck was faster than me

normal olive
#

the fastest buck in the west

strange python
#

Thats without Vers food though

#

y

#

So Just Copy the last 3 paragraphs and Change food to "biltong"

#

And the names as well

#

Wow that's pretty useful, had no idea

balmy condor
#

I added the vers ones

strange python
#

Ez, now it's complete

#

Next time its linked I wanna see this version

balmy condor
#

I have seperate ones for my food/pots

#

but combining them makes more sense

#

so I guess I'm using that now

#

XD

strange python
#

yoppa poppin in raid testing

#

should i try to sim food with my cursed sim? 8)

balmy condor
#

lmao

dry terrace
#

!wa

prisma monolithBOT
devout fiber
#

Essence of the cofusing iris

#

Minor

#

that's not good at all for aoe right?

balmy condor
#

iris minor isn't great in aoe

devout fiber
#

About to do a Horrific*

red plaza
#

Raid?

devout fiber
#

nah not raid

#

I've been doing mythics dungeon

#

not sure what to be running thou

balmy condor
#

iris major, flame, lucid vision minor

red plaza
#

And then level those essences 🙂

#

Or not since they’re going away in a couple of months

devout fiber
#

Trying to get rank 2 for lucid

#

by getting partner xp

normal olive
#

Imagine not playing C&S major kekw

devout fiber
#

From what I know

#

I've been told Outlaw is the best for PVE

#

and sub is best for PvP

balmy condor
#

no

devout fiber
#

so is assa just in the middle?

normal olive
balmy condor
#

definitely not

devout fiber
#

oh

normal olive
#

who told you that

red plaza
#

Uh oh 😬

devout fiber
#

Some outlaw who I just played with

#

in mythic

normal olive
balmy condor
#

that guy is a clown lmao

#

outlaw is slightly better than sin in dungeons

#

sin is better than everything in raids

#

and sin is basically the only thing you take in pvp

devout fiber
#

Sub's that bad huh

red plaza
#

It’s good in double dps 2s

#

And that’s about it

balmy condor
#

bout 20-30% worse than sin in raids and dungeons

devout fiber
#

Yikes

#

@balmy condor that fan of blades trait

#

has been helping my dmg a lot

#

for aoe's

balmy condor
#

yep, that's what it does

devout fiber
#

You think I can do a full clear horrific

#

I've had some guy i randomly met on WoW boosting me

#

Really nice guy but he aint on all the time xD

balmy condor
#

I mean, with proper mechanics etc

#

should be doable

devout fiber
#

I don't need to kill all the adds right?

normal olive
#

what rank is your cloak

devout fiber
#

10

balmy condor
#

yeah should be doable

#

just do the objectives

red pagoda
#

how about your research

#

do you have gift?

devout fiber
normal olive
#

oh god

red pagoda
#

yea no

#

that's not gonna work out

normal olive
devout fiber
#

f

balmy condor
red pagoda
#

you need elite extermination asap

devout fiber
#

I'm not getting there for some time

#

Looks like i'm gna need him to boost me afterall xD

balmy condor
#

yeah no extermination is rough

devout fiber
#

He aint on rn, any of u bothered to boost me?

fleet whale
#

you should've only chosen one thing in the first tree

#

either the extra sanity or damage not both

balmy condor
#

could find someone in trade chat

#

I see a lot of people selling boosts these days

devout fiber
#

People pay for boosts?

fleet whale
#

they are getting cheaper too relatively speaking

devout fiber
#

How much gold they charge

fleet whale
#

depends on the clear

devout fiber
#

Full clear no masks

normal olive
#

50-100k on my server

fleet whale
#

if it's no masks regular clear prob not much

normal olive
#

for 5 mask clears

devout fiber
#

Jesus

#

i only got 20k

fleet whale
#

full clear no masks def isn't 50k

normal olive
#

5 mask i said

fleet whale
#

it's harder to find sellers for it however

red plaza
#

50-60k is about right

balmy condor
#

that's why he said 5 mask

normal olive
devout fiber
#

I got about

#

I can purchase 2 more entries

#

from Mother

#

but idk if should hold onto them or not to be able ot buy corruption

red plaza
#

Tbh, just have fun with it and work your way up

balmy condor
#

yeah nothing matters atm

red plaza
#

Everything is ending soon

fleet whale
#

soon TM

normal olive
#

all that matters is that you have fun till shadowlands

red plaza
#

No point trying to get raid/mythic geared. If you’re coming back just enjoy the bfa stuff

devout fiber
#

Yeah but thts what I want to do

#

first time hitting 120

#

want to gear this baby up

balmy condor
#

that's not happening this expansion

devout fiber
#

Not fully geared perse but at least a decent ilvl

fleet whale
#

he could probably get his char heroic geared tbh in that time

#

like all of august and likely september

red plaza
#

Yeah corruption cloak resistance and echoes and essences are time gated as fuck

balmy condor
#

decent ilvl won't matter either

normal olive
#

my dh has full hc gear

#

and does 30k

devout fiber
#

the reason i want a high cape rank is cuz this guild requires it

#

they're asking rank 12

#

to be able to join them

fleet whale
#

12 is doable

balmy condor
#

yeah 12 is whatever

fleet whale
#

but what level are they raiding

devout fiber
#

for raids

#

445

#

i'm 447

balmy condor
#

sounds like normal

devout fiber
#

Yeah I kinda want to experience raiding

fleet whale
#

idk if i would require rank 12 for normal/heroic but it's their decision

devout fiber
#

and having a proper guild

balmy condor
#

expansion done

#

move on

#

next expac you can raid

royal lantern
#

look for a heroic raiding guild for the next expac and start there i gues

fleet whale
#

i noticed a lot of guilds at all levels recruit at an expansions end

red plaza
#

Best bet ask to join them as is and trial for SL. That way you’ll experience their guild and culture and they may help you out.

fleet whale
#

so if you look hard enough you could get lucky and essentially get "carried" through HC to get aotc

royal lantern
#

but ye, atleast heroic

devout fiber
#

Yeah the friend that boosted me

#

for heroics

royal lantern
#

dont join normal only guilds

devout fiber
#

has a serious guild

royal lantern
#

those are HARD casual

devout fiber
#

but the thing is u gotta be in their realm

#

i'm not, but even then he said he'll find me a slot for HC raids

fleet whale
#

you can raid heroic cross-server

#

But in terms of SL release, the latest it will likely be is Mid-december but i think it could launch in Nov. So pre-patch will come in either Oct or nov.

#

so you have like 2.5-3 months of BFA stuff which i guess you could try to cram everything in but it may not be worth it

thin gate
#

guys if i want to parse with 3x NP and VOP what corruptions should i go for?

#

is it haste ?

balmy condor
#

you would go haste

#

and then not use 3x NP and VoP

strange python
#

just go vers so NP does more damage

#

POG

normal olive
#

No don't listen to Whispyr

thin gate
#

9x expedient with raden and wrathion trinket

balmy condor
#

I've done the sims on VoP major

thin gate
#

i want to try it on Mythic n zoth

balmy condor
#

don't ask why

#

but its fucking awful

strange python
#

and vers pulls ahead

#

by FAR

balmy condor
#

no

normal olive
#

@thin gate if you wanna Parse with 3x NP and VoP, you would stack IT and run full versa

balmy condor
#

it doesn't

#

lmao

#

STOP

thin gate
#

ok @normal olive

balmy condor
#

I hate you guys

strange python
#

run full vers cors or IT cors

normal olive
strange python
#

and then only vers gems and enchants

#

double versatile nav on weps

#

giga OP

normal olive
#

no that's troll

#

why would you use the same enchant twice

strange python
#

sry I mean force multiplier

#

and vers

#

mb

balmy condor
normal olive
#

no joke i'm serious about this build

balmy condor
#

gonna go die now

normal olive
#

Why

strange python
#

I think u run feral pvp gear tbh

#

so u run vers > mastery

#

as stats

fading oak
#

!GUIDE

prisma monolithBOT
balmy condor
#

up to date exsang guide in pins btw

fading oak
#

oh thanks

normal olive
#

i should write a guide on what to do

strange python
#

u should write an IT vop guide

loud light
#

definitely an opener guide at least

strange python
#

true

#

always start with mfd kidney

normal olive
#

next time IT is here i have 30k echoes

#

time to buy

thin gate
#

so versa from all sources or IT ?

#

what is actually better

#

has any1 simmed it

#

and stat weights are Versa>mastery>Crit>haste ?

balmy condor
#

out of those 2

#

probably IT

#

but please

#

don't do it

#

if you're doing VoP major, you would haste

strange python
#

@normal olive I think u should use ripple major to practice venthyr tp 8)

balmy condor
#

but VoP major sucks

normal olive
#

Not gonna play venthyr

thin gate
#

i thought it may work at n zoth mythic

#

for psychus phase

balmy condor
#

psychus extra damage is filtered out for logs?

strange python
#

IT giga good for psychus and n'zoth

balmy condor
#

???

normal olive
#

It works on every boss

thin gate
#

i mean for progress @balmy condor something viable for my guild in progress

balmy condor
#

well

#

VoP is viable if you want to do -15% dps

#

but why would you do that

#

VoP major and 3x NP is actual trash

strange python
#

he means ~15% dps more

balmy condor
#

just play exsang

strange python
thin gate
#

i thought @quasi pewter played a very good log a few months ago with vop build

balmy condor
#

oh my fucking god I'm getting trolled again

#

I fucking hate everything

strange python
#

by me yes

normal olive
#

I found the best essence in the game

strange python
#

not sure about ryluk

normal olive
#

i beat wow

strange python
#

is it conflict major?

normal olive
#

Spark major

#

just use it and go afk

strange python
normal olive
#

xD

strange python
#

just for whispyr

thin gate
#

well ima stick to haste i guess

#

dunno what to do with my echoes leftovers

#

prob versa for pvp

balmy condor
#

I'm in here all day ready to help every lost soul

dull crypt
#

buy vessels and get gems xd

balmy condor
#

and this is the repayment

#

I'm getting cyberbullied

strange python
#

I need to flex my 91 ivl daggers

#

not everyone got those

balmy condor
#

tru

#

even the top mythic parses don't have 91 ilvl daggers

strange python
#

cost me 30 gold

#

true

normal olive
#

Whispyr wanna see something new i found? feelsloveman

strange python
#

yes he does

#

always

balmy condor
#

I'm so sad

#

hit me with it

#

I can't sink any lower

strange python
#

Btw

#

my stygian guise sims higher than irontide

#

by 1 dps 8)

normal olive
#

i got nothing

thin gate
balmy condor
#

that's the third time someone's trolled me

thin gate
#

this are my stats rn

balmy condor
#

and I just don't see it

strange python
#

2% more crit needed ryluk

#

omg

#

need that 34% crit ASAP

#

most important part of exsang build

thin gate
#

waiting for gorak tul

#

lel

normal olive
#

I thought you would like to know i didn't fuck up today pepehands

strange python
#

u need 34% base crit

#

so u can get r6 log on maut 8)

thin gate
#

if i get ilgynoth and raden shoulders and helm

#

i will have it

#

bcs of HOD

#

and maybe a raden trinket + carapace dagger

strange python
#

Im memeing

#

but u need mecha rings asap

thin gate
#

ilgy + raden should be exactly 34

strange python
#

no joke

thin gate
#

do i @buckstubber ?

strange python
#

y

thin gate
#

i have all

#

except the 2 i need

#

lol

balmy condor
#

I actually don't even know whats real and whats troll anymore

strange python
thin gate
#

this guy aint lyin

fleet whale
#

the top two wrathion logs for sin

thin gate
#

all he says is true

fleet whale
#

aren't running exsang

strange python
#

yes

#

I am full time serious

thin gate
#

@fleet whale aint they playing Mindflay?

fleet whale
#

yes

thin gate
#

and just kill him in 1 min lol

strange python
#

rank 1 shad har is tentacles aswell

thin gate
#

give me t 12 stars

#

and 10 stacks in 30 secs

#

ima be r1

fleet whale
#

and top Xanesh

thin gate
#

maybe T 27 Stars works too

#

for R 1 Logs

strange python
#

y

#

that one seems good

#

just run 600 corruption

thin gate
#

we are rogues

#

we got cloak

#

and wrathion cloak

#

should be enough

#

if 4 pala heals in raid

strange python
#

ye lets forget about the 200 cor debuff 8)

#

or idk depends on kill time I guess

#

just play r27 tentacles and get 9 procs in opener 8)

quasi pewter
#

vop major was legit on pure st before vendor

balmy condor
#

yeh and then came up, we all got exped, and now its like 15% down

thin gate
#

but what should i do to increase my dps in psychus phase?

#

my guild needs me to deal more dps on tentacles

#

but i have lack dps because 24/7 target switch

balmy condor
#

press your envenom button more

thin gate
#

rupture not worth even casting it?

balmy condor
#

if you press the key harder, it'll do more damage

normal olive
strange python
#

navi

#

time to destroy your mfd kidney button

normal olive
#

I'ma kidney the bosses so hard they surrender and give us all the loots

strange python
#

they just give the entire raid every piece available

normal olive
#

The entire raid? i'ma solo those bosses

strange python
#

true

#

well entire raid still a true statement

young dust
#

hey, guys! do you recommend any assa rogues on youtube/twitch that run big m+ keys? Found Morningbryg but most of his videos are outdated

normal olive
#

If you wanna get some help with openers you could watch my stream

strange python
#

navi streaming?!

normal olive
#

Like once a year monkascheme

loud light
#

@young dust look up ryfie for assassination high keys

thin gate
#

guys is there any information about when SL is launched?

#

cant c this n zoth mfcker

#

this whole hentai party tentacle stuff

#

i want the Legion mantle back

#

as legendarie

normal olive
#

this whole hentai party tentacle stuff
@thin gate wat

thin gate
#

n zoth

#

this whole tentacles

#

i cant c them anymore lel

normal olive
#

then just turn your monitor off during raids

thin gate
#

im legally blind

fading oak
#

so im still not sure wether to buy mind flays, expedient or infinite stars?

balmy condor
#

for raids, expedient

normal olive
#

IT

fading oak
#

xD

strange python
#

Glimpse of clarity peperogue

normal olive
#

Some day i'll show you the real power of inefitable truth Whispyr monkascheme

#

Can NP crit?

balmy condor
#

yes

normal olive
#

Okay Vers > Crit it is then

#

thanks

balmy condor
#

I'm gonna lose my mind

normal olive
#

in 2 weeks

#

Just gotta get good NP pieces

thin gate
#

so NP VOP still OP

hollow jolt
#

NP for pve?

thin gate
#

maybe with masterful and master poisoner

normal olive
#

no

thin gate
#

full versa mastery gear and masterful

#

thats it

balmy condor
#

I actually want to cry

normal olive
#

3x NP with VoP

#

with full stack IT

thin gate
#

maybe with azerite beam

#

and 3 x np

hollow jolt
#

but why doe

normal olive
#

for that sweet Vendetta uptime

balmy condor
#

cause they're trolling out of their minds

strange python
#

onono whispyr

thin gate
#

i think Haste maybe better

strange python
#

now you're spreading false imformation

thin gate
#

than IT

hollow jolt
#

tbf its probably more fun lmao

normal olive
#

I just want to play fun stuff

thin gate
#

bcs of the many VOP procs

normal olive
fading oak
#

they trolling? so ur saying i just wasted echoes on masterful corruption?...

normal olive
#

Hold up

balmy condor
#

.......

hollow jolt
#

sorry to bring it to you

#

but yes

normal olive
#

3x NP with 3x Scent

#

for the IT build

balmy condor
#

I can't fucking tell anymore

#

what's a fucking troll

hollow jolt
#

THREE SCENT

balmy condor
#

and who's actually needing help

hollow jolt
#

LETS GO

normal olive
#

This shit is gonna slap

strange python
#

I heard scent?

fading oak
#

jesus, i came here cuz i thought u knew ur shiiit here

strange python
fading oak
#

fuuk i hate farming echoes

hollow jolt
#

TRIPLE TTK WHEN?!?!?!?

normal olive
#

I'm just theory crafting shit

#

xD

strange python
#

SCENT TTK

hollow jolt
#

SCENT TTK META

#

WHEN

strange python
#

WITH NP

#

LOOK

#

SIIIIIIICK

#

AND ECHOING BLADES FOR HIDDEN BLADES

#

is giga OP

balmy condor
#

everything hurts

strange python
#

and double HEED

#

ouff

#

and then venom rush to top it off

#

perfect build

hollow jolt
#

BLINDSIDE TALENT USE WHEN

#

VENOM RUSH TOO

strange python
#

OPENR IS NIGHTSTALKED FOK

#

siiiiiiick

hollow jolt
#

LISTEN HERE

normal olive
#

Hmh with Raid azerite traits i could go 3x NP 3x TTK

strange python
#

dont @ me

hollow jolt
#

BLIND SIDE / NIGHSTALK / MFD / CHEAT / INTERNAL / VENUM RUSH / HIDDEN BLADES

strange python
#

and pvp tank trinket so u dont die to maut

hollow jolt
#

HEAR ME OUT

#

NEW META

#

!!!

strange python
#

nah nah nah

#

MP > blindside

#

with wound poison

#

POOOG

normal olive
#

I'm missing a NP and TTK Helm shit

hollow jolt
#

just get the pvp helm

#

ez

umbral rapids
#

@balmy condor what are they doing to you lol

strange python
#

this

normal olive
#

I'm just theory crafting

#

not trying to troll Whispyr

balmy condor
#

forcing me to mute ravenholdt

hollow jolt
#

dw whisp I'm a good boy, I play my exang build

balmy condor
#

I assume

umbral rapids
#

Lmao

strange python
#

I play this in raid

#

I average 45 logs

#

am I good?

hollow jolt
#

I will be putting gushing on my 485 daggers for pvp but

#

I'm running exang build

balmy condor
#

I was like, its slow enough, people have questions

#

I'll leave sin channel unmuted

#

and now its this

hollow jolt
balmy condor
normal olive
#

I need the Siege Head monkascheme

strange python
#

imagine having 485 daggers

hollow jolt
#

I mean I have a severe on my dagger

#

but I use the dagger in keys so

#

severe it is

thin gate
#

guys honestly VOP with stars

#

is that a thing?

hollow jolt
#

NO

thin gate
#

i mean the 30% damage increase of vendetta

#

on the stars

hollow jolt
#

😡

strange python
#

nah

#

vop

#

with glimpse

#

is new meta

#

u wait for glimpse proc

#

then u press vendetta

hollow jolt
#

glimpse omegalul

strange python
#

and u get 1 min vendetta!

#

POG

#

40 sec without vendetta

#

and u have venom rush to make up for energy lost from not having exp

balmy condor
#

vendetta doesn't affect IS

#

only affects abilities and autos

strange python
#

ehm whispyr

#

he was trolling again

#

just fyi

balmy condor
#

maybe I should just quit

strange python
#

No

#

we need you for new players

#

bc when I say sim it

#

they answer with

#

SiM iT

hollow jolt
#

Whisp go to ryfies discord, no troll questions : ]

thin gate
#

tbh

#

i should have just played fire mage

#

lel

normal olive
#

@balmy condor no monkaW

thin gate
#

mastery stack and ur fine

balmy condor
#

yeah no troll questions until kylie starts talking kekw

hollow jolt
#

oh no no no

low girder
#

wtf is happening

hollow jolt
#

kylie

thin gate
#

ok guys, forget that i asked about a NP build

#

forget this topic

balmy condor
#

I wish I could forget a lot of things

thin gate
#

but i cant @balmy condor +

hollow jolt
#

okay whis an actual question here

balmy condor
#

navi's openers come to mind

hollow jolt
#

so this is what I wear rn

strange python
#

replace with IT and u good

balmy condor
#

yeah is that what you're wearing right now ;) smile

strange python
hollow jolt
#

but since I'm 12/12 already I don't really care about having full expedient anymore to get 99 parses

balmy condor
#

i see that belf cleavage

hollow jolt
#

and I will put gushers on 485 daggers and and boots

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how much dmg do you think gushing will add to this

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or will it take away dmg

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if I put away expedient 3 and severe 1 on the daggers

balmy condor
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probably remove damage

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but we can find out

hollow jolt
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just sim it yea

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kek