assassination

[cobalt gyro]

"well it builds CP and you casted it at 5, so you wasted it"

[strange python]

Oh okay

gotcha

Thank you! 😄

[arctic walrus]

sorry just noticed it but

that's extra

[strange python]

So like when to use CLF

Ah k

[median hedge]

3x EB, 1x SS, 2x TTK (2x OP, 1x HMC) fine for m+?

only other option i have is 2x EB, 2x SS, 1x TTK, 1x SOB (and SOB is a meme)

[median hedge]

bought a bunch of 430 tokens because respeccing my mythic stuff was getting too expensive

[crisp hollow]

is there any way to sim to see how big a dps increase my 2nd minor trait will be

[arctic walrus]

In your simc string find this

neck=,id=158075,bonus_id=4932/4933/6316/1570,context=11,azerite_level=50

and change the azerite level

in top gear you can pick a 2nd minor then

[crisp hollow]

awesome thank you

[modest tendon]

how do you rate undulating tides in m+? do you think it could be used on one shot bosses like in FH? it gives a small amount of single target as well

[bleak spoke]

I don’t think it stops oneshots

I guess after you cheat you’ll have the shield tho

But you still need to be topped

[modest tendon]

are there any specific builds people take into FH to deal with the bosses? Or is it just a matter of nailing your defensives?

[astral snow]

I don't really like UT in M+

Not enough uptime in most weeks

Imo.

[rigid mango]

UT is always bad p much

[strange python]

What so hard about the bosses in FH defensive wise?

oO

[simple meteor]

first boss and euphora on tyranical 17+ prolly one shots

[drifting cloud]

first boss doesnt on 17 atleast

but yeah you need to go super defensive and then swap out after you kill 1st boss

[simple meteor]

stamina flask helps alot

[modest tendon]

That’s an idea, yeah I’m having survivability issues in tyrannical 18s

[small silo]

Hey guys, is it possible if I get Briny Bubble on ashvane - to just stay on boss (stacked on other melee likely) and cloak before it "procs"? or will I just put everyone into bubbles that way?

[frosty talon]

You put everyone in bubble

Move to the others with the debuff and just cos

[modest tendon]

are the physical damage benthic wrists any good or should i wait for the frost damage ones?

[frosty talon]

The two bis bracers are 1) frost dmg 2) puffer

With Socket ofc

[modest tendon]

ye thx

[frosty talon]

Good luck

[small silo]

@frosty talon thanks 🙂

[steady grotto]

Is azshara trinket any good in m+?? Or does it make things too clunky

[steep obsidian]

i see dudes using it in the MDI and charging it up as a tank rounds up a big pull

so i guess its good for that

[rigid mango]

It's clunky for sure

and it's also good

You just need to learn to optimise usage, end of packs, healers drinking

etc etc

[brave gyro]

quick question: which belt is better? The 2% to abberations or the physical dmg one

[rigid mango]

Depends what you're fighting

[brave gyro]

i have the physical one with a socket. i was wondering if i should still get tokens for the other one

[steep obsidian]

you can sim them

[rigid mango]

If you want the belt for the two abberation bosses

[steep obsidian]

and put on abberation for the abberation bosses

^

[rigid mango]

Yes.

If not, no

[brave gyro]

hmm, okay, cheers

[hushed arrow]

Guys what amount of AP requires 63-64 and 64-65? Google doesn't seem up to date. 🤔

Wrong channel oopsies.

[teal hatch]

did blizzard drastically reduce the chance of poen benthic hands with a socket ? everyone got them early and here i am wasting 1300 manapearls so far with no luck .s

[cobalt pelican]

n o

[dark crag]

For me they would be a 400 dps upgrade, got bracers and dmg proc belt to 425. Maybe i try hands before upgrading boots to 425

[hushed arrow]

1.3k? What the actual fuck

[teal hatch]

yeah its fucking insane

[steep obsidian]

i dont think ive even farmed that many pearls on my main

[teal hatch]

I've been farming on 3 chars

everyday

[hushed arrow]

Does the benthic proc increase with its ilvl? I wonder by how much from 420 to 425 per say

[steep obsidian]

the effect increases on all of them except the boots

and abberr belt

[dark crag]

The bracers show how much the dmg upgrade, belt is hidden

[vagrant tapir]

Anyone have a good coral weak aura?

[cosmic prism]

is it normal for a 430 font to sim lower than cyclotronic blast?

[scarlet sequoia]

no

[cobalt pelican]

n

[arctic walrus]

what's your 2nd trinket

[cosmic prism]

coral

[cobalt pelican]

you're either simming wrong or have a 700ilvl yellow card or something weird

[arctic walrus]

can you link

@vagrant tapir https://wago.io/h3wPZQb9T

[scarlet sequoia]

[arctic walrus]

[tropic ocean]

@scarlet sequoia winrate dropping

[scarlet sequoia]

its fine, i needed these for rbg

[rigid mango]

@arctic walrus swap pfp.

[cosmic prism]

heres the font log @arctic walrus https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c9N4CU3byHVtwQiD7ETwxn

[arctic walrus]

yeah you're replacing coral in that sim

[rigid mango]

Are u simming it in the first slot?

Yeah.

[arctic walrus]

there's a dropdown box, click trinket 2

I'm feeling it zine

[cosmic prism]

friend did sim hes a tard

[arctic walrus]

Hol' up

Is that vision minor I see

⭕

[cosmic prism]

ye it was pvp sim too

big oof sim re simming now

[rigid mango]

font in pvp

[cosmic prism]

no i had vision on from pvp

its a 902 dps increase

guess i just have to get lucky now

[tropic ocean]

sim pvp

🤔

[dark crag]

Can you please just stand there while i pve you down?

[strange python]

THat's what I do in Arenas

I make my healer carry me

do you ever take hidden blades over poison bomb?

[rigid mango]

Nope

[arctic walrus]

no

[strange python]

in m+ specifically

oki

[rigid mango]

Yeah, still no

[arctic walrus]

no specifically

[cobalt pelican]

blaming your friend..

that's weak

[robust arch]

i mean he's not wrong i did fuck up his sim

[cobalt pelican]

i miss the weeks where you could actually play font in 2s and channel it in stealth

that was fun

[strange python]

Am I missing something? Why does it matter what trinket slot Coral is in?

[arctic walrus]

you talkin about that sim?

[strange python]

Yeah

Zine said something aobut it being in 1st slot

[arctic walrus]

He's simming font in place of coral. When he wanted to sim font in place of cyclo

[strange python]

Ohhh ok

[cobalt pelican]

the sim looks fine to me

it's just vision the fucks it all up

the apl has no idea what's going on

[strange python]

I more found the combo of CLF/Vision odd.

[cobalt pelican]

like it'll vendetta without font

and then not use font again since it's tied to vendetta

[strange python]

Lucid always sims higher for me

[cobalt pelican]

so it'll like font -> font at like 3:30

[strange python]

o.O

[cobalt pelican]

which is kinda why nobody plays vision it's just ass

[strange python]

granted I just can't seem to get a font so I'm using coral/inkpod.

[cobalt pelican]

maybe vision would be lit if there was a good 1:30cd trinket or something

[arctic walrus]

What was the thing with vision where the major has a higher proc rate the higher neck you are?

Is that a thing

[cobalt pelican]

i know the cdr% on vend scale with neck lvl

not sure on the major

[arctic walrus]

oh is that what it was?

I just know something about it scales with neck lvl

[cobalt pelican]

yeah i think it's just the minor reduction gets more and more

no idea how aggressively it scales though

i'd find it funny if we hit neck 70 and people start playing galecallers 1min vend

but that seems unlikely

it's probably something awkward like 1:25cd at max neck lvl

[strange python]

vigor or deeper strategum for m+? most ass rogs r running vigor but see a couple taking deeper, making me question mark myself

[cobalt pelican]

there's not really any benefit to playing deeper as assassination

[strange python]

feel like deeper is good with high crit on dungeons like motherload or omsething

with big packs

[cobalt pelican]

on small packs deeper will just be straight worse, on big packs you likely are going to filter out finishers for the most part and then cp is irrelevant

if you're seeing anyone play deeper it's probably a specific dungeon with a specific thign in mind rather than for the overall picture

[strange python]

okay i like ur take, im a new ass rog so im not gonna try to theorycraft yet rofl

listen to my elders

tyvm<3

[vagrant tapir]

Has there seriosuly not been a good coral aura created?

[cobalt pelican]

what do you mean by good

[vagrant tapir]

Every one I see, including the one linked is a group and not a single aura

[cobalt pelican]

there are several coral weakauras, good just depends on what you actually want

[vagrant tapir]

By good I mean a single concise aura

Usually you make a group when the parameters are too complex to be resolved without lua

[cobalt pelican]

why is one single weakaura or a group any different

[vagrant tapir]

Huge difference

In terms of integration with other groups and other auras

[cobalt pelican]

you can nest groups

it's really no different

[vagrant tapir]

It's the reason why a lot of aura makers have moved to more complex single auras

Also memory load is another reason

The more individual auras you have the higher your load on cache will be

[cobalt pelican]

a single complex aura is significantly more strenuous than 3 shitty single trigger weakauras

'aura makers' generally have performance nowhere at the forefront of their mind

there's a reason the majority of weakaura packs perform like shit

[vagrant tapir]

I didnt say they were doing it due to performance, that is a secondary, seperate point. And it really depends on where that complexity is coming from

[cobalt pelican]

but for example in the coral weakaura linked earlier you can more or less condense it down yourself cause it is a little spread out

but i doubt you'll find a single aura for it

especially since you need seperate multitarget and boss trackers

[vagrant tapir]

You can often cut out an entire aura just by using a custom trigger function

[cobalt pelican]

and the use cases for the trinket then is completely different anyway

like how you'd want to track coral in m+ and a raid are very different

[vagrant tapir]

But you can easily use one aura for both

[cobalt pelican]

you can, but you shouldn't

[vagrant tapir]

You can only have one coral application active at a time

Theres no difference

Your use of it, is indepedant of the aura displaying the information

[cobalt pelican]

zzz

just make one if you really want one as 1 aura

[vagrant tapir]

[cobalt pelican]

it shouldn't be that hard to condense the coral weakaura above into 2 auras

and then if you really want it as one have fun with your tragedy of an aura

[vagrant tapir]

I'm not sure why you perceive that to be complex

[cobalt pelican]

it's not that it's complex it's just that it's literally wrong

[vagrant tapir]

So again

[static wind]

🍿

[vagrant tapir]

I dont know why you think there is a difference from the auras standpoint, of tracking coral application stacks on your current target, or another target

You just use multi taget always

[cobalt pelican]

it's nothing to do with

[vagrant tapir]

And you use your brain to determine if youre attacking the correct target

[cobalt pelican]

current target or another target

how boss tracking works is completely different

or SHOULD be in your aura

[vagrant tapir]

What do you mean

Elaborate

[cobalt pelican]

for example

when bosses phase

a multitarget aura

for m+, world events, whatever

literally doesn't work

because it fetches the info

from a completely different place

to boss tracking

boss tracking works cross phase, cross planet, because the information is provided to you through another channel

you CAN condense that into 1 aura

but it causes conflicts

[steep obsidian]

this sounds like a good problem to have

coral wont ever drop for me so i dont have it

[vagrant tapir]

So what im not getting, is why you believe you can't give a independant priority to boss tracked auras when present

**an

[cobalt pelican]

i don't get the problem

just make one

i'm not the person looking on wago for weakauras and complaining nobody else has done the legwork

for something that's functionally inferior

when you're done making it you can also post it to wago for your fellow gamers to enjoy, a win for all involved

:')

[strange python]

What's the best 2nd minor for us to use in ST?

Oh nvm

!essences

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[arctic walrus]

!simyourself

[cobalt pelican]

probably iris/flame but ya do the number thing

[strange python]

I don't have the 3rd yet, was just curious 😛

so I can't sim it lol

[vagrant tapir]

I only inquired why no one had condensed it yet considering it's prevalence. Once I finish I'll post it 😄

[steep obsidian]

most of the logs are using iris

[rigid mango]

@strange python if you go into raidbots and put in your simc string, at "neck level" swap it to 65, and you can sim them 😄

[strange python]

Oh sweet ty Zine

[vagrant tapir]

Looks like this aura is exclusively using multi dot

[strange python]

Iris and flame are generally close for me

But I prefer iris because I don’t like the rng of flame

[cobalt pelican]

flame is pretty consistent i think even if it feels rng

no idea how it scales to aoe though, i guess the ppm stays the same but you could get like awkawrd procs on stormlings on radiance and stuff

[bright smelt]

think the sims are pretty accurate for 2nd minor essences when it comes to sin dungeon cleave?

[rigid mango]

I think iris'll be worse come swapping often

I doubt that anything dslice is accurate for sin, really

[bright smelt]

I mean that's an F then

was considering conflict n strife for the versa (for aoe) or flame

[rigid mango]

Or pp, pp seems the simplest option tbh

[bright smelt]

isn't PP scaling with versa though?

was just thinking since versa so low it might lower the value

[cobalt pelican]

everything scales with versatility nearly

it's not like it has a significant modifier with vers

it's just the only minor option that has aoe value really besides the statsticks/lucid

and haste from iris is kinda pointless, vers from conflict might be okay but probably just straight worse overall

flames is probably straight worse than pp on anything aoe

same with clf

[bright smelt]

comes down to the rppm between flames and pp really

don't think Ripple in Space might be worth it if you time it with your steps and "burst"windows?

[rigid mango]

Seems like a lot of work

[arctic walrus]

what's unbound force like

i havent even bothered unlocking rank 1

[bright smelt]

the minor?

Minor Power:
Reckless Force
When an ability fails to critically strike, you have a high chance to gain Reckless Force. When Reckless Force reaches 20 stacks, your critical strike is increased by 70% for 4 sec.

[cobalt pelican]

sounds pretty cool

but like

i'd imagine fok crits count as a crit instance if any fan crits

[bright smelt]

at least for m+ you stack so much crit

you wont get many stacks

[arctic walrus]

yeah that's what I wasn't sure about

[rigid mango]

Yeah i mean

[cobalt pelican]

worth checking out though

[rigid mango]

also depends on like

bleed ticks + poison ticks

if they stack it it's

[arctic walrus]

it's not like you reset stacks if you crit

[bright smelt]

would be weird if the stacking effect didn't have an icd

[arctic walrus]

i don't think it does

[bright smelt]

well it's time to push 65 then

and sit and autoattack dummy

see what happens

w/w.o psns on

[arctic walrus]

I don't think poisons will stack it

but still maybe the possibility of a big pack and fan not critting

[bright smelt]

then again it's blizzard

[arctic walrus]

leads to an insane eb window?

[bright smelt]

you never know with blizzard

[arctic walrus]

If anything though I think it'll just come down to "it's good but not as good as X"

[bright smelt]

depends on if you get the timings to procc just right

if you have a crit window up everytime the tank has ran around gathering mobs and all stacked

if it times just right with that it could be

[wet ruin]

just tried it, one fok crit counts as crit

so you need non of them to crit to gain the stack

[reef frigate]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[bright smelt]

what about just autoattacking a dummy w/w.o psns?

does that stack, does psn ticks add stacks?

[wet ruin]

nope

attacks doesn't count

bleed periodic dmg does though

and with poisons, the poison dmg seems to stack it

[cobalt pelican]

hm

[simple meteor]

can anyone try maxing my dps i dont have premium and i cant do enough iterations with the items i have

[wet ruin]

but it seems its only for main target

[bright smelt]

I mean last m+ I did 51% of my garrote ticks were crits

so it'd be stacking a bit slow for m+, especially if even 1 crit with fok counts

[wet ruin]

stacking to 20 should be ralatively easy with all DP stacks and some bleeds

but it seems it only works for main target

[cobalt pelican]

like the crit% is a debuff?

[wet ruin]

its not a debuff, but I dropped my gear besides azerite and I have 16% crit

dotting all 4 dummies, I see alot of non crit numbers, yet no stacks

[cobalt pelican]

ah

so you only get credit for noncrits vs your targeted mob?

that's p weird

[wet ruin]

I just realized its not 100% proc 😄

[cobalt pelican]

i kinda wonder how it's implemented in the sim#

[wet ruin]

but again with so many targets I would assume it still only counts the main target

[bright smelt]

nah "a high chance"

[arctic walrus]

link top gear I'll go through it @simple meteor

[simple meteor]

sec

[wet ruin]

ok, so my assumtion was wrong

its not only on main target

but the proc seems rather low to be worth taking

with 16% crit and bleeds and poison on 4 targets it stacks super slow

[arctic walrus]

Oh well worth a shot

[wet ruin]

now I am starting to think that every fok hit counts by itself, as I see some crits from fok and still getting a stack

[vapid scarab]

There’s just an icd on the effect, you’ll get 20 stacks every minute or so

[arctic walrus]

take off poisons and bleeds, and just fok

[wet ruin]

yea, did that

[tacit plover]

Is the pufferfish benthic wrist only good for aoe?

[solid nova]

Can compete on ST, providing the puffer hits

[tacit plover]

Is it rng if it hits?

[rigid mango]

It's RNG if the boss moves

[solid nova]

No, its dependant on when it procs and if whatever you're hitting moves

[tacit plover]

Fair

Thanks

[jovial plume]

if your playing with master assasin

and with memory of lucid dreams

when is the best timing to use the essence?

[bleak spoke]

the first global you don't have energy to press an ability in your vendetta

usually happens like maybe 10-12 seconds in vendetta

[jovial plume]

kk

what traits do u want to stack with master assasin

sometimes it feels really weird if ur not critting with master assasin:p

[rigid mango]

DD, NP, loyal, ttk are all good traits for MA

[jovial plume]

ty

[tough dome]

subterfuge vs. master assassin? Does MA make for a stronger opener?

[vapid scarab]

Depends on your traits

With the right traits MA will be the overall higher choice, but if you have any SS traits then sub tends to sim higher

Subterfuge is also the only thing you should take for dungeons or cleave/aoe fights

[uneven summit]

Do we have some info on when to fit in coral?

[scarlet sequoia]

nah its currently still being theorycrafted

[arctic walrus]

apply it on pull, when the boss dies you'll have many stacks for the trash after

[uneven summit]

gotcha

love the helpfullness on this server

[scarlet sequoia]

the classic

🤣

just check the pins mate

[arctic walrus]

The real grown ups leave messages in the pins or #tc-updates

[tough dome]

@vapid scarab cool thank you!

[uneven summit]

thats all i needed to know, thank you 😉

[true nexus]

my best trinket sims are galecallers + cyclotronic

kinda feelsbad since I usually just use 1 keybind for my on use trinket

[vapid scarab]

Time to get better

[lone junco]

dont do that.

ive had 2 macros since BC prob.
/use 12
and
/use 13. doesnt matter if they are usable trinkets .

or 13/14 whatever

[true nexus]

yeah

[lone junco]

it is nice to have just 1 though

[true nexus]

how bad would it be to macro galecallers to toxic blade

[lone junco]

what

[arctic walrus]

[lone junco]

GC requires you to stand in it. TB is an attack. plan for dropping GC when you arent moving.

or just get dice.

just get a WA that yells at you when your trinket is ready and has an Icon

[rigid mango]

Just get plumage

If you want something farmable

[arctic walrus]

Just get coral and font

[rigid mango]

[true nexus]

i have plumage and dice

[vapid scarab]

Coral+font is so aids to play with

I finally got font from heroic so was playing with it all reclear this week

[true nexus]

no coral no font but i have dice, phial, GCB, jar

[rigid mango]

I want a WA for the pairing

[vapid scarab]

I started making one but got busy with something else

[true nexus]

how can I compare different punchcards? I tried this but i dont think it worked properly

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ifW2eeytRvtCpvbYHLq8Fz

[arctic walrus]

think that's in trinket 1 not trinket 2

[true nexus]

oh

I still dont really understand the result window

[arctic walrus]

do top gear andlink

are you sure you're putting in the right cards

red/yellow

[dark crag]

I thought i try to get benthic hands, after 4 tokens i gave up

Because i got them

[true nexus]

That's my top gear

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oiscZ83XgGW1uuTybHpVt5

[arctic walrus]

and you wanted to sim what

[true nexus]

i simmed a titanforged big vers low crit https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/53funMSx6A5RxJXUXuZKyp and it shows as higher

[sudden ocean]

I use Queen A gloves now anyway luhmi

[true nexus]

i had big crit small haste

[sudden ocean]

More consistent

[arctic walrus]

do u know the name

[true nexus]

just wanted to know if i should drop gcb for dice and i wanted to change my yellow punchcard

omnipurpose effective logic board

424

vs a 408 forceful efficient logic board

[dark crag]

Get r3 rockboi

[true nexus]

dice sims like -150 dps from GCB

[arctic walrus]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pp38SB5aGCevWUrEME6NSC

[dark crag]

And 445 weapon

[arctic walrus]

so there's the card

[true nexus]

well in that top gear its already equipped i believe

@dark crag im like 32 reliquaries away :[

i'm probably getting something tonight doing full 8/8 H

at least 1 dagger, 1 trinket out of coral/inkpod/font i hope

coral is like 1.5k increase in droptimizer

and my weapons are ass

[vapid scarab]

No that’s the spec

[dark crag]

Ass ass in

[desert vault]

i don't eve know why i keep buying benthic gloves ....

over 100 pearls this week, zero gloves

[dark crag]

Just need to upgrade them to 420

[tiny ember]

Yo bois quick question about essences which major/minor do you bois use for mythic raiding and for mythic + I litterally don't know for assa but i know for outlaw ❤

[solid nova]

Finished my 4th piece to 425 today, was like 300+ pearls for wrists

[fervent jasper]

Which ring would be better for m+? 455 socketed haste mastery ring, or 430 baseline crit mastery, crit heavy?

[tiny ember]

sim it

[dark crag]

420 were 400dps upgrade over 450 crit/mast ones i have

Use both together

[tiny ember]

@dark crag what esences do you use for mythic+ and which ones for raiding I'm confused by the wowprogres page if you odn't mind me asking you

[fervent jasper]

Everyone says simming for sin m+ is unreliable

@dark crag I have a 455 socketed crit mastery ring I'm using in the other slot

[dark crag]

Rockboi r3+ lucid minor r3 raid. Richmon's eyebeam r3 + lucid minor r3 m+ on trash heavy stuff, blood r3 + lucid minor r3 boss m+

[fervent jasper]

Shit has 400 crit on it before the socket and the enchant

[tiny ember]

Top ten for memes

you could have rick roled me tehre and I would still listen to you

[dark crag]

Use both 455 socket ones, haste loses value in m+ but its not that bad to have

I wish i had your rings

Also you can do dungeonslice sim

[arctic walrus]

Not wanting mecha rings

[strange python]

I can't get rid of my stupid mecha ring

it has SO much crit and a socket.

I have 440 rings sitting in my bag gathering dust because of it

[desert vault]

I am never going to get to 40 crit. Well might be close if I was running Font

[rigid mango]

Mecha rings are awesome (:

Font, crit?

Wut

[desert vault]

Doesn't it have base crit instead of agi?

[rigid mango]

Uhh, maybe, but idk why you want 40% crit?

[desert vault]

For m+ I'm talking

[rigid mango]

Yah but coral just seems better

[desert vault]

I agree. I'm just at like 35 or so and want more

[rigid mango]

40% is easily achievable, all you need are socketed crit items

[desert vault]

Need to get a mecha ring or ring from court which will help some

Got the crap 430 from shrine which has a ton but no socket yet

[tropic ocean]

@desert vault sockets > all

but even without sockets just get crit/mastery items

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/twisting-nether/Drîppin

this is almost 43% crit

with some more sockets can go 46%

also not optimal pants/boots but meh guess with min maxed all sockets u can get close to 50%

[desert vault]

Heh sick 400 ring 😀

[tropic ocean]

😄

hes superior to the 440 one ;p

[desert vault]

I need to figure out what to gamble on next week for 445. Have 430.gorak so not sure I want to roll for them

[tropic ocean]

comes down for what content and how far you progressed into mythic

if u can kill fish, don't roll chest for raid, if you kill zaqul don't roll helm 😄

[desert vault]

Yeah just do 3/8 each week really

I will never get to zaqul

[true nexus]

bout to gamble like 20 bracers for final benthic wish me luck

[desert vault]

Yeah I will prolly just roll heml this week I guess

[tropic ocean]

GL

[true nexus]

whats the name of the bracers again

[tropic ocean]

ori's tidal wrasps

[desert vault]

I just bought 15 gloves today, nothing

[tropic ocean]

smth

just don't give up, I took over 250 token for gloves

then on alt it took me less than 100 token for wrist belt boots 🤷

[true nexus]

which are better ori's or neri's wrists

i got fairly lucky with the first 3 benthics tbh

[rigid mango]

Ori

Ori > puffer > neri

[true nexus]

rip no luck on 20 tokens

[desert vault]

There aren't a ton of good head peices from vendor really?

[true nexus]

slitherling loa is ight? maybe

not endgame good prob tho

[desert vault]

I might just roll shoulders for gorak or something decent for.m+

[true nexus]

shoulders prob a good bet

[rigid mango]

Helm has like, 3? diff good options

Same for shoulders

[cobalt pelican]

cool

[vital haven]

im over 50k dps bois

im a big boi now

[vagrant tapir]

you did it 😄

son am proud

[vital haven]

now to still get grey parses because im doodoo at this game

[shy dust]

It’s not about how high you parse but how big your sim is

[true nexus]

how can you get grey parses lol i actually like afk'd on a parte and still got blue pretty sure

[tropic ocean]

wow fkin beast

[true nexus]

ive died and gotten green in the past

im awful too btw

thought grey = ded

[tropic ocean]

grey =doing 25% or less of the rest of people killing that encounter on your spec

it doesn't necessarily mean one was dead

[lone junco]

long kill times help people have shitty logs as well.

6mins on a boss vs 2:20

[true nexus]

here's a question, i have 110 pearls on my rogue, do I wait to send more bracer tokens from my alt and use to pearls to upgrade or do I upgrade my other benthics?

I have 3/4 benthics at 420 +socket
no bracers at all yet

[lone junco]

if you spend your orbs on gambling socket, you might not have enough to actually upgrade them when you get them

sending the gear from an alt is best.

[true nexus]

yeah

i just ran out of pearls on my alt

feelsbad sitting on pearls but its ideal I guess

[royal lantern]

buy azerite pieces, upgrade them once and scrap for residium i gues?

[fathom wyvern]

best pvp talents for assa?

[tropic ocean]

#pvp

think its pretty straight foward, medallion, system shock, maneuvrabiliy is what I see high rated bg players use

[true nexus]

smoke bomb

[iron vigil]

Anyone know how much your dps increases on average after unlocking second minor

[scarlet sequoia]

2-3k

[empty tide]

ye , mine was 2.2k

[iron vigil]

Are you using CLF major and Lucid Dreams + worldvein for minors?

[scarlet sequoia]

clf major lucid dreams + iris or conflict minor

sim urself but those are the ideal setups

[wide hedge]

if i push my neck to 65 its going to be approx. 2.8k dps upgrade up to 51k.

so yeah, 2-3k sounds right

[red plaza]

Ya lucid + iris minor is much better in reality. Worldvein is a sim trap lol

[hoary patrol]

What are best azerite pieces for assa in dungs?

[wet ruin]

what makes flames sim better than iris? more haste?

[heavy haven]

how are you guys handling delayed CD usage when it comes to rotation on fights like Ashvane where I'm not doing my traditional opener

[dark crag]

You play like you used your normal opener

Tb on cd and vend/vanish/essence when the shield brakes

[hoary patrol]

What is good sim dps for assa rogue?

[dark crag]

50k+

[scarlet sequoia]

below 53k is kinda bad tbh

[dark crag]

[true nexus]

55k or youre inting

[cosmic pier]

69k for maximum meme potential

[cobalt pelican]

between 50.8 and 50.9 is good

above that and you're a tryhard nerd

below that and you're a weakling

[verbal knot]

Guys I parsed 100th percentile on ranking in Radiance healing as Sin rogue get at me

making guide for tips and tricks

[rigid oxide]

ive read over alot of the different ways to get my dps up, but im stuck at 432ilvl and Sim at 37.8k not sure what im doing wrong : /

[verbal knot]

having a second passive is like 2.5k difference and a lot of people have that

Obviously I'm no pro but simming and using raidbots to determine what stats you need currently is good

I did that and went from simming 40 to 45

[rigid oxide]

ya i use that, and im using all my best gear, my neck is only 58 tho

[verbal knot]

what level are your essences?

thats another big factor

[true nexus]

are you using top gear sims

[rigid oxide]

my lucid dreams is rank 1 still, im suppose to use that i beleive at rank 3 tho

[true nexus]

buy the premium and sim some fat combination top gears and then keep simming

[verbal knot]

yeah essence levels make a big difference

[quiet forge]

Could someone please explain Font + coral? I know, I know "PINS PINS !!!" but pins only speak about Coral solo and in case on Font + Coral there is only instruction for Font but can't see anything about Coral

[rigid oxide]

i usually run rank 3 condensed, and rank 2 crucible for single target

[true nexus]

no two ways about essences

they are huge increases

rank 3s are big

a good one to grind out right now for you is r3 crucible if youre at 58

[rigid oxide]

i was told rock the condensed as major, and lucid dreams as a minor

[true nexus]

you need 60 for r3 and its good

[verbal knot]

Yeah, if you had rank 3 essences + 2nd passive it would easily be a 5k increase or higher I am sure

[true nexus]

CLF and lucid are good, but time gated

so work on those

but for immediate increase get that r3 crucible of flame

[rigid oxide]

on most fights tho i use Iris / CLF

[verbal knot]

Lucid is also great for survival

[true nexus]

lucid minor is amazing

[rigid oxide]

ill be half way to 60 today

also i run 3 DD 2 NP 1 SS and 2 Overwhelming power

[verbal knot]

That opens up the quest for rank 3 crucible

That's a good setup

imo

I run 1 NP

I like it for the energy gain

[rigid oxide]

ya i think my azerites are good, but essenses are seeming to be what i lack, also my trinkets are 415 coral/socket, and 430 dribbling

a warrior took my font last night from H azshara 😦

[verbal knot]

Coral is good, Dribbling isn't terrible(?) A lot of people run Font + Coral and double on use seems sucky but I have to get around to figuring out how to best make use of it

I like harlan's loaded dice personally

[rigid oxide]

well coral doesnt have a internal cd so its not too bad

[verbal knot]

I have a 430 socketed one of those

But I will def use font if I get it

[rigid oxide]

yes font would up my by alot im sure.

im supose to use Force multiplier and deadly nav correct?

[true nexus]

you sim your weapons with all possible enchants

in top gear

and see whats higher

[rigid oxide]

i havnt used top gear cus its confusing XD

[true nexus]

check the "replace existing enchants" and click all of em

[dim sigil]

whats the correct use of inkpod and razor coral?

[true nexus]

get familiar with it

its good

[rigid oxide]

i just use coral at beginning and use it again at 31%

[dim sigil]

ok nice

[hazy canyon]

For when I’m running bote in m+ and fighting a boss, is the proper opener g, r, g, vendetta, bote, tb, env... or bote after tb?

[rigid oxide]

it literally yells at me and says too many things selected as soon as i do enchants...

oh its because i had the essenses selected

says Deadly Nav/Quick Nav is 80 dps higher then Force/Deadly

[dark crag]

Vend tb bote env

[heavy haven]

is loyal to the end a sim trap?

[arctic walrus]

No. If people are running it in your group it's very good

[heavy haven]

how many does the sim count?

[ocean urchin]

hey guys help me out here. My guild and I are about to start mythic prog. I have this rogue on my roster who already has a 440 coral and yesterday i got a 430 font. I've checked the pins but won't pairing those 2 trinkets mess up the rotation?

(so got the font and i wanna give it to him but he says it would mess up his rotation)

[arctic walrus]

#tc-updates and

That combo is currently bis

@heavy haven there's a drop down menu in raid bots that you can change how many people are running the trait

[ripe nimbus]

is there a way to sim Coral with only a certain amount of stacks to find out if another trinket may be better on certain fights if u cant keep attacking the coral target until the next vendetta?

[arctic walrus]

how much downtime are you looking at

what boss

[ripe nimbus]

im thinking stuff like court, where i multidot on SS cooldown or like zaqul where im mostly there to kill delirium add possibly azshara? not there yet but ur attacking more things then just azshara

[arctic walrus]

on court and zaqul you're only switching targets for a minimal amount of time, yes you're not stacking for a few seconds, but it's worth overall

For azshara, I found it more beneficial to dot up the various adds and get a stack when they die rather than stack it on anything

mostly p3

[fringe pulsar]

Would a Dark Iron Dwarf race be bad on sin?

[ripe nimbus]

races dont particulary matter anymore

alrite thanks vel would still be intresting to know if theres a way to set number of stacks on coral in sim, just cause id be intrested to find out when my 455 plumage would be better then my coral

[cobalt pelican]

there's no like basic line to change coral, you'd need to change the way the rogue apl specifically uses it

[ripe nimbus]

@fringe pulsar but incase u care https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/races/1t-t24-assassination

[cobalt pelican]

shouldn't be too hard to do

[ripe nimbus]

well for me i wouldnt even know where to start so 😛

[cobalt pelican]

it's kinda more of a pain now cause coral is like.. tied to vendetta if it's equipped

[quiet forge]

Could someone please explain Font + coral? I know, I know "PINS PINS !!!" but pins only speak about Coral solo and in case on Font + Coral there is only instruction for Font but can't see anything about Coral

[vapid scarab]

- Use font 4s precombat and after that pretty much on cooldown as long as Vendetta has less than 20s on its cooldown.
- Then, with in-fight Font, the idea is to hold Vendetta(+Vanish) a bit to make it also profit from Coral. It's a gain to hold it until Coral is ready (hence the 20s condition above) but...
- If a Toxic Blade is coming up before Coral (which is the case in default fight timings) it's better to Vendetta right before TB and then use Coral ASAP.
- Summary of example timings: 4s precombat Font, Coral ASAP to start stacking.... Font when ready again at 1:56, Vendetta before next TB around 2:10, Coral into it at 2:16.```

#tc-updates

[limber abyss]

on how many targets should i maintain ct? and should I use on bosses? (M+)

[civic palm]

0

[royal lantern]

CT is outclassed by echoing blades

no real reason too take it anymore right now

[strange python]

hey,
I'm an aff main rerolling to rogue, and I think I have some gameplay issues, is it possible to put a log here so somebody helps me?
My carr don't have any benthic / crafted gear so that a part of my "low" dps, and I'm working on it, but I'm wondering if I'm missing something

[wide delta]

is there an item to mine fast when u do islands?

[strange python]

yup,
During the darkmoon fair you can buy something to mine faster I believe

[wide delta]

but there is no enchants or something ya?

[strange python]

I don't think there is, but it's possible that I'm wrong too
I've only seen rabbit charms and darkmoon fair stuff used in islands

[wide delta]

I see

thx man

[strange python]

np^^

Hey so im having a bit of difficulty understanding the guide for the rotation

Could someone explain it to me in more simple terms 🙂

[rigid mango]

What're you having issues with?

[strange python]

Garrote
Rupture
Garrote
Vendetta
Toxic Blade
Envenom
Mutilate till 4+ combo points
Envenom
Vanish when Garrote runs out
Garrote twice

so thats what i see on website

And im trying to practice and i dont see how you can garrote

I guess i just need help with opener

[civic palm]

What's the wording used ABOVE the opener?

[strange python]

Garrote is on CD

for second time

[rigid mango]

The worda above are about your talents

Subterfuge or master assassin, they dictate what opener to do

[civic palm]

The wordage used above that opener dictate that you would be using SUBTERFUGE, which allows for abilities that require Stealth be used for 3 seconds and Garrote incur no cooldown.

[strange python]

I realized what i did

Im dumb sorry!

[rigid mango]

Gl 😄

[strange python]

Supposed to do Mutilate till 4+ combo points
Rupture
Mutilate if still in master assassin window
Garrote
Vendetta
Toxic Blade
Mutilate till 4+ combo points
Vanish
Envenom
Mutilate till 4+ combo points
Envenom

[rigid mango]

Yep, that one

[tiny cedar]

sometimes a question, one uses Envenom already with 3CP or always only starting from 4CP?

[glacial crypt]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[rigid mango]

Finish at 4+ cp.

[civic palm]

We should remove 3 of those

Odds are we would use ENV @ 3+ if we had 60% crit.

But we don't, MUT @ 3 and Finish @ 4+.

[tiny cedar]

thanks to all, now the adventure can begin 😄

[civic palm]

woo

[willow wasp]

Is raiding with 6% haste viable lol

[civic palm]

I mean...

depends on what you are raiding :3

[willow wasp]

It’s just an alt so heroic for now

[rigid mango]

No.

[civic palm]

Probably fine for a while but you're gonna want to triple that value.

[rigid mango]

Quadruple, probs.

[civic palm]

Would be hawt.

[cobalt pelican]

seventuple

[scarlet sequoia]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ktojW337aAkUJJSdLMpxzJ first without worldvein

[cobalt pelican]

how many times did you run the sim for variance

or are you just the luckestdog

[scarlet sequoia]

15 or something

[cobalt pelican]

nice.

[unborn berry]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[opaque island]

I just got the kul tiran cannon is that good?

[cobalt pelican]

no

sorry to break your heart

[opaque island]

I didnt think it was. It fuckin warforged on me to 420 :(

Still gonna try for ashvane razor

[cobalt pelican]

yes do that

let me be an inspiration

last week i had no coral

this week i have a 415 a 430 and a 445

[opaque island]

That's awesome

[cobalt pelican]

nelf -> human is like 380 simdps now..

how long will it be before i CAVE

to the NUMBERS

[opaque island]

Human look cooler

[placid mulch]

But shadow meld though

[marble elm]

Alliance racials are too good

Please nerf

Thanks

[cobalt pelican]

buff alliance racials more

so that there's more than 3 guilds

woo

make humans get 10% secondary stat

[placid mulch]

I miss when humans had the double trinket in pvp that no one else did

[swift moss]

Is there anyway to track other people using loyal to the end?

Other than asking

[civic palm]

an addon that shows equipment.

eg. Exorsis Raid Tools.

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/exorsus-raid-tools

Has a Raid Inspect tab.

[opaque island]

Should I use the entrallers trinket from the naz weapon boss?

[civic palm]

Depends on the other items you have, which you can check with; https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

or if you don't have many options just list them.

[opaque island]

I legit dont. It's either the cannonball trinket the pocket from mech or the entrallers

[civic palm]

Get revered with Mechagon for the vendor red card and use Enthrallers.

[opaque island]

Alright.

[civic palm]

Cannonball becomes extremely poor when literally any movement is involved.

[opaque island]

Gotcha. I figured it was garbage

I used to think it was awesome

[civic palm]

It's pretty neat, but the cannon is very limited.

[opaque island]

Any good in ovo5?

Pvp? Sorry

[civic palm]

Cannon? Unless you can stun someone forever, the trinket is useless.

[opaque island]

Kinda just wanna sell it then

[cobalt pelican]

if you have the card for cyclotronic then you basically can

enthrallers is the vers/mainstat proc one?

[civic palm]

Yep

[cobalt pelican]

it's like kinda bad but it's at least usably bad i guess

will do fine until you get one of the dungeon trinkets

that doesn't suk

[civic palm]

or any of the raid trinkets.

Minus like...

2? of them.

[cobalt pelican]

just vision of demise i think

[civic palm]

There's a vial too I think?

[cobalt pelican]

oh phial of the arcen tempest

yeah that kinda sucks too but it's like

probably better than enthrallers still

[civic palm]

ye it booty

[cobalt pelican]

i kinda forget that thing exists actually

no idea how

i think it's just cause i've not seen it pop up in lootcouncil at all in all the weeks we've raided

[civic palm]

Yeah I am pretty sure it doesn't exist.

[arctic walrus]

I've only seen one and it dropped to an alt rogue

[swift moss]

How do I activate exorsus in game?

[civic palm]

/ert for menus

[cobalt pelican]

looking through the ert trait list is hard for my brain

i usually just wait till a wipe and check the log for death buffs and see what's going on in the raid tonight

[civic palm]

There's 1 other trait that looks like Loyal.

and it's enough to annoy me.

and wish there was a fucking WA for this

[arctic walrus]

It's stupid that they decided to keep it hidden

just make it an aura, and when you get close to people it stacks up

[cobalt pelican]

yeah i really don't like how inconsistent they are with stuff like that

if their policy was strictly like no permanent aura buffs or something i'd be fine with it

but even the world quest weekly thing has an aura buff

which is completely pointless

[arctic walrus]

World of Warcraft: Battle for Consistency

[civic palm]

While a lot of things don't need to be visible buffs, feels like Loyal should.

There's a breaking point for having 200 buffs and the buffbar being even less useful than it already is.

[tiny finch]

Hey guys! On my vendetta window, should i reapply dots or hold wait till it ends?

[frozen pecan]

[tiny finch]

sometimes i get like 4 seconds on vendetta but my garrote is falling

i always focus on reaplying the bleeds but i dont know if its the play

[arctic walrus]

reapply bleeds

[vale quest]

shadow step on radiance seems bad, i alway end up middle of nowhere and die

[civic palm]

It's fine on N/H if the add spawns across from you.

Other than that, troublemaker ability.

[vale quest]

i used it on heroic and for some reaoson insantly died

[civic palm]

Phase?

Dunno why you would instantly die.

Might be a bug and put you underground.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt pelican]

you don't really instantly die unless you were low or something and st epped onto a thing

but it does like.. randomly decide your spot on the platform

[royal lantern]

you got hit by a tornado, where allready low hp when you used step and the boss used the raid dmg then?

[vale quest]

dunno

[civic palm]

Could easily be raid damage.

[muted maple]

i like grappling hook more just in general tbh

[civic palm]

Hook can't cover infinite distance.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[muted maple]

not sure what u mean, shadowstep cant either. you mean hook doesnt cover as much pathing as step?

[civic palm]

SS can technically cover an infinite distance so long the target is within range.

[cobalt pelican]

grappling around boralus is good fun

[royal lantern]

infinite distance

[civic palm]

But that's useless really, neat when you can do it on Radiance or bigbosses like that.

[royal lantern]

target in range

🤔

[muted maple]

yeah am i the only one thats not getting it? that seems contradictory

[civic palm]

I...

am not going to paint you a fucking picture.

No wait, I will.

[muted maple]

lmao

[royal lantern]

PICTURE TIME WITH MIZ

YEEEEEEHAAAA

[cobalt pelican]

shadowstep very rarely has problems, just weird bosses with no ass that they forget to put 'behind' spots for

usually they add a single pixel spot that's 'behind' that step goes to but for some reason on stormwall and radiance they just

decided not to

[muted maple]

im trying to think about it, like you have somebody targetted and they take like a warlock gate and you sh step them and somehow benefit from the displacement

yeah

it happens from time to time

[civic palm]

The distance to the rear of the target can be LITERALLY ANYTHING, so long the target is IN RANGE.

[royal lantern]

we need a boss that is INFINITE BIG

[civic palm]

gigaRadiance

[muted maple]

the villain of the next pacific rim

i follow now though

[royal lantern]

when you use step, you step out of the game, and your character gets deleted

[civic palm]

Say you somehow bugged a training dummy to increase in size to such a degree that it's hitbox grew proportional to its' relative size, you could then SS a distance far enough to trigger a loading zone and probably lose your character.

[cobalt pelican]

ass so fat you step into another dimension

[civic palm]

Ass so fat you load into SM64.

[muted maple]

when shes so thicc shadowstep zones you into a diff phase

[royal lantern]

thats yo mama joke material right there

[arctic walrus]

wasn't there one that was like "yo mama so fat when you shadowstep to her you get a loading screen"

[civic palm]

Yeah probably.

[royal lantern]

i mean

step into dc is allready thing for years now

[cobalt pelican]

i don't think i've ever dced from a step

i only dc when i dismount just above the ground

and break my ankles

[civic palm]

That shit has been so consistent this entire expansion for me.

😐

[royal lantern]

eh, it was WAY worse in the past, pretty much only has a chance now when the enemy backside is directly on a wall

[civic palm]

I used to be able to fling myself from my mount, travel several hundred feet, hit the ground and DC in regularity.

[royal lantern]

step/sstrike dc happend quite often in legion for me tbh

[strange python]

how do rogues open on the blackwater behemoth fight with that pufferfish and all

i garrote it rupture boss then garrote into vendet TB

then try to float back into greenstuff

shadowstep to boss

[civic palm]

Kill the Puffer, Kill the Boss, Kill the Puffer, Kill the Boss.

etc.

[arctic walrus]

Puffer lasts about 10 seconds

Font and open on puffer

Don't use any CDs even tb

Then I step to boss and begin

[civic palm]

Normal opener, stop @ Vendetta basically.

mut rupture garrote etc.

[arctic walrus]

Guess it's okay to clf

[civic palm]

on boss at high energy and 5cp

I'd probably save CLF for boss but timing matters.

Difficulty, etc.

[royal lantern]

CLF will switch too the boss, so idk if it REALLY matters

[civic palm]

If you BL on boss and not Puffer, still doesn't matter really.

[cobalt pelican]

in an ideal world you just hit the boss get gripped to the puffer and step back

but idk how open your guild are

to pandering to your needs

that boss is always mildly annoying for me because none of the ranged ever want to hit the puffer so it take 50x longer to kill so everyone does less damage

[royal lantern]

im 99,999999%sure that the priest will tell him too fk off

[cobalt pelican]

and then the warlock gates are always used to help the ranged

skreee

[strange python]

im jus puggin, new to rog, whats clf btw?

[royal lantern]

life force

the raid trait

[civic palm]

Yeah we forced our range to hit it 5 seconds earlier than the melee switch.

Because otherwise they're fucking lazy about it.

[arctic walrus]

2nd platform is the same, go to puffer and save CDs, timing will work where u save vendetta for clf

[civic palm]

Yerp.

[steep obsidian]

what kind of shitty ranged do you have lol

are there 0 multi dotters?

[civic palm]

They're just sad.

[cobalt pelican]

people never want to invest time into dotting things that will die like

priests might want a twist proc or something nobody else wants anything ever

[civic palm]

Just get it to 50%, real fucking simple.

[steep obsidian]

the boss is a joke regardless i guess but yeah swimming backwards and forwards to the fish blows

[civic palm]

Only joke is the barb not hitting people right and gibbing people.

[steep obsidian]

we have had that sometimes its just weird

but its such a joke you can sacrfice every barb and still kill it

we just let them all die past hte first platform and immune what we can

[civic palm]

Yeah and honestly, soaking them is probably a DPS loss.

[steep obsidian]

i try and stand right in front of his mouth and it only hits me 50/50

[civic palm]

Ye

should be a debuff, but w/e

[steep obsidian]

is your guild on ashvane miz?

[civic palm]

Yep.

and that's where we stop, pretty sure.

[arctic walrus]

are you eu?

[civic palm]

o _O

[steep obsidian]

ashvane should be easy as hell for even casual guilds once everyone has 65

you can just pull off the 2 expose strat

[civic palm]

Casuals won't have 65 for a little bit here still.

[steep obsidian]

yeah

[civic palm]

and we will see if the RL has a better plan for it this reset.

[steep obsidian]

we have done the 2 expose strat last 2 weeks and its tight as hell

but should be easier this week coz like 7 or 8 people will have 65

[civic palm]

Will have to see how far off we are @ the third barrier.

Will be interesting to see.

[steep obsidian]

its all about figuring out what you want to do and managing cds

[civic palm]

Yep.

Thankfully our RL isn't stupid.

and does a shockingly large amount of research.

[arctic walrus]

Even we are like 10 seconds off from not making 2 shield strat

[steep obsidian]

yeah its extremely tight

[arctic walrus]

how low do you get it from first break

[steep obsidian]

i think the best is like 45?

but its normaly like 47 or so

im tempted to run visions and try and sneak in extra vendetta this week holding it for ages feels crappy

[arctic walrus]

most likely not worth

you running visions won't make or break the push

[steep obsidian]

yeah

[drifting cloud]

also pointless if you have font 😛

[steep obsidian]

i do not

or coral

[sterile ocean]

for my 3 traits i want Life force Lucid dreams and blood right?

for raiding

[steep obsidian]

only our healers and ranged can get them apparently

[arctic walrus]

not blood

[civic palm]

Third essence is pretty close IIRC.

[arctic walrus]

sim yourself but it'll probably will be iris

[steep obsidian]

i only have r2 blood 😐 too lazy to grind it

[civic palm]

Can't fault you for that idiocy.

[sterile ocean]

was gonna say blood mallet shows blood as one my top 3

[steep obsidian]

most top logs are using iris for st though

[civic palm]

A chart isn't using your gear.

[arctic walrus]

if you're using blood mallet you cant say "my"

[sterile ocean]

its one the top 3 dude reason i asked

[drifting cloud]

well now you can run a 2min sim to make sure

[sterile ocean]

i cant sim showing a exsample for a 3rd trait

3rd slot i mean

[drifting cloud]

sure you can, you just edit your neck level

[sterile ocean]

wont let me

i even tried

[civic palm]

neck=,id=158075,bonus_id=6316/4932/4933/1596,context=11,azerite_level=65

[sterile ocean]

i pasted that and dont show a 3rd slot

: /

[civic palm]

Pick another one.

[arctic walrus]

because it doesn't

you pick one

it'll even tell you that you can't sim

[civic palm]

Changing your level to 65 should yap at you for not having correct combinations if you have 1 minor selected, will shutup when you pick at least 2.

[sterile ocean]

its saying canoont make the valid combonations

[nimble vault]

Does TB and vendetta and such boost inkpod damage?

[civic palm]

Yeees, select moooore.

Nope.

[nimble vault]

Cool, thanks

[drifting cloud]

Mize, how does assa apl do coral+inkpod

does it still just use with vendetta and ignore inkpod?

[civic palm]

Dunno.

Lemme check if there were updates.

Looks like it doesn't care about Inkpod.

It's more interested in TB, Vendetta, and Font, Coral.

[drifting cloud]

yeah was just wondering since on last 2 bosses the font/inkpod split seems pretty close to 50:50

and I think font honestly oversims a little, the apl nuances on it are insane

[civic palm]

Yeah.

Using it correctly requires you to be a robot.

and the encounter to have no mechanics.

Outside of the opener you have to hold things to MAKE SURE they line up.

[drifting cloud]

yeah sometimes its hard to find the perfect font charge up, tb on cd, having low enough energy, no mechanics inbound

but on the other hand its insane for just prio damage

[civic palm]

I almost don't want to use Font because of it.

[lean coral]

so im noticing pmuch every rogue using bote on azshara. Is it being used at a specific burst point?

[arctic walrus]

coral/inkpod is just too good for zaq imo

[civic palm]

Probably using BOTE to cheese.

[drifting cloud]

its because of last phsae isnt it Vel?

you can get 2x bote in or

[arctic walrus]

coral/inkpod or bote

[drifting cloud]

I mean bote for azshara

[arctic walrus]

bote is good in p3 if you need the add damage

[drifting cloud]

that the other guy was asking

[arctic walrus]

you get it on the first and third add

[civic palm]

ye

[arctic walrus]

I ran clf, because it's more azshara and 2nd add damage

[gusty phoenix]

quick question. does wound poison work against health pots?

[arctic walrus]

don't see why it wouldn't

[gusty phoenix]

Sorry if it was a dumb question, i am new to sin

[drifting cloud]

I honestly dont know

[arctic walrus]

It reduces all healing idk why pot would be excluded

[balmy quest]

What is a better combo for Orgozoa cheese - I can'

• I can't get 3 EB with an SS trait

should I drop an EB, not get SS, or go MA?

[arctic walrus]

1 ss 2 eb is fine

depends on what else you have

[fringe pulsar]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[fringe pulsar]

Anyone else using Mizeroks WA's

[civic palm]

Yeah me :3

[fringe pulsar]

Oh hi

perfect

[peak saffron]

no, i hate him

[civic palm]

[fringe pulsar]

So the poison check doesn't work 😦

for me

[civic palm]

Which one?

[fringe pulsar]

idk what I did wrong, everything else works fine

https://puu.sh/E9dWv/8c30e2c2e7.png

those 2

[civic palm]

WeakAuras had an update earlier that messed with Text 1/2 showing or not showing.

[fringe pulsar]

ah 😦

[civic palm]

You can fix it though, ezpz.

[fringe pulsar]

I'm a filthy stoner, and have not realized for like 3 keys tonight LOL

my teammates not happy with me

[civic palm]

Just click the 1. Text and/or 2. Text in Display and see where the text it.