fallow estuary
Tripple EB+SS will be so much fun
#assassination
strange python
I have 3xSS 2xEB. And I find sin better than outlaw. I am going fine in M+ . The higher the keys the better it feel to be honest
unkempt tangle
Thanks @rose perch.
Main question is on https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bNKFfxyzcwCJGW2k#type=damage-done&fight=9, our blockade HC kill yesterday.
Outside of the fail prepot I'm quite confused as to why I'm so low in the ranks, especially compared to the other 2 rogues.
From what I saw I could work better on bleed uptime (93%) though I'm not the worst of the 3 rogues. EP is 68%, not sure whether that's average or not
rose perch
EP uptime definitely not something to worry about no
keeping bleeds up is a good thing to aim for for sure
especially without Subterfuge or Shrouded or Exsang, you have little reason to ever let them drop off
you did a good job of not mutilating at 4+ combo points
hasty hamlet
What are the stats as assa rogue for raid still haste>crit>versa>mastery
quick ice
is always the better option
solemn dune
so shrouded is no longer mandatory ? dd is better ?
thin patio
@unkempt tangle at 6:54 you did wrong MA rotation
real bay
for pure st dd is likely better but sim
thin patio
not much but better than nothing ^^
rose perch
@unkempt tangle yeah that last vanish is a problem
and missing prepot hurts a bit too
real bay
got 3x 400 DD it does mad on st
rose perch
getting more real azerite will help you keep up with the other rogues too
thin patio
True yikes !
rose perch
also ofc you may know this but there are +37 stat enchants for rings if you want to squeeze out an extra half a gem
real bay
killed 3 bosses and simdps went up 2k lol, azerites are big
hallow walrus
@solid nova Did you try this? I did exactly this and tried to fly over there. 1) fatigue would kick in before reaching bloodmyst isle 2) i flew against an invisible wall, got dismounted and fell into the water
solid nova
Apparently he teleports you there
quick ice
ypou can't fly to bloodmyst
solid nova
I just googled it for you and copy/pasted what people confirmed was true
quick ice
its in a different zone
quick ice
there's a boat that takes you once you're in the correct phase
(I think its still a boat)
unkempt tangle
@rose perch uh true xD thanks for the tips. I got 400 azerite head from blockade so traits should be better now :)
@thin patio thanks for the tips !
rose perch
grats!
hallow walrus
Ok i have to test this again. I talked to him this morning "like, let me see the old Darkshore", but i didnt find a boat or something (this was coming to Auberdine, right?)
i didnt see him having a teleport option, might check again in the evening
solid nova
Yeah so he takes you back in time
And it should be accessible that way
Apparently at least
Read a reddit post and the wowhead npc comments said the same so i assume its fine
hallow walrus
ok, will do, thanks mate
regal chasm
is there a point at which Exsang becomes better than Toxic Blade? like at a particular haste/crit %
or is it just the type of damage that is required
sustain vs Burst
unkempt tangle
I think it's with SS that it becomes better. At least on my Sims, with 2 SS exs is better
verbal mantle
Yes, SS does a lot of work in that case
regal chasm
and correct me if im wrong but most BoD pieces have DD instead of SS
onyx rock
And more fun
regal chasm
ive only recently come back @verbal mantle so im havnt looked at all of em
regal chasm
might be interesting on non Bursting weeks @strange python
verbal mantle
Didnt test it yet Braxoo, but i will definetly try it out
onyx rock
I did yes... but i didnt like it tbh. On big pulls its fun yes but you dont have any boss dmg and you are not very versatile
If you dont have any SS I would farm m0 or something to get one
strange python
I have 3xSS so the idea was not for myself. It was more a general question based in the idea to burst Reaping asap
regal chasm
i have 1 SS
vast forum
Ma with 3 eb is amazing on some dungeons fortified
tiny vapor
EB is great for Reaping imho
onyx rock
it's certainly cool for reaping, but remember, reaping is just a small part of m +. There are other classes that can take over
regal chasm
i can see UH DK and Ele sham doing Major DMG
i just realized...
Motherlode with reaping......
Eww
obsidian sierra
I was running 14 td yesterday with 2 ss 2 eb 1 sob 1 muti (due to unoptimal azerite) and pulled around 40-50k on aoes and it was my first reaping dungeon so i didnt know how to time everything and optimize
regal chasm
i do feel im failing somewhere on the Rot
onyx rock
Yes assa is pretty fine overall
regal chasm
but ive no data to actually check against
watching guides is all well n good
i find i learn better from being told i fucked up
buoyant flicker
Play better :)
obsidian sierra
Ah you mean st ?
regal chasm
aye
obsidian sierra
Hm dont know assa rota is pretty straight forward
All the guides saYing the same
regal chasm
im not sure if for the stats i have im using incorrect talents or what
tiny vapor
Yeah you can't really go wrong, it's not difficult at all
regal chasm
i was informed previously that @ 18 % haste you used exsang
spice surge
Are you testing your damage on a dummy
There no hard % caps for anything
Because sims use potions, bloodlust, flask and food
tiny vapor
if you're not sure, with different talents !
spice surge
If you dont, obv your damage will be lower
obsidian sierra
Tbh exsang i find bad for raiding since fights are pretty long and you only get max value from vanish openers with ss
I play tb over all bosses
spice surge
Also there's some nuance to playing assa, its just that its not overly impactful and its not obvious at all when you screw up
onyx rock
Its simple... play more, get loot, sim again, wear your best combo, repeat
regal chasm
it could be a simple case of Git Gud which id Gladly accept if i could find where im fuckin up XD
spice surge
If you link a log we can help you out
verbal mantle
If you have some logs it could help a lot indeed
regal chasm
Like i said above... no data to check against.
ive old logs but they are pointless now
real bay
proper use of cd' s, keeping bleeds up, not capping energy or wasting CP's gets you quite far
verbal mantle
Up your neck, try to raid and get new azerite pieces with good traits such as DD, SS, sim with different talents since you have some differences between TB and Exsang
and work on your rotation, hard to tell when we don't have more informations
regal chasm
yeah.. ill get some logs this week and if could point the hard finger
rap my knuckles and ill "GIT GUD"
obsidian sierra
I dont know how the screen looks when playing outlaw but with 2 eb i loved how crits and figures flew over the screen 😄
Huge aoe is fun
Want to test with 3 eb once i have the pieces
regal chasm
is crimson tempest even worth using? since it doesnt proc the passive
tiny vapor
Yes in certain situations
devout jolt
depends on pack size
ive been using PB this week whilst due to bursting and tanks doing smaller pulls
frozen pecan
never give up 
strange python
Not even CT for reaping. That is what I have been using
buoyant flicker
For st dps in raids pooling energy to clip EPs is pretty huge
spice surge
It really isnt though
real bay
it's easy to have 70%+ uptime
buoyant flicker
Is 2% not huge to you guys?
quick ice
its also possible that I'm VASTLY overstating its impact
vast forum
I think it's probably less than 2% tbh
spice surge
Idk what do you even mean by clipping EP, because that isnt even always the right play
Especially with double doses, its better to have your mutilates with envenom buff inside EP than it is to get 10% extra dmg on your envenom
small island
is more than 1 echoing blades needed for it to be good?
strange python
For m+.... the more you have the better
bronze holly
Is the 415 alchemy stone better than the raid trinkets?
strange python
@small island it comes down to a combo of SS and EB. Now with 5 rings. There are multiple pieces with SS and EB at the same time. Those are the ones you wanna go for
Hey guys, whats the best race for rogue horde, pve wise? orcs?
quick ice
herodamage currently has belf on top
quick ice
1% crit is pretty nice
strange python
thats it?...:/
quick ice
arcane torrent free energy?
midnight ibex
Well the difference is pretty minimal so wouldnt worry about it. BE racial is good though
strange python
Alright, was hoping u'd say orc or mag'har lol
vast forum
The difference is so minor
strange python
oh ok so it doesn't really matter that much got it
vast forum
You can choose whatever you think looks best
real bay
What if you're ally 
vast forum
Nelf
quick ice
then you have your i400 piece to carry you instead of racials 😛
vast forum
Meld is too op not to have
strange python
i am ally, elf but dont like ally anymore, atleaast on this shitty realm
Nelf is so nice. I like melding for extra Garrote so much. + it is nice since you get 4 extra silences on the reaping wave. Been using that all week to help out my tank with ranged mobs since we cannot always stack LoS due to quaking
strange python
In bossfights you only get 1 extra. But in mob packs you get a full duration Subs+Garrotea
spice surge
It does, but when you're not running SS its not very impactful
vast forum
Nelfs are pretty much obligated to run 3xSS if they can :D
burnt orbit
"Rupture, refresh with 7.2 seconds remaining at 5 combo points, or 6 seconds remaining at 4 combo points", the combo points that this says means the rupture that u are gonna use or the one u used before?
i dont get why u have to wait 1,2 secs more if the rupture will last shorter
spice surge
Its refering to how many points you spent on the rupture that is already up
Not how many you're planning to spend
burnt orbit
okey ty so much
vast forum
Wait no, that's not true
Pandemic calculates from the one you plan to apply
So if you have 7 sec remaining from any kind of rupture up on a target, a 5cp rupture will have its duration increased by 7 sec
Even if the remaining 7 sec were from a 1cp rupture
burnt orbit
okey, but why the 4combo rapture has to be applied when are 6 sec left?
real bay
actually I'll just Google it.. lmao
spice surge
What? The reason you can refresh at 6 seconds with 4cp instead of 7.2
Is that the original rupture was shorter
Thus you need to wait a bit more to not waste pandemic time
Pandemic is always 30% of the original duration, so if you spent 5 cp the pandemic window is larger
than if you spent 4
vast forum
I'm like 99% sure it's the other way around
real bay
I'm finding mixed info as well
spice surge
If you put up a 1 cp garrote
vast forum
If you have 5cp and want to apply new rupture, previous one should have less than 7.2 remaining
spice surge
The pandemic window isnt fucking 7.2s
Sure you will get a longer new rupture
But you will miss damage from the previous ones
spice surge
If you put up a 1 cp rupture
It will last 8 seconds
If you put up a 5cp rupture right after at 7 seconds, you will waste the majorit of that rupture
vast forum
If you put up a 3cp rupture in the grg opener, then muti and apply 5cp rupture, it gets the full 31sec duration
humble crane
Is it still possible to cloak off the iceblock buff on Jaina or did they fix it? I tried all night tonight on our heroic kill but the debuff never got to 5 seconds passively without Reseting the counter and applying a stack
real bay
and if you apply a 5cp on that you will get full pandemic when it's under 7.2sec
spice surge
Yes, it gets the full duration
It gets the full duration if you refresh it at 20s left too
wary frost
4 cpoints rupture : 20 s 30% of 20s is 6s
5 cpoints rupture : 24 s 30% of 20s is 7.2s
thats why
vast forum
Yes, but it calculates from the newly cast rupture
wary frost
30ù is max pendemic
vast forum
Not the previous one
spice surge
If you refresh a 5cp garrote at 20s instead of 7.2 seconds, you have wasted 12.8s of rupture
Because you refreshed it too early
wary frost
yes
spice surge
And with a 4cp, you need to refresh it at 6s
Its got literally nothing to do with the new rupture
vast forum
That was never the point of this discussion
spice surge
?
strange python
please stop fighting i dont like it
real bay
the previous is irrelevant only thing that matters is the time left
slim olive
spice surge
No?
strange python
Yeh but if you 1 cp rupture and then that has 6 seconds left and then you 4 combo point rupture you're getting a max rupture
spice surge
Only 30% of the duration
wary frost
its 30% of the new one can be add
spice surge
Idk what you're even trying to say
vast forum
Up to 30% of newly cast rupture's duration can be added from previous rupture
spice surge
Yes?
vast forum
Regardless of the full duration of the 1st rupture
spice surge
Yes?
burnt orbit
yeah
royal lantern
@lusty compass sorry just came home from work, and yeha, my character is a pandaren? you think it has something too do with that?
spice surge
No, i said if you refresh too early you miss damage
vast forum
No, before that
sturdy python
Pandemic is explained in pins
vast forum
You said the pandemic window is applied to 1st rupture
sturdy python
Ez pz
slim olive
You guys are gonna break Eleem
spice surge
Pandemic window is based on the 1st rupture?
wary frost
no
spice surge
wtf are you even
sturdy python
If you are casting a 24s rupture, 30% of that time can be tacked on from the previous rupture
royal lantern
stay strong eleem
wary frost
if you cast a new 5cp rupture at 1s you will add 1s due to pandemic, if you cast at 7.2s you add max pandemic ( 30% of the new one )
if you cast a 4cp rupture the max pandemic is lower ( 6s )
real bay
easy
marble magnet
!azerite
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Azerite Season 2 changes: https://bit.ly/2U86I7o
robust light
u guys reckon Blood Rite is better than Scent of Blood in m+? they sim like 700 dps apart on a 4target 40s sim but ofc that doesnt count the kill refresh effect
thin patio
I'd say take scent but it depends on how u play M+
past star
scent definitely better in m+
strange python
If you wanna play Sin in M+ you should aim to have 3xSS + 3xEB. That is better. SoB after that.
You get good ST with the SS. Good burst AoE with EB. And overall very good damage on all packs with 4x Garrote and EB / Ruptures.
wide vapor
Is there any know bug with crimson tempest? Just used it for the first time in m+ yesterday and half the time I pressed the button it just didn’t do anything, global locked me, and then I had to press again
strange python
Hello guys,i see a lot of video for the assassination opening,what is the best with toxic blade for raid?
cerulean walrus
Pins
verbal mantle
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
strange python
Pins + sim yourself
merry orbit
Guys, i was looking Sims today and on theory bis for sin rights now is 3x raid trait + 3x dd and ofcorse toxic blade, am I right?
verbal mantle
depends if it's pure ST or not
merry orbit
Yea np is quite nice with energy but acording to sims 3rd tc is higher
verbal mantle
pure ST would definetly be at least 3 DD
cerulean walrus
Yeah.... you take the 3 TC AND NP
verbal mantle
TC is Tracherous Covenant right?
verbal mantle
k
merry orbit
On what Boss it's nad to have 3x DD?
I mean couple of them have add phase, but bot that's super long
Maybe on mythic SS will be quite noce for Vanish burst
cerulean walrus
I just prefer NP because of the energy regen tbh
real bay
SS is nice for Rasta and Jadefire
strange python
I feel that, for full potential of that cleave you are talking about you will need to move more than you actually will gain. The only boss might be like Rastakahn
spice surge
Its also impossible to have 3x DD and 3x TC
verbal mantle
yup, thats my main issue atm since I came back to WoW 2 days ago lul
spice surge
so thats why the best setup has 1 NP
tiny vapor
TC is simming well because you never go below 50% tho
cerulean walrus
Stop taking avoidable damage.
tranquil basin
Is the simming correct for SS (without Exsanguinate), sims really low
spice surge
Yes, just make sure you're using subterfuge
Being below 50% for any substantial amount of time is very rare
cerulean walrus
If you're constantly under 50%, you're taking avoidable damage. lmao
I get that the fire looks nice and comfy, but don't
spice surge
G'huun is probably the worst fight imaginable for that trait and even then most of my guild would've had 75-80% uptime on it in the last phase
strange python
Except for Jaina. Then the fire is your friend
cerulean walrus
Until it isn't lul
spice surge
You dont really drop below 50% from the fires in p1 though, they only do like 30k per second
strange python
Btw. Isn't 3xDD, 2xTC, 1xNP best? Not 3xTC, 2xDD, 1xNP??
cerulean walrus
TC sims higher
spice surge
Tc sims higher, but its like 25-40 simdps
cerulean walrus
So do whatever you want
strange python
Okey nice
primal gazelle
TC gives aoe value as well since its your overall stats
cerulean walrus
? its just Agility
cerulean walrus
Well no kidding. Its your primary stat. Haste has more of an effect on those though
and Mastery as well
primal gazelle
not sure what you're saying here
my point is that TC gives aoe and st value
dd is st only
cerulean walrus
Wait yeah wtf am I saying? This is about the trait lmao
Holy shit I'm like drunk or something
spice surge
You're correct but the DD crits during vendetta+tb are definitely juicy
22k with only 2 traits atm 😃
cerulean walrus
That's mega
brazen prairie
hey, what is more important: envenom on 3cp to maintain EP or on 5 and loose few sec of EP?
primal gazelle
5
brazen prairie
ty
final stone
so thoughts on seductive power. I heard its kinda bugged where it hardly procs? im testing sims out on my gear and one of my traits is SP but im using SoB just because i heard its kind of bad but sims are showing SP better?
Unless its just normal that it like never procs
brave dragon
can we stack Nothing personal ?
spice surge
With every trait in the entire game, the damage/healing/stats always stack while all the other effects dont
finite acorn
should i use exs even i have better traits for TB in dungeons ?
in raids ik tb is better but just wondering is there some reason that exs is always in used in dungeons
outer ruin
significantly higher amount of garroting means exsang does more in dungeons
Also since you're envenoming much less, less TB value
oak inlet
I'm struggling a bit with understanding the rotation when there are 2 adds, 3 adds, and 4+ adds. I think the 2-add rotation is basically just the ST rotation and trying to maintain rupture + garrote on both targets. What about for 3 adds?
oak inlet
fan of knives to build CP?
strange python
fok instead of muti
oak inlet
And that's assuming subterfuge?
strange python
yeah
oak inlet
My sim is better for Master Assassin given my current traits (lack of SS). So that wouldn't be possible for me I don't think
obsidian sierra
Any1 know yet if raid trinket can compete with dungeon trinkets
obsidian sierra
8.0 you always wanted dice and plumage or dooms
strange python
unless raid trinket is 415 and dungeon one is 385
obsidian sierra
Dont know how is it now
buoyant coyote
how do i check my overall bleeds up on wcl ?
spice surge
spice surge
Go into your damage breakdown, and look to the right
In the same row as your dots damage bar there wil be a "uptime" column
@buoyant coyote
robust light
Can't check journal myself atm but does anyone know if any of the raid azerites have SS and EB on separate rings? If so which ones?
spice surge
Jaina shoulders
robust light
Okay cool. Anymore?
spice surge
Is wowanalyzer even updated for assa? I know it wasnt supported throughout uldir
robust light
So we're reliant on either using 370 m0 pieces or getting lucky in the cache to have 3x SS and 3x EB right?
spice surge
Looks to still be fairly barebones
Idk if you dont want to rely on luck buy specific
But buying random is in most scenarios just better because they're so much cheaper
robust light
Yeah ofc. Would have like 5/6 chances at getting a good one for same price of buying the specific
Can't remember exact amounts
spice surge
Its 4 1/6 chances, 5 if you scrap all the first 4
tough egret
what do people tend to gem and enchant for for m+?
spice surge
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Stat weights:
Single target: haste > crit > mastery > vers
Multi target: crit > mastery > vers >= haste
Note: Simming will always result in more accurate results.
tough egret
aye, but what do you actually do
spice surge
If you want to do aoe damage you get crit
chilly hazel
hello! anyone know how to use Invocation of Yu'lon? on CD?
tough egret
fine, thanks
primal gazelle
jaina shoulders does not give ss/eb combo, it gives SS SOB, or EB SOB
its the conclave chest that gives SS/EB combo, the other 2 slots youll have to fill via random azerite purchases
spice surge
oh mb
primal gazelle
you should also purchase the shoulder slot first if you care to optimize for m+,
there are 2 out of 6 shoulder pieces that give ss/eb, so its double the chances of other slots of getting those traits
robust light
What's the chance of getting the combo from a chest? I was gonna buy chest at reset cause I currently still have a mythic uldir chest which is baaad
spice surge
You can have a look at all of the chests in the document in the pins
wanton pond
i dont understand why people are taking opal over the emerald
if you shadowstep properly you can maintain high stacks, get into opulence and get to 30 stacks
maintaining that single target on the boss and doting the adds closest to you seems optimal
hollow stone
Tbh, most of us went opal because emerald was bugged and wasnt an option. Tbd which is actually better
ripe nimbus
Because it's bugged and only stacks to 5
hollow stone
Yea. They hotfixed it
wanton pond
ok so emerald is defs the way to go then no?
hollow stone
But after a lot of us already cleared
ripe nimbus
No
spice surge
Its likely opal is better on mythic if the fight lasts long
so you get multiple sets of adds
hollow stone
On a short kill, prob. Opal still likely better on longer kill times
spice surge
But for hc prob emerald
ripe nimbus
U get liquid gold once and ur fked
wanton pond
ok then in that case do you think it would be worth to vanish triple garrote then fok continously ?
potent monolith
if i have only 1 SS i have to use Subterfuge or Master assasing?
ripe nimbus
Sub
hollow junco
!simyoself
fading vigil
How the fuck did they down heroic opulence in 2 minutes?
hollow stone
Depends on what your group needs. If you are tunnelling st into boss you fok once per add spawn. If youre aoeing, aoe
ripe nimbus
If u have any SS it's always sub
fading vigil
2 minutes and 18 seconds. Did anyone see that?!
wanton pond
i feel like even if you get liquid gold if you have shadow step up you can maintain your stacks
spice surge
Prob just a log error
ripe nimbus
It's a bug u can reset the boss and keep ur gem stacks
dark crag
You have 1 step, you have to run once
primal gazelle
who are you gonna shadowstep to if you get liquid gold?
spice surge
Their logs start when they hit the boss, not when they start the corridor
so yes, its a bugged log
primal gazelle
thats still losing stacks tho
wanton pond
that way you lose half the stacks you normally would
yeah but definately not as much
you can recover and get back to 30
dark crag
And then you get gold a second time
primal gazelle
how much dmg increase is 30 stacks?
primal gazelle
thats less than 2 waves of adds lol
wanton pond
your st flies
hollow stone
Opal is the safer choice unless it's a fast kill
ripe nimbus
If ur guild can kill the boss and only have him spawn adds once emerald may have merit
hollow stone
Simple as that
primal gazelle
yea maybe on farm
on mythic, the adds will live longer and be more spread out, and youll get a 3rd wave or even 4th
wanton pond
x)
wild stone
Why is my sim coming back so low?
ripe nimbus
Do u have double ring azerite armor?
wild stone
Yeah. Two of them
sturdy python
Linking the sim would be better
zenith gust
is dagger in the back really better than twist the knife?
wild stone
I used the simcraft bot, just used mobile browser and got higher but still low for 392.. Saw an outlaw simming 1k higher at 389 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3rpMn6ssHvhF1f25rzYV5G
I feel like I should be higher.. I have done top gear and simmed multiple gems and enchants
sinful cypress
is the raidbots tool reliable to compare dps output across specs?. (haven't played since MoP, and back then shadowcraft was good intra-spec, not so much across)
spice surge
You're missing a lot of dps traits in your gear, and scent of blood is fairly bad for ST
primal gazelle
you dont have the neck ilvl for the 3rd dps rings
which is 200-400 dps each depending on trait
hallow walrus
Hey guys, once more: anyone knows how to get to Exodar nowadays, as Horde?
sinful cypress
ship from rutheraan as always
wild stone
Okay I'll try for more azerite. I didn't get any azerite for like 2 months while on last 3 bosses for cutting edge. Just got on to raid..
Thanks
hallow walrus
Where or what is Rutheraan?
sinful cypress
a village at the bottom of old teldrasil
wild stone
I'll resim the 2nd ring traits too
hallow walrus
can i fly over there when i set Darkshore to the "past"?
sinful cypress
yup. There's a few seconds of fatigue though
hallow walrus
seems fine, thanks a lot @sinful cypress
stoic violet
@wild stone You can either go to bloodmallet.com to find bis trinkets and traits. or run Raidbots Droptimizer, just type your characters name and it'll find it in the wow armory for you
final stone
@wild stone what i do is ill email my self the current /simc on my rogue then copy that from my phone then you can top gear while your at work.
wild stone
Shit yeah I'll have to do that. I can kill like 2 hours simming Haha
I look at bloodmallet and hero dmg all the time but I can't sim that
I'll try droptimizer
primal gazelle
word, its like 3$ a month
round harbor
I spend more on McDonald's nuggies in a week than that lol
novel rapids
ember forum
Hey Gents, so in my most recent sim -> https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3NuLvNk3EYDcRo1S9NtzVC - Master Ass Sims highest
i havent used master ass in awhile though...
I just open. have full garrote & rupture, hold 5 combo points, Vanish -> Vendetta -> envenom -> mutilate x2 -> envenom?
sturdy python
Openers are in the guide. Would spell it out better for you
That's def not correct because no tb
ember forum
ye thats what i thought, mistyped mb
Also i noticed my haste went from 2.6 in uldir, to 2.1 in BoD, and my mastery jumped up to almost 3
mighty elm
do you hold on to your 2nd vendetta till vanish is back up? (20 sec ish)
ember forum
@mighty elm you would 100%
miss to much burst w/o it, but it should be close. within like 5 seconds of eachother
sturdy python
Yes, hold second vendetta for second vanish. After that they line up
sturdy python
Tb on cd
mighty elm
dont you line it up with vanish vendetta ?
sturdy python
it's only a 25s CD. You can hold vendetta and vanish for tb
mighty elm
hmm i see
sturdy python
Chances are you'll never have to for more than a few seconds though
honest mica
I would only reccomend the MA build for fights that require very little movement. So far thats pretty much just Grong. I sim higher for ST with MA but real world has me doing a lot more dps with SS+subt
brittle idol
!azerite
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Azerite Season 2 changes: https://bit.ly/2U86I7o
primal gazelle
how the hell did u get 2 400 azerite pieces from darkshore stuff?
@ember forum
@gusty kestrel shouldnt you tb before you vanish? so you can tb->vanish-> envenom->multi-> envenom to get 2 envenom crits within the 3 sec MA window?
primal gazelle
i knew alliance gets 1 400 piece, didnt know it was 2
idle ember
Where can I find more information on running Crimson Tempest for high keys?
primal gazelle
!ct
prisma monolithBOT
There is no specific week or affix that makes one or the other more viable.
CT vs PB is mainly down to your group, the dungeon itself and your pull sizes, with PB naturally having an edge in boss fights.
It's mainly the combination of affixes and dungeons that favour one or the other. High Tyr KR/Temple favour PB in general, due to low pulls and harder bosses.
In terms of Exsang vs TB; Exsang wins since it works well with SS traits and it's only 1 global on your priority target for some burst damage and extra energy.
TB usually locks you to that target to gain the most out of it.
round harbor
@primal gazelle I been playing with pb and it feels so nice
primal gazelle
poison bomb?
round harbor
CT is still good, but with triple eb spending less energy on CT and more energy on foks feels right
round harbor
But looking at people and just using the two feels correct
primal gazelle
@round harbor lets duke it out one day when we both get bis traits 😛
final stone
Best name plates !?!?
round harbor
It sounds really good synergy
primal gazelle
i dont like scent very much tbh
it actually sucks for reaping because they just die before you can get 4-5+ off
primal gazelle
what i do is actually only rupture the risen souls (lowest hp ones)
spam fok until 50 or less energy, 5 cp rupture a dying risen soul for full energy bar back
and just keep spamming fok without putting up ruptures unless under 50 energy
i only have maybe 2-3 up at a time this way and just spam fok
round harbor
Also gotta consider I'll probly be running outlaw in everything besides kr and temple
So or and temple might benefit from scent and a little less aoe
Or*
Kr
I'm just azerite starved ATM so I can't run both specs optimally
primal gazelle
same lol these azerite reforges are mounting up
have to reforge for m+, then raid, and pvp, on the same 3 pieces lol
hollow stone
Can you pre-cloak to stop the iceblock on jaina? Like, theres those few sec before you get blocked after hitting 20. If you cloak then, can you avoid being blocked? I cannot test again until next week
spice surge
Yes for 5 seconds
primal gazelle
cloak doesnt clear your stacks, so even if you stop the iceblock, itll still freeze u right after it fades
hollow stone
Ah ok. So the stacks remain, it would just extend the time before actually being blocked by 5 sec
Wtf blizz, why even play rogue? 🙃
I was hoping it would interact like "hit 20, cloak, immunes the block, stacks reset as if blocked, profit"
cerulean walrus
Breaking news: Cloak clears stacks. Method uses 5 rogues to defeat Mythic Jaina for WF
Zulul II: Electric Boogaloo
hollow stone
Nah nah, clearing stacks, thats fine, that makes sense. But im pretty sure if you bubble pre-block, you dont get blocked
So stack pallies i guess
😄
primal gazelle
but youll get blocked after your bubble is down
cerulean walrus
LOL
hollow stone
Yea. Its all just delay
Its almost like they thought about this ahead of time
And then free action pots happened...
spice surge
Just play mage
primal gazelle
free action pots work on jaina?
spice surge
And block/blink out of every block
civic thorn
theres no you can blink a block what
royal lantern
cloak doesnt clear stacks
spice surge
You can
civic thorn
is that a meme
hollow stone
Bro, playing mage without shimmer?! Blasphemy! 😃
spice surge
If you dont play shimmer
royal lantern
and they will remove the free action pot thing
cerulean walrus
Nah I wasn’t serious about Cloaking stacks Tryan
It was all for the meme potential
hollow stone
I wasnt asking about stacks but about the block itself. Either way, mystery solved
If a fire mage combustions right before getting blocked...... #classfantasy
😎
primal gazelle
anyone else feel bad when theres like 6-8+ iceblocks to pad on jaina, as a rogue you do like maybe 20-30k dps to them, but dhs and ret pallys blast fhem for 60-80k 😦
royal lantern
wath do you expect as assassination? we have a ramp up
hollow stone
Just look at dmg done to jaina and youll instantly feel better
royal lantern
and imagine playing paladin
cerulean walrus
Paladunk
civic thorn
jaina is so awk for cds sub could prolly beat it
plain jacinth
jaina has too much time off boss for sub to be better
wary ice
tacit wolf
all those kilometers
round harbor
Every morning when I wake up I think about kilometers
vestal wren
mellow agate
Anyone know why my Kimbul's Razor Claw seems to sim so high? on heroic blockades it did 2.5% of my damage. It just seems low
round harbor
2.5% plus the agi it provides is good
strange python
!guide
prisma monolithBOT
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steep carbon
Hi! I am a bit newbie when it comes to rogues and how to play them, so I kinda would like to some one more experienced to maybe help me out. I checked the guide and pinned messages but didnt find an answer. So the thing I wanted to ask is that should I go with Shrouded suffocation over Double dose when they are both same Ilvl gear when playing Toxic Blade. Other thing that I am wondering is that how much I should pool energy when going to cast toxic blade to make as much out from it as possible ?
prisma carbon
Both traits are good. Simming yourself would tell you what is better. SS will probably pull ahead on fights where you can vanish garrote multiple targets.
merry python
try to pool for TB but i'm pretty sure you just want to mash it if you're arent 5 cp
to get the most casts out of it rather than the most efficient one
steep carbon
Ty for answers. So Gerts do you mean that I should cast envenom after every mutilate ?
during toxic blade ^^
steep carbon
Okay, thank you!
primal gazelle
anyone tried testing out MA with 3 DD? and changing your vanish opener to mut envenom mut?
ideally your DD can crit too which "might" be a dps increase" but who knows
buoyant coyote
Feels like im doing low dmg on cleave
desert vault
what gem is ideal for rogues on Op?
buoyant coyote
opal i think for the stacks
real bay
thought it was !gem lol
buoyant coyote
Being told not to multi bleed on burst during rastkhan cuz others die to quick <.<
sturdy python
Richard, I think people just want the command to post the gif
solid nova
Need to find a compromise on CD because otherwise youll end up with 1 person asking and everyone jumping to the command to post it
And then we'll have fucking 10 opals in the chat 
pliant nest
so hows it looking spec-wise for the new raid? still mostly assa?
scenic shale
scarlet wing
Anyone else have a tricks bug? I cannot use it anymore 😦
ripe nimbus
If u have neural silencer on ur self as well u can't tricks either
scarlet wing
Wow rip. Thanks
worthy leaf
I gotta ask, I'm struggling a bit with rogue for example in Freehold. I just can't stay out of some kind of aoe everywhere. Am I being a tard or something?
primal gazelle
yes
stun the duelist charge, banana barrage, dodge traps, interrupt frost blast
avoid the slam from the crusher
hollow stone
And if you still fail, go outlaw for the extra melee range, it removes a bunch of those XD
worthy leaf
Yeah I found m+ a lot easier on outlaw in general... but... assassin is more fun :p Other than that whole dying part
atomic willow
whats the best proffesions for a sin rogue?
rustic ether
the enforcers are always the hardest ones to dodge because i can never see where theyre facing lmfao
primal gazelle
i wish theres like a WA that shows an arrow on top of your target and which direction its facing
hollow stone
Proffs allow you to craft gear. Lw and jc would be considered the best for rogue this tier. W makes 2 pieces and jc makes a guaranteed socketed ring
primal gazelle
me? no
rustic ether
damn i wished you were LOL
atomic willow
ok i got LW and was thinking bout ditching skinniong for something so jc looks promising
worthy leaf
The good, old AVR addon would be awesome
hollow stone
She's dainty
primal gazelle
and the entire damn background is BLUE
and shes casting an icy ray thats also blue
cant see shit
hollow stone
Just mark her with square 🤓
royal lantern
yeha, they should make jaina somewhat better too see
hollow stone
(Square is also blue and cant be seen with that fight room)
primal gazelle
joke went over my head
odd hatch
Let's say I'm at 75% energy on mekka, and tb comes up while I'm at max cp and bleeds have sufficient time. Currently I cast tb and overcap cp to get another env out. Over the course of a fight, I get 3 or so more envs out during tb but lose an env overall. Worth or nah
nimble tartan
Its fine
spice surge
Think of it this way
1 combo point is worth roughly 20% of an envenom (slightly less because of energy)
And TB increases envenom damage by 30%
30%>20%
oak inlet
I am sure trait stacking has been discussed at length, but can anyone confirm if I have our BIS azerite gear correct please? Cowl of Righteous Resolve (DD + TC), Ma'ra's Boneblade Mantle (DD + TC), and Mekkatorque's Bomber Jacket (NP + TC)
odd hatch
That's true. Tb crits like almost half the time for me though, so that'd be 40%>30%. Ehhhh
lost sentinel
so a 3 point TB envenom < 5 point non-tb envenom?
nimble tartan
Never 3 cp env
lost sentinel
I don't, but it seems like a worthwhile question
also, you might 3 cp env if the thing is about to die before 2 globals 😛
so never say never 😄
nimble tartan
odd hatch
Ok so on that, let's say mekka is about to fly away but this is the last chance to use vanish before wasting a ton of time. If we have ss, would it be garrote env garrote or garrote garrote env?
odd hatch
That was a bad example lmao
Rasta before going into bwomamdi's area. That'd be a solid 15s off target
primal gazelle
mut --> 2 combo, vanish -> g finisher G to avoid wasting cp points if possible
nimble tartan
Theres like barely any downtime b4 u go down
odd hatch
If you're too low energy going into those last 3s you just won't have the energy to get those off tho
I guess you can sacrifice something else to pool tho
nimble tartan
Just dont leave early he has a cast time for his phase so just watch for it
alpine rain
is there a weak aura for gigavolt osciallator?
nimble tartan
odd hatch
Yeah but my raid is biscuits lmaooo I gotta get there earlier than I should
alpine rain
beast
oak inlet
BIS azerite gear: Cowl of Righteous Resolve (DD + TC), Ma'ra's Boneblade Mantle (DD + TC), and Mekkatorque's Bomber Jacket (NP + TC). Thoughts?
real bay
if not bis very close to it, nothing better from raid I guess
primal gazelle
those pieces are from raid..
real bay
yes
primal gazelle
the shoulder piece is called Mestrah's Singing Spaulders
oak inlet
My analysis includes dungeon gear tho
primal gazelle
which piece is dungeon
real bay
name is different ally/horde
primal gazelle
oh
real bay
kinda dumb
oak inlet
From what I see, ideally we would want 3 x DD and 3 x TC
but there is no chest piece in the game that has DD and TC
so we are left with what i posted
strange python
Btw guys what is top best performing spec for m+ and what is for raid?
real bay
is the answer
strange python
Heard that outlaw does way more dps in m+ with new affix than assa , sry i was not playing for some time.
oak inlet
You'll get a lot of different answers on this addikt as it is a matter of opinion. But I'd say outlaw for m+ and sin for raids.
strange python
i saw noxxic site looks like sub is performing better with 385-415ilvl on 1 target not moving
rustic ether
NOXXIC
solid nova
Noxxic is awful.
strange python
haha did i trigger someone 😄
rustic ether
KEKEKEKEKEKEKEKEK
primal gazelle
outlaw and sin are top 5 specs for m+, its just gonna be down to player prefence
oak inlet
delete that website from your browsing history. also how many fights are you aware of where there's 1 target and no movement?
glossy kestrel
you proably want EB not DD for like half the fights in BODA
rustic ether
what? lol
strange python
i know but its just testing how classes perform 😄
solid nova
@strange python Sin and Outlaw are perfectly viable choices. The wowhead guides are probably the best written atm. Use sims, WCL and other resources here to determine things.
Remove Noxxic from your mind
oak inlet
but the test is being performed by a chimpanzee with a crayon
strange python
aha okay , btw some paladin was outdpsing me in raid , are paladins now rly good or something?
rustic ether
noxxic literally always has different power and ranking systems for all the classes and specs than ALL OTHER MAJOR SIMS
strange python
ye i understand
rustic ether
im sorry im just very passionate about how terrible that site is
rustic ether
right?
strange python
but are paladins now good dps in raid or this one was insane that i saw in raid?
oak inlet
there's millions of factors man
rustic ether
theyre not bad
rustic ether
he might have had 6 traits
oak inlet
you can get outdps'd by a resto druid. That doesn't mean resto druids are insane dpsers
solid nova
Unless youve got alog of the kill, we cant tell you what it was that pulled them ahead 😄
rustic ether
right now we are in some wierd state where someone can get lucky, get 6 traits and pubstomp literally everyone
strange python
aha , i didnt log im casual trash atm kinda dissapointed with 8.1 and whole raid
#unsubscribed
solid nova
Fair enough
rustic ether
rly? surprising! this is the first raid thats been surprisingly well recieved
oak inlet
yea i like it 10x better than Uldir
strange python
dno i liked Uldir more tbh it felt like a real raid
rustic ether
okay now thats too far
strange python
this feel so cheap dude
rustic ether
LOL
oak inlet
I really think it is leaps and bounds ahead of Uldir
rustic ether
you can have an opinion BUT NOT THAT ONE
strange python
that first boss with that small ass boat when i was there with 30ppl i got cancer my dude xD
solid nova
Can have what ever opinion you like lol
strange python
not first boss*
strange python
but u know what i mean like 3rd boss or something
solid nova
Not based off normal/hc lol
strange python
So im the only one that dislikes the new raid? 😮
rustic ether
yeah no im jk i just hated uldir like the sheep i am
solid nova
First raid tier is always a bit lack luster imo
rustic ether
no im sure theres people who dont enjoy it. its a very ranged friendly raid as usual so im sur emelee may not like it
finite yarrow
I havnt had an instance wherr i have hated being melee in BoD except akunda on conclave
real bay
I do like the look etc a lot more than uldir
strange python
dno just have a feeling that they didnt put enough time into making this raid , all the bugs , fps problems , bugged quests gives me picture that something is rly bad happening with blizzard atm
real bay
bosses as well, will see about mythic
primal gazelle
theres a ton of top level blizz employees that had left the company within the past 12 months
strange python
😦
zenith gust
what gem should i take in opulence?
solid nova
Opal
rustic ether
really opal? i took ruby D:
zenith gust
ok thx
solid nova
1 person each side takes ruby yes
Rest will take opal
Unluck if you're on ruby duty
zenith gust
and outlaws opal too? for a friend who plays outlaw
solid nova
Yes
zenith gust
cool thx
rustic ether
wait only one person can take ruby?
rustic ether
w.....why?
solid nova
For adds
Only need 1
And they dont stack
Total dps waste to have more when they could be on opal
rustic ether
ooooohhh
solid nova
Rip your log 😄
rustic ether
ohmygod i just read ruby
so ruby applies for literally everyone
holy fuck im blind
i feel so bad now
i think opulence would have gone down alot sooner if i hadnt told most of the melee to go ruby LMFAO
inner pecan
guide is decent but know that limit has nothing to do with it lol
title is clickbait
sinful lotus
Hello everyone, what's the optimal way to use the Gigavolt trinket from Mekatork? Do you wait until it hit 6 stacks (then wait 6 seconds) AND THEN hit the on use effect to get another 6 seconds at max stacks? Or am I understanding it wrong?
lost sentinel
why does the guide say limit, just to add credence to it? meh
heady raven
Just got the mekkatorque chest azerite
Should i go double dose or treacherous?
Rest of my azerite is all pre 8.1
spice surge
Prob dd, becuase they sim roughly the same
And even though the drawbacks of tc are rare, dd doesnt have drawbacks
rustic ether
for the bursting affix does DH darkness do anyhting?
spice surge
Yes
dapper bough
is blockades normal overtuned on normal with low players ?
It was easier in hm than in nm i swear lol
or whatever the boss before jaina is called
oak inlet
Just to pick up on that opulence question re gems, I took opal on my first run. On my second run I decided to take emerald (do more damage if you stand still capping at 30% increased damage). I did not move a single time in phase 2 and I absolutely crushed the meters.
regal tundra
@dapper bough it definitely seems harder on NM for whatever reason. Low number of players also means harder soaks since a bigger portion of your raid will need to move
dapper bough
yeah... the adds have way too much hp it seems on normal ... and they teleport
dark crag
Fast kill favors emerald, many add waves favor opal
humble crane
Anyone know if its still possible to cloak stacks of the iceblock before it resets <5 seconds on Jaina, or did they fix it? I tried to do it all last night on our heroic kill but never seemed to get to < 8 seconds before it passively reset.
spice surge
Cloak does not remove stacks of the iceblock thing on jaina no
humble crane
I know it doesnt remove them, but before yesterday rogues were timing cloak to avoid the buff resetting passively when it was about to time out.
So when the debuff was at < 5 seconds, you could cloak and not get reapplication, the debuff would wear off
Not sure if they fixed it since though
glossy kestrel
has anyone had issues with their ruby user dying on p2? i can't see why there's a need for a second ruby, except to help the adds die at the same time. or you could just make your melee group heavier than ranged group, knowing that ranged will catch up in final room when there's a ruby on the construct
dapper bough
because if you have only one ruby guy and he needs to move because of the gold thingy... you're fucked, I guess
junior aurora
rogues can at least shadowstep back, though if you get multiple pools in a row then its rough
fleet whale
so i got the mekka trinket yesterday, and it appears to sim well for me. Do you try to delay certain cds to get the most benefit on the highest stack, or do you just use everything on cd regardless?
royal lantern
its pretty hard too do plans with that trinket cus it builds and drops stacks even outside of combat
sucks when you pull and its at 2 going down
fleet whale
i just hope the trinket is as good as my sims says, my 375 dice and mekk trink sim the highest for me
royal lantern
right now i just use it at max stacks or when its dropping and a cd window just came up at 5 too hold it longer
sturdy python
As long as you use the on use properly it should be
royal lantern
probably not the best way, but idk
fleet whale
i think the ideal way would be to activate at the last second you have 6 stacks
i'm gonna miss lion's guile though
royal lantern
does that matter? i thought the timer just stops
wich means you still have the full timer of the current buff
fleet whale
i thought it might reset
royal lantern
like i said, not sure about it cus the trinket is a bit weird
and i would prefer that it doesnt build and drop all the time
fleet whale
it's sort of like incanter's flow
and who knows, maybe some one will make a quick guide on how to use it, but it's probably just as simple as using it on 6 stacks when you can :/
royal lantern
well, incanters flow is only in combqat if im right(?) and always gives you a bonus, and like i said, its annyoing when you start a pulltimer and the stacks are at 3-4 dropping, cus then you pull at 1-2 stacks and have no trinket at all after a few sec
weak creek
do you guys pool your energy till something comes up like tb (obv not capping on energy) or do you try to keep refreshing EP as soon as it drops
wide bolt
From my understanding you dont really track EP and more so bother with maintaining envenom until it falls off and you cant immediately hit it again. Then you pool until around 150 energy and envenom > mut til 4/5 cp > envenom > repeat until energy starved
Assuming things like TB dont come up or you dont need to refresh rupture
unkempt solstice
Do we need a 10 key this week, or does it cap at 6?
wide bolt
Rewards from end of dungeon cap at 6 but weekly is still 10
spice surge
10 for weekly rewards
spice surge
!opal
Awww not in yet, but if you're on normal or a good geared hc then emerald
Otherwise opal
desert vault
Do the gems spawn in random spots or same every time? Only had a couple pulls on heroic cause I've been sick all week.
desert vault
Ok. I need to unfortunately pug a kill tonight I supposed. Try to get them sweet daggers.
Need a stupid shoulder as well. Got head from first boss and really nice 400 chest from world pvp reward. Jadefire gave up nothing for me though.
rustic ether
first boss head is really good for aoe and ST right?
i havent really looked into anyhting other than m+ traits lmfao
rustic ether
ho boy time to pug
royal lantern
(or 3rd if you play the wrong faction)
rustic ether
uh whats the wrong faction
heady raven
does horde get the pvp 400 piece next week?
heady raven
game is rigged
royal lantern
and there need too be more alliance then horde in WM for that anyway
wich is impossible in world of hordecraft at this point
spice surge
Horde isnt gonna get the piece
pastel wasp
naww
dull osprey
Why is Fathoms STILL so op.... a 30ilvl upgrade is still under simming
dull osprey
the +30 beats in on aoe sims
silver quiver
Can you log a fight against a dummy? I just started and ended a log on fighting a dummy but it doesn't seem to upload
dull osprey
@rustic ether I have Construct overcharger and fathoms. Just got a 385 tortollan trinket that has more agil and gives crit
whoops, wrong one
Is my sim wrong or am I stuck with fathoms forever? lol
sturdy python
Fathoms beats most trinkets outside of a few at a high levels, especially in St. That's close enough that the tooth would probably be better in aoe at least
rustic ether
get 385 trinkets and that shouldnt be an issue unless theyre bottom tier
dull osprey
Are there m+ trinkets that beat it?
sturdy python
Dice, spyglass, GCB, plume can
drifting cloud
at 400 almost every m+ trinket will beat it
dull osprey
Sick... I'll start farming
iron heath
!help
glossy kestrel
crown dropped, i had the TC head, so i gave it away. the guy who won the roll, replaced it with the WQ head. fml i'll just keep it next time if you're going to roll on a garbage item just for 10 levels
civic palm
TC will be somewhere under SS/SUB/EX
DitB if you're a savant will compete with Ancients' Bulwark
Same as CoA.
lone junco
@primal gazelle were we expecting nerfs?
spice surge
Not really, but it wouldnt be unreasonable
sturdy python
Always expect nerfs
primal gazelle
The First Dance haste reduced by 40%.
civic palm
primal gazelle
goodbye sub
spice surge
^
primal gazelle
its comical at this point
to nerf the most underplayed spec over and over again
every other month
lmao
spice surge
Everywhere
sturdy python
Its underplayred everywhere lol
lone junco
and you cant compare it to any class with a tank or heal offspec
sturdy python
YEs TFD needed nerfed, should have had other buffs though
primal gazelle
if you look at the # of logs by sub rogues, its literally the least played spec in the game
civic palm
Who fucking cares if it's underplayed, the trait is broken.
civic palm
Not anymore they made sure of that :3
spice surge
Not rogue related but my god this this Blur of Talons effectiveness reduced by 33%. take way too long
Cya survival
civic palm
or for most if not all of Normal and Heroic, honestly.
uRdpsHitBoss
and yeah BoT was dumb > _>
primal gazelle
what does that talent do
spice surge
Makes their 2 min cd last 1:30 and give a massive agility bonus
civic palm
Still very good it looks like.
humble crane
🍿
civic palm
Just more in line with everything else.
rancid bobcat
primal gazelle
im just glad they didnt nerf any sin rogue traits
lone junco
like 2nd vendetta trait in legion.
lone junco
i thought none of the enh stuff was any good.
rancid bobcat
Get this non rogue stuff outta here
hollow stone
Welcome back sub boiz
rancid bobcat
I just like the blue name
hollow escarp
can I stay with you guys until they fix my spec?
rustic ether
no demon hunter nerfs surprises me
hollow stone
Or spriest
lone junco
anyway. "least played class" still bugging me. Not a heal offspec, not a tank offspec, not ranged. Grats = rogue. so yeah would make sense to be least played class. there are other roles to fill. and then Ranged.
Ill take my responses offline. thx.
hollow stone
I guess spriests deserve a chance at being strong
spice surge
Their aoe trait got nerfed by 35%
hollow stone
Ah. Perfect
thorny shore
guys, on pull, its a big dps loss, start with gar-gar-rup-vend-exs-etc instead of gar-rup-gar-vend-m-rup-exs-etc ?
lean coral
you want 2nd one for max rupture and garrote duration with exsang
quick ice
Don't know about big, but you sure lose out on exsang rupture time.
sturdy python
Yeah thats a fair loss, big or not theres no point to do it
civic palm
If anything it's actively doing something worse.
lone junco
grg v m r exs is ezpz. just do it properly. If you are snitching on our guild rogue that swears by ggr. just nod and remember that he is wrong.
opal meadow
wait, exs is good?
shy drum
!stats
prisma monolithBOT
Assassination Stat weights:
Single target: haste > crit > mastery > vers
Multi target: crit > mastery > vers >= haste
Note: Simming will always result in more accurate results.
