#assassination | Ravenholdt | Page 3761

dense jolt Jul 28, 2020, 6:36 PM

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you can pre cloak anguish

gleaming viper Jul 28, 2020, 6:36 PM

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the thing i wnat to know ,is if i pre-cos anguish , i dont get affected by it

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oh ty garfielf

dense jolt Jul 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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if you soak thought harvesters with cloak in mythic and anguish comes right after it lines up so you ignore it

gleaming viper Jul 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

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nice !

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tyvm

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 6:44 PM

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just make sure its late enough into their cast

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Progress wiping on xanesh

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peperogue

vital haven Jul 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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got a 475 plummage

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when i alreayd had a 475 plummage

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SucksMan

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Double on use pog

rocky holly Jul 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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1 plummage for AoE and 1 for ST peepohappy

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you're set

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Nairda just doubled plumage uptime for free

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Seems like a win to me

vital haven Jul 28, 2020, 7:01 PM

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rank 1 here we come

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 7:08 PM

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i'll take a 475 plumage today :x

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Or a mech ring so I only need to farm one

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PepeFull

unborn pendant Jul 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Vers sims higher than any of my other stats and Haste sims lower than any of my other stats

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God this is wonky

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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don't use stat weights

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and you wouldn't have to worry about stupid shit like that

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:)

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Hey I have a question. So my rogue has literally 1% vers and I'm simming around 60k dps but I really only have about a 20 second window where im pulling 80k before I drop down to like 45k sustained. Is it worth me trying to get some vers if my SIM still tells me to get more haste and barely prioritizes vers over crit and mastery?

dense blaze Jul 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Vers bad

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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just use top gear

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stat weights don't give you any information you will need

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https://medium.com/raidbots/beware-of-stat-weights-240769a5323e

Medium

Beware of Stat Weights

Friends don’t let friends abuse stat weights.

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internalize this blog post

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Ive read that and I don't. I'm more just curious if its viable to continue to go for zero vers or if getting some would increase my dmg some

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And if vers is bad why is plumage sought so much?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:30 PM

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because its bursty

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there's nothing wrong with vers in theory

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but 90% of the time, you'll see bigger gains from other stats

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plumage just front loads a ton of vers instantly

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and for exsang

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that's pretty hype

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you can think of plumage single target as basically a 12% damage buff

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Ok word. I dont really run exsang. Mainly toxic blade. :p

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I mean, similar concept, smaller scale

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cause tb is more consistent

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less bursty

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Cool thank you. Youve been super informative. blob_hype

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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:) I try

vital haven Jul 28, 2020, 7:34 PM

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MAKE WHISPYR A MOD OR SOMETHING

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:36 PM

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MonkaGiga

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I don't say enough correct info for that

lean marten Jul 28, 2020, 7:37 PM

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thats just how they sucker ppl into staying rogue

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Whispyr is like an unofficial mod

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He is the rogue whisperer

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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wrong discord

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 7:38 PM

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same thing

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:42 PM

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kekw u rite

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its a rogue discord all the same

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just with 2,500 members, not 75,000

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its fine tho, 90% chance I go sub unless sin lego's poppin

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fuu and scathic got that channel on lock

lean marten Jul 28, 2020, 7:46 PM

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u could be the #1 feral TC tho

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kekW

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:47 PM

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druid has theorycrafters?

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kekW

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tettles went hunter this patch

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I'm actually unsure who they have over there

lean marten Jul 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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prolly gapezilla

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idk who else

ebon ocean Jul 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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would be nice if blizz actually released the info for rogues ASpepega

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kinda really annoying to have 0 info when the expac is supposedly out of beta and 'feature complete'

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legendaries that is

median badge Jul 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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if only haste D:

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 7:57 PM

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unlucky

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:26 PM

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can't wait to get home and be disappointed by chest

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Hey so id I wanted to buy some corruptions what besides expediant is worth while. I know twilight is aoe infinite is st but if I'm just looking for one of these so I dont have to swap between gear which would be better. I feel like td

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:31 PM

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if you don't want to swap between gear sets, you can either do the crit path or the haste path

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haste will do better in raid, and worse in some dungeons

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crit will do better in dungeons and worse in raid

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IS is kinda trash outside of like 3 bosses

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TD works, but its not really ideal

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I think im already on my way for the haste path. So just stack as many r3 expediant

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No gushing?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

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gushing isn't corruption heavy enough

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Gotcha

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Ty

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

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My galecaller sims slightly better than plumage

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

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as expected

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

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should i be a real gamer and use it?

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idk how to use it

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:34 PM

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you use it the same way you would plumage

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just stand in the circle

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and cast it every minute

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as long as you hit exsang while standing in the circle every 2 min

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its gonna be good

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:35 PM

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With GCB, do you cast before Vendetta?

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:35 PM

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should i use it when 2nd exs gets off cd and vendetta is like 1min for cd?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:35 PM

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GCB anywhere as long as its before exsang

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and no

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you cast the exsang

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and then the gcb alone

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if you delay exsang, you delay all your cds

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or you miss a cast

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and that's big not good

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:36 PM

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so basically, g,r,g,ven,mut,rup,GCB, exsang

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:36 PM

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sure

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that's fine

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I have it macro'd with vendetta personally cause hitting 2 buttons in the opener at the same time feels weird to me

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but it'll make basically no difference either way

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:37 PM

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oh wait

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you said, cast before or after exsang

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:37 PM

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before

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exsang snapshots haste

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if you cast after exsang

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the trinket actually does nothing

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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got it

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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well

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it would buff your CT

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and your poisons I guess

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but that's as good as doing nothing

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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ya for sure

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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or you can be a big brain and run WV major with ur GCB

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leech shards from nearby fire mages

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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we get it

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you're cursed

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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kekw

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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GCB is a 1m cd, so if I recall from uldir

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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hey so how much mastery is like a good amount of mastery?

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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delay 2nd exsang to line with gcb?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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no

granite tinsel Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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i'm sitting at like 29% right now

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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reread that

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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ok

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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we don't have mastery breakpoints or anything

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whatever works tbh

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if it sims higher, it sims higher

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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yo actually tho, would having a bunch of 1 min cd procs make it worth delaying exsang

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like WV + GCB + 2x clockwork heart

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never right

crimson palm Jul 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fTM6nDHQ2CNqJGVk#fight=3&type=damage-done&source=5

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vita + op + clockwork proc on opener

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mages can eat shit kekchamp

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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@rigid eagle we can find out

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I think the APL doesn't support that

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but we'll see

arctic walrus Jul 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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"we"

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just @ him already

untold current Jul 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Where would u cast the 2nd gcb. Its on a 1min cd

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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:( I want to sim though vel

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you cast on cd

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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how exactly do we even sim for that man

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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wdym

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we gear compare the pieces in

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and then quick sim and see if koji's APL is huge brain

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and if not, then I'm too lazy to write the APL line to compare the two

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and probably will quit

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:44 PM

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peepochrist okie that sounds complicated

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I already finished

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📎 unknown.png

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it doesn't do it

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exsang at 55 just like normal

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:47 PM

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ahh i see

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thx lol

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:47 PM

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but to be fair

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I don't think koji optimized that specific combination

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cause that's testing that isn't worth his time

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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whispyr my quick sim just told me to CLF pre-pull

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yay or nay

lean marten Jul 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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lazy volunteers smh

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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if you're a god gamer

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sure

arctic walrus Jul 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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marginal difference

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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yeah

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I don't think its worth

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but its technically better

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so if you're really hunting for another 100dps

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go for it

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i must deeps

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so it's just what, CLF like 2 sec before pull, stealth, pre-pot, then normal opener?

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Doesn't seem too bad to pull off

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If people actually pull on time

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

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well, ideally you would do CLF as close to pull as possible while still stealthing

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but yeah

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that's generally the idea

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

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too complicated

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i give up already

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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oh and if they pull slightly early its fucked

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so

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thats a huge dps loss lmao

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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yeah im just gonna ignore it

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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you'll need to do a navi opener and vanish

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kinda doomed

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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oh btw, what does the plumage macro look like? does it need a castsequence part?

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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i dont think so

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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#showtooltip
/cast Vendetta
/use 14

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that's for bottom slot

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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you can even slap in your racial if you have one

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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use 13 for top slot

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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pog i see

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I use that for GCB as well

spice spire Jul 28, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Did somebody say opener monkascheme

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 8:57 PM

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monkascheme

spice spire Jul 28, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Filling in for Navi btw

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Oh shit

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 8:57 PM

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@normal olive give me your bestest opener

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Got no new ones

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can look at my logs in a few minutes

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last vex try atm

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Got that sweet floor pov

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time to look at 30 Xanesh wipes peperogue

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:05 PM

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only 30?

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:05 PM

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yeah

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Okay most of these openers don't count

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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why is everyone talking about navis openers? did he burst like 450k and the highest in here

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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we pulled like 15 while we had no cd's up

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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or what did i miss

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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monkascheme

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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navi's openers are cursed

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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📎 POOGERS.PNG

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This is peak dmg

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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ill never ask again

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Shadhar had no idea what was coming for him

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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how do you even come up with that shit

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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I'm smart

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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do you have a stroke

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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peperogue

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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and idk faint on your keyboard?

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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oh you didn't see my stroke openers did you?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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it started off by torturing me with actual scuffed openers

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and now he just theorycrafts the most efficient way to cause me pain

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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📎 holyfuckingshit.PNG

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This one is legit

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peepochrist

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:07 PM

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yeah

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that one I remember

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that was the one that started this whole mess

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:08 PM

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kekw

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I'm sorry to dissapoint but i can't find scuffed openers today

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pepehands

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oh

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i found one

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:09 PM

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that's okay

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you don't have to share

harsh sphinx Jul 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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ytho

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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📎 whatarecooldowns.PNG

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peepostudy

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

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are you trying to be replaced

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

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We didn't wait for cd's

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

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and just see how long you can keep this up

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

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we rezzed and instantly pull 20'd it

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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and you didnt yell that your cds arent ready?

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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like 50% of the time i had to somehow scuff vendetta and Vanish

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50% of the time noone had cd's xD

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the problem was football

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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oh god

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i forgot you said xanesh

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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30 wipes to goofball kekw

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:13 PM

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peepochrist

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:13 PM

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but got vex to 30% on our 4 pull

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tomorrow we gonna kill her peperogue

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:14 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/yeaok-ok-yea-surewhatever-jennifer-lawrence-gif-5380335

Tenor

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:14 PM

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How do you open on vex btw, no idea what would be idea

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

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gar gar gar

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

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idk i put 1 on add and 2 on vex

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then i switch my brain off

lean marten Jul 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

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vex, add, vex

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

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and its dead

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

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📎 vex1.PNG

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I justs did my standard ST opener on vex the other tries because we had enough add dmg

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Should i have tried to get another 6cp rupture in before exsang or just use it after the first one? That's the thing i'm not sure about

lone junco Jul 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@normal olive eww

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

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what peepostudy

lone junco Jul 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

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sry, im probably hours behind.

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the exang vanish garrote.

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:17 PM

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yeah that's an old one

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my old stroke during pull openers

lone junco Jul 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I had a bad one in legion. where Garrote had a cd.

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and I refreshed right before the vanish. and had to sit in time out. chilling in stealth.

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I would hit the add with a rupture after the single target opener on vex

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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hey im doing that quite a lot

lone junco Jul 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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vanish into ... shit i dont have garrote. damn.

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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very awkward

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I think we all do that lmao

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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I don't really have energy problems and the add dies fast enough should i still rupture the add

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peepostudy

glacial crypt Jul 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

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navi i love you

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

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feelsloveman

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

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feels simp

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:20 PM

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tomorrow i might get 8/12 peperogue

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

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poggies

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:21 PM

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but i will not get any mythic gear because we save the id pepehands

quaint vortex Jul 28, 2020, 9:32 PM

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what do you mean by that?

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if you are doing a reclear but are maintaining a lockout extension in case things go bad, it's saved on someone's alt character

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you're doing a fresh run and then someone would be saving the lockout on an alt in case you guys don't reclear up to where you need to

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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really?

dull crypt Jul 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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On mythic its a unique lockout though, you can't use other id's

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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why would you do a fresh run AND maintain a lockout

dull crypt Jul 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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If you're saved to another

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:34 PM

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yeah that too

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:35 PM

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so you have a save lock the next week

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if you fuck up even more somehow

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:35 PM

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uh huh...

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:35 PM

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biggest brain i know

quaint vortex Jul 28, 2020, 9:35 PM

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yeah, it's mainly for guilds that are working on cara/nzoth and want a reclear for some gear or morale

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so someone saves the Nzoth lockout on their alt, you go do a fresh run and ideally clear back up to that point - but if you don't, you still have a lockout at the boss available

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Wouldn’t that lock everyone out tho

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 9:38 PM

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you can save and extend lockouts on single chars

quaint vortex Jul 28, 2020, 9:40 PM

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yeah, that would only happen if every person chose to extend their lockout for some reason

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One person choosing to extend the lockout ID only applies to that one person

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Aha

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I rarely extend

normal olive Jul 28, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Well we extend because people don't want to reclear everything even tho people need gear

loud light Jul 28, 2020, 9:55 PM

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That 100% doesn't work on mythic, if you're talking about it all happening within the same week

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everyone present for the reclear would be saved to the new raid ID

solar latch Jul 28, 2020, 9:59 PM

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hey should I put honed mind rank 3 on a 465 or 475

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not sure if it scales

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Pretty sure it doesn’t scale

young dust Jul 28, 2020, 10:04 PM

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hey guys, is there a minimum/optimal/maximum crit% to aim for when running 2x/3x EB?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:05 PM

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55-60%

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But it’s very hand-wavy

warm olive Jul 28, 2020, 10:06 PM

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since when do azerite items drop from vision chest? i have never seen it in countless vision runs, neither has anyone i know

loud light Jul 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

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they always have been able to if you're getting a reward of the right ilvl

young dust Jul 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

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thanks whispyr!!

loud light Jul 28, 2020, 10:07 PM

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470 can't be azerite though

warm olive Jul 28, 2020, 10:08 PM

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it was a 460, so that must have been my 3rd vision this week?

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could be about right, strange ...

eternal furnace Jul 28, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Is hidden blades ever worth taking over CT in mythics?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:09 PM

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No

young dust Jul 28, 2020, 10:09 PM

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never seen it personally

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Hidden blades has 1 use and that’s for some weird half-ass hivemind cheese

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Outside of that, it’s pretty hot garbage

fading wigeon Jul 28, 2020, 10:09 PM

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How do you use it to cheese?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Well if you, like a lot of other groups, blow up adds instantly

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You can bote into a huge ass fok

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Hitting 3 darters and both bosses at the same time can get kinda saucy

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But nowadays just not worth it

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Hidden blades is just dogshit

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CT is better with haste, more consistent, does more damage

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Poison bomb is rng but does more damage in most situations

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 10:12 PM

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it's like dreadlord's deceit, except not good

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kekw

eternal furnace Jul 28, 2020, 10:12 PM

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What about iris major for fortified weeks over bote?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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DansGame

eternal furnace Jul 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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😂

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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Bote3 > iris3 in aoe

loud light Jul 28, 2020, 10:14 PM

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bote interacts very well with echoing blades

eternal furnace Jul 28, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Aight ty 🙂

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I tried outlaw in mythic earlier and wanted to cry

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 10:14 PM

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@eternal furnace demon hunters only take iris because they press eyebeam and instantly spike to 500k haste

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so they finish the entire iris cast in a microsecond

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Yeah

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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we cant do that

eternal furnace Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I see

loud light Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I mean, iris does more damage than bote unless you have some crit-based mechanic like echoing blades

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for pure aoe

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I mean

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I think that’s questionable as well

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You’re still getting crit damage and crit rate

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Iris crushes in raw damage

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But I don’t think it’s as easy as “iris damage good bote damage bad”

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CT pumps and so does subt garrotes

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Iris is just not worth if you have bote3

hallow coyote Jul 28, 2020, 10:20 PM

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My Iris is rank 4 and really pretty, but I haven't felt like grinding out another 70K honor for BotE r 4

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Rank 4 meme beam looks great, truly a powerful argument for its use

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:20 PM

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If only pretty visuals did damage

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kekw

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Subtlety would be crushing

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

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AFTER AN 20HOURS GRIND STARTED FROM 4K HONOR

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I finally did it today

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blood of the enemy Rank .3

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😭

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thanksfriend

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

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:) congratz

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Yesterday from 9pm to 4pm and today from 11am to 12:30pm

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26k honor

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dayum i have no life

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so can someone explain to me why you'd pick crimson tempest over poison bomb? i feel like its the most torn between people, and is it really just personal preference? or is there a reason you would go one over the other?

umbral rapids Jul 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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gz !

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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you take CT if you have enough haste

umbral rapids Jul 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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It does more damage at some point

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That’s it...

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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that you can keep that other dot up

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:29 PM

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CT is more damage in m+

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And in single target it scales with haste and poison bomb doesn’t

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So there’s that

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:30 PM

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ive found its hard for me to keep it up, especially when you need to refresh garrote and rupture

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Needs more practice then

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:30 PM

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while trying to get envenoms in

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:30 PM

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It takes priority over envenom

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Shouldnt be difficult to keep up though

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:31 PM

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let me try it again...considering i tried it back a while ago so...its been a few iLVLs

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I mean, the question is exped/haste

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Not direct iLvL

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:32 PM

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😐

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not a fan

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Decent m+ ring

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Would need to purify obviously

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:34 PM

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hmm...im maintaining like 40k while keeping all bleeds up

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:34 PM

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MonkaGiga

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That’s pretty yikes

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:35 PM

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with 420 ilvl?

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yeah

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uh...

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:35 PM

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CT is for high haste levels

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If you’re sustaining 40k, you’re either playing very wrong

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Or you’re undergeared

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How much haste do you have?

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:36 PM

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28%

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Oh yeah

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Double that

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And you can maybe think about it

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:36 PM

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and thast what i dont get because im literally a 467

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shouldnt be 40

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k

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

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what corruptions are you wearing

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Or do you have a sim?

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That’s easiest

tropic charm Jul 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Off topic question, but how does sin rogue go from bottom tier dps to higher than havoc post the second nerf? Corruptions?

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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well i know i need more expedient, but one stack of expedient, 3 infinite stars lvl 1, and a random

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Kill times went down I would think

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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wdym bottom tier

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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But we’ve never been bottom tier

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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lvl 3 strike through

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look at boss dps not padding

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Oh so your corruptions are a disaster

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The IS3 should be doing a ton though on its own

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40k still sounds kinda low

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:39 PM

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its like a mil per boss in nyalotha

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at the least

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and yeah, cant figure out why

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:39 PM

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So then we go back to sim/logs

tropic charm Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Well not exact bottom tier but looking at Warcraftlogs for the first post nerf we were bottom 7

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I wish I had a crystal ball sadly but idk what you’re doing wrong

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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trust me ive been trying to figure it out too sooooo

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my sim was only like 47k so i kinda call bs

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cause when i was a 430 it said i should be doing 60k

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@tropic charm https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#metric=bossdps&dataset=90&region=1

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thats pre nerf boss dps

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Link the sim

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#metric=bossdps&dataset=90&region=2

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thats post nerf 1

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post nerf 2 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/24#metric=bossdps&dataset=90

tropic charm Jul 28, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Hmm. I was literally on the same page as you but had completely different results. Must’ve checked something off by accident and not realized it

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Maybe #outlaw ?

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Wrong channel

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kekw

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The links are 90 percentile mythic

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If you’re looking at some weird stuff that’ll shift obviously

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If you look at like heroic 20 percentile

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:43 PM

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gotta wait a sec...

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:43 PM

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It’s gonna be a mess

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@strange python could also send me the file itself

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I can go ahead and sim from there

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:44 PM

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i was just gonna wait on raid bots...

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:44 PM

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That works too

tropic charm Jul 28, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I see what I did. I was on the damage tab and not damage to bosses

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:46 PM

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common mistake

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also, dont comment about leeching poison, wanted to see if the healer would hate me less

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Leeching poison is fine

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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i found its not bad as long as you do mechanics and dont stand in stuff

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Great on fights that don’t one shot

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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id probably still run cheat death in raids tho

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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leeching is great for maut

grave trail Jul 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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nobody look at boss dmg get out of here wit that

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yeah leeching on Maut is kinda huge

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:48 PM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nFYHWGx1N33ifTKiEHu4i5

Raidbots

Quick Sim - Bakkbone - 53,571 DPS - Raidbots

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also neck traits are....eh...kinda lazy

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Quick sim notLikeThis

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But 53.5

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That’s pretty oof

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40k on a dummy doesn’t sound bad now

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:49 PM

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so yeah not sure where to go from here

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Your essences are a bit of a mess

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Lucid minor should be an auto-take

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VoP minor is awful for 5 minute fights

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:50 PM

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yeah...kinda got lazy, and i usually do but i switched it out this week for some reason

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Iris Major is not used single target, so that’s a dead major

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:51 PM

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i was using blood of the enemy

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Yeah you imported from armory so that’s kinda doomed

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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i just searched the name

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Getting sims from armory is always jank

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Cause you would need to log out with essences and stuff

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:54 PM

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guess its just corruptions and a ghost stealing dps...idk ill just have to figure it out some how

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Corruptions, essences, and I assume gear otherwise as well

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I’m on mobile so I can’t check

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:55 PM

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oh ok

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:55 PM

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40k on a dummy with 53k on sim sounds pretty reasonable though

wary kelp Jul 28, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I think azerite traits could be better for toxic blade build

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and maybe a spyglass trinket or something could help

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Yeah I have no idea what traits he’s using

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:55 PM

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lets see what my dps is now with BotE

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the traits on these peices are trash ill say that now, they dont line up nice at all

wary kelp Jul 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

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hes got 2 nothing personal, 1 EB, 1 double dose

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Well that’s not all bad

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:56 PM

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uh no?

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1 nothing personal 1 shrouded and 1 twist

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and yeah EB

wary kelp Jul 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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yeah mb

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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id take 2 tho

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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EB is a dead trait so that’s obviously rip

wary kelp Jul 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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uve got 1 double dose

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I think u want to stack those as toxic

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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yeah thats kinda a must

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Double dose is good, twist is good

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Np is good

solar latch Jul 28, 2020, 10:57 PM

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once im at 50% haste i can go CT right

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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You can go CT once it sims higher

solar latch Jul 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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ah ok

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Usually will need more than 50 though

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:58 PM

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i dont have any other double dosses on my gear so

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i would have another if i could

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looks fine to me

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Stat weights

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Oh man

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 10:59 PM

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😭

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Are you sure CT sims higher for you?

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 11:00 PM

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lets find out

harsh anchor Jul 28, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Am I just dumb - why is it every time with the pack before rexxar in a vision, I get fukt and proc my cheat death

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:02 PM

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It’s the hardest pack in that vision

loud light Jul 28, 2020, 11:02 PM

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big guy hits really hard

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:02 PM

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It’s not unusual

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You just hit em with dots and kite like hell

harsh anchor Jul 28, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Aight just making sure I'm not that one guy who cant pull it off seamlessly

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 11:03 PM

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kill the swarm leader

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my burst without crimson tempest is about 60k then drops to steady 43k

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Yeah

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That seems pretty normal

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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poison bomb was better

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:C

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well if it says that

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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That’s what I thought xD

umbral rapids Jul 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Ya i thought so too

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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1400more dmg

median igloo Jul 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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What should Symbiotic Presence uptime be set to on average?

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Symfony woke up hi bb

umbral rapids Jul 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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The default is reasonable

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?

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I’m going to sleep

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Depends on your raid

umbral rapids Jul 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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kek

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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My dumbass raid has like a 50% uptime

median igloo Jul 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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maybe conflict major is the safer bet then

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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But you can get 90-100% pretty comfortably if your tanks are running crucible

median igloo Jul 28, 2020, 11:07 PM

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er minor*

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k, ill check with them then, thanks

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:07 PM

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You can just look at your logs

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And check for uptime there

quaint vortex Jul 28, 2020, 11:18 PM

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kek we recently had a raid where one of our tanks forgot to use crucible for the entire night

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we had something like 8% FV uptime for the entire night

rigid eagle Jul 28, 2020, 11:31 PM

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@harsh anchor that pack before rex is dumb as hell

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but try to position so that the first headbutt pushes you back down the ramp

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instead of into the burning vision whatever bullshit area, or more mobs

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basically use the knockback to kite lol

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I position the head tuts into the fence

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Cause idc kekw

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 11:38 PM

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well

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first run

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went suprisingly well

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with Bl i had 150k dps and thats without food buffs and trinkets

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so i believe in raids i could reach higher?

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AND DOOOOOOOOOD

harsh anchor Jul 28, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Ye ye, I've been headbutted outside of the playable area and wiped a multitude of times ... I've learned to not face it that way xd

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 11:40 PM

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i got the mechagon ring / from behind ...

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Nice nice

strange python Jul 28, 2020, 11:41 PM

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now give me this fucking 128 Haste passiv ring thanksfriend

tropic sand Jul 28, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Guys, how is gushing wounds on pve? I was think about make my pvp set and use it on pve while I don't have a better one for it

balmy condor Jul 28, 2020, 11:49 PM

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It’s a decent filler

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But it’s not enough corruption

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And there’s just better options

quaint vortex Jul 28, 2020, 11:54 PM

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the gap between me running full GW vs full Expedient on my gear right now is about 9k, and that's with an azerite setup that isn't optimized for exsang build

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so it is a pretty sizable difference

fleet whale Jul 29, 2020, 12:14 AM

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GW however is boss in pvp, but assuming if PvE is your main focus just go expedient

wintry terrace Jul 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Are we using unbridles as our pre-pot of choice for the exsang build?

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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no crit pots on pure ST

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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unbridled for aoe only

wintry terrace Jul 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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alright, awesome. Thanks

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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won't make much a difference though

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couple hundred dps on sims

void sinew Jul 29, 2020, 12:47 AM

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actually kinda neat smokey used unbridled i think on his #1 maut

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due to already having crit from trink i think

fleet whale Jul 29, 2020, 12:50 AM

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I don't think it's that big of a deal what potion you use. Unbridled's perk is that it's cheaper and a bit more versatile

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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yeah

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it really doesn't make any difference

void sinew Jul 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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i mean resolve only gives crit

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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they sim within margin of error for me

void sinew Jul 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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if you run azahra font of power before fight, and have a bunch of crit

fleet whale Jul 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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I honestly just use unbridled cause it's cheaper and i can stock them up in bulk

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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font gives agi

void sinew Jul 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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oh

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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cheaper lmao

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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hmm

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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whats the difference, 10g per pot

fleet whale Jul 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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well, maybe now it's not as big as a deal

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but 8.3 start zin'anthid on my server was very expensive

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also does unbridled scale with haste, like does it proc more with more haste?

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Well, focussed resolve goes for like 400g on my realm and there were like 35 on Sale last wednesday

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 12:53 AM

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we didnt use resolve start of 8.3

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:54 AM

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But it's fine, I just bother a mate that has alchemy

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:54 AM

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unbridled has unhasted rppm

shy dust Jul 29, 2020, 12:55 AM

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pretty sure its hasted

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:55 AM

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is it? I didn't think it was

shy dust Jul 29, 2020, 12:56 AM

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balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:56 AM

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oh sick

fleet whale Jul 29, 2020, 12:56 AM

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yeah that's why it's so good for havoc

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:56 AM

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whispyr talks out of his ass again

fleet whale Jul 29, 2020, 12:56 AM

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and for us it's also good with all the haste we have

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 12:57 AM

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well its just always been good

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 12:57 AM

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yeah

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 12:57 AM

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except at start when resolve was broken before it was gutted

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now because of scaling and exsang burst its better again

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or well I dont really remember if we used agi pots in other tiers

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pepeclown

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I think we did in uldir

fleet whale Jul 29, 2020, 1:08 AM

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in uldir and BoD agi pots were the only option i thought

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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oh right theyre made from 8.2 herb so they didnt exist before derp

clever stream Jul 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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is the shards set good from raden or is it better to use the charged and a coral for instance

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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coral

honest vessel Jul 29, 2020, 1:28 AM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6vd3k9s2wAbXNai9c22aAA im simming like 7k lower than usual, but for the life of me i cant figure out why

Raidbots

Quick Sim - Kiraslice - 99,013 DPS - Raidbots

drifting cloud Jul 29, 2020, 1:30 AM

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23 corr

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no hod

honest vessel Jul 29, 2020, 1:30 AM

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OMFG

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thank you

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im super dumb

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i knew it was something like that

summer cedar Jul 29, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Is there any reason to FoK on 2 targets or is it always 3+

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 1:41 AM

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fok on 2 if you have EB

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 1:44 AM

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i feel like im weak as rogue im prob doing something wrong

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 1:45 AM

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usually gonna go with undergeared for that

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 2:05 AM

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I was surprised by just how much proper corruptions aided my performance

void sinew Jul 29, 2020, 2:13 AM

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would CLF be good for wrath if we go through 2 smoke and mirrros?

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 2:15 AM

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you get 2 casts on that

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so I'd say its okay

mystic osprey Jul 29, 2020, 2:28 AM

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https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4KrWNhdbHVJ9pgL2#fight=22&type=damage-done&source=80 - A rather crummy Xanesh kill...my opener spikes a little over 250k...but looking at logs I see most spiking at 450k...I'm doing the same opener - Like what gives?

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I'm sure they may have a bit more haste...but I'm 79% unbuffed.

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prepot resolve...

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 2:29 AM

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you didn't get OP or vita into exsang

mystic osprey Jul 29, 2020, 2:30 AM

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So Im unlucky?

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😄

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 2:30 AM

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yeah pretty much tbh

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450k spikes are kinda brutal

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with 0 procs

mystic osprey Jul 29, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Kind of frustrating. haha.

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 2:32 AM

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usually need a combination of clock/clf/gale and procs to push 450-500k

mystic osprey Jul 29, 2020, 2:32 AM

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may have to try this gale out

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but most of the 450k were plum. *shrug

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 2:33 AM

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yeah I mean plume and gale are similar

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my feelycraft says gale is a little burstier if you're looking for the peaks

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but there's nothing gale can do that plume can't

mystic osprey Jul 29, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Just picking apart my soso parses

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lol

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 2:37 AM

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im 435-7

worldly condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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When you guys typically using addons on nzoth being in the first psychus group?

wary kelp Jul 29, 2020, 3:20 AM

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any reason why gale sims higher for 2min/4minute fights than plum despite alot of people saying its better on dmg

harsh sphinx Jul 29, 2020, 3:22 AM

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just don't leave the circle. and it's better

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:27 AM

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gale is better

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just need to stand still

random raft Jul 29, 2020, 3:35 AM

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So I have not been lucky with plumage but I got the Drest’agath trinket tonight on heroic clear. Should I macro it onto something for easy of use or bind it separately. Still playing a double dose focused build at 466.

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:36 AM

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drest trinket is pretty doo-doo in pve

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I wouldn't suggest using it unless its really the only thing you have

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if it actually sims higher, you would use it on cooldown

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it's got a really awkward timing on it

arctic walrus Jul 29, 2020, 3:37 AM

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just inbetween plumages/cds basically

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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yeah

random raft Jul 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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It aims higher than my zandalar bijou trinket that procs haste and is 445 😕

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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oh man

random raft Jul 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Sims*

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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yeah that's definitely a trinket lmao

random raft Jul 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I’ve had baddddd luck in KR

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I haven't seen it in about a year or so

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but it definitely exists

kind bone Jul 29, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Yo guys, need your opinion, tomorrow I´ll have 20k residuum; Just buy Gorak Mantle? or roll trying to get ClockWork and Blightborne aswell?

harsh sphinx Jul 29, 2020, 3:50 AM

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monkahmm

kind bone Jul 29, 2020, 3:50 AM

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This week we start M Carapace btw

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 3:50 AM

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tbh just buy goraks

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it'll be fine

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Yeah Gorak won’t treat you wrong

kind bone Jul 29, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Okey guys, thank you

lapis falcon Jul 29, 2020, 4:20 AM

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When refreshing rupture and on 4 combo points, should I 4 point rupture or overcap combo points to 5 point rupture?

arctic walrus Jul 29, 2020, 4:21 AM

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4 is fine for both finishers

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 4:24 AM

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vel stealing the easy questions

quaint vortex Jul 29, 2020, 6:04 AM

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does anyone have any general recommendations about CD usage on M Cara? the timings feel really clunky for us

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I feel like I should probably be running Blood major with VOP minor to help line things up a bit better

balmy condor Jul 29, 2020, 6:10 AM

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That’s probably not worth

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The vanish garrotes are big

fallow otter Jul 29, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Depends on if you are struggling for dmg as a group for p2

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We don't need to vend here anymore for our runs but on prog we were running vop minor for this

shrewd night Jul 29, 2020, 6:55 AM

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For prog vanishing a clump of growths in p2 was worth, now they die so quick for us Im better off holding it p3 peepoShrug

coarse tusk Jul 29, 2020, 7:01 AM

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It really depends on the kill timings

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If saving vanish at the start of p3 nets you another vanish later in p3 its probably worth. If it doesnt you might as well use it on the growths and later in p3.

quaint vortex Jul 29, 2020, 7:48 AM

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we aren't really struggling with damage at all right now

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I'm struggling to even find a good timing for second Vendetta right now because I'm not really getting any value out of it in p1

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 7:51 AM

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u dont use 2nd vendetta p1

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either use it p2 on one of back synapses or just delay it for p3

tropic ocean Jul 29, 2020, 7:53 AM

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use 2nd vendetta on boss p1

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and ignore dmg stop

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not losing cd usage omegalul

quaint vortex Jul 29, 2020, 7:55 AM

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do i basically just need to accept that I'll likely be sitting on the cd for 2 minutes with no good window to use it

tropic ocean Jul 29, 2020, 7:55 AM

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y

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unless ur dps is super bad no point to use it on growth

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 7:55 AM

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Jeez that hurts

quaint vortex Jul 29, 2020, 7:55 AM

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i might get half duration out of it so doesn't feel good

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and probably isn't the play

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Probably not

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That sounds painful

quaint vortex Jul 29, 2020, 7:58 AM

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i feel a bit better about it now with that in mind at least - it just largely felt like I was doing something wrong by needing to do that

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 7:58 AM

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You can always check logs

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Find something that looks like your raid comp etc

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To look at CD timers

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 8:02 AM

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The real play is to pop sprint a cloak and run over to the 3 growths at the back and triple garotte them. Gives you time to blast them before everyone else gets there

sick oyster Jul 29, 2020, 8:06 AM

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rogue unrelated question but you guys maybe can help me out on this one, i cant get my advanced interface options to save my settings (showing grand delusion nameplate) resets everytime i restart the game even if i toggle force options on startup. any ideas?

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 8:07 AM

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u dont need addon for that

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just in nameplates in interface tick enemy guardians i think it was

sick oyster Jul 29, 2020, 8:15 AM

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thats the option they removed from basic ui options so time ago

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so you need to set it up with a cvar commnad

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 8:21 AM

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nah it sstill there

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https://i.imgur.com/AuLVNih.png @sick oyster its one of this forgot which one

Imgur

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the smaller boxes

sick oyster Jul 29, 2020, 8:40 AM

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thats what it used to look like way back then (not sure when it got removed) https://gyazo.com/25b8fbeb7b06af99d21a7dcf17429433

Gyazo

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you cant toggle guardian nameplates via basic ui anymore

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i have the small boxes u linked checked

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 8:50 AM

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mhm ur options look different than mne

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but your enemy units isnt checked

minor terrace Jul 29, 2020, 8:50 AM

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Good morning everyone.Where can i see assa rogue bis gear list

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 8:50 AM

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pretty sure u need to check that for rest of it to be valid

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Well yeah...

sick oyster Jul 29, 2020, 8:51 AM

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this isnt the live interface this is what it used to look like when there was a seperate option to toggle guardian nameplates

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 8:52 AM

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yea but i linked u what you need to enable

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its either minions or minor

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and u will have things from beyond shown

last ingot Jul 29, 2020, 9:00 AM

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how much my corruption shoulde be maximum for mythic prog 39 or 59?

warm olive Jul 29, 2020, 9:02 AM

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there is no real answer for that. its what you and your group can handle. 39 is considered safe without any problems. 59 is playable, but it can happen that some unlucky events kill you and wipe your raid.

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today i got 475 overclocking bit band, it would replace 465 one. sims show me its only a 320 DPS upgrade, does that sound about right? Im asking because i dont have exp3 ready and would probably lose an equivalent of exp1 if i switch ... if the numbers are correct i would rather wait for next exp3.

random bramble Jul 29, 2020, 9:13 AM

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7 gushing and 2 vers? or just 9 gushing? for pvp

sick oyster Jul 29, 2020, 9:14 AM

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9 gush + vers gems works for most

random bramble Jul 29, 2020, 9:15 AM

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I plan to get all vers gems socketed on my gear

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I'm about 4k echoes shy of 9 gushing

warm olive Jul 29, 2020, 9:16 AM

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i would probably use less than 9 gush if you have ilvl below 465

random bramble Jul 29, 2020, 9:16 AM

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im at 474

warm olive Jul 29, 2020, 9:16 AM

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not average, i mean individual item

random bramble Jul 29, 2020, 9:16 AM

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although I still have 3 465 pieces

warm olive Jul 29, 2020, 9:16 AM

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i wouldnt put GW on 455/460 for example

random bramble Jul 29, 2020, 9:16 AM

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ye

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everything I have is 465 or higher

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getting robbed on my weekly mythic cache

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475 kul tiran cannon today :T

urban walrus Jul 29, 2020, 9:19 AM

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which weapon enchants should i use for m+

random bramble Jul 29, 2020, 9:22 AM

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force mult/quick nav/vers nav

wintry harbor Jul 29, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Does it matter which hand i have which enchant in? I read in a guide that i should have force mult in main hand and deadly nav in offhand but does it matter if it's the other way around?

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 9:40 AM

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probably not force multi

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and no it doesnt matter which hand has which enchant

wintry harbor Jul 29, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Yea i did a simulation with raidbots with the "Dungeon Slice (BETA)" and it seems like agi stat weight is kinda low, so i'll probably go deadly nav/vers nav

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 9:49 AM

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You can just sim top Gear and select all the enchants and see which ones are better and by how much

wintry harbor Jul 29, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Thanks did that and it also said that i should go deadly/versatile

median badge Jul 29, 2020, 10:38 AM

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When keeping up Rupture in M+ how many combo points do you use on each target before switching to single target?

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I do well at keeping it up but I feel like I’m wasting cp

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 10:50 AM

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what are the best dungeons to hit for daggers?

fallow otter Jul 29, 2020, 11:01 AM

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tol

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mechagon

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atal

dull crypt Jul 29, 2020, 11:10 AM

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carapace hc is your safest bet rng wise

cosmic jetty Jul 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Hi ,pretty new at this - i dont know if anyone can give me some advice for what i should be aiming for, im using assas spec for M+ right now because i don't have any good weps for outlaw

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trying to keep garrote min on those pulls in M+ but i find it hard to FoK + garrote + rupture each target ,and find im capping out energy too much

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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you dont garrote every target

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garrote does not really great spread dmg outside of subterfuge/ss

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:24 AM

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how much of a gain would the troll racial be for the haste/bleed assas build

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

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thnks @fallow otter and @dull crypt

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

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not enough too make a difference for 99,99999% of all players

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:25 AM

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however.. you would be a cool rastafarian with a bad back so what's not to like?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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haha true, well im currently a zandalar anyway

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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assuming you don't choose one of these new fangled zandalari who discovered chriporacters

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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there are only 2 kinds of people that play troll

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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just not sure if theres anything i can do to progress my character atm

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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people that really like the dudebro trolls

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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once you go troll you never reroll

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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and wannabe minmax tryhards

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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zandalari are not REAL troll imho

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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that still parse green kekw

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:26 AM

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that's like saying highmountain tauren are not tauren

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what

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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well

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they are not tauren

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they are highmountain tauren

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duh

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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bruh

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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my main issue is the fact that they stand up straaaight.. real trolls ALL have a bad back.. it's waht drives their anger and ability to fight

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im joking btw

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i feel i have to state that.. which makes me sad

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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bad back gives them that haste buff haha

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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but ye like

cosmic jetty Jul 29, 2020, 11:27 AM

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am i supposed to just envenom in M+ for the large mobs?

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

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yeah if you had a bad back you'd just want to get shit done quickly.. hence haste

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

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get me out of here i need to sit down my backs killing me

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

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the difference bettwen the absolute "worst" and absolute "best"race are like 1k SIM dps max

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we talk about a 100%uptime patchwork sim with perfect spell usage

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like

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

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the difference bettwen the absolute "worst" and absolute "best"race are like 1k SIM dps max
@royal lantern fair enough

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

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racials dont matter for dps, play what you want

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

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(im an ally but still just askin) does troll passive scale with expedient or is it just 10%?

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:28 AM

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shh dont tell him.. spy!

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(ps i have no clue)

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Nah i enjoy having 2 vanish abilities, even tho one is partly broken in raids and takes dmg just from traits

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So hehe

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:30 AM

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haha 🙂

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:30 AM

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No passive mon

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Isn't nightelf the best race for rogue atm?

royal lantern Jul 29, 2020, 11:30 AM

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nightelf is borderline broken for m+

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but thats for all races tbh

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meld for skips is insane

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and meld too cheese mechanics

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Meld is strong overall

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:31 AM

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You like cheese ok

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Every class

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Especially before 8.3 when you could death skip

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:32 AM

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ive just leveled a second rogue on ali just for meld

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:32 AM

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you don't have 4 rogues prepared for SL?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:32 AM

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well

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that was my plan

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 11:32 AM

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One day i will get Gorak Tul's... that day is not today....

I wish 3 months ago id just saved up :p but i thought i wouldnt be still raiding by then

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wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:32 AM

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but then i remembered leveling makes me wanna stab my eyes out

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Imagine getting Goraks on your second gamble kekw

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:33 AM

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dam someone else who gets fucked on the reg by the azerite vendor

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:33 AM

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I just for a rare moment where I made lock in 2 days

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:33 AM

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i returned to rogue and bought about 17 azerite chests before getting one with SS on it (i mainly m+)

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Usually i just leave my wannabe alts on Draenor

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:34 AM

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then.. today .. i bought my first 480 item.. a chest.. and it came with SS... so i feel like i won the lottery

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:34 AM

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very nice

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 11:34 AM

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😂 luckily its not the end of the world i have other options for shoulders, but goaks would be a nice little upgrade

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:35 AM

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yeah ive got the one with clockwork heart

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:36 AM

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That clockwork is good

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 11:36 AM

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same i use clockwork heart for a lot of fights and ilgy shoulders for fights where i dont like clockwork, like nzoth

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:36 AM

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seeing as we have a fun group in here right now - my BRAIN tells me i should focus on a tank class (zero wait time to do m+ and you are master of your own destiny to some extent) or BM hunter (so relaxing and easy) or resto druid (tauren.. nuff sad).. but my heart says play rogue. I can not explain this.. why do i wanna play rogue so bad?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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the real question is why dont you wanna play rogue

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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also when i say rogue - i specically mean dagger rouge not outlaw.. i have no interest in that

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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lmao actually DEd mecha shoulders

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Stay rogue my friend

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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that are arguably better than goraks rn PepeLaugh

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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@wary relic i like that reply a lot 🙂

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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lmao actually DEd mecha shoulders
@shut garnet which ones?

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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extravagant

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:37 AM

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oh lol yeah the ones i have

patent topaz Jul 29, 2020, 11:38 AM

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double clockwork probably better on most low duration fights now

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:38 AM

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yea

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:38 AM

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question, for the bleed build what is the ideal crit percentage

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im gemmed full haste rn but sat at 32% crit

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:38 AM

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there are no ideal %s

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just whatever sims highest

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:38 AM

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fairs

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

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yeah clockwork sims really well on 3min for me, about 500dps ahead of goraks

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Mate i tried to both heal and tank, but nothing fits me more than rogue. Also I know what being dps is like, i dont want to just try to act like i know how to tank/heal if i dont

patent topaz Jul 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

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I only have clockwork chest, not shoulders

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

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i think both the chest and shoulder for me simmed 1.5k dps ahead on 3min st

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

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plus having 3 dps specs is great for going into a new exp

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

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@verbal sparrow healing is easy peasy

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:39 AM

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theyre pretty yuge

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 11:40 AM

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i mean they cant get me decent logs, but they sim well xD

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:40 AM

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@tame wren but stickign with dps. bm hunter is so much easier than rogue

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:40 AM

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well the logs part is more down to you than to gear really ;P

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 11:40 AM

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im just blaming kill times and getting smacked by rng 😛

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:40 AM

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im no expert - i just did a few dungeons with it.. but i was able to focus on my own position and avoid poo on the ground while maintaining full dps.. i wonder if it gets boring

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:40 AM

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wdym it's not rng ta procs ? @shut garnet

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PepeLaugh

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:40 AM

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FeelsWeirdManS

hallow kraken Jul 29, 2020, 11:41 AM

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How is A$$ looking in SL?

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:41 AM

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kekw

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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shitt bh

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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He doesn't know

night vale Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Like i have no idea how i can get an orange / pink parse on ra-den.... i try every week and nothing :(

its super frustrating, ive decided im just not good enough now

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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im probs rolling sub

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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wdym we don't have legendaries or conduits lol

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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i guess, if theres some cool stuff for assas i may consider it

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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@wary relic is sub looking good for m+ in sl?

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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like, you actually can't say if it's good or not

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:42 AM

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but tbh im only on assas this expansion because its the only viable raiding spec

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i mean the new aoe finisher for sub looks good

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:43 AM

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interesting

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:44 AM

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reckon itll be good, and it has a higher target cap than outlaws blade flurry, but early on outlaw might be better depends on how big pulls people can do early on in the expansion

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:44 AM

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i wont play outlaw

hallow kraken Jul 29, 2020, 11:44 AM

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Isnt outlaw even more dulled down in SL?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:44 AM

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how so?

hallow kraken Jul 29, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Wasnt BlessRNG aka Roll the bones set to a cd instead of the eternal rerolling?

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:45 AM

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i didn't like combat rogues back in the day either - i want to use daggers

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:45 AM

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yeah it's CD reduced by restless blades

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:45 AM

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also im not a pirate..

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:45 AM

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^

wet ruin Jul 29, 2020, 11:45 AM

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@shut garnet do you have the sims for clockwork

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:46 AM

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but like, fairly short, so it should be up every 3 finishers or so

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:46 AM

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yeah should be up pretty quick

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even quicker if you pop adren

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maybe theyll make a legendary to remove the rng aha

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:46 AM

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why?

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i can get em

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:46 AM

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well that won't change how many finishers you need to reset the CD

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AR or not

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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for m+ what essences should i be using? wowhead says iris major with dreams, breath and purification minor but this is not what the top people on raider.io use.. what should i use?

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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bote

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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bote lucid vop breath

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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bote major?

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kk

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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bote and condensed major depnds on the fight

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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in m+?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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blood of the enemy

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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yeah m+

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:47 AM

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^

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:48 AM

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well not clf...

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:48 AM

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kk bote major, lucid vop and breaath minors.. will buy those

wet ruin Jul 29, 2020, 11:48 AM

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@shut garnet I just don't believe the chest is simming better, wanted to see it

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:49 AM

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i thought bote, with conflict, dreams and breath based on raider.io

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:49 AM

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if you have enough haste you dont need lucid right C&S will be better right>

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:49 AM

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i have very low haste.. let me check

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40% crit, 13% haste, 42% mastery and 4% vers

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:49 AM

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as assas?

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you really need haste

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im on 82% base now i think

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:50 AM

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for m+??

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:50 AM

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crit is fine with EB build

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:51 AM

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what is eb build? im 2,2,1,2,1,2,1

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oh that is eb build i guess

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:51 AM

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2212221

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:52 AM

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my gear choices are very limted right now so im just simming as much as possible

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:52 AM

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assuming u got 3eb as well with those stats

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:52 AM

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no i only got one eb

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i got 3 ss

shut garnet Jul 29, 2020, 11:52 AM

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o shit ok i take it back the chest rly doesnt outsim cara on 3mins

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monkaOMEGA

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:52 AM

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and one ttk

young dust Jul 29, 2020, 11:53 AM

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hey guys, noticed on warcraft logs (specially Tol Dagor) lots of people running master poisoner instead of EP. Why is that? better aoe damage?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:54 AM

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are they also running leach poison as well?

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 11:56 AM

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maybe for the slow on the beach?

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:56 AM

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guys based on above comments and the fact that i only have one eb but 3 ss's.. should i be finding gear with more haste and using a different build?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:57 AM

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i mean its the better build ngl

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like it works in raiding and m+

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 11:57 AM

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which one? 2212221?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 11:58 AM

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max expedient 3 build

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with 3 ss

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:01 PM

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guess all the top sin rogues are noobs then

verbal sparrow Jul 29, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Boys on nzoth, should i switch to VoP?

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 12:03 PM

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never considered it tbh

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:03 PM

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i guess this 5.2k dude can learn a thing or two. should play haste tbh

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keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:04 PM

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is that quietstep?

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:04 PM

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yeah

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:04 PM

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i was just looking at him https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/azralon/Quietstep

World of Warcraft

Quietstep - Character - WoW

Quietstep (Azralon) - 120 Blood Elf Assassination Rogue, 478 ilvl

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only has 8% haste.

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:05 PM

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raid build is fine in KR/WS but i don't know why you'd run that in another dungeon GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

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i don't do sin m+ but it sounds odd to me

wary relic Jul 29, 2020, 12:05 PM

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yeah thats fair

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tbf i dont play assas much in m+

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:05 PM

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he's using bote main and then conflict, dreams and breath minors. i was going to copy that.. but should i switch conflict out with vop minor?

wet ruin Jul 29, 2020, 12:06 PM

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raid build is fine everywhere

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 12:06 PM

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I mean haste build is perfectly viable in any key

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it also pumps in JY cuz your zap goes pew pew more

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:06 PM

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well yeah JY is an outlier for everything

wet ruin Jul 29, 2020, 12:07 PM

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most of those 'must have EB' players never even tried haste

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so I don't know what it is based on

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:07 PM

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haste build is fine but if someone asks what to pick i wouldn't just blindly say to go raid build in m+

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:07 PM

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@wet ruin with haste what are the azerite traits you need (for m+ focus).. 3 x ss i assume.. what else?

wet ruin Jul 29, 2020, 12:07 PM

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just run what you run in raids

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:08 PM

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i dont run raids yet

wet ruin Jul 29, 2020, 12:08 PM

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SS, HoD, BBI

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:08 PM

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and also what build is this? im 2212221

cobalt pelican Jul 29, 2020, 12:08 PM

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if you don't raid you likely don't have any functional gear to play expedient

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:09 PM

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ok.

wet ruin Jul 29, 2020, 12:09 PM

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also that might be true yea

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:09 PM

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im raiding hc tonight nopefully 🙂

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ok i used google but not sure what hod and bbi are

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:10 PM

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heart of darkness

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blightborne infusion

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:10 PM

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ahhh thx

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:10 PM

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heart of darkness trait that drops from raid

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:10 PM

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kk dont have bbi on anything 😦

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:10 PM

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bbi from gorak tul mantle only

keen tree Jul 29, 2020, 12:11 PM

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oh ok

modest zodiac Jul 29, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Did they fix the bug where if you'd cast garrotte on a third target without subterfuge then the previous garrottes that benefit from sub no longer benefit?

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 12:12 PM

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that got fixed like

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2 years ago

umbral rapids Jul 29, 2020, 12:17 PM

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wait that was a thing ?

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kek

sullen pagoda Jul 29, 2020, 12:18 PM

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yeah at start of Bfa if u did a 4th garrote after subterfuge none of them were buffed

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live beta testing

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:28 PM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fx4bAsUP2vtLPfokHx56Cw

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Gear Compare - Guffin - 130,190 DPS - Raidbots

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please let today be the day where i get shard

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 12:28 PM

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no

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:29 PM

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bonus roll is guaranteed loot now tho, and my rogue mate doesnt need another one

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so chances are ok

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 12:30 PM

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You only get loot if you join the Pepega Opener Club

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:31 PM

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mfd kidney poisoned knife rupture exsang garrote crimson tempest and then poisoned knife spam ye?

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Still theorycrafting new openers

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But that one is a good start

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without the poisoned knife spam obviously

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that would be troll

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:33 PM

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k, gonna give it a (kidney) shot this evening

normal olive Jul 29, 2020, 12:33 PM

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peepoguns

strange python Jul 29, 2020, 12:54 PM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vUvEwMEd3Uu1UsvFnNvctg

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Top Gear - Cheeseballz - 95,954 DPS - Raidbots

sand whale Jul 29, 2020, 12:55 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/DDLvhj5.png I finally got them bois celebration time

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