#assassination | Ravenholdt | Page 3371

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:29 PM

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dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 1:30 PM

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aight

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:30 PM

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dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 1:30 PM

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guess ill sell all the ones i made lmao

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bridled still sims better than agil pot tho 🤔

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Aight, F crit pots

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:38 PM

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they could be good

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and might be later

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 1:39 PM

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I was wondering if smth was up when they were simming 800 higher than any other pot

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Felt a bit over the top

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:39 PM

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new stuff should be better

dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 1:40 PM

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agil pot meaning the superior one yea?

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:41 PM

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id expect the crit pot to get fixed in a patch. seems too weak to me.

dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 1:41 PM

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well if it gives 5% not 20% its gonna get fixed

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:41 PM

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but the one thing i do know, anything you thing is OP or fun, will likely get nerfed.

dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 1:41 PM

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thats why wow got nerfed to this garbage then

winter gale Jun 30, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Yo yo. Can anyone tell me aproximately how much time it takes to obtain memory of lucid dreams?

dire spoke Jun 30, 2019, 1:53 PM

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@lone junco stop lying

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nayeongums

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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Im not even rogue main

dire spoke Jun 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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feelsabandonedman

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 1:54 PM

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rip

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pally days are here

tame basin Jun 30, 2019, 1:59 PM

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So guys what is the best pot ST atm for assa?

real bay Jun 30, 2019, 2:00 PM

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new agi it seems

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 2:03 PM

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the real q. does sim value the crit pot properly or not.

real bay Jun 30, 2019, 2:04 PM

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does it work properly in game

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 2:04 PM

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depends on what properly means.

dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 2:05 PM

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bridled sims about 500 dps better for me than superior agi

real bay Jun 30, 2019, 2:05 PM

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do what its supposed to xd

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 2:05 PM

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which one is bridled?

dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 2:05 PM

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shoots bolts inc on ur apm

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 2:07 PM

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Kimbul sims correct? Or something fishy? Havent kept up with the changes :p

mystic timber Jun 30, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Hey guys using memory of the lucid dream should I gen mastery and crit? Or haste still best stat?

dusty wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 2:13 PM

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mastery i believe

hollow stone Jun 30, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Yes. Kimbuls got buffed

tame cobalt Jun 30, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Anyone else have bugged tricks of trade? Every time i try to use it it says invalid target

cobalt pelican Jun 30, 2019, 2:17 PM

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neural/mounted/macro suk

tame cobalt Jun 30, 2019, 2:17 PM

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its used from spellbook

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on unmounted teammate

cobalt pelican Jun 30, 2019, 2:17 PM

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and they have no neural silencer?

tame cobalt Jun 30, 2019, 2:17 PM

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yes they dont have it

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Just tried removing my blue card from trinket that had it, and now it works. Thank you @cobalt pelican

empty badge Jun 30, 2019, 2:20 PM

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!weakauras

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 2:20 PM

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strange python Jun 30, 2019, 2:21 PM

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@hollow stone ty friend.

fading ocean Jun 30, 2019, 2:25 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

dusky tinsel Jun 30, 2019, 2:44 PM

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@marble hemlock you streaming anymore key testing today?

marble hemlock Jun 30, 2019, 2:45 PM

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id love to, but its soooo fucking warm

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38°

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im legit melting and can barely focus

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but 3ttk+deeper+lucid feels awesome

dusky tinsel Jun 30, 2019, 2:46 PM

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yeah it seemed pretty damn good, dont have a crown though so I'd only have access to 2ttk, 3eb, 1ss

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 2:46 PM

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BenisPog

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I like the sound of non-blood

marble hemlock Jun 30, 2019, 2:46 PM

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even the singletarget feels surprisingly smooth w/o vigor

dusky tinsel Jun 30, 2019, 2:46 PM

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you're only using lucid on bosses? dont think I saw you use it in AoE with all the ruptures you had out

marble hemlock Jun 30, 2019, 2:47 PM

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only if its 2 or 3 targets

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but yeah, generally holding it for bosses or to clean up a leftover high-hp mob

mystic charm Jun 30, 2019, 2:57 PM

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!wa

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 2:57 PM

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subtle aurora Jun 30, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Hey @marble hemlock by deeper did u mean deeper strategm?

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 3:14 PM

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@winter gale 2 days of doing all 3 follower dailies

winter gale Jun 30, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Ok

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Ty ty

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 3:21 PM

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@marble hemlock did you test blood essence too? So i assume you like lucid minor for myth+ and would continue to use it? Was hunted with sticks a few days ago when i said that 😄

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i lost the overview - are you guys using large agi pots now due to crit one only giving 5%? hard to keep track sometimes

marble hemlock Jun 30, 2019, 3:25 PM

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not a big fan of blood, no

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 3:27 PM

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good to know, was underwhelmed too, sounded a lot cooler than it is in the end

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thanks man

devout temple Jun 30, 2019, 3:28 PM

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so many more people playin sin in m+ now why

zenith gust Jun 30, 2019, 3:30 PM

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with MA you pop TB after vanish right? heard some people say to pop it before the banish right after vendetta

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 3:31 PM

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you can either do the "save version" with Tb in MA or "gamble" with Env - mut - env

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 3:32 PM

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@devout temple sin cleave doesnt require a cooldown, and vendetta /tb are good prio dmg. youll always be ready for anything.

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and when you are playing just 1ss, stealth isnt as big a deal.

visual quartz Jun 30, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Plus Sin is way more fun

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Stealth is still a big deal regardlesd of 1-3 ss, just because of the ramp up time until you can start pumping envenoms

visual quartz Jun 30, 2019, 3:35 PM

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skill = fun, faceroll gets old real fast

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 3:50 PM

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meh

runic kernel Jun 30, 2019, 3:58 PM

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So in pve we are aiming for 1-3x Nothing Personal and the rest Double Dose?

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 4:01 PM

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3x DD, NP/BB - maybe even TK if the azerit piece as a whole contributes to it. I don`t know how much/if the value of TK rises due to lucid and a possible switch in statweights towards mastery

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and SS for cleave fights/padding as it is now

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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There are similar number of cleave and st fights as there were in BoD as well

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:02 PM

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TTK isnt overly strong, for ST you'd almost always prefer NP over it

runic kernel Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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So do I aim to get an SS or no?

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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does insc trinket really sim that much or is that bug?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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The reason ttk is on "the bis lists" is because of the piece that has ttk has overwhelming power, which is so much stronger than any of the other inner trait

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Unless there are long phases of amp. damage that might not play well with Vendetta.

vernal fern Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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what is TTK?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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twist the knife

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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and the reason TtK is as good as it is in M+ is due to it being useful basically all of the time.

vernal fern Jun 30, 2019, 4:03 PM

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tbhanks

runic kernel Jun 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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So is getting a SS necessary?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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@hollow cloak Yes, its that good

royal torrent Jun 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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@runic kernel some people will swap fight by fight, if you want to be lazy, just run a SS with subt for everything

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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For ST? not at all, for cleave yes

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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@spice surge my guildmate said, its bugged at sims

runic kernel Jun 30, 2019, 4:04 PM

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I can swap for Mythic + and Raids.

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Got some proof of it being bugged?

runic kernel Jun 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Put SS on for Mythic + and not for raids.

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Maybe i read it wrong, which trinket were you talking about?

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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higborne compedium of sundering

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Oh mb then, i have no idea

royal torrent Jun 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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if raid fight is multi target, you'll prob want one SS for those fights as well, depending on priority / comp / etc

runic kernel Jun 30, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Otherwise 2x DD 1x NP is the goal?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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3x DD, 1 np, the rest is debateable

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You can fit a ss there if you want

runic kernel Jun 30, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Forgot you can get more than 3 powers now lol

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I just came back

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So you can have 6 spec ones right ?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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ye

jolly agate Jun 30, 2019, 4:08 PM

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!wa

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narrow orchid Jun 30, 2019, 4:14 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 4:14 PM

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narrow orchid Jun 30, 2019, 4:15 PM

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blood better for m+ ?

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compared to lucid

vernal fern Jun 30, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Maybe it depends on affixes idk

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 4:22 PM

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lucid has many perks, not nescessarily in AoE situations. I for now do prefer it and look forward to keep it as a minor. But lets see how it all plays out

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Lucid 3 ttk deeper seems like prio pump god tier

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With good st too

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Its strength isn't burst aoe like blood

fresh abyss Jun 30, 2019, 4:24 PM

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are there any cheap-ish worthwhile craftable gear items worth going after for sin?

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 4:25 PM

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did you guys use vigor or deeper for raids with lucid so far? any experiences?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Vigor

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I don't see reason to take deeper for raid

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:25 PM

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tunnelBoi

tribal marlin Jun 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I heard that insc trinket for shadowpriest is broken

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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The incsac?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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They tend to have a ton of haste so that makes sense.

tribal marlin Jun 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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inscription new trinkets

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Oh

tribal marlin Jun 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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so I was wondering if it was good for rogue actually

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since someone talk about it earlier

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I'm still so unsure about raid trinks either

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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There's a cap of the number of procs but I dunno.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Trinks seem up in the air

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Not sure about that, but with how wack some tooltips are, fuck if I know.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Idk, lurkers it is

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Isn't the insc trinket really low ilvl

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Compared to next raid content

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:34 PM

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400 ye

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but if the proc is good then it's good.

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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im just thinking is sim correct atm?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It probably is in this regard as the proc rates are a known value.

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Unless things have changed in game and there hasn't been an update yet.

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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im gonna try the trinket on uunat tonight but dummy tests seemed similar to sim

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around 5% overall dps

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Compendium of Storms is bonkers for SPriest however as it's basically just procs that makes them better.

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:36 PM

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@quasi pewter u streaming?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Whereas the AGI trinket is just DMG.

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It's 10ppm+Haste which is a lot, but the item level is a little low.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:36 PM

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What does each proc do?

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 4:37 PM

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might stream idk @hollow cloak

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55 neck is ready for blasting

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4ja9rsie6aaP6g1nVVU5iu

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hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:38 PM

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did u farm islands?

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 4:38 PM

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deeper strat

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so close to vigor

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damn

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:38 PM

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quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 4:39 PM

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SPAM monkahmm

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Someone asked angery

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 4:40 PM

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peophammer

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:40 PM

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angery 🖕

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Anyway, INT trinket is obviously good value for Haste users.

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Whereas the AGI DPS trinket is a DMG proc that scales with nothing we're doing, probably.

sick ledge Jun 30, 2019, 4:42 PM

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I don't see the alchemy trinket in the spreadsheet. Is it good ?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:42 PM

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I don't see any of them used tbh

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:42 PM

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It's VERS which isn't great + main stat which isn't great.

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So, meh.

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:42 PM

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still sims better than kimbul 415 with socket

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Like, mt just go spyglass/dice and st kimbuls seems better

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Bur idk

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Kimbuls is pretty good now afaik

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After the buffs

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Yeah will have to wait through Heroic week to see.

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We're probably Lurker's | Vision depending on your item levels.

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Dribbling is weird but I dunnnnoooo

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Vision? Didn't it get hard chunked?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Gonna have to give me those chunked numbers.

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It's still GCB levels of haste under 20% HP.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:45 PM

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HMM

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:45 PM

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and a 1min CD how is this OK?!

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:45 PM

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i would say maybe queens trinket is better than vision hmm

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:46 PM

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huh o _O

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Maybe.

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That's a tiny amount of Crit though.

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 4:47 PM

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2 min cd with vendetta hmm

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Channeling durinc pooling or smth idk

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2.5k agi during vend seems pretty good

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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So does 600 700 800 900 1000 1100 1200 1300 1400 1500 1600 haste > _>

flint star Jun 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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!Essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:52 PM

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That AGI is better earlier in the encounter though, for sure.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Hmm

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It might also come down to if we're running lucid major at the time or not

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Iirc it devalues haste a fair bit

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Well let's use my weights as they stand right now;

2500 AGI is worth 5825DPS

to get that much value you would need to get 1891 Haste

ha... > _>

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and that's with Lucid Ma/Mi

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Myeh

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I just don't see vision of demise being that good now

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Not using Lucid Major might boof Haste a little and be worth using something else as a Major if you have that trinket however.

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Dunno.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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It will, probs

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Iirc it kicked haste a fair bit

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Also ig depends on your haste already

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Course.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Did the inkpod count within the archtype of trinks that got buffed?

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Because if so it could be decent

lost tree Jun 30, 2019, 5:17 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 5:37 PM

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that's pretty goooood, maybe

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rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Comparing to?

grand plank Jun 30, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I thought Blood of the Enemy was going to be very strong. Is that not the case? The guide puts it at mid tier level.

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 5:38 PM

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comparible VIGOR and Kimbuls

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Hm

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 5:38 PM

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400VIGOR, 390 Kimbuls

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With like, 22% haste > _>

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and Lucid > _>

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 5:39 PM

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@grand plank It was significantly stronger on early ptr versions

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 5:39 PM

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The minor got gutted

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Probs why it's not as good

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 5:39 PM

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They reduced it before it went live, which is why everybody was talking about it but it seems mediocre now

grand plank Jun 30, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Ahh I see I wasn’t aware of that! I’m not a fan of PVP so honestly I’m ok with that haha

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 5:40 PM

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It used to be 15s of both the crit damage and the crit chance. Now its 10s of crit chance and 5s of crit damage

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Ye

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 5:40 PM

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And the minor used to be better too

grand plank Jun 30, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Ah damn yeah that’s a wild nerf

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Its still decent though, probably going to be the goto essence when we get high end aszhara gear (since it scales so well)

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But no need to hard farm it, just do a bg once in a while and you should be gucci

grand plank Jun 30, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Maybe get my daily win?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 5:42 PM

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More or less

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 5:42 PM

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0 and 12 eBGs btw

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WTFISTHISSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

grand plank Jun 30, 2019, 5:42 PM

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I heard a good honor forming method is the brawl but Jesus alliance can’t seem to win that lol

nocturne gate Jun 30, 2019, 5:55 PM

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s1 tryed ds in st

fleet whale Jun 30, 2019, 6:08 PM

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just got rank 2 of blood of the enemy. I'm just gonna take my time with rank 3 for now until the next bg weekly

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Just did a quick swap from outlaw to assa and curious if anyone could take a look at the sim and see if there's anything obvious im missing from what I already have that I should have equipped

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Link that shit

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9tEKv6MX4xRwDt9TYyyXmd

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civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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G I V E U S T H E D E E T S A L R E A D Y

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:13 PM

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sorry bout that

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:14 PM

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But u simmed

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I'm confused aPES_Hmmm

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:14 PM

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i did like 12 different sims - this was just the last one where i was simming some random talents and stuff

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Traits could be a little better, enchants on the "wrong" hand IMO (you're going to replace the 400 first), uhhh

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Traits are bis tho?

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aPES_Hmmm

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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For? BoD?

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CoS?

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Throne?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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ST in general

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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For all we know the trait will ACTUALLY lose stacks this time around and become worthless.

warm mulch Jun 30, 2019, 6:16 PM

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So, anyone noticed how the potion of focused resolve takes you out of stealth? bug or intended?

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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what'd you have in mind when you said "traits could be a lil better"

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i may have the traits you're referring to

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Probably intended, you don 't wanna be smacking shit without stacking the potion buff anyway.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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That's the best st focused azerite set up there is

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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If OP sticks, yes.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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The one you've got

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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yeah but the other guy said they could be a lil better

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Aye

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:18 PM

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so i was curious

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Well, op is still as good as every other trait

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On jaina

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:18 PM

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It's much more comparable that's for sure.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:18 PM

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I mean, did op lose a lot thanks to lucid major?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Not really by a lot since most of the time they dont overlap

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But a little probably ye

vagrant wigeon Jun 30, 2019, 6:20 PM

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is the rogue still the best dps cac ?

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:20 PM

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@civic palm what'd you mean by enchant on the wrong hand? I think force multiplier is stronger on off for some reason, at least for me - i simmed it on both

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:20 PM

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By how much?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:20 PM

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It doesnt matter which hand is on what

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Literally has 0 impact

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:21 PM

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word

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i have a ton of them, so not worried about having to replace it

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if that was the only reason you mentioned that

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:21 PM

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This thought was a thing for the entire expansion, people thought OHs had a higher proc rate, when it's been normalized for a long time.

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:21 PM

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i didn't have a thought on this - i just did it on the hand sim said it should go on when i did weapon enchant sim

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Yeah there's nothing to worry about there, just that you might have to re-enchant Force Multiplier while it's still pricy.

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:21 PM

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ah yeah i got a bunch of them

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@timber meadow Only thing i thought of is that your crit+haste gloves are marginally better than the vers+crit ones

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Otherwise it seems pretty good

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@spice surge yeah they are 25 dps better ha

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Extreme margins in that case.

misty tusk Jun 30, 2019, 6:22 PM

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What talents do you run for m+ this week?

vapid scarab Jun 30, 2019, 6:23 PM

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the exact same as every week

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you change traits, not talents

timber meadow Jun 30, 2019, 6:27 PM

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does lucid devalue haste a lil? Think before lucid i was stacking all haste gems if i remember correctly and now it has me stacking all mastery

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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ye

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:28 PM

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A little bit, but i was using mastery gems before it too

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Or rather, the major devaules haste, the minor doesnt really

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Yeah NP is pretty hawt.

white basalt Jun 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I gave away my 420 kimbuls. I am still using a 380 spy glass. Did I fuck myself?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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You did my dude

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Might as well upload that to Pornhub bud.

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Although theres probably good trinkets in aszhara anyway so shouldnt be much of an issue

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Yeah there's stuff in Palace, no biggy.

white basalt Jun 30, 2019, 6:30 PM

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But muh day 1 parses Toxic

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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TerraFukt

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Get a uhh, Incrip. trinket

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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just restore it

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Yeah just ask for it back from the dood 😛

shy axle Jun 30, 2019, 6:33 PM

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ah you gave away

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F

cinder sparrow Jun 30, 2019, 6:35 PM

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yo guys, crit pot or agi ?

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on ST ?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:38 PM

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AGI probably at this point I don't see the value in 5% crit for 20ish seconds if it functions in raids/dungeons as it does on dummies.

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Unclear if its the tooltip that is bugged or the effect itself peepostudy

cinder sparrow Jun 30, 2019, 6:39 PM

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ok thx

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Either way the way it works is shit atm, so, yeah.

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Just waiting that tooltip rework, or them changing the effect.

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It dropping stacks on ANY DMG done to other targets kills its' potential even further though.

polar cape Jun 30, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Rip fok spam ST funel

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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so inscr trinket does like half the dps that it does in sim for me

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pepehands

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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F

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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rip my 40k btw

daring trench Jun 30, 2019, 7:04 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

fierce violet Jun 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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where can I find info about essences?

edgy pawn Jun 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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literally above you

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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👀

fierce violet Jun 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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oh, god, I thought it's some sort of ad sites

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Why'd you think that?

dark crag Jun 30, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Putting ads on your discord bot. Thats some next lvl greedy stuff

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Eh it's a link shortener, you shouldn't really trust them > _>"

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 7:18 PM

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With Master Assassin and full Double Dose + Nothing Personal is it better Vanish + Envenom or Vanish + Toxic Blace?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Marginal either way.

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Oki thank u

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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SIM does Vanish TB in the opener, can't always have TB up during normal play afterwards.

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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@civic palm crit pot stacks to 10 for me on uunat every time right now

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it also takes me out of stealth, neat

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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That's not 20.

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:19 PM

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yea

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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~ _~

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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yesterday it was 5

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now 10

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tomorrow 15 ? pog

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Wait did it stack FOR YOU to 5 on UuU?

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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what

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Did it stack only to 5 for you as well on UuU?

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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no it stacks to 10

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Today you said.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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HMM

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This convo

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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yesterday when you tested

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it was 5

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no?

dark crag Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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It's random how high it can stack

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Right I was making sure whether YOU had seen the same thing in a Raid or not.

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:21 PM

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nah

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10

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every time

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so far when i looked

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:22 PM

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If it 's random then it went to 5 5 times in a row yesterday.

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Not random.

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@quasi pewter ty ty 👍

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:22 PM

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different for every player kekchamp

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:22 PM

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noty

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:22 PM

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brb making new character to get pot to 20

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Fucking seriously.

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lol

dark crag Jun 30, 2019, 7:23 PM

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The stackcount is equal to the force you apply to your keyboard pressing buttons

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:23 PM

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lol

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plugs in controller

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 7:23 PM

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xqcSlam

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Tyler1 Top DPS Inc.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 7:23 PM

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2EZ 100 stack ty vm

dark crag Jun 30, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Every 25 apm you get 5 stacks

outer kernel Jun 30, 2019, 7:50 PM

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hey guys got level 55 on neck today what 2 essence do u pref.

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 7:52 PM

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lucid major flame minor sims best for me

outer kernel Jun 30, 2019, 7:53 PM

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so raitbots works pretty good for 8.2 with the essence?

proud wren Jun 30, 2019, 8:03 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

proud wren Jun 30, 2019, 8:06 PM

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Okay so what should I be doing right now to get geared faster? I’m guessing rare farming in nazjatar to get pearls to upgrade benthic pieces

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Or no

topaz wasp Jun 30, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Heyo, anyone know whats up with the inscription trinket?? are the sims accurate for it?

dark crag Jun 30, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I would like a 55 neck, but i hate islands too much

frank leaf Jun 30, 2019, 8:14 PM

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whats the good shit

stable plinth Jun 30, 2019, 8:15 PM

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you shoulda pinged everyone my dude

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thats the real strat

frank leaf Jun 30, 2019, 8:15 PM

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@everyone whats the good shit

stable plinth Jun 30, 2019, 8:17 PM

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rock boi is good and lucid on st

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Also that doesn't work, so, yeah.

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o _o

📎 unknown.png

void bough Jun 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

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is the assa guide up to date for essences by chance

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

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There will likely be changes going into Mythic Raid release, get everything you can at Level 1 and poke around a bit yourself for now.

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Exists as an overview but things are subject to change.

void bough Jun 30, 2019, 8:27 PM

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thanks ^_^ i mainly pvp so if lucid dreams was the go id save so much time haha

grave elk Jun 30, 2019, 8:33 PM

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so for the followers in najatar.. should i use one only? or get all of em to lvl 10 for lucid rank 3? thought i heard thats how you get rank 3

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i just got my neri to rank 6

scenic torrent Jun 30, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Not sure how much trust bloodmallet sims trinket

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But inscription one is miles ahead, go buy if its cheap before they overprice it.

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Some people have said that they are getting some 50% of the simulated damage.

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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I've got this trinket and it's really average

scenic torrent Jun 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Yeah, that is why I am saying not sure how much to trust it.

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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pretty sure sim is not correct

scenic torrent Jun 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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But on my server its 9K atm. Thats nothing.

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So bought it to try xD

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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10k on mine, but I wouldn;t buy it

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unless you want to test it urself

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Though honestly if it's still like 2% of your damage that's on par with pretty much everything else.

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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on sim it's miles ahead of 425 lurker

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which imo is impossible after playing with it for few hours.

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Ye

scenic torrent Jun 30, 2019, 8:41 PM

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ur probably right

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friend was on raid with it

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did only 3% cca

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 8:41 PM

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still not a bad trinket, just not as good as lurker/spyglass/dice/plumage

jovial cedar Jun 30, 2019, 8:49 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

white basalt Jun 30, 2019, 8:52 PM

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400 ill one better than 380 spyglass?

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I'm sentimental to my spyglass xD

crystal pilot Jun 30, 2019, 8:52 PM

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i have lucid dreams simming higher for both m+ and raid, anyone else reflecting the same?

round harbor Jun 30, 2019, 8:55 PM

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https://gyazo.com/a95e87998c533d1b7d7eecdd39df92d4

Gyazo

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lmao

crystal pilot Jun 30, 2019, 8:56 PM

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oof

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horrible time to get that

gloomy steppe Jun 30, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Which bracers do I want to upgrade? These https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=167766/fathomstalker-wristwraps
or these
https://ptr.wowhead.com/item=170330/neris-wavebreaker-bindings

Wowhead

Fathomstalker Wristwraps

This epic leather armor of item level 385 goes in the "Wrist" slot. Added in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth. Always up to date with the latest patch.

Wowhead

Neri's Wavebreaker Bindings

This epic leather armor of item level 385 goes in the "Wrist" slot. Added in World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth. Always up to date with the latest patch.

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 9:00 PM

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!essences

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Are we going to switch essences for specific bosses in EP?

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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guys is it just residuum that scales with m+ level or ap too?

lethal heart Jun 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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wanna say ap too

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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and next week do week get 8.2 amount of residuum or is it as much as before

lethal heart Jun 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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think we will get big residuum once mythic week releases

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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i'm trying to think if it's worth doing a super high key

lethal heart Jun 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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on the day of mythi release

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 9:02 PM

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out of time

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just for the extra

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k ty

hollow stone Jun 30, 2019, 9:03 PM

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High key this week is meh but will get you a high key for next week when it matters

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Cause then you can get a high key for first week of the season

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 9:05 PM

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touche

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200iq

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!wa

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Assassination WA's for BFA:
https://wago.io/HJUbINlV7 (Mizerok's Group)
https://wago.io/E1EB91OtM (Lokkek's Group)
https://wago.io/SyLUNGD4X (Sovv's Group)
https://wago.io/SJLQKGjMM (Afenar's Group)
https://wago.io/ByzCxPq-m (Devlin's Group)

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:13 PM

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what essence is best for assa?

civic palm Jun 30, 2019, 9:14 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Anyone tried out the new Insc trinket?

stable plinth Jun 30, 2019, 9:21 PM

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Its good

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But you can only have 1 of them right now on a boss

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So its ass until that gets fixed

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:21 PM

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It seems nerfed as hell tho, the dmg value on the trinket shows 1/3 of what it says on wowhead

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 9:28 PM

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how have you guys been spending your pearls not including the profs bench

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just boosting benthic that has a socket?

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is there anything else it'd rly be good for

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:29 PM

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so lucid dream gonna be best for assa?

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:29 PM

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i rolled for cloak for murloc daily and belt for the one with dps increase against aberrations with socket

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:30 PM

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or do i read that wrong

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 9:30 PM

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oh nice sary

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:30 PM

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@fathom wyvern the minor yes, major no

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For the time being it's the best major, but that's not why we take it

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When life force rolls around, we'll probs swap out the major for that, and only take lucid's minor

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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but atm i have concentrated flame, lucid and worldvein resonance

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then i should run lucid right?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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ye

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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and combo it with vendetta?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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And at 55 you can run Flame major and lucid minor

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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You use the major

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Whenever sub 50 energy

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Regardless of syncing

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Ah

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Normally 10-15 sec into vend

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Further w BL

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 9:33 PM

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So when raid opens and we are at 55, we run minor lucid but what major?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Life force

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When we get it

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probably

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Flame until then

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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I've seen R3 sims of shit that should be taken w a grain of salt

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Or Blood of the enemy if you have it rank 3

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Is there any set bis trinkets for assa or just sim?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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That aren't entirely indicative of it

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More or less sim, lurker is bis

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Normally paired with dice/spyglass/kimbuls

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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I saw the trinket sim of the new Insc trinket was pretty damn good

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Yeah idk if it's bugged

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Or broken

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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But it seems like they nerfed the dmg value by 66%

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Already?

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Good shit.

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Shows so much more on wowhead than ingame

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:35 PM

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i swapped it out after a few tries

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did like 50% of the sim

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Same for the crit pot I suppose

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F trink

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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crit pot is fucking weird

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pulls you out of stealth

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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lol

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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gives up to 10% crit

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on uunat

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and open world it gives up to 5%

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???

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Idk

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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What, ain't it 20% crit?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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WACK

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No

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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i checked like 15 times today on uunat

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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But we don't know why

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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it was never over 10

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:36 PM

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If it's buggee

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:37 PM

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wierd stuff

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Or working weirdly

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:37 PM

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always stacked to 10 and then stayed like that

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Or smth

quasi pewter Jun 30, 2019, 9:37 PM

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and open world it only stacks to 5

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dummys etc

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Whats the best traits for m+ you think now that aoe isnt gonna be everything?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Still ss/eb/ttk

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Aoe need isn't affected muxh

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

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3x ttk seems juicy

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

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No one cares about reaping dmg, it's just pad

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

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for new season

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:38 PM

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3ttk deeper with lucid

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Is what seli's been runninf

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Saying it's really nice

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Ima try it out tmr

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Shit sounds/looks juicy

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:39 PM

#

I got a kinda rip setup if I'm running 3x ttk

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Gonna be 3x ttk 2x Ss and 1 eb

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:39 PM

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That's fine

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:39 PM

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just wished it was 2x eb instead of ss

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Esp for kr/tos

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Yeh

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:40 PM

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alot of tanks I run with just say fuck your stealth and chain pulls

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I'll be running w 2 eb

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Do anyone know if the Dribbling Inkpod trinket gets dmg increase from TB?

spice surge Jun 30, 2019, 9:42 PM

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The thing that tilts me the most about chain pulling is that its fine as long as they do it properly, but most pugs dont

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If they chain pull when mobs are at like 35% and have ruptures on its fine

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If they chain pull when mobs have 2% that shit blows

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:43 PM

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^my tanks

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:43 PM

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1 dude left dying 2 sec after new aggro PepeLaughing

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🔫

marble hemlock Jun 30, 2019, 9:45 PM

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i love me some chainpulls if theyre done properly

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no ramp

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just blast

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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how many EB traits are needed for m+?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:46 PM

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a proper chain pull is poghypers

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A bad chain pull is Reeeee

marble hemlock Jun 30, 2019, 9:47 PM

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you dont really need any EB, its just a good trait for aoe

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if no one else is doing proper aoe in the grp, then id suggest running atleast 1, ideally 2

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3eb is really only worth for giga aoe pulls and high fortified kes like freehold or motherlode

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:49 PM

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It feels nice in islands farming with 3x eb and lucid dreams

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just fan of knives spam feelsgoodman

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

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any rotation guides btW?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

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!guide

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

#

Assassination Guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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wait, if i dont run ss trait it doesnt matter if i go into stealth or not?

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oh nvm ofc it does, i run subterfurge

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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can some 1 tell me what traits i wanna stack for m+

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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You always run 1 ss

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Scroll up day

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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sims tells me not to run ss tho

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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so 3 ss for m+

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and 1 eb ?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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For ST? Ye, you wanna run master assassin 3x DD, for cleave and m+ you want SS @fathom wyvern

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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sim tells me to run 3x NP, 2x DD and 1x TWK

stable plinth Jun 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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for m+?

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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for st dmg

stable plinth Jun 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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What

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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im switching from outlaw so imt rying to find out whats best

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do i even have any bis pieces https://gyazo.com/b1c984fde4fee7a3a30ca67c3efbc1a5

Gyazo

loud kelp Jun 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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anyone still have that excel with the openers?

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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So assuming we are lvl 55 Neck and run minor Lucid, what other essence will be best that is obtainable until the raid opens considering the level of essence we can unlock until then?

drifting cloud Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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@honest needle bis helm, shoulders, good chest

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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for aoe or raid ?

drifting cloud Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

#

st

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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i want for m+

crisp steppe Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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yeah it only sucks if the mobs have super low health and the tank is just doing useless chainpulling

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Bis helm at 405

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Ye

drifting cloud Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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oh there were 2 I didnt see both were 405

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<.<

crisp steppe Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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like should let healer drink instead or chainpull earlier 😛

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Idd

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@loud kelp openers are in the guide

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And wx probs flame

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Before swapping to life

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If not bloof if u farmed it

karmic kite Jun 30, 2019, 9:58 PM

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are we supposed to be using ttk now with lucid dream essence?

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for ST

fathom wyvern Jun 30, 2019, 9:58 PM

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so as assa when i get my vendetta back up, do i use it right on cd or save it for vanish to combo vanish garrote + vendetta?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Sims say np still better afaik

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Ttk is for sure good

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Bloodmallet and Herodamage both say Lucid Major will be best for single target until we obtain Blood (3), Flame (3), or Life-Force (3), or am I missing anything? Since bosses are not singletarget, what major essence will we be using most in Eternal Palace?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Lucid major until your get 1st minor

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Then you can probally go flame major and lucid minor

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 9:59 PM

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R3 sims say life major + lucid minor

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 9:59 PM

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unless you have blood R3 then you can go blood majro lucid minor

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

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so none of the gear i have is good for m+ ?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Once you get life you use it, unless they nerf it

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or well

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you need to get it up in ranks first

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rank 1 life sucks

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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@honest needle not really

lapis knoll Jun 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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!Essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:03 PM

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So we will be using life force major and lucid minor for most bosses in the raid? No other essence we will swap in for specific mythic bosses during progression?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:03 PM

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only life force rank 3 tho

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:05 PM

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So what are the most important essences we should work on until raid opens?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Flame

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Probs

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Ye

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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I'll get 60 before mythic for sure

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Probs before hc tbh

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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I'm prob going for 60 before mythic, cba before hc

drifting cloud Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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zine I thought you havent even logged this patch

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Gonna get 56 this week then prob 59 next week

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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I aint

drifting cloud Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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60 in 10 days monkaW

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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In airport on the way home now

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

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So we should aim for AP to get 58 before raid opens and play Flame Major + Lucid Minor and then swap in Life-Force asap on rank 3, yeah?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

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omegalul

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Dw I'll get it

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Is it worth to grind BotE?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Meh

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

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You either stop at 57 before raid or go for 60

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

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^

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Old guldie is 58 i think

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Eu too

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:08 PM

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BotE rank 3 is gonna be better in the start as major if you're not 60 azerite

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:08 PM

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pretty good for m+ too

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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wait why stop at 57 when flame rank 3 requirement is 58?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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I should prob farm it myself

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But pvp farming is so PepeHands

distant lava Jun 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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doesn't flame suck ?

lean coral Jun 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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its pretty quick with the bg week bonus

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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flame rank 3 is 60

lean coral Jun 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

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if you're gonna do it this is the week

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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I should prob do it tomorrow and tuesday then

lean coral Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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at 39k/50k atm

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well bonus is gone tuesday

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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EU man here

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So wednesday for me

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=291243/patch-8-2-rise-of-azshara-all-heart-of-azeroth-essence-abilities-and-sources#guardian-of-azeroth
here it says 58, maybe outdated tho

Wowhead

Patch 8.2 Rise of Azshara All Heart of Azeroth Essence Abilities a...

With the 8.2 PTR live, we now get to see all the Heart of Azeroth Essences in Patch 8.2 Rise of Azshara and how to unlock them -- including unlocks from Mythic+, Rating Requirements, Raiding, Operation: Mechagon, Island Expeditions, Nazjatar Questing, Reputation and more!

nimble tartan Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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do it as merc mode as well

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easy honor

lean coral Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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AH

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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do you get more as merc?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

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ingame it says 60, so outdated ye

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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unlucky

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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how many epic BGs is 50k honor?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Dunno, a lot

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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like 50?

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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no

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more

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like 75min

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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ooof

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Yeh that's what I'd guess

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

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more like 100

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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well, guess I'm not running BotE for m+ then feelsgoodman

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Meh

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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farm normal bg's, you get the best out of it,m after you done epic BG quests

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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I'm going seli route

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Fuck bote

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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What's seli route?

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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srsly

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Any fuck bote route is a route for me

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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just do your daily wins

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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3 ttk deeper lucid

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:12 PM

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and your done in like 2-3 weeks

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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What's deeper?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Screw bote bec we don't need more aoe

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Deeper strat

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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aah

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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For them juicy

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Was looking for an essence called deeper x)

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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6 cp env

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Ah

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Nah just insane prio pump

nimble tartan Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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bote is the pad essence bro

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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That sounds good in new season

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Might be amazing for beguiliing

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Aye

nimble tartan Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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do u really need bote AND fan of knives trait bro...

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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bs...

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if you go higher keys 70% of what you do is spam fok anyway

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Hm

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I think ur gravely mistaken

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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sure depends on the week aswell, but every forti week is aoe as much as possible

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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How to play sin

rough charm Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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what you guys think of 3x NP and 3x TtK for st?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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having a boy with insane prio dmg is gonna be nice

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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It's really not just that smile

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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you have been the one saying to me, ttk is useless in m+

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Me?

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Wot

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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now u talking big about ttk, whats the matter with you

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I praise ttk

rough charm Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Ttk can be strong bro

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Always have

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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it is

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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For like, months

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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but u still spamm Fok+envenom

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Zine's middle name is TTK

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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so alot of your dmg will be about aoe

nimble tartan Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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so that new trinket simming hot not good? should i tell my boys they just got some

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Zi ttk ne

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Yes

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Is me

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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so bote is not only about padding

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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You mean inscription trinket @nimble tartan ?

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

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just not true

nimble tartan Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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yee

raven locust Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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I was just about to ask on that trinket too

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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It seems to be nerfed quite alot already

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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I mean bote is literally playing into the 3 eb degeneraye playstyle

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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And I've heard rumours about a bug with it

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Of mongo gameplay

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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So I'd hold on with getting it

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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it is, so its a pretty good essence for m+ tho

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iam not talking about all kinds of weeks levels and affixes

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

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But I don't see that aoe being necessary

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When u have

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EB

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

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If you really lack AoE, bote and 3x EB is gonn be nice

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Arguably the best aoe trait in the game

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It's just nuts

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I would love to find a way to play non mongo rok

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Fok*

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Idm it, but it's more fun to play w brain switched on

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:18 PM

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but thats the point right, if you doing like a 20+ ML, freehold or whatever "lol 2028304 years of trash aoeing"

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Yeah sure

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Cool

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Fh and Ml

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The most trash heavy dungeons were 3 eb is the legit best thing

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:18 PM

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thats my point

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it will be one of the best essences for some dungeons and affixes

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.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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You mean bote 3 eb in 2 dungeons?

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Sure

devout gazelle Jun 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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guys why this new 400 inscription trinket sims so much broken than many other 410+

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Every other week, for 2 dungrons

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You play bote

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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i guess it will be alot more

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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And every other? That's what I'm trying to find

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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but hey, i dont change my mind like you do. i remember you arguing the first day why you would NOT take bote in m+

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Yeah, well then I talked to seli

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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the same reason why you take aoe heavy classes

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I didn't see any other way

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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for every dungeon, where you pull tons of trash

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Then he told me what he was running

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Man

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Imagine

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If ignorance isn't bliss

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FeelsThinkingMan

wide hedge Jun 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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so did something change with zandalar racials or still trash and I have to stay on paku? 😄

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Imagine if PRE THE SEASON things could change in PURE TC stuff?

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Wow, shocker.

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Paku still best @wide hedge

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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you have been the one

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talking down on people, not me

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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?

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Im new to this game, how tf do i play rogue lol

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I said bote seemed like the best because I didn't see a better option

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Someone showed me a possible betyer option

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ @ebon brook

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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who cares, your arrogance just makes me puke

cobalt pelican Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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you must decide on your religious affiliation on the first week of patch launch

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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That looks fun and interesting

cobalt pelican Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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and stand by it till you die

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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thx

cobalt pelican Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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otherwise you are a heathen

grizzled crypt Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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go get some seli dick ;D

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Your ignorance makes me puke

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Man

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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this drama is spicy 🍿

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Changing opinions on anything monkaSweat

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Before the content's even out

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Scary, really.

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When ur better than seli, I'l suck your dick til i die

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:23 PM

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It's not allowed to change opinions Zine, even tho you might have found something better and more fun to play! 😠 /s

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:23 PM

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But doubt

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Yeah man

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Heresy!

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Burn the betrayer 🔥

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Idd

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:24 PM

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How should i set my key bindings

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Comfy keys on major rotational abilities

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Utility on rest

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Yeah im new to everything your saying because i dont understand

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Just use the key bindings you like for the abilities

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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You knew ro the game or rogue?

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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okay

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Everyone got their own opinion on what to click

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Im new to the game

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Ah

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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I got to level 120 rogue

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Just set up the buttons you often press on the comfier keybinds you have

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Most core abilites you want to be able to click without moving your hand

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Garrote, mutilate, rupture, envenom, toxic blade

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Fan of knivew

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Don't forget fan of knives Kappa

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fuck wrong kappa

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:26 PM

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2EZ

harsh sphinx Jun 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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🍿

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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How do people move so fast while also pressing buttons!

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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You can hold in left and right mouse button to move

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Only straight

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

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jeez im so confused about essence values for raid... not really sure what I should commit on right now until raid opens :x

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

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just turn the mouse to change directions

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

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@atomic saddle safe bet is flame

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

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@atomic saddle If you're not farming pvp, go flame major lucid dreams minor

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Just grind azerite

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Get yourself r2/3 flame, and be set

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I go whatever I dont mind if its pvp or Ap grind I just want to get the best thing possible

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Do casual bgs for r2 blood if u want it

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Flame is the best, I think

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I don't see a better one

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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r2 flame > r2 blood

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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^

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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need r3 blood for it to be better

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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And r3 is a pain

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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ye

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Tbf r3 flame aint fun either

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But much less iq

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:29 PM

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r3 flame just happens normally

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Don't need to go out of your way

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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And more chill, I'll just banter on disc whilst doing 10 hours of islands

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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or well, if you're a pvper r3 blood also happens normally

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Idd

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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same

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And put on shit music

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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FeelsOkHand

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Then you'll be tilted on the music instead of the endless island grind

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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is any of the gear i have good for m+ https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

Raidbots

Top Gear - Raidbots

Find the top gear combinations from your bags

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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And when you do dread chain, bring sunglasses

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Literally a link to the top gear

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My dude

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You need to screenshot it

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Or smth

neat totem Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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wrong link lol

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Whats a macro

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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https://gyazo.com/ecf445162b6814f11566bd31addf99b4

Gyazo

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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You can put several commands into one button

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Stat wise, crit mastery, azerite ttk/eb/ss, trinkets lurker/plumage + dice/spyglass

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Like popping a trinket along with an ability for example

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So instead of hitting two buttons you hit 1

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You can also do commands where you'll use the ability at the target you mouseover etc.

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:33 PM

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How do i setup macros

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:33 PM

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./macro

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 10:33 PM

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so we are using lucid and flame forever until we get 50000 honor?

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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https://www.wowhead.com/making-a-macro-commands-modifiers-warcraft-guide @ebon brook

Wowhead

Macro Guide

In this guide, we will go over the basics of macros and how to start creating your own macros in WoW! We also list the most popular macro constructions so you can build more advanced macros by yourself.

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Thanks

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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So considering Boss design you will still do best with Flame + minor lucid until r2 Force to replace Flame?

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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@strange python blood isn't even that good

#

Just ok

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Rank 3 life force replaces flame

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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ah okie

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Not rank 2

strange python Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 PM

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i didnt see life force on the guide

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:35 PM

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PSA: GET FLAME/BLOOD RANK3 + LUCID R2 FOR RAID OPEN

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Pick one, play it

#

Both are similarly good

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:36 PM

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BotE will not heavily outperform Flame on bosses where you have more than one target?

gray abyss Jun 30, 2019, 10:38 PM

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how does assassination look in next mythic + season?

#

compared to outlaw

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Nobody knows how it's going to be until the season comes

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:38 PM

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All we know

gray abyss Jun 30, 2019, 10:38 PM

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ofcourse but i thought it was out on ptr

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:39 PM

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It's eirher best spec

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Or 2nd best

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:39 PM

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There might still come live changes from ptr

gray abyss Jun 30, 2019, 10:40 PM

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hmm true

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:40 PM

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hmm, gotta do 90 islands tomorrow to hit 56. PepeHands

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:41 PM

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I aint even touched patch yet

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Time to go hard xqcSlam

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:41 PM

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just remember to use doubloons for reputation

#

ez paragons

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:41 PM

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aPES_Hmmm you can do that now?

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BenisPog

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:41 PM

#

ye

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Neat.

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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100 doubloons = 250 rep

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Sounds great

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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with one of the 3 major reps or tortollan

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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90 islands.. tomorrow?

#

Ive probably done 15 islands total.

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I'll do islands entire tmr

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After I do dailies

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Think I've done 130 or so this patch

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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How does Flame do compared to BotE when there is more than 1 target? Thinking of Bosses in EP

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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imagine doing islands

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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This is benjovu

#

Old guildie

#

He's 58 neck

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Pepelove

hollow cloak Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uVAUTp6v2rqXZsxdsXVw5x wait what versa sims best atm for me

Raidbots

Stat Weights - Yinzen - 33,005 DPS - Raidbots

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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actually 56, can you relax

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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PES_Love

tiny arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Nothing else to really do until heroic week opens

#

Then it's m+ spam

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Wait

#

What are these beta numbers ben

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Peperain

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I thought u were a real man

#

I'll catch u this week

#

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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im still going, you wont catch me

ionic arrow Jun 30, 2019, 10:44 PM

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I wanna switch to assa and right now I am using elvui nameplates. The Problem: its kinda irritating with all the bleeds and poisons on each nameplate, I feel like its just too much. how do you guys handle this? 😦

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:44 PM

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I'm fast tho

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peepoRun

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Outlaw died

remote oak Jun 30, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Any idea which benthic pieces are worth upgrading first

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Boots with crit damage

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(Prioritise socket first though)

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Waist w abberation dmg for 2 of the bosses and crit dmg feet

remote oak Jun 30, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Got it

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Yeh, socket

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:46 PM

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I wanna see some sims for assa bois, show me

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 10:47 PM

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Whaddaya wanna see

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:47 PM

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https://gyazo.com/5f95a4fc9bd618a616a9bea4191cc10c PepeHands

Gyazo

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wanna see what people are simming for

dense junco Jun 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

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any sims on the new weapon enchants? any consensus on which is best?

harsh sphinx Jun 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

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seems 32-35k is the ballpark atm

daring olive Jun 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

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aight cheers Pepelove

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Is there one place where you can see all the pvp items and shit for BFA

atomic saddle Jun 30, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Is there any kind of spreadsheet that goes over best essences for each boss of EP?

vapid scarab Jun 30, 2019, 10:54 PM

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dude the raid is literally not even out yet

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Like where i can buy pvp items too

vapid scarab Jun 30, 2019, 10:55 PM

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what pvp items

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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I dunno

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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they just drop from boxes during wins

ebon brook Jun 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Im new to this game, is there one spot that has pvp item vendors or something

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k

lone junco Jun 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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at least they did last year.

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try #pvp for other stuff

vapid scarab Jun 30, 2019, 10:57 PM

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there are no pvp vendors anymore

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not for 2 xpacs now

cobalt pelican Jun 30, 2019, 10:58 PM

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yeah you either get loot at the end of an activity (bg arena) or it comes from a box you get at the end of an activity

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 11:17 PM

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will ap catch up mechanics come back ? since neck went up

raven locust Jun 30, 2019, 11:18 PM

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AK started again at the beginning of the week

honest needle Jun 30, 2019, 11:25 PM

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so the catch up mechanic is back in place

vapid scarab Jun 30, 2019, 11:25 PM

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it's been in place

shy dust Jun 30, 2019, 11:37 PM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jun 30, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

stuck knoll Jun 30, 2019, 11:38 PM

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We got 4 weeks free when 8.2 dropped

cedar kelp Jun 30, 2019, 11:54 PM

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so whats up with these inscription trinkets

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 11:55 PM

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Seems broken

cedar kelp Jun 30, 2019, 11:55 PM

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I'm hearing alot about them

rigid mango Jun 30, 2019, 11:55 PM

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probably getting nerfed

keen laurel Jun 30, 2019, 11:59 PM

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the sims are wrong.

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they're simming as if the explosion does 17k damage

rigid mango Jul 1, 2019, 12:00 AM

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Check #tc-research

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:00 AM

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it does 4-5k

red saddle Jul 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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!essence

prisma monolithBOT Jul 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Assassination Essences overview: https://bit.ly/2XaZOVd

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:02 AM

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hm

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doubt they'll let it be that strong if the sim is correct

nimble tartan Jul 1, 2019, 12:03 AM

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fuck lost rank 1 uunat to a spriest smh....

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nerf spriest..

atomic saddle Jul 1, 2019, 12:11 AM

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any suggestions what I can do to maximize performance when new raid opens? LIke farm waist/boots of benthic gear or another essences beside flames to switch for bosses with add prio?

vapid scarab Jul 1, 2019, 12:14 AM

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benthic gear is a huge waste of time

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just get all the essences you can as high of a rank as you can and get as high AP as you can if you really want to grind

atomic saddle Jul 1, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I just checked bosses on PTR and I'm not sure how well Flame will perform on multiple target fight compared to BotE or other ones you can get pre-raid

vapid scarab Jul 1, 2019, 12:20 AM

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just get all the essences you can as high of a rank as you can```

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:23 AM

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I wouldn't say benthic gear is a waste of time, depends on your gear level.

remote oak Jul 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Sockets are huge too

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Sockets are ridiculously overpowered right now, and you can get almost heroic-equivalent pieces with sockets.

atomic saddle Jul 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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@vapid scarab tbh that sounds like a huge waste of time and I doubt I have time to grind BotE r3 and level my neck to 60, and I'm pretty sure there are ppl that are way more aware of what will be good in the new raid because I am not that much into theory crafting.

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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My 401 rogue sims like this http://prntscr.com/o8sqoe

Lightshot

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Captured with Lightshot

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sockets are insane rn

remote oak Jul 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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7 gems

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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probably worth 25'ish ilvls

remote oak Jul 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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oml

vapid scarab Jul 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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just get all the essences ***you can*** as high of a rank as ***you can***```

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:25 AM

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ye

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benthic gear

vapid scarab Jul 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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you asked what you can do to maximize performance for the raid, that's what you can do

keen laurel Jul 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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like, heroic pieces with good stats+sockets will beat mythic pieces without sockets if blizzard doesn't nerf

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60 stats is practically a third set of stats on an item

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@atomic saddle What level do you raid at? Just out of curiosity

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If you're at heroic-early mythic maybe, then definitely work on the crafted gear and benthic gear, you'll be able to get bis stats+sockets really easily with benthic gear up to 425, which is 5 ilvls shy of heroic raid gear

wild stone Jul 1, 2019, 12:35 AM

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sorry to interject.. but is there a ruling yet on which pots to use for sin ST/cleave?

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Also 'blood of the enemy rank 2' is simming higher than 'memory of lucid dreams rank 1', even though herodmg and bloodmallet show 'lucid dreams rank 1' sooo much higher

atomic saddle Jul 1, 2019, 12:44 AM

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@keen laurel Im raiding in a top 1k guild ~

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2 days per week

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nothing special but always trying to get the most out of my character

vapid scarab Jul 1, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Ok so a very casual mythic guild

strange python Jul 1, 2019, 12:48 AM

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How come benthic gears a huge waste of time @vapid scarab ? 😦

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I've not started yet and was looking forward to having stuff to upgrade

bleak spoke Jul 1, 2019, 12:49 AM

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man what

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it's not a huge waste of time

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if you don't have better gear it's probably good?

vapid scarab Jul 1, 2019, 12:50 AM

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If you want to grind all day for a very specific piece that will maybe be a 100 dps increase for 1 or 2 weeks then by all means

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I’m talking about grinding the belt or boots for “BiS” pre raid gear

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Not gearing up an alt or filling up a low slot