assassination

[undone pasture]

Best mount is headless horseman

[brittle ocean]

is there a wa for tracking whether you're in the line for piercing barb on mythic behemoth? kinda hard to see sometimes

[low junco]

wdym?

[brittle ocean]

like if you're in the line, it will say "stay" or if you're not in the line it will say "soak"

[fallow otter]

nah

cant be done

[low junco]

i actually dont get what you mean

but

in my guild people just use defs

or stack like 4-5 ppl

havent helped anyone soaking it

[brittle ocean]

yeah i dont think theres much trouble for melee but was just wondering since some range in my group have trouble seeing if they're in it or not, oh well

[winter moss]

@brittle ocean i have bad news for ya, they dont have trouble seeing

they just cba soaking

[low junco]

true

[cunning lagoon]

is there any good assa m+ guides? ^^

[winter moss]

common sense

[brittle ocean]

im 100% sure thats true for some of the people in my group lmao

[low junco]

have you seen musclebrahs m+ opener @cunning lagoon ?

[cunning lagoon]

for now not seen anything but ravenholdts rogue guide which touches pretty much nothing about m+ except for talents

but i'll take a look ^^ thanks

[low junco]

i can pmuch tell u

like what i am doing

[winter moss]

woah

neuro

[low junco]

:DDDDDDDDD

[winter moss]

we dont use that word here

[low junco]

which one

[winter moss]

the m word

[low junco]

oh

[winter moss]

so basically @cunning lagoon all you need is the talents 2/2/2 setup and a good understanding how energy generation as sin works

[harsh sphinx]

check out seliathans stream, incarnated on twitch. peep some vods

[winter moss]

and maybe a bit of m+ knowledge

[cunning lagoon]

talk of which - any weakauras to track the amount of garrotes and ripostes up? ^^

[low junco]

basically you garrote one, garrote two, garrote three

[quasi pewter]

why do i get a fucking mount from unshackled paragon but no pearls

[shrewd night]

Garrote 1

Garrote 2

Maybe rupture

But garrote 3

[low junco]

40k dude

lets go

[quasi pewter]

its over

[low junco]

https://www.twitch.tv/musclebrahtv/clip/EnchantingLuckyBeefAMPEnergyCherry

[winter moss]

@cunning lagoon proper name plates

[low junco]

i am laughing so much

[winter moss]

dude cmon

[low junco]

while watching this

every single time

[cunning lagoon]

i am a master of assa now, thanks bros

[winter moss]

no srsly

garr1, garr2, garr3, rupt, fok, rupt, fok, env

and try being energy positive or neutral

understanding of how energy generation as sin rogue works

[low junco]

i mean

u get more energy from more ruptures

right?

[lime path]

more energy is useless if you're capping constantly

[low junco]

i havent been to the point of capping constantly in m+

[lime path]

if you put rupture on a ton of shit and you have lucid dreams minor

you will

[low junco]

i mean

[lime path]

thats why I think rupturing beyond the necessary amount to sustain your fok spam seems superfluous

[low junco]

rupturing more than 3 is basically

useless

[lime path]

but what do I know

[low junco]

and stupid

[lime path]

yeah I only usually do 2, maybe 3

then just fok spam

[low junco]

the thing i do the most is

i snipe a low health mob and rupture it before it dies

[winter moss]

idk if you guys are meming or nah

[lime path]

wasn't the mob count threshold 5+ to fok spam without finishers?

or did I misread that

[low junco]

@winter moss i mix memes with being serious

[lime path]

I thought you use finishers at 4 targets and below

fuck, have I been doing it wrong this whole time? rip

[low junco]

idk but

i am simming my stuff for 2 hours now

cuz 300,000 sims

300k iterations i mean

[winter moss]

12 mill

every fucking sim

[low junco]

i dont have the money

i live in a poor country

and i am a uni student on top of that

[winter moss]

just pay with parses

[low junco]

my guildmates dont want to share their one aswell

so i am stuck with being a pleb

wdym pay with parses xd

[lime path]

are you using raidbots neurocloud?

[low junco]

yes

[lime path]

cuz you can just sim yourself via the client without any wait times

raidbots is just the ezmode version

[nimble tartan]

https://www.twitch.tv/miamalkova/clip/CoweringSweetCockroachMVGame

@arctic walrus @marble elm

[lime path]

simcraft application is only slightly more interactions, but no queues, since it runs off your PC and not a server

[low junco]

idk dude

i am not a big brain 20k iq

to know how that works

i am just gaming here and there

[lime path]

I can teach you

if you want

[low junco]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

from what i see from this video its raidbots but more complicated?

idk

but it takes a while

[vestal wren]

raidbots is just an interface over simc 😛

[nimble tartan]

dude raidbots is legit the best thing to ever happen to wow

i miss shadowcraft loot upgrade system though

[low junco]

i guess i have to learn the simc app

[young portal]

I've read the pinned message about the ashvane trinket before you all shoot me down lmao. So just to confirm, apply the trinket in the opener and then activate the stacks on second vendetta? Is that right?

[low junco]

yes

[arctic walrus]

@omr do I extinguish on CD or save for vendetta

[low junco]

dont forget to reapply after the cd goes down aka 20 sec after u use it @young portal

[young portal]

@low junco you mean 20 secs after I've activated the stacks on second vendetta?

[low junco]

yes

u can get a wa from wago for it

[sick edge]

Guys I have both Aszhara’s font of power and ashavane’s razor carol. I use font prepull(which puts coral on cd) do the usual opener and then use coral as soon as it is available. What I am not sure is when to activate the coral buff. a) is there a certain number of stacks that is best to have before using it? (Normally have around 13 or so before vendetta is up again) b) because of font coral never seems to align properly with vendetta but I use it there anyway. Is this the correct use for the above trinket combo or am I missing something?

[young portal]

@low junco thanks mate, appreciated👍

[low junco]

@sick edge 1 min and ill answer u properly

[arctic walrus]

@vestal wren was there a change in apl that now makes font/coral stack not as good as previously thought. I'm simming nightly and coral/inkpod is better than font

[vestal wren]

none i am aware of

[arctic walrus]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fMohWS32HwXFhctJJBzM4y

This is before

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wxmrgQ7PskCLYN5EeN68Dd

Nothing to me seems different

But I drop almost 2k

[nimble tartan]

there was a change for better coral/inkpod interaction

[sick edge]

@low junco thanks mate. Forgot to mention that raidbots seems to let the trinket stack way more than 13-15 before using it.

[low junco]

from what i see from the opener with font/coral people use font literally on prepull with pot

then apply coral asap

and use coral with 2nd vendetta

[harsh sphinx]

from what i've seen most use font with the 2nd vendetta

then coral after during tb, not sure whats optimal though

[vestal wren]

hmm 8 am is nightly rebuild

might be sth with nightly

[sick edge]

Which is what I am doing but it doesn’t align due to font putting the coral trinket on cd again.

[arctic walrus]

I'm so dumb missed the simplest thing

[harsh sphinx]

not tb in the vendtta, should of clarified. but afterwards. idk the best way to use it

[arctic walrus]

2nd sim set to 8 minutes

[nimble tartan]

[low junco]

tb with lucid dream and coral? @harsh sphinx

[harsh sphinx]

no, font/coral

[arctic walrus]

playing outlaw

[nimble tartan]

playin outlaw 😎

[low junco]

idk

id never use 2 actives

[wispy leaf]

Is it worth using font 20s prepull and using the 2nd on use trinket on pull? Or is there a Special apl for Double use Trinket?

[low junco]

wait nvm

[arctic walrus]

Come do court with us tomorrow so you can give me a dagger

[low junco]

going coral + ink is good i think

[vestal wren]

oh ^^

[nimble tartan]

alright first of all

[harsh sphinx]

font / coral sims highest for me by a long shot at least

[nimble tartan]

i have 415 dagger

[sick edge]

Font and coral sim the best though.

[low junco]

@wispy leaf font on 10s prepull and then using coral after 10s maybe?

[harsh sphinx]

no ink though

[arctic walrus]

Yeah give me it anyway

[low junco]

10s after boss is pulled

idk

[nimble tartan]

garrote 1 garrote 2 garrote 3

[low junco]

i have no idea i dont have the trinkets to try them and give an honest opinion

[arctic walrus]

Font/coral might not be the best anymore @sick edge

Refer to my previous linked sim

[sullen pagoda]

40k

its over

[low junco]

hmm

[pallid fulcrum]

whats the best pre pot to use now with the nerf on focused resolve?

[winter moss]

fury

[pallid fulcrum]

k ty

[long hill]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k2Ngee2dNei1zFGPh6wV9J should i buy gorak like sim is telling me or just gamble? What do you think?

[fallow otter]

dont ask me

im bias af

[long hill]

Gamble so, not direct buy and gg for the 8.2?

[sullen pagoda]

never direct buy

it might sound like a smart move but really isnt

[long hill]

Well for have more piece in buff/nerf case

I will gamble so

[wispy leaf]

Gamble, so you can be pissed how bad the rng system is

[young portal]

Gamble!

[long hill]

Ye last tier had a bag full of azerite so

[young portal]

I gambled last night on chest and got Spymasters, so Gamble!

[long hill]

Got the bis for my char so i am fine with gamble ahah

[fallow otter]

i got blighted bullshit

gamble beware

but tbh, im the most unlucky rogue known to man

[young portal]

If it makes you feel better I've opened 123 sets of benthic boots and still don't have socket

[long hill]

^ this for hands

Ahah

[low junco]

ive opened multiple sets of bracers

never lucky

[wispy leaf]

Btw when did they nerf resolved pot ?

[young portal]

2 weeks ago I think

[fallow otter]

yeh quite early

[low junco]

people not using the unbridled fury

[wispy leaf]

But simcraft is still recommending resolved?

[fallow otter]

im pretty sure ive got the same with the tank belt

before i knew it did pew pew and only 3% threat

[kindred skiff]

For general m+, should I run 3x Double Dose, 2x SS, and 1 TTK, or use 2x DD, 2x SS, 1 TTK and 1 EB

[young portal]

@hollow wraith -.-

[tall narwhal]

Isn't dd in m+ a waste?

[harsh sphinx]

@hollow wraith are you just popping coral at 20 stacks

[young portal]

I wouldn't run any DD in m+, but in the two cases you've suggested. The latter is the better

[kindred skiff]

What would you suggest running of the items I currently have? https://i.imgur.com/wuXLWTe.png

[sullen pagoda]

the ones simming highest

[quasi pewter]

deathsnap ttk eb 2nd pvp shoulder ss ttk and deathsnap ttk ss

[cold fossil]

go ttk echoing blades on deathsnap

mm

[quasi pewter]

from left to right

[sullen pagoda]

oh u talking from m+

ups

[patent topaz]

I rolled frost damage gloves with a socket in 3 gloves yesterday

only thing left to roll is a belt

[kindred skiff]

Wouldnt the 445 be better than gaining 1 ttk?

[quasi pewter]

nah

not with dd

3ttk 2ss 1eb is pretty good

[low junco]

that was some deleting @fallow otter

[fallow otter]

ye realised its just junk no one needs to read

[low junco]

=D

[kindred skiff]

I did sim it btw, at least for dungeon slice (which I would assume one would use for m+), and it suggests 3x ss and 3x DD. For me it makes no sense why it sims better, but 🤷

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iZLAhgHf6HSFEgmmSTzvri

[obtuse ruin]

Right now dungeon slice prioritizes ss way above other traits I think

[vestal wren]

❓

dungeon slice might slightly value st over aoe

[night vale]

Regarding optimal usage of Coral + Font.

Am i right in thinking the below:

• 5 seconds: Font
  -1 seconds: Restealth + Prepot
  +15 Seconds: Apply coral debuff

then mid-fight use font as soon as off CD (which will be 10 seconds before vendetta, so it covers the whole vendetta) and press coral when its off CD so it benefits the last 10 seconds of vendetta

If someone could let me know that would be great, cause not sure how to do this

[winter moss]

fuu had some interesting conclusions in #tc-research

[night vale]

ah, ill take a look, cheers mac

[winter moss]

front condition allow a use up to 10 sec pre vendetta, this means that in the ideal case font is used 10 sec pre vendetta (30 sec buff duration) so that the buff covers vendetta completely.
Coral use (atm) is with 10 or more seconds vendetta remaining, this means if font is minimal delayed coral wont be used.
To counter this i tried to allow a slightly earlier font use or a slightly later coral use and a slightly earlier font use.

[low junco]

that means

font on prepull 10

right?

[winter moss]

exactly

[low junco]

the warlocks in my guild

need prepull 13

the demo i mean

cuz font

[winter moss]

our mm also wants 15

for fucking double tap

minmaxing

[low junco]

i mean

i am fine with 13 or 15 secs

all damage si welcome

[winter moss]

same

[low junco]

i dont want to listen to people complaining on meetups

[night vale]

wait, why font on 10 seconds pre-pull... then its not covering whole vendetta? am i reading fuu's thing wrong

[winter moss]

i would be fine with 20 sec pull timer aswell

bc people actually start to focus up when they start seeing a timer

font buff is 30sec?

[night vale]

oh wait im dumb ignore me, it has 4 seocnd channel

[winter moss]

wdym?

[low junco]

our raid is really weird aswell

[winter moss]

[wispy leaf]

Mages use 20s prepull because combustion only has 10s duration

[marble tartan]

Got one question might be a tricky one. I read that using razer coral and drippling inkpod has a nice synergy.
Here my thoughts:

• does vendetta empower inkpod dmg
• does masterassassin empower inkpod dmg
• does toxic blade empower it?

Now what should I use this trinket with?

[wispy leaf]

So they can use PvP Trinket aswell

[winter moss]

hey ice

quick answer

no

no

no

[low junco]

thats what i was going to say

wtf

WTF

doesnt it scale only from crit btw

like every trinket

[winter moss]

coral and inkpod have a synergy because after 4min boss giht you have some stacks on it and going into the 30% with 100% crit is giga

[low junco]

i shouldnt have passed the ink yd

but still a person traded me a 445 coral

actually happy af

[vestal wren]

must have had good luck if he can trade 445

[low junco]

he has a

450 button

from ml

[vestal wren]

well, nice

[low junco]

the thing is that i wont cuz my sim was like superior

[marble tartan]

@winter moss do you have any specific numbers you can share?

[low junco]

got from 39 to 42ish

42.3?

idk

that means i had to reroll gems and enchants aswell as changing a ring

[night vale]

my sim went up a load last night cause i got coral +440 font and a 450 dagger

[low junco]

@night vale can i get ur dagger

🙂

[night vale]

:p

[low junco]

2nd time no luck with the dagger

[mighty elm]

APL isn’t using font 10sec before vendetta nor does it use coral in every vendetta window , yet ppl here say use font 10 sec before vendetta and Coral 10 sec in, is APL incorrect then?

[low junco]

3 is the lucky number right

[mighty elm]

Ye ye, still should be generally similar for same combo.

[night vale]

i believe apl isnt optimised to use both of them yet

[vestal wren]

actions+=/use_item,name=azsharas_font_of_power,if=!stealthed.all&master_assassin_remains=0&cooldown.vendetta.remains<10&!debuff.vendetta.up&!debuff.toxic_blade.up
is the font condition

not stealthed
ma not up
remaining cooldown of ventedda lower 10
not during vendetta
not during tb

[mighty elm]

I believe my APL skipped a coral use completely , then when I made it sim 8 min, it used coral 3-4 times last 80 sec

Will look into it more later :/

[vestal wren]

from: #tc-research

[mighty elm]

Ah cheers

Clears it up

[low junco]

i still dont feel like its going to be good

[vestal wren]

its onyl a minor gain tho

[low junco]

2 actives isnt my thing aswell so ill pass to casters

[winter moss]

@marble tartan what numbers you mean

2 on use trinkets is actually useful in current situation

you reduce "downtime"

you are atleast doing something while pooling

[marble tartan]

@winter moss I mean dmg numbers from inkpod with coral/without coral used

[winter moss]

i dont have coral

[low junco]

@winter moss

[winter moss]

and all i said it has a synergy because the pod is enhanced by crit chance

[marble tartan]

i know i know 😄 but just thought you might have some numbers 😄

[winter moss]

im sorry

[heady ridge]

question, what can be failing if i'm nowhere near my simmed dps?

[winter moss]

well most of the time you are dropping due to mechanics

[heady ridge]

i know it's me fucking up rotation but i mean does it spike if you use cyclotronic in a certain time window etc

[winter moss]

sim dps are patchwork fights were no movement was requirend and you have 99.5% boss uptime

[young portal]

I use blast when starved

After opener

[tribal marlin]

First you wont do your sim dps due to mecanics etc... Then note that sim assume there are dmg amp buff (5% magic and 5% physic) as well as BL on pull and pots.

as well as warrior buff etc...

[winter moss]

^

[glad horizon]

best way to use condensed life force r3 essence? use it before vendetta to build haste or?

[faint harness]

cyclotronic gets buffed by r3 raid essence right

[nimble tartan]

ye

[mighty elm]

@vestal wren that pic u sent, how is the one you compared it to using the trinkets?

[vestal wren]

you can look at the sim, its just a minor change to allow a later coral use.
its in #tc-research

[worldly echo]

Can coral be used with other on use trinkets like golden plumage ? Has any testing been done ?

[vestal wren]

using a trinket casues the 2nd one to go on 20 sec cd

[strong folio]

Can I trust the Sims when they say that the trinket from radiance 445 socket is better than my cyclotronic blast? I feel like it's not used correctly on Sims. Heard that it's used during vendetta+vanish combo and stuff. Idk if it is true tho.

[worldly echo]

So what makes font so special? Is it the channel and the 30 second buff it gives?

[signal summit]

How is font + ink? Good togeter ?

[worldly echo]

The font synergy with coral that is.

[vestal wren]

wdym not used correctly?

[signal summit]

Or is it only affected by the crit ? And not primaty

So font Isn't good without coral or What do u mean

Sry im at phonie on Vacay so cant sim

[whole wing]

hello , how the best to farm r3 of blood of ennemy?

[signal summit]

Random bgs But raid essence prob is better for u

If u get r3

[vestal wren]

i mean radiance trinket is passive i dont see how it can be used wrong

[whole wing]

i have r1 of essence raid xD

[strong folio]

I mean that it's used during big cd windows before other trinkets fuu

[safe sluice]

Is the opener for triple dd with ma off?

[strong folio]

No I mean cyclotronic being used wrong. I have coral and the other 2 trinkets as option

Unsure what to use

[safe sluice]

They still open up with garote while most logs show opening with mut - rup - mut - gar

On ravenholdt that is

[vestal wren]

so, with lowest priority on the trinket list...
actions.cds+=/use_item,effect_name=cyclotronic_blast,if=master_assassin_remains=0&!debuff.vendetta.up&!debuff.toxic_blade.up&buff.memory_of_lucid_dreams.down&energy<80&dot.rupture.remains>4
and a fairly restrictive condition its used over other trinkets?

[strong folio]

Yeah as I said. I was not sure. Is what others told me

So I wanted to clarify

To see if I could trust the sims

T'y for the clarification Fuu

Really appreciated

[ionic wigeon]

Hey guys i'm new here. In your opinion, or on what is the difference between the opener with MA talented from wowhead and the ravenholdt guide?

[vestal wren]

The cyclonic condition to split the condition up:
!debuff.vendetta.up - no use during vendetta
!debuff.toxic_blade.up - no use during TB

[strong folio]

Perfect

Thank you

[ionic wigeon]

Garrote -> Rup -> Mut
Or
Mut -> Rup -> Mut
What's the difference?

[tropic ocean]

2nd one is higher dmg when you use master assassin

and dd traits

[ionic wigeon]

I only have one DD trait because I rerolled. I should take the first opener though.

[placid dawn]

it doesnt matter much

its a very small gain

[strong folio]

So minor that is not worth the muscle memory change it requires

[real bay]

actually its g m r

why would you do a 1 cp rup

[sick edge]

That’s what he probably meant unless he is playing SS trait.

[ionic wigeon]

Thanks for the help! 😃

[strange python]

Which are the perfect stats for assa on m+,cause echoin blades? any table or string for pawn?

[winter moss]

disregarding pawn

you want atleast 35%crit and high mastery

haste falls below 10%

[sullen wing]

@winter moss would that be the same for raids?

[winter moss]

for raid simming is always the better choice

as for m+ it's more like feelycraft

[sullen wing]

yeah thought so

[strange python]

@winter moss what about versa on m+?i have too much versa

[winter moss]

versa isnt bad for sin either

[rich lily]

https://i.gifer.com/1YDL.gif

[winter moss]

where as the focus should be mastery and crit

[strange python]

18% versa i have holy fuck xd

[winter moss]

ok

[sullen wing]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/Arqmfj8w9BRvYd1b/11-Normal+Orgozoa+-+Kill+(7:33)/Sneakyrock/timeline
Can anyone recommend how to improve my DPS?

[winter moss]

18% is a bit too much

@sullen wing

[sullen wing]

@winter moss yup noted them

[winter moss]

then why ask?

[cobalt gyro]

the energy regen one is always silly like that, so i wouldn't look at that one too much

[winter moss]

^

but i still believe that there is common sense in people

[cobalt gyro]

0 casts of your trinket as well

running a shrouded, so you can basically ignore the combo point "loss" from garrotes it mentions there as well (since you alway want to cast at least 2 inside a vanish window)

[cosmic prism]

guys can i link a log for u guys to look at, theres a big difference between me and another ass rogue dps %'s (his envenom is doing a way higher % of his dmg than mine with similar traits)

[bronze kelp]

link it

[cosmic prism]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LtrZPmAG7X3BRTMb/#fight=last

[placid dawn]

maybe he just has more mastery

[bronze kelp]

he has one ttk trait

you not a single one

t hats why his envenom hits harder

[cosmic prism]

yeah but one ttk trait wouldnt make that much of a diff right?

[cerulean walrus]

Yes it would

[cobalt gyro]

TTK is x damage per combo point to envenom

so it's like 1.5k each at least, not counting mastery/crit etc

[bronze kelp]

• he has 2 essences

you only one

more crit than you + higher ilvl

[cosmic prism]

realised i wasnt looking at ending dmg, yeah it looks normal enough, think he just popped lucid dreams on the opener and made his envenom do way more

[bronze kelp]

lucid does not enhance your dmg directly

[sharp viper]

!wa

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[bronze kelp]

• you were both pretty even, but he utililzed the BL window better than you

[mystic vapor]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[atomic saddle]

Does anything Rogue brings scale with Inkpod trinket?

[gilded totem]

hello everyone, as the guys before me asked, can i post a log and ask for advices?

[winter moss]

why are you asking to post a log

just post it

and we will take a look

[gilded totem]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zn4fJGW3gZdXjLFP#fight=9

be critic

because to me i played this fight really good but i did not manage to rank

[winter moss]

improve your bleed uptime

by roughly 10%

use toxic blade more often

and try to fit atleast 2 envenoms in it

windows like that are a big no

[gilded totem]

its behemot so maybe sometimes i was killing small fish or swimming,

[winter moss]

probably the time where the fish went to the other platform

[gilded totem]

look at others fights if u want

[winter moss]

refreshing bleeds to early

missing tb casts

overcapping cp with mutilate, outside of seal fate

not a major issue but ill just post it here

using flask would help

[gilded totem]

small errors are still errors

thanks btw

[winter moss]

small errors still add up

but noones perfect

[gilded totem]

whats the perfect time for refresh?

like 3/4 secs^

[sharp viper]

!pandemic

[winter moss]

subterfuge empowered garrote's let them fall off

rupture 5.2 seconds

normal garrote 4.2?

[gilded totem]

thank you, can i ask more?

[winter moss]

!guide scroll down to pandemic

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

[winter moss]

sure go ahead

[gilded totem]

there is a soft cap for haste or crit or mastery?

[winter moss]

nope. no magic numbers

no caps

[gilded totem]

because sometimes i have too much energy

and i feel like it' s wasted

[sharp viper]

am I blind? there is no more pandemic section

[rich lily]

it is in the pinned a little bit below

[solid nova]

👓

[winter moss]

it's hidden

[rich lily]

@winter moss Which homepage you used for the "Sugesstion" Screenshot you posted earlier ?

[winter moss]

wowanalyzer

might be a bit out of date but still works for the basics

[rich lily]

thanks 😄

[livid tide]

is azsharas font of power usable in stealth? because my sim says, it ist (prepull).

[stable oxide]

If you have subterfuge

i've been told

[livid tide]

not with MA?

[stable oxide]

Nope

I use MA and I use it 6-7 sec befor just to be save

then stealth

[stiff grotto]

what is the opener with the essence from azhara?

[stable oxide]

then pre-pot and pull

[winter moss]

0.2% gain if coral and font is used: 10 sec pre pull - font , stealth pot 1 sec before pull

and razor as soon it comes up

yes

sims were not using razor if vendetta had less than 10secs left

[long bear]

hello guys i usually use Gw2 ui so i can see time left for my rapture etc for the UI keeps crashing on me lately... does anyone have tips for me so i can keep my eye on the timers? i know weak auras but i dont know how to set it up

[prisma monolith]

Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

[long bear]

ahaaaa

do i need to install wagio?

addon?

alright 😄

can i like import all the links you gave me?

or do they do different stuff

oh which one you recommend 😛

[bronze kelp]

these are 5 different WAs that do roughly the same. There are 5 so you can choose your prefered one

[long bear]

i just imported but nothing happend :S

nvm

xD

[thorn dew]

So I got Razor Coral yesterday. How am I suppose to use it? I read the pins but I don't really get it :/ Use it at first vendetta and start stacking up for the next vendetta?

[long bear]

thanks kazer 😃

[thorn dew]

Aight! Thanks!

[exotic rose]

Do we use guardian at 1 second before pull?

[real bay]

someone asked about Azshara font, it doesn't break stealth

I've used it in arena and tested multiple times

[dark crag]

It doesn't brake supterfuge stealth

Test with ma and it breaks

[real bay]

that's probably it I'm dumb but so is this game

sigh

[atomic saddle]

Does Inkpod on rogues scale with anything the class brings? I heard it pretty dope on warriors due to the high % crit

[past marten]

Has anyone simmed not reactivating razor and using all stacks on pod vs the 'standard' aka reactivating with vendetta?

Nothing out of the rogue toolkit, only trinkets or traits (BBI or Coral for example) @atomic saddle

[atomic saddle]

ty

Does simcraft use the coral+inkpod combination correctly?

[fast nacelle]

what is correctly?

[lethal heart]

@fast nacelle 👋

[fast nacelle]

sup @lethal heart

all good?

[lethal heart]

manapearl content man

[fast nacelle]

thats a yikes

[lethal heart]

and getting similar rng to bod one

my outlaw azerite is just so much better

and idk i just played outlaw for ashvane xd

[fast nacelle]

my rogue is scuffed

i sim for 42k

my boy swag sims for 46k

[lethal heart]

yee my assa sims like 41 i think

yee

🐀

[fast nacelle]

need dagger n azshara trinket

[near python]

@lethal heart atleast you sim nr1 in my heart

[fast nacelle]

got 430 415

[lethal heart]

i looted 445 wrists socket from 1st boss

bonus roll

445 wrists socket

[near python]

sweb have u seen my dagger rofl

[lethal heart]

and

they're 700 dps downgrade

to benthic

😄

ye i've seen when we were playing bgs

[near python]

😄

[fast nacelle]

i got 3 bracer and 2 boots

out of my rolls for 2 ids

[marble hemlock]

what is this

[lethal heart]

tbh if benthic wasnt a thing

i'd be geared

[marble hemlock]

feels like 2018 assa channel

with these names in here

[lethal heart]

my ilvl would be really high

and i'd have sockets

[real bay]

dick competition

[fast nacelle]

same.. i got 450 boots, 445 bracer and 450 belt

[near python]

hello dear incarnated

[lethal heart]

i kind of still expect them to touch that system after wf race is done

[fast nacelle]

@marble hemlock joined the wash up squad

come and sit down my friend

[lethal heart]

because i've seen sims of people showing 480 boots with socket being barely better than 425 benthic 😄

[fast nacelle]

https://i.imgur.com/48Kc1Qa.png

its down to 40k now though

[lethal heart]

[marble hemlock]

what are you doing tyra :p

[fast nacelle]

mistakes were made

[marble hemlock]

but yeah, nice blast to the past

we just need

@gusty kestrel @jovial kite in here

[fast nacelle]

we need to hurry b4 a mod puts us to offtopic

[crisp hollow]

hypothetically, say I misplay and need to re-apply rupture but have 1-2 CP and not enough time/energy to build before applying it, is it correct to put on a low CP one to just have the dot rolling until it can be overwritten, or do I let it fall off in favor of another mut to put a 4-5 CP one on?

[fast nacelle]

@marble hemlock still raiding?

[winter moss]

tyra

[fast nacelle]

sup

[winter moss]

@crisp hollow personal opinion: uptime > no buff at all

[fast nacelle]

got trolled on ashvane rekill this id
first i had 15% packetloss
then i went on a bubble and my ink exploded on it

so it did 6k dmg this fight

i was about to kill myself

[lethal heart]

man i had huge lags yesterday on ashvane

i was inting so hard because of random lag spikes

[marble hemlock]

yea tyra

[strange python]

Heyo guys, what build should I run for Mythic+ dungeons? I haven't done a single M+ seriously since Legion, and I don't know if I should just consider Outlaw as the spec to gear my main spec (Assa)

[fast nacelle]

where do you raid? still the english guild

[lethal heart]

@strange python outlaw is easier to gear for m+

[crisp hollow]

get echoing blades

as many as you can

figure the rest out from there

[lethal heart]

for assa in dungeons you want echoing blades/shrouded/ttk traits

[marble hemlock]

yeah, still raiding in FwD

[winter moss]

all the big bois inhere

[fast nacelle]

i didnt use my vanish on ashvane - like 20s delayed bc i didnt notice that it didnt went off . but since my ink trolled anyway i was like w/e

[marble hemlock]

no?

[winter moss]

no.

[fast nacelle]

now lets see how zaqul goes

[marble hemlock]

i miss my alacrity goddess 😦

[strange python]

Would it be more beneficial to run Outlaw since I don't raid?

Or can I get 10 keys with Assa

[lethal heart]

just play whatever is more fun for you

really

[strange python]

Assa in a nutshell, I hate Outlaw rofl

[granite dust]

if a pug wants a rogue chances are they dont care what spec you play

[fast nacelle]

sebek did you play some m+ in s03

[lethal heart]

should definitely play assa then

[strange python]

Sub and SIn die hard

[lethal heart]

nah not much really

i jhust do my weeklies and a random dungeon here or there

[fast nacelle]

i thought this new affix is worse than infested but after the void lady fix

its really fine

[real bay]

you can do all keys assa just explo sucks

[lethal heart]

its not bad, just gotta get used to/know the rotations

[fast nacelle]

not as much fun as season 2 but its alrighty

[strange python]

explo ? Sorry, I don't follow. Coming off a high

[lethal heart]

he means explosives

but that affix is gone this week

[fast nacelle]

explosive is no issue for assas

[lethal heart]

assa is pretty decent for explosives ye

[fast nacelle]

yep

[strange python]

I shouldn't have scrapped my helm....

[fast nacelle]

we played 18 fh with 3 min overtime last id - was pretty chill

only 3 min over time - and we had just melee hausmeister cleave

[strange python]

It had TTK and Echoing on it, so did my shoulders and chest

[fast nacelle]

double rogue with ST traits and dh

[fallow estuary]

i have a question about undulating tides

if you drop below 50%, can the dmg thing still proc?

[lethal heart]

rogue is really fucking broken for m+

[fallow estuary]

Or do you need to wait 45 seconds before it deals damage again?

[lethal heart]

1 is mandatory

2 might be meta again

[strange python]

Which spec Sebek ?

[lethal heart]

its very hard to tell right now

i wann say they're really equal

both assa and outlaw

[fast nacelle]

need to go outlaw now cause i cant afford reforging
but outlaw seems pretty fine.
2 / 3 target is buffed

ludens minor helps a lot aswell

[bronze kelp]

a combination of both looks good so far

[strange python]

oh, what essences should I use, that's a better qeustion

[lethal heart]

as outlaw i play blood of the enemy and lucid minor

with deeper stratagem

as assa idk

[fast nacelle]

dont even know if its reasonable but iris/lucid seems fine with DS

[lethal heart]

lucid major for st?

[strange python]

I'm currently running rank 2 blood, and rank 3 lucid minor

[lethal heart]

or blood of the neemy major maybe

actually assa maybe

blood of the enemy major and lucid minor?

[fast nacelle]

uhm for raid?

[lethal heart]

for m+

[inner rain]

for m+ u run iris and lucid minor

[fast nacelle]

for assa i think you just run the beam and lucid

yeah

and for outlaw same actually

[strange python]

Yeah, I got Blood of the Enemy Major at rank 2, and Memory of Lucid Dreams as Minor Rank 3

[fast nacelle]

allows you to have huge aoe burst + enough regen to go DS

[lethal heart]

ye i really like beam as outlaw because you can use it as a filler to recharge your bflurries aswell

[bronze kelp]

lucid major is also a nice thing for instant prio target burst on trash groups

[fast nacelle]

no experience there - but i ll start from this week playing outlaw

i think its better on pull in huge packs

with lucid you rly not have many energy issues

maybe in higher keys if your BF stacks arent enough

you can use it as filler yeah

[lethal heart]

ye the only energy issues i run into as outlaw on ashvane was very unlucky procs during bubble phases

'phases' as in bubble adds

but that was really unlucky

like 3-4 sinister strikes on 4 targets with 0 procs

[fast nacelle]

will def check out some outlaw in the future for m+ and maybe even for radiance and ashvane

i saw people start using iris on ashvane

as assa

[lethal heart]

coz it fills their weakness

[real bay]

dude what

[marble hemlock]

nothing

just said that with people like seb, tyra etc. in here

felt a bit like the good ol days

[real bay]

assa shouldn't even kill the bubbles rly much better people for that

[marble hemlock]

and that only slack/you were missing

[lethal heart]

[marble hemlock]

kinda toxic

[winter moss]

[fast nacelle]

@gusty kestrel thats toxic

https://i.imgur.com/BrPVZ7S.png

the legend

i compared the cds - it rly fits well for padding

[lethal heart]

ye

you can use beam every 2nd adds

i think

[fast nacelle]

just need to pray that no one can immune

[lethal heart]

ye

thats the itneresting thing

everyone said

that they can kill them faster

if noone immunes

which is true

😄

[fast nacelle]

yeah

but i have to say

[lethal heart]

my tank hated me

whenever i saw him + 2x immune classes get the bubble

i'd say

'have fun'

[fast nacelle]

beside bentic sockets which are rly toxic and unhealthy

8.2 did a lot of good stuff

[lethal heart]

and whenever he'd see hunter disengaging/rogue sprinting to him

he'd say

[fast nacelle]

like aoe essence so everyone can blast

[lethal heart]

that he hates us

[fast nacelle]

what are you progressing atm

which boss

[lethal heart]

we just got ashvane yesterday which is sad

[fast nacelle]

i see

[lethal heart]

gonna st art 5th today

[fast nacelle]

gorgonzola is rly just heal and tank fight

[lethal heart]

some of the people underperformed a little bit + not the best rng i suppose?

but we dont really split raid/have alts

so that doesnt help

[fast nacelle]

a lot of guilds struggle atm

[lethal heart]

yep

[signal summit]

How to use the raid essence now when we got r3?

[lethal heart]

but we were running wrong strat aswell

there is many factors

[fast nacelle]

in the german scene the guild who raid a lot early got cucked

[lethal heart]

ye because no gaer

no gear*

[fast nacelle]

cause the new raid continues the trend of cos

[lethal heart]

and ashvane is huge gear + performance check

[fast nacelle]

dude we had it on 2% thursday

nearly world 9

and we only raid 4 times 3.5h :D

would have been fun

[royal lantern]

''only''

[fast nacelle]

wasnt even dmg issue - just ppl died to stupid things

[lethal heart]

i really like ashvane tho

it turned out 'decent' for blizzard

but could've been complete disaster

[fast nacelle]

it is only if you compare the top 25 guilds yea

i like the tuning a lot

[lethal heart]

kind of looks like failed design

because you have to bring 1 extra soaker

was that intended? i dont think so

[fast nacelle]

boss 456 are difficult enough but still doabale fairly easly for good guilds

[real bay]

it feels a bit failed after first 3 free loot bosses

[lethal heart]

i think 1st boss is really good

[royal lantern]

they probably expect 90%of all guilds too do ashvane and the following bosses with 3 essence slots filled

[lethal heart]

its not complete free loot like champions

i like it

gonna be very hard to pug

[frigid briar]

First boss is the best first boss in a while imo

[fast nacelle]

the first boss is actually the best first boss in a while

[lethal heart]

ye

agree

[tacit plinth]

best boss cancer

cool boss but cancer

[fast nacelle]

overall if you think about it - the raid is even better than nighthold

[frigid briar]

Its a good raid imo

[lethal heart]

if only there were 'daggerless' spots so you dont have to run out of melee

[tacit plinth]

Also does anyone use frag's rogue WA's?

[lethal heart]

would be really good

[frigid briar]

Azshara is derpy af though

[tacit plinth]

Or more to the point is this an ok channel to ask about WA's

[frigid briar]

Not a huge fan of the gimicks

[tacit plinth]

I dont need new ones I just need to change one I have

[fast nacelle]

first 3 bosses "free" to get gear - but with the first boss being the most difficult one so you dont get it for free (but radiance kinda)
4-6 take 20-30 tries for good guilds or 40-60 for first day raiding guilds
7 takes about 150-200 (now after essence boost probably like 100 ish)

[tacit plinth]

to turn red font when pandemic is up

[fast nacelle]

however azshara is busted as fuck

like you couldnt balance the raid better imo

[royal lantern]

final bosses always tend too be slightly busted 🤷

[fast nacelle]

nah this is rly busted

its even harder than uunath

[lethal heart]

idk im concerned about azshara

[fast nacelle]

which is prob the best fight since ragnaros hc

same - did you see

[lethal heart]

looks like a 1k wipe boss

[fast nacelle]

she goes to phase 4 after time

like wtf blizz

[lethal heart]

ye

i heard stories about hidden phase

we'll see eventually 😄

[fast nacelle]

how long do they want method and limit to suffer

[lethal heart]

just gonna troll some of my friends

and ask them if they play abberation belt

for hidden phase already

👀

[fast nacelle]

im just happy my boy swag has finally a chance to proof himself

[lethal heart]

and he plays rogue aswell

[fast nacelle]

yeah

[lethal heart]

no longer monk memer xd

[fast nacelle]

and he s blasting

[lethal heart]

so me

doing weeklies with swag

at 3 aam

on tuesdays

pays off

you wanna say?

[fast nacelle]

he just insults me every day

[lethal heart]

ROFL

[fast nacelle]

by posting new raidbot sims

showing that he gets even further ahead

of my scuffed black orc slave

[lethal heart]

what can you do

when someone is overgeared 🐀

[fast nacelle]

yeah well i mean

[faint harness]

your black orc what

[fast nacelle]

it should pay off to do so many hero splits right

not like its just "luck"

that the main roster for azshara gets gear in splits

my orc is black as hell yeah

https://i.imgur.com/QqNnJ5X.jpg

he was sent to the mines at warfront :(

[faint harness]

impressive mog

[fast nacelle]

thanks

[lethal heart]

im almost done with my t3

never shoulders on any of my realms

[fast nacelle]

dude i dont even have gold to reforge

i cant afford a cool tmog

[lethal heart]

just boost m+ 😄

[fast nacelle]

cba really.. but i guess i ll need to

lets see... classic comes soon

[lethal heart]

also if you had alts in bod

[fast nacelle]

so i need to get my gold done since then

[lethal heart]

and you could do 2x mount boosts

i know some guilds did that

[fast nacelle]

we did

but most was for guild bank

i got scammed

[lethal heart]

if your guild gives you gold repairs/food/flasks/pots

its not bad

[fast nacelle]

yeah

[lethal heart]

and augment runes

[fast nacelle]

no only food flask repairs

its fine

and health potions

[glad horizon]

Anyone got a weak aura for condensed life force haste stacks?

[winter moss]

make one yourself

or look on wago

[fast nacelle]

still looking for mechagon wa pack

wago bugs as hell if you look for mechagon

[winter moss]

maybe king mechagon hacked mechagon

[fast nacelle]

excuse me?

[faint harness]

[fast nacelle]

why do you hate black orcs

[faint harness]

[winter moss]

tisu can you be my dad

[solid nova]

[fast nacelle]

any mod here?

im getting bullied

[solid nova]

Keep the shit out of the spec channels

[winter moss]

[lethal heart]

fun is over

[fast nacelle]

pack it up we are done here

[latent gazelle]

Yes take it to the tmog channel.

Were they are even more harsh

[neon sedge]

Q: is there a way to gear compare a different essence rank that you don’t have.

I’m work on blood rank 3

Want to see if it’s a upgrade before hand

[placid dawn]

you can, there is an advanced options box near the essence part

[faint harness]

easy way is to equip the rank 2, go into your /simc output and change the 2 to a 3

[placid dawn]

no need to change simc input

its literally a couple clicks on raidbots

[faint harness]

No but its easier

this line right here

It would say 14:2 if you only had rank 2

[placid dawn]

its not easier lol, just click the advanced controls and thats it

[signal summit]

Is bote simming higher than condensed r3 for some1?

[faint harness]

i've heard rumours

i think it requires a very specific setup

[signal summit]

Sims 2k higher for a friend seems so weird

[faint harness]

I think i have a BotE-friendly setup and its about 400 dps loss compared to R3 life-force

[signal summit]

How do u use life-force optimalt tho?

[faint harness]

on pull before vendetta

really simple

[signal summit]

Ok

[cold rampart]

when do i use my guardian of azeroth

aka condense

[atomic saddle]

So what do you guys think is the final best Trinket combination of this content? Font of Power + ???

[fallow estuary]

how to play coral in m+?

[crisp steppe]

probably don't

[fallow estuary]

idk

seems to be strong according to sims

but im not sure why it gains so much power in dungeon slice

[cunning blaze]

are the fathomstalker benthic gloves good?

[vestal wren]

there are quite some benthic gloves, the damage ones?
they seem good with a socket

[cobalt pelican]

the only leather ones that do damage are poens i think

there's like dodge gloves, find more lab shit, reduced dmg and the ones that heal you

[desert vault]

It is not worth upgrading benthic stuff until you have pieces with sockets? I have yet to see a single piece of benthic with a socket. Pretty lame.

[umbral mauve]

when do u use ur life essence during the opener ? and after that just on cd or ?

[stable yarrow]

b4 vend

[sterile chasm]

how u farm Blood of the enemy guys?

[urban junco]

You harvest the blood of your enemies

:^)

[sterile chasm]

@latent gazelle can u explain?

[latent gazelle]

Mercenary buff. Let’s you do bgs as alliance. They usually have increased honor gains

Or just wait till it’s BG week and spam them then

[urban junco]

^

[latent gazelle]

Also some BGs have quests in them that give extra honor/ things.

[subtle tundra]

i just do the brawl i mostly afk

[latent gazelle]

Yes Brawls are good. Especially to do the quest for them

Don’t you get more honor for actually doing stuff in bgs?

[subtle tundra]

afk = sanity kept

[latent gazelle]

This is true

[floral moss]

how do you use ashvanes coral and azhara font of power trinkets together? they get on 30 sec cd if you use on of them right?

[faint harness]

get a premade group going and stomp everyone

[subtle tundra]

how do i find a good group for that lol

[faint harness]

guild

[latent gazelle]

Group finder

[faint harness]

@floral moss its 20 seconds

[floral moss]

ok yea. but for example: pull + azhara trinket, then you got the agility during your vendetta, after vendetta ends, you can pop coral. but for your next vendetta azhara's is off cd again, so you would want to use it

but then you cant profit from the crit stacks during vendetta, since its 20 sec on cd, right?

[faint harness]

you can channel font earlier than right before vendetta

and still have 100% uptime on the agility during vendetta

[floral moss]

since its 30 sec duration, you could channel 10 sec before vendetta, and then use coral stacks for the 2nd half of vendetta. but that seems meh 😄

[faint harness]

the simc apl seems to be using the coral once during the entire fight

and that is at the end

even without inkpod

[strange python]

1500 pearls later I got my bracers 😂

[vocal ginkgo]

yo do u guys know if the benthic crit dmg bonus effect increase with ilvl?

[floral moss]

@strange python gz

[strange python]

Crit is flat

[vocal ginkgo]

i got my crit boots with socket 2nd try lol

[faint harness]

its 3%

no matter what

[warm arrow]

so is the earth

[vocal ginkgo]

ah ok

[strange python]

Yeah got my boots very quickly

belts the same

[faint harness]

i got the 1000 pearls achievement yday and have been farming quite a bit

how on earth do you have 1500

[strange python]

alts

[faint harness]

right

[strange python]

many of them

and wasting my life

for very little output

[faint harness]

Got bracers and boots at 425 and belt at 420

guess you could say i lucked out

[spice epoch]

yo guys, i need help. Can you help me? i recently got the ashvane coral trinket but don't know when to use it. Simcraft has a 90 sec uptime in an 500 sec fight. So when do i use it?

Its not up for every vendetta

[thin osprey]

@faint harness do multiple characters number of pearls count towards the achievement?

[faint harness]

nah

character based

[upbeat geode]

Dexliz do you have 1 or 2 on use trinkets?

also read the pinns 😉

[narrow orchid]

In what situation would u guys run condensed life force on Mythic behemoth?

cuz i dont have blood rank 3

[scarlet sequoia]

every situation

[narrow orchid]

ok so condensed life force is really good so to say?

[scarlet sequoia]

its the best essence yes

[idle ember]

semi off-topic but still related
Are there any fights that warrant running Outlaw over Assassination. I know boss pumping is king, but aside from cleave padding have you ran Outlaw over Assy on anything in EP that helped the raid over single target.

[vestal wren]

gorgonzola maybe (orgozoa)

i rly liked methods combo for the kill

[crisp steppe]

maybe if you need add dmg on za qul

outlaw with grand melee in delirium seems cool

should also do a lot of boss dmg just not as bursty as assassination

[zenith hatch]

!essence

[prisma monolith]

Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

[vestal wren]

i mean i also like the idea of outlaw on aszhara, but we didnt even see all phases of the fight on mythic

[crisp steppe]

yeah hard to say. and it's going to vary a lot on your guild.

[narrow orchid]

So do u channel font of power prepull?

[serene basin]

yea

[narrow orchid]

So u go channel font -> Stealth -> Prepot -> Coral -> etc

[serene basin]

basically yep

[gray pawn]

Silly question and I have been combing around to find the answer before asking. Is there a break point for crit? Raidbots is telling me to drop some crit for versa.

[narrow orchid]

So when do u use the guardian?

like on pull?

[rigid mango]

Between ma windows

@narrow orchid @serene basin hard to use that opener with both since you get locked out for 20 sec per double on use trink

[narrow orchid]

ye i just noticed

ill prolly do channel font -> stealth -> prepot -> etc etc etc -> coral as soon as i can

[serene basin]

yea

missed the coral part

prioritize font though

[rigid mango]

Aye

[serene basin]

just make sure to delete ur char

when none of your opening mutilates crit

[cinder sparrow]

feel mad :/

[torpid kernel]

whats the opener with MA and r3 condensed life-force?

[rigid mango]

Standard one just with clf before vend

[desert vault]

do you only get the eternal ornament stuff once per boss kill each week?

and you only start to get them once you have the quest I assume? Cause I've done plenty of heroic and never had them drop yet

making these mythic goggles is a pain

[idle ember]

I can't believe there's people on this planet with both font and coral and I have empty pockets and a stack of wasted bonus rolls.

[serene basin]

@desert vault you can start getting them once you turn in the 75 pearl quest (15 abyssal shards)

I think its 20 per mythic boss, 10 per heroic, and normal (?) not sure

[strange python]

Normal is 1, hc 10, mythic 20

[serene basin]

what a great idea to make it 1 for normal

with 8 bosses

thats some good math

[cobalt pelican]

it's been 1 for every tier hasn't it

[tardy ether]

@idle ember now after I got both I want to get rid off them, they're so annoying to play together

[cobalt pelican]

i guess it makes a bit less sense this tier since you specifically need to reach 200 for all pieces rather than just 200 per 1 piece

[stable yarrow]

45k club

[merry wraith]

Should I continue running my rank 2 Memory until I get condensed life up to rank 3, or run condensed even if it's rank 2?

[stable yarrow]

run whichever sims higher

[desert vault]

and here I thought I had the crap ready to make the goggle, but nope!

surprise, wait another month

[idle ember]

@tardy ether They sound like it, but it's something new to play with at least. I'm sitting here with a 440 Vision that my 395 Gift absolutely, utterly destroys.

[rigid mango]

Dps>annoying

[strange python]

According to herodamage and the essence sims, i see that rank 3 lucid sims higher than rank 2 life essence? So i assume going Lucid major and life minor is optimal?

[royal lantern]

life force gets a big part of its value at 3

[vestal wren]

you can sim it, dont forget that other minor essences might give a lower upgrade then lucid, that can make lucid minor with a other essence good too

[strange python]

Where the hell do i even sim my character with essences, raidbots doesn't support it, atleast i can't find it anywhere

[idle ember]

top gear @strange python

[misty tusk]

Finally! 244 tokens

[stable yarrow]

Gratss

[urban junco]

ye did it lad

[vestal wren]

nice