#assassination

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strange python
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what is dd?

fiery bear
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What's that idiocricy

stuck shuttle
fiery bear
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Double dose @strange python

stuck shuttle
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guild's M Mother tonight

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rogues are fine

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sky is not falling

fiery bear
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Am talking abt zul

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Sub rogues are needed thr

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If am NT playing sub they will take other classes n bench me

solar bramble
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lol

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why sub on zul? curious

fiery bear
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So I need gear for sub as well

strange python
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what i wonder if sin is still fine for m+ trash pulls

solar bramble
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sin in m+ is fine with ss traits

fiery bear
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Method n limit both used 5-6 sub rogues

violet lintel
strange python
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sub is just too good for zul

solar bramble
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the ability to get free evis's? or because the multiple jumps

strange python
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perma dance

slender peak
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sin is fine post SS nerf just wish they would have taken more time and included buffs to the lower end traits so you dont end up with high ilvl paper weights

opal mason
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should we be doing DD now?

strange python
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did anyone try out 3 SS at all?

slender peak
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best advice I can give right now is sim your self with different azurite traits

cold meteor
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@strange python sim lower than SS+AT+DD for me

cedar kelp
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SS 3stack is still bis in mythic

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but for raid its all fucky

cold meteor
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^

slender peak
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raidbots will let you pick the azurite traits. due to the changes gear is kinda all over the place right now. I have a 370 and 2x 355s that raid bots says is simming lower

strange python
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well saly for me all I got available is triple ss or 1 sob 1 ss and 1 meticulous scheming LOL

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*sadly

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anyone know why battlefield focus sims higher than ss ?:/

solar bramble
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soo, why sub rogue on zul? I sub in raid anyway so it's not a big deal. just curious why, so I can abuse it

strange python
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shurikenstorm

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everiscerate?

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dance dance dance all night?

solar bramble
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so their AoE prettymuch

slender peak
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cause sub can AoE while STing like a boss

slate dust
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Fk it. Making the change to sin tonight

solar bramble
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use the adds to pad ST like you used to do in m+ with DFA

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it sounds like

slate dust
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And maybe buying fathoms.

jolly notch
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So is 3x ss still good in dungeons? Even if its tyranical week(i know that was last week though)

strange python
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i hope i get some 385 azerite pieces in the m+ and pvp chest today ..

cold meteor
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@jolly notch yes

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Still BiS probably

strange python
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i think as soon as you have acess to higher end azerite pieces

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you will run only 1 ss piece in m+

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for the combopoints and energy regen

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but thats feelcraft

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anyone know what lastermatrix x5 and x10 mean? i know of the hidden effect but what does it really do and how do it get it?

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i*

unreal coyote
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its in the pins

jolly notch
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Was running dungeons with my arms warrior friend who is very similar skilled and with 3x ss i was still pulling slightly ahead in most packs and slightly ahead in st but not a noticable amount like 200dps on st and 1k dps on trash difference most fights

smoky bluff
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
strange python
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i never understand why herodamage and bloodmallet have so different rankings of azerite traits

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which one should i look at lol

plain thistle
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last time I checked they where pretty close

strange python
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oh maybe because i was looking at Assassination Exsg

tulip willow
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have our stat weights changed much

strange python
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agility is better than haste now D:

burnt kernel
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so, how do you use exsg? I have never played with it before. what's our rotation?

hasty sonnet
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1 ss, 1 lm, 1 ditb

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That's a sim with 3 SS and 3 SB included.

prisma monolithBOT
stuck shuttle
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!wa

void pecan
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my ss pieces are too strong.

grim sail
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@hasty sonnet Interesting, u have 11% haste /23% crit and sim 13.4k

hasty sonnet
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my stats rn are

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a little weird.

grim sail
olive shore
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lol. good times wearing triple archive of the titans

hasty sonnet
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@grim sail What's the ideal numbers rn? Should I swap my crit chants/gem for haste?

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guess I could just sim

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I'm a 4head.

grim sail
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I have no clue. Sim it. I have 17% haste/crit, and I sim worse than you

burnt kernel
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can anyone post their rotation for using exsanguinate?

cold meteor
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@hasty sonnet you want to be somewhere between 16 & 21% haste

grim sail
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With 3 SS

wary temple
strange python
grim sail
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Just posting to brag or...?

strange python
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battlefield focus is better than SS

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RIP

hasty sonnet
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change of plans

formal dock
grim sail
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390 dagger.. jesus christ

hasty sonnet
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got it this morning

fading chasm
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So are we back to TB or is Exang still the better talent?

strange python
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this is disgusting

fathom falcon
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Coming over from sub, what's a good amount of haste at around 355-360 ilvl?

little sparrow
cold meteor
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390 :o

strange python
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whats up with all your dagger ilvls

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jesus

grim sail
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Is there anyone with 358~ ilvl doing more than 14k dps? Not u Sournois u have more than 358

stuck shuttle
cold meteor
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Ye

stuck shuttle
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need betterdaggers D:

cold meteor
daring imp
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whwich traits are those

grim sail
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Baz traits?

zinc skiff
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Do we try and keep CT up for 2 tar cleave?

strange python
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funny how you are all lucky with azerite pieces and daggers from raid, i got 2 items from 2 weeks heroic clears

cold meteor
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340 DD
355 Archive
370 SS

grim sail
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Aaaand 370 dagger

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Anyone simming above 14k at 358~ ilvl without an insane dagger..? 😛

cold meteor
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No

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370 is not insane

north terrace
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Got myself to 14.1k with 1xss, 1xditb, 1x archive with 3 stacks of reorg

grim sail
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Whatever, not everyone got it

strange python
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i farm mythic plus all day and my best dagger is 365. some people are just lucky as fuck

north terrace
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I'm ilvl 358 or 359

hushed pulsar
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i'm simming about 14k ish from 15k now, feels nerfed man

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ilvl 367

north terrace
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And a 365 dagger

grim sail
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Arkoth there are people simming 14k with 358 lol, can u post ur sim?

hushed pulsar
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lol ok 1 min

north terrace
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Without the raid though I'm only like 13.6k

hushed pulsar
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oh pvp talents on atm but it should still be fairly accurate

gloomy stump
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Ill need to replace traits when i get home

north terrace
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I'm surprised how low bloodmallet has 1xss... would be nice if at least 1x stayed good...

hushed pulsar
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wait 1 ss isn't good???

north terrace
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I mean you have to sim yourself to see what works for you at this point lol

hushed pulsar
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yikes

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i still have ss on tho

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EU hasn't reset yet

north terrace
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Right now I have 1 ss and it's my highest sim, but I also don't have a lot of options. Although a same ilvl DD is getting beat for me right now.

hushed pulsar
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trying to optimize more than 1-2 traits seems really hard
it might even change rotation significantly

north terrace
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I still sim highest as sin as well, but much closer to my sub sim.

cedar kelp
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i dont think the one is worth

subtle fable
cedar kelp
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it makes snese

lilac fern
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What are the best traits to run now?

hushed pulsar
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i wondered why your dps was so high then i saw the daggers lmap

grim sail
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Wtf so many people with 11-13 % haste simming more than 14k..

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At 358~ ilvl

hushed pulsar
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i'm about 18% haste and it feels good tbh

grim sail
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Here i am at 17% haste simming 13k and raidbots telling me to get more haste

cold meteor
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@grim sail how do you see haste on sim ?

grim sail
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I armory them

subtle fable
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i was 14k before the dagger

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which i got last night

grim sail
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11% 14k haste

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11% haste 14k sim*

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13 % haste 14k+ sim

hushed pulsar
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people optimizing crit/mastery for aoe dude

grim sail
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17% haste 13k sim.

hushed pulsar
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haste is st

stuck shuttle
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
grim sail
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They are simming 14k single target though

hushed pulsar
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not a clue on that front, maybe we're missing something obvious

grim sail
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I'm really confused..

hushed pulsar
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i honestly think it's the weapons since they're the majority

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of the dps

grim sail
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Ya I can see that

cold meteor
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Well my armory says 11% haste by i have 17%

grim sail
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Buffed yeah

hushed pulsar
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about to login and sim all my azerite stockpiled gear

subtle fable
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ill link a sim i did yesterday before we got nerfed

grim sail
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Before nerf doesnt matter though

cold meteor
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On my (Raquette Hyjal EU) armory you see my M+ gear ^^

grim sail
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Ah you simmed with ST gear?

hushed pulsar
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i tend to switchout my gear to my heavy crit variants when I m+

hollow stone
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Im simming higher w/o ss now due to ilvl basically.. rip the era of ss domination

cold meteor
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Of course lol

subtle fable
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yeah but what im saying is it wasnt the weapons >.<

grim sail
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Ahhhlrighty

eager cobalt
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So for Shrouded do we want 2 SS or 1 SS + 2 Double Dose?

hushed pulsar
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apparently x1 ss isn't even that good

eager cobalt
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Great job Blizzard 😃

subtle fable
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on 340 pieces 1xss is worse than 1x bloodrite

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for me anyways

hushed pulsar
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lol imagine my shock

dusky pebble
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just got a nice wep

eager cobalt
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I guess the new gearing is going to be

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Hoard azerite gear

north terrace
eager cobalt
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incase nerfs/buffs

opaque junco
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^

eager cobalt
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What an awesome system

hushed pulsar
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rngsus pray with me for in 3 hours I shall know if my m+ weekly will give me good shit

cold meteor
north terrace
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No crazy weapons like you think make the sim lol

hushed pulsar
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lmfao 1 minute

eager cobalt
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Why sim 1 minute?

hushed pulsar
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it looks good

eager cobalt
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Are you running 0's?

cold meteor
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(M+ statweight)

slate dust
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Ego booster

hushed pulsar
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i keep gear in my bags to make my ilvl look big at this point

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367 ilvl is what shows in m+

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still, we're not the new shamans, we don't have to lie about our spec

scenic nacelle
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2 archive 1 DD, doesn't feel bad

cold meteor
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It's not ego booster lol. Just prep my char for teeming + forti week

slate dust
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What traits you running?

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About to switch to sin tonight hopefully after a nice m+ chest piece

cold meteor
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3x SS for M+

subtle fable
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So im currently useing 1 bloodrite 1 DITB 1 DD, for ST

severe raven
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any updates on best raid traits?

scenic nacelle
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!sim

ancient mistBOT
calm marsh
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hey guys, do we play tb now or still exsang?

waxen condor
cold meteor
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Still exsang for me, by a small margin (like 70 DPS)

hollow burrow
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Is there any haste cap for sin?

severe raven
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bazeso, what traits pre-raid though?

calm marsh
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k gonna sim myself quick.. just 500 queue 😄

strange python
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My guy bad

calm marsh
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btw why does sim show haste is worst stat for aoe .... i tried 2% haste and it´s so fucking shit lol xD

cold meteor
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Pre-raid ? Maybe 2DD 1SS

strange python
severe raven
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bezeso now SB?

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no SB even though its highest trait on hemor?

strange python
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Sb?

echo geyser
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When does the AK catch up mechanic hit for EU?

scenic nacelle
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SB is such a meme I refuse to use it

cold meteor
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Ye I forgot all the time this shit SB

severe raven
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im 2sb and 1 dd now

cold meteor
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It's like Snek for Outlaw

strange python
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I'm so/dib/ew

cold meteor
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I prefer go back to outlaw better than run assa with SB

strange python
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I need to replace my hood but it always Sims better than anything i get

subtle fable
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i sim less with 2 sb and 1 dd tho... litterly because of ilvl

cold meteor
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You can't have SB in raid so..

eager cobalt
undone cairn
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sub sims 400 dps higher

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but im braindead af

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and suck at sub

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feelsbad

cedar kelp
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sub is braindead too so

strange python
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Sub simming 500 lower for me which is nice

lost mason
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assasin feels so much easier than sub

subtle fable
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wait why cant we have sb in raid?

cold meteor
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@subtle fable correct me if i'm wrong, but azerite pieces from Uldir don't have any SB trait

subtle fable
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yeah... but what if you have no uldir pieces... like at all... so wouldnt sb still be good?

cold meteor
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It's more a early patch trait

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Unless you plan to not enter in Uldir at all

spare tree
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Unless you are luck master and pull 3 sb trait Azerite pieces

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From weekly chest

cold meteor
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^

severe raven
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wheres sb helm drop?

spare tree
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I just got a laser matrix helm off heroic Mythrax and my dps went up nearly 1k

sly kestrel
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I don't think SB mythic help does exist

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helm*

strange python
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guys can the battlefield focus proc on pve mobs?

spare tree
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Yeh it’s the siege of boralus

hushed pulsar
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i got a 370 arhcive helm which I suppose im using now lol

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since the fun got gutted

woven bane
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So the uldir traits are BiS but only inside uldir?

hushed pulsar
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only archive

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lazer matrix is still great but not as good as it was

woven bane
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But archive is useless outside of uldir right?

strange python
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Outside of uldir use 3x ss

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Imo

cold meteor
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^

hushed pulsar
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really? ss is so far down the sims now

cedar kelp
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mythics will be 3x ss

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for sure

proud cargo
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do you refresh bleeds with exsanguinate?

cedar kelp
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never

calm marsh
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@cedar kelp nope 1 is enough.. just want the 3 combopts.. but 2nd and 3rd not gonna do much.. rather have other traits

strange python
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Anytime you can stealth before pull and stuff dies durin garrote SS will be better

cedar kelp
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^

cold meteor
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^

vestal geyser
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hey can i get someone to tell my what im doing wrong here

woven bane
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So 1 SS and the other 2 just take what sims better

strange python
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your rapture and garotte uptime is crappy @vestal geyser

outer adder
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are people actually thinking of jumping back on the SB train? or is that just a lul

steep obsidian
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@vestal geyser I dont know if you had downtime but your garrote and rupture uptimes suck ass

proud cargo
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do you use CT for ST?

steep obsidian
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65% garotte 73% ruptuer is terrible

lost mason
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how does archive of the titan work

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new traits on raid hear?

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gear*

steep obsidian
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fix ui to yell at you with something obvious when that stuff drops

hushed pulsar
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archive is basically just 200+ agility for the dungeon

vestal geyser
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oh wow ya i forgot i could look at uptime

strange python
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also g m g r in opener?

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that moment when battlefield focus is siming better than ss

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..

hushed pulsar
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rhaast that caps your combo points

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overcaps*

eager cobalt
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Man this nerf is massive

strange python
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i already miss my 29k garrote ticks

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Yeah @vestal geyser levifhas that the log he linked

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wasnt busted at all

hushed pulsar
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my favourite part is the bit where we can't farm new azerite that isn't 340

eager cobalt
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I might be done with this xpac if this is how it's going to be

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azerite is a fucking awful system

hushed pulsar
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^

mint osprey
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^^^^

eager cobalt
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Once again blizzard manages to fuck people that hate raiding

strange python
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so many tears whats wrong with u ppl xD

hushed pulsar
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i just want to be able to farm azerite

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no tears lol

mint osprey
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Me to

eager cobalt
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@strange python I really don't like raiding over m+. I can't get azerite gear from m+

mint osprey
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Too

eager cobalt
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I don't want to raid and pray to the gods Blizz doesn't nerf my traits

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and make me farm more shitty raids

lusty narwhal
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Sim higher with 1x dagger in the back, 1x Ss and 1x laser than 2x ss and 1x laser

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Lul

hushed pulsar
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topkek

eager cobalt
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I'm glad they got rid of tier sets, but the current azerite system and mad hatter balance blizz has is just too much

opal mason
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has anyone tested 1x SS 2x DD for pve/pvp?

strange python
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Its worse for me

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Than 1xblightborne

opal mason
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i guess my main question is, does DD dmg bonus off of TB?

late niche
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Yis

hushed pulsar
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it's ALL nature damage

severe raven
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wait TB is still viable?

hushed pulsar
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it always was

severe raven
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they nerfed it

strange python
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tb sims 200 dps higher eventhough i have 20% haste

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Signficantly better for my toon now than exsang

severe raven
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why does hemo site say it sucks

spare tree
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Playing without as feels so shit, is the rotation on ravenholdt optimal?

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Ss*

severe raven
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oh I thought you were talking about the trait

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thunders blast

hasty sonnet
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TB simming 5 dps more than exsg lulz

opal mason
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no, toxic blade XD

hushed pulsar
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im keeping 1 ss i think, i love the cp's

opal mason
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thats kind of my thought as well XD

severe raven
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honestly SS is shit now

strange python
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I had the same feeling as you guys about losing the combo points but really

severe raven
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2xSB (if not 3 SB) and 1 DD

mild basin
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even for M+?

zinc skiff
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Do we try and keep CT up on 2 target cleave

strange python
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The rotation is pretty similar without it just only one garrote to start

severe raven
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m+ 3SS

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if you want trash dgm\

strange python
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nothing beats SS for m+

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And blightborne crushes 1xss ST

spare tree
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I feel like people are trolling with the sb shit, or they just don’t have any 355’s or 370’s from raid so they haven’t a better option....

opal mason
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i cant get an answer in pvp, is 1x SS + 2x DD good for pvp for us?

strange python
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i mean archive is pretty good now but not outside of uldir eh?

eager cobalt
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Time to play Lock or Warrior 😉

zinc skiff
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Yeah but guys, do we try and keep CT up on 2 target cleave?

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Or do we say fuck it and just enven

strange python
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you always want 1 ss in pvp for the combopoints

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look at TMPikaboo

spare tree
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Laser matrix on a 370 stomps on sb 340 even if our chest and shoulders have sb. Are sims even able to calculate proper usage of sb?

strange python
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I know nothing about pvp lol

ripe comet
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is Double SB really worth it tho ? atleast for uldir it seems bad if you don't Stack it 3 times and with the achieve buff i don't Think skipping in the 370 is worth it and with all the m+ Trash aoe traits Seem mostly better ... or am i completely wrong here?

silent breach
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whats sb short for?

hushed pulsar
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sharpened blades

silent breach
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ty

hushed pulsar
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throw knife playstyle kek

strange python
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i mean its gonna get nerfed again (SB)

severe raven
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SB is the best trait OUTSIDE of the Uldir traits

strange python
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its even bis for Sub

silent breach
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yea i dont like it that much

strange python
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The best parses on warcraft logs rn are using 3x SB

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sub also wants 3xss

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SB*

cold stream
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Are we still delaying second vendetta to line up with vanish?

strange python
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its gonna get nerfed again, 1 week from now remind me

vestal abyss
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Yeah

ripe comet
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but in like 2 weeks when we have LM or achieve +5 it definatly falls behind and Farming azerit gear is a pain memes

eager cobalt
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Like a lot of people have said

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the current azerite system is fucking awful

ripe comet
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true

eager cobalt
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A lot of people don't want to do raids for azerite

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m+ needs to drop that shit

strange python
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well they are forcing you now

hushed pulsar
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i wish they'd just buff everything TO ss standards

silent breach
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i just love it how i swaped specs 3 times in less then a month, farm azarite get the items, traits get nerfed

hushed pulsar
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I feel weaker than ever at 120

strange python
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Shoulders are so painful to get

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Forme

ripe comet
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well de only got 1 piece of raid shoulders

eager cobalt
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time to do mythic 0's again

strange python
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oh look we spent so much of our budget for this awesome azerite system and first raid. wait our traits suck and people are only playing mythic plus. lets nerf everything

hushed pulsar
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m+ is where the fun is

hexed root
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!wa

prisma monolithBOT
hushed pulsar
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pushing keys is FUN

eager cobalt
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lol

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Too bad that blizzard is going to add maybe 1 or two more dungeons this xpac

slender pewter
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Wait so are any websites updated with the nerf?

flat laurel
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So we still go 3x SS in m+?

eager cobalt
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Yeah

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no

hushed pulsar
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there's no suramar equivalent, if they don't add a new questline or set of dungeons they'll lose everyone lol

slender pewter
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Bloodmallet? Herodamage?

ripe comet
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Thinking about stacking 2 Blightborne + SS die mythic+ and 1 SS/Blightborn/ Achieve for raid

eager cobalt
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I really wish that the B-team at blizzard wasn't so bad

flat laurel
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Then Why tf is people saying that

hasty sonnet
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just SIM yo self.

hushed pulsar
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legion for me was a high point

slender pewter
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I don't have all the gear to sim the traits

hasty sonnet
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Not you

strange python
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i guess its time to farm more pvp then

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easy azerite farm

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upgrade it to glad level

ripe comet
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at this point Blightborne looks like the only decent trait for aoe and boss dmg

hushed pulsar
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lol only 1600 rating here, im mostly pve though

strange python
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the thing is

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they said they want you to have multiple pieces for different situations

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so there shouldnt be a best in slot piece

hasty sonnet
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Currently, LM has been in every simmed set ( FOR MYSELF )

ripe comet
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but you can't switch in m+ without leaving the instance , so you gotta find a compromise here , and SB is friggin awefull for aoe

strange python
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doesnt LM pull everything in m+

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well

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you have affixes you gear around

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i wouldnt run with 3x ss in high fortifide keys because trash isnt dying first garrote

ripe comet
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even in tyranical weeks you prolly fight Trash longer then bosses if you don't Push extremely high Keys right now

spare tree
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Does lm really pull shit you aren’t in combat with? I’m noticing I hit the whole damn trainings dummy room in daz

strange python
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yea fk that

snow orchid
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it does

median mason
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They announced whats happening in the future

strange python
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never use LM in m+ i guess

median mason
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But you want a new questline?

strange python
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unless you want to troll pugs

median mason
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Im confused

eager cobalt
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@median mason Where did they announce?

spare tree
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I’m getting sick of this bullshit

median mason
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Check wowhead

strange python
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the best change they can introduce right now is azerite dropping in m+

fiery cradle
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we outyea

strange python
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damn devy get some new trinkets

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jeez they bad lul

fiery cradle
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wana know whats fucked

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i have other ones

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just not good dones

eager cobalt
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No new dungeons plannned

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ay lmao

strange python
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just grind freehold 24 7

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it will drop eventually

fiery cradle
#

wana see somewthing fucked hold up

eager cobalt
#

New Borefronts, new raids is all that they announced

#

Blizzard, why do you hate your fans?

strange python
#

they are in wod mode right now

hushed pulsar
#

i'm fine with warfront as long as they add some complexity and ALLOW US TO LOS

ripe comet
#

but without SS stacking is there still a way to play a bleed Stack without Shooting yourself in the foot? i like it so much more then Poison :(

strange python
#

8.2 will be selfie camera update, instagram implementation

ripe comet
#

bleed build Not stack

eager cobalt
#

Warfronts are fucking terrible

#

afaik you can't lose

#

just afk

median mason
#

Yall are so negative

eager cobalt
#

receive free loot

scenic nacelle
#

you can lose

ripe comet
#

you can actually lose

hushed pulsar
#

they need to make this shit a challenge

#

not baby us into free gear

strange python
#

this is why you dont pre order games anymore

ripe comet
#

the 15 People afking are the Challenge lul

strange python
#

they cut half the budget once the target is hit

#

before the game comes even out omegalul

hushed pulsar
#

1 person can win warfronts by themselves though

#

without difficulty

mellow cypress
#

so how are yall liking double dose?

#

i cant keep up with the weekly azerite changes between specs lol

strange python
#

yea im at 8k azerite reforge

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im done

untold snow
#

isnt ss still bis for m+ tho?

lilac lily
#

I sim 0.5% higher with 2x DD 1x Archive and 0.8% higher with 1x DD 1x SS 1x Archive

#

🤔

eager cobalt
#

reduce gold from follower board

#

make crafting professions all BoP

broken fiber
#

Dont have enough gold to reforge trait PepeHands

hushed pulsar
#

i have the gold i just dont want to deal with it

ripe comet
#

i mean in the positive side we can now sie all 370 pieces instead of only the SS one ^^

gloomy stump
#

@eager cobalt only that you can actualy lose

hushed pulsar
#

i'll happily play with subpar traits for a smoother playstyle

ripe comet
#

use

eager cobalt
#

I honestly don't get why I can't sell crafted 355/370gear

fringe zodiac
#

Is there a cap how much reforging can cost?

ripe comet
#

it goes atleast up to 41k

mellow cypress
#

so i need to keep my SS azerite gear for m+?

fringe zodiac
#

Jesus

ripe comet
#

thats the highest i've seen

fiery cradle
chrome ledge
#

yeah i dunno either, do we still run ss for m+?

hushed pulsar
#

at least 1 for m+

ripe comet
#

what happend to dinoborn charm btw ? even the 340 sims awefully high on bloodmallet now

strange python
#

can anyone who plays on NA say what weekly conquest item you get this time?

naive scarab
#

Okay so yes, my dps went down overnight by 5%... but now we can equip our AotT 370 gear AND don't forget people that Rogues scale better than other classes with stat increases so fear not we'll be just fine like always

strange python
#

we are still m+ utility gods

delicate gull
#

where in the bible does it say rogues scale better

chrome ledge
#

and did blizz fix the garrote bug?

naive scarab
#

facts

placid elbow
#

meeehhh, either the people i'm raiding with are no good or Assassin Rogues are still in a good spot lol

naive scarab
#

not sure about garrote bug

ripe comet
#

relaxv as it is tradition

hushed pulsar
#

well historicaly we have scaled with stats pretty hard

chrome ledge
#

guess ima go test it now

spiral snow
#

3x SS still sims higher for me than 1x or 2x. This is even when there is +15 ilvl difference.

placid elbow
#

i'm 357 and was outdpsing majority of 363+

strange python
#

can someone please have a look what conquest item you get this week

#

(NA)

ripe comet
#

you play bleed build zem?

delicate gull
#

conquest item is some shit gloves pretty sure

peak sapphire
#

gloves

fiery cradle
#

i think gloves @strange python

strange python
#

feelsbad

hushed pulsar
#

same for EU garbage gloves

spiral snow
#

korny exsan with haste/crit being - simmed everything

naive scarab
#

so how do these +5 and +10 array stacks work?

#

only good inside uldir?

fiery cradle
#

yee

ripe comet
#

Yeah i still sommer higher with exsang But i Sommer higher with poison then exsang now

naive scarab
#

just got 370 AotT chest so wanna understand how it works ... is it "always on" inside uldir?

chrome ledge
#

garrote bug is not fixed FeelsBadMan

ripe comet
#

and i frigging Love exsang , which is the real bummer

fiery cradle
#

@naive scarab yes you get the primary stat anywhere and the secondary inside ulddir

spiral snow
#

korny what difference is in the dps?

naive scarab
#

ahhh got it

broken fiber
#

Nerfing garrote and not fixing the bug OMEGALUL

delicate gull
#

i like the idea of exsanguinate, i hate how we have to delay everything to optimally play it

naive scarab
#

thanks

placid elbow
#

Exsang has much higher burst

#

I don't like the play style of Exsang

ripe comet
#

for me even with 3 SS like 450 dps difference

placid elbow
#

i'd prefer TB

strange python
#

i never understood what exactly is bugged

chrome ledge
#

but my garrote on 3 target with trait didnt do that much more than normal garrote on 4 targets

obsidian ridge
#

is raidbots updated for the SS nerf or do I still have to enter that custom line?

keen cradle
#

it is on nightly

ripe comet
#

@strange python if you use a 4th garrote in ans min while you have SS buffed garrotes Running all garrotes Loose the SS Buff

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on any mob

strange python
#

😮

ripe comet
#

frigging German t9

#

which basically means you Loose dmg using garrote for 18 secs After applying it out of stealth

fathom echo
#

anyone tried posion build over bleeds

vocal dock
#

i sim higher as the "psn" build

ripe comet
#

i did , does more dmg now, plays awefull and has Power Burst

alpine cave
#

I don't know why ppl are picking 3 Garrote

ripe comet
#

lower burst

green saffron
#

Hi, does raidbots sim calculated AoTitan trait as in raid or not? I have Titan 355 shoulder and SS 340 shoulder. Don't know which one is better for MD+.

alpine cave
#

They use with exsanguinate ?

#

Is that best?

#

or Burst potential

hushed pulsar
#

simbot is without uldir bonus i believe

delicate gull
#

@green saffron it will sim based on however many stacks you should have if you do it on raidbots

ripe comet
#

People ussed 3SS because in bleed it was the best Single target and the best for m+ trash

inland path
#

raidbots is not updated on eu?

alpine cave
#

I see

ripe comet
#

you Need to Sim nightly afaik

alpine cave
#

In my sims uldir bonus is better than 3 garrotes

#

That's why I doubt about that

#

but world top 1 guys are picking it

vocal dock
#

i mean your gonna want one SS

inland path
#

im simming nightly

#

unless i lost 200 dps idk?

ripe comet
#

ofc, inside the raid ist frigging busted because of the 2nd Stat sticking

alpine cave
#

So, Fetid Devourer is a must Token use for reroll

#

Thanks

ripe comet
#

i guess i really Gonna farm Blightborne azerite now , Sounds fun ~. ~

grave elk
#

anyone link me a macro for tricks to go onto my tank?

alpine cave
#

yes , focus tank

lilac coral
#

parses from tonight were kinda crap as expected but at least i got the zul shoulders

alpine cave
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/cast [@focus] Trick of the Trades

strange python
#

#showtooltip
/cast [@tanksname] Tricks of the Trade

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always change the name be4 the dungeon

#

best way

#

having tank focus is just bad

alpine cave
#

other macros is

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/focus mouseover

vocal dock
#

i got the haste trinket tn and my darkmoon deck sims higher lul

alpine cave
#

so you can always focus tank

#

and use above macro

#

not only tank you can focus everyone in 2 v 2 or 3 v 3

#

This macro can swap tank easily

magic pasture
#

wait, is blightborne good? bloodmallet show sharpened & DD above blightborne

alpine cave
#

Like MOTHER , main tank is going to other room and ob tank is tanking

#

so you can focus offtank

inland path
#

is EU raidbots actually update cus i lost like 200 dps?

tulip willow
#

so is exang or posion better

strange python
#

in icyveins/bloodmallet what does archive+10/5 mean?

dire spoke
#

theorycrafters did

alpine cave
#

I think poison for Raid

wintry parcel
#

So long as you're running the crit/haste enchants, does it realistically matter which one's on mh/oh?

alpine cave
#

Exsang is just for Burst potential to go Vanity over other DPS

#

Same goes with Tyr M+ boss

#

I mean poison is also good for Tyr M+

#

but if all DPS are big Dic and you want to go above them

#

Exsang is good

lilac lily
#

Is there a poison focused build now? Or is it just TB?

strange python
#

oh its in pins nvm

serene nacelle
#

@wintry parcel It doesn't matter

inland path
#

wtf is going on

#

im simming 300 dps more now

#

im so fking confused

alpine cave
#

Uldir array is now added

#

that's why

inland path
#

i see

#

well

#

i gained dps then

worldly mantle
#

Is it worth to keep 1 SS trait for the opener/extra cp?

grave elk
#

for tricks of trade do i have to be on the add that i want to redirect to tank?

#

or do i just target the tank and hit tricks?

worldly mantle
#

Target the tank and tricks

strange python
#

nah -600dps on ST and -3k dps on AoE

#

not so much

#

with 2x SS and 1x LM

undone cairn
#

you guys are still running 3x SS on m+ right?

zinc skiff
#

ye

strange python
#

yes

zinc skiff
#

But guys, do we try and keep CT up on 2 target cleave?

strange python
#

i dont

undone cairn
#

No

#

Don't do that

zinc skiff
#

Thats sad.

#

I want all the bleeds

hushed pulsar
#

x2 garrote then upkeep ruptures

zinc skiff
#

kidney bleed, CT, garrot, rupture

#

mmm

undone cairn
#

Garrote and ruptures is all you need

#

Bb

zinc skiff
#

Die slowly

#

muhahaha

#

Aight thanks team

strange python
#

kidney and ct bleed suck

hushed pulsar
#

^^^

zinc skiff
#

YEAH BUT MY CLASS FANTASY, OK?

strange python
#

ccompared to rupture and garrote

hushed pulsar
#

i use kidney in pvp

strange python
#

same

static tapir
#

When do i want to refresh garotte / rupture when i Used exsang?

hushed pulsar
#

i was killing horde in their capital city before for the call to arms zuldazar :^)

#

when it runs out

#

never overwrite empowered bleeds

clear harbor
#

So would you rather run exsang or toxic blades now?

static tapir
#

So like when its 1 sec or less

hushed pulsar
#

either

#

the actual talents are fairly balanced now tbh

#

depends on how you want to play

#

@static tapir and yeha that's right

static tapir
#

Ty

clear harbor
#

So i just stay with 3x ss and exsang for now ty arko

hushed pulsar
#

yeah that's optimal for m+

#

at least from what i've heard

burnt kernel
#

Simc is really pissing me off. I sim with 0 Array buffs just to see, and it's saying that my 355 helm with Laser matrix and 370 chest with archive of the titans is better than 3x SS. But when I test both setups on training dummies, it proves the exact opposite, by like 2.5k

hushed pulsar
#

well yeha

#

sims play perfectly

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you do not

#

plus target dummies will have differing stats than your sim

dire spoke
#

I doubt you used flask food pots and BL on target dummy

hushed pulsar
#

good point

burnt kernel
#

in 3 minutes, the Lasers went off twice

hushed pulsar
#

yikers

burnt kernel
#

like, I mid as well keep 3x SS if the lasers are BS

hushed pulsar
#

oh dear lord they're making a live action avatar TLA Netflix must burn

inland path
faint vale
#

You are comparing 2 minutes fighting vs a total of 30 days fighting. You can be lucky/unlucky with procs

buoyant bay
#

anyone else having trouble with uploading stuff to WCL. says its been in queue for quite some time

inland path
#

how can i sim 0 arrays on raidbots

limpid kiln
#

what are the best azerite traits to go for right now? Tier 1 and 2

hushed pulsar
#

EU is about to reset so it might be busy, i'm anticipating my chests now

dense fern
#

so sharpened blade for single target now eh?

hushed pulsar
#

uldir traits for uldir

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ss x3 for everything else

limpid kiln
#

ok thank you

dense fern
#

even tho SB traits sim higher for outside of uldir single target?

static tapir
#

Azerit system really Sucks it feels like playing on ptr, my stash ja full of items

simple jackal
#

I dont know what to do. After the ss nerf outlaw is simming higher by ~ 400dps and I dont see where i could grab azerite gear with double dose or sharpened blade above 340. Any ideas?

inland path
#

my sub sims 150 dps higher

hushed pulsar
#

sb traits will of course sim higher in st but the damage loss on aoe isnt worth it

inland path
#

gonna just stay sin on the fights im sin on and swap to sub for shit liek zul etc

velvet kernel
#

so

#

i want sharpened blades now?

#

or double dose?

cinder palm
#

Sharpened blades seemed pretty good

#

I only have 2 though

inland path
#

i guess all of the gear i spent all day farming

#

cancelled out he nerfs

#

lol

velvet kernel
#

it seems shit to play tho

cinder palm
#

Well it charges fast

#

With auto attacks

velvet kernel
#

still i found ss fun to play

cinder palm
#

It’s ok, not terrible but kind of stupid

#

I like SS better

static tapir
#

SS trait for dungeons on herodamage are like 4th worst right now, what shall i Go now?

atomic karma
#

so with this reorignation array thing
so its promoting
to have shitty lfr uldir azerite

strange python
#

alright I got to pvp rating for 365 gear, so I can get 365 dagger drop right? but only from rated wins?

velvet kernel
#

@atomic karma why do you say that?

atomic karma
#

well im asuuming you onl y get the reorigniation array from uldir azerite pieces

#

not m+ cache pieces

ripe comet
#

because Shitty lfr uldir gear with busted bonus starts still beats Everything in uldir

velvet kernel
#

and?

ripe comet
#

atleast one piece

velvet kernel
#

you dont do hc or normal?

atomic karma
#

yeah but i might not get the drop

#

form heroic or mythic

#

so your saying my 350 raidfinder piece will be better than my 385 m+ cache one just cause of the array x1000

velvet kernel
#

well only like

#

one

alpine cave
#

I simed world 1st io rating rogue with 3ss. He is just around 13700. Those who above 14800 DPS are not 3ss

#

May he aimed for M+ trash

ripe comet
#

a 340 uldir piece with achieve beats Everything besides Double Dose / Dagger / SB ( if you have multiple) on 385

#

But it will even beat These pieces in like 2 weeks

static tapir
#

This achieve thing is just Active in uldir right?

ripe comet
#

@alpine cave does he use Storm as 100 Talent?

#

yes

static tapir
#

And what should i aim for m+?

ripe comet
#

most People in here say staying 3xSS , im Thinking about 1xSS + 2x Blightborn Infusion atleast in fortified weeks nur idk

alpine cave
#

@ripe comet Crimsom Tempest

velvet kernel
#

legit they took a fun trait

#

and fucked ituo

#

up

ripe comet
#

Yeah, German translation , thats what i meant with Storm

lone junco
#

"fun" like g g g Ct 25k dps.

ripe comet
#

thats m+ yeah

static tapir
#

Live testing

vast mulch
#

3xSS until blizzard nerfs it again

#

fuck it

lone junco
#

same. I did well in M+. not as well as yesterday, but fuck that sharp knife rotation.

#

I threw it at some adds.

velvet kernel
#

who the fuck binds garrote to g

stuck shuttle
#

yeah miss me with that SB build

lone junco
#

/cast garrote

#

/cast Mutilate

stuck shuttle
#

never going to run that shit trait

sharp wren
#

Are the azerite changes in affect. Like the shrouded suff nerf?

velvet kernel
#

so people are staying ss?

lone junco
#

I ran it. and dps was super low then BING 50k knife

#

it was too weird for me. and zero cleave.

stuck shuttle
#

yeah no thanks

#

i was just pumping out 20k on M Vectis

#

can't do that with SB

sage sigil
#

got a shrouded suffocation azerite piece from weekly cache 😿

lone junco
#

you can throw at an add

#

i did get an orb on Zekvoz and vanish knife.

stuck shuttle
#

vanish garroting add is just as nice

#

lines up quite well

ripe comet
#

1 SS is still good @sage sigil

#

it makes the Opener so so so much better

hushed pulsar
#

@sage sigil yeah you're good on that one lucky munchkin

lone junco
#

ill be 1 Uldir. 1ss. 1 ditb.

#

w/e

sage sigil
#

i already had one from raid....

hushed pulsar
#

double lucky

#

i haven't got one

ripe comet
#

then you either keep it for m+

burnt kernel
#

@vast mulch I'm with you on that, these proc traits, aren't f'n procing, this whole azerite trait system is horse sh*t

ripe comet
#

or you GeForce the piece from uldir to achieve

sage sigil
#

i'll use for m+ but is it worth getting one origination ray ?

velvet kernel
#

yes

#

massively

burnt kernel
#

3x SS until Santa crashes into my chimney

velvet kernel
#

for riads

mighty elm
#

Did the SS nerf Hit is hard enough?

#

Us*

sage sigil
#

yea i mean for M+ sorry, like how do i sim that ?

burnt kernel
#

it hit hard, but not hard enough to switch

velvet kernel
#

it does not work for m+

alpine cave
#

Pick 1 SS on Chest (Fetid Devourer) Pick Array at Shoulder form (Zul) and just pick talent from Mytrax head

#

I think that will be better

lone junco
#

@sage sigil for M+ i sim 6T 20s. or 40s. no buffs. depending on fort tbh.

alpine cave
#

best rogues wearing 340 head from Shrine and, 340 shoulder from WQ is just for M+

sage sigil
#

@velvet kernel yea but herodmg and bloodmallet still show it as a top trait for Dungeons

mighty elm
#

Sweet I’m just an assa rogue in disguise , happy you guys got balanced down. rogue

velvet kernel
#

@sage sigil do they?

burnt kernel
#

in raid I am running 370 chest SS, 370 shoulders with Archive of TT, 340 helm with SS. All the other traits are BS. The proc traits DO NOT PROC, and simc is full of sh*t

sudden trench
#

@mighty elm so you are a assas rogue in the assas channel in disguise?

#

how does that even make sense

burnt kernel
#

in m+ 3x SS, eat my a$$ blizz

mighty elm
#

I’m a sub rogue

#

@sudden trench

sudden trench
#

not what you typed

#

Dj: Sweet I’m just an assa rogue in disguise , happy you guys got balanced down. rogue

mighty elm
#

Oh rip :/

kind stump
#

a$$

mighty elm
#

You know what I meant

sudden trench
#

meh, sin stll > than all atm

#

pvp you hit like a wet noodle aswell

tiny vapor
#

So guys, how is Sin in m+ after changes ?

radiant flame
#

TB better now for me feelsboringman

opaque island
#

How's nightborne work for rogue?

ripe comet
#

i'd just be Happy if they could fix the frigging es garrote Bug, prolly would net us more dmg even After the tuning

delicate crater
#

`not sure if there is a bug or something with Raidbots.....but with 3x SS before the nerf I was doing 13,550 dps. After the nerf it went to 13,150

#

tonight I got a 355 Laser Matrix helm, and it shot my dps up to 13,750

sage sigil
#

the helm, is like top in sims

#

or that trait is sorry

brazen tulip
#

best pvp opener for assassin?

delicate crater
#

so is it "real" or is it just simming too high?

peak sapphire
ripe comet
#

with every week you get a buff in uldir with a uldir trait if you kill 3 bosses

#

thats Why it sims so high

delicate crater
#

is it assuming I have the buff already?

#

because I didn't equip it until after the raid

lone junco
#

is counts from your simc import somehow.

delicate crater
#

no buff currently

lone junco
#

but idk

ripe comet
#

doesent matter if you have the Item or not , its a hidden quest

#

so if you get one now you still get all the buffs from the previous weeks

dense quarry
#

Is there any detailed explanation on how to optimally use Sharpened Blades or is it just wait till 30 and throw it?

ripe comet
#

get 30 , throw one , Stack back up

#

using it before should make the trait weaker afaik

smoky prism
#

so is only 1 SS the build now?

silk carbon
#

Hi

#

is the 40% nerf to ss live?

ripe comet
#

yes

silk carbon
#

and what do i take now 😦

ripe comet
#

what are you doing? raid or m+ ?

silk carbon
#

I do both

hushed pulsar
#

m+ 3x ss

silk carbon
#

but would pref to know for raid

hushed pulsar
#

raid uldir shit

#

maybe 2x dd

#

with archive is good

ripe comet
#

in raid uldir shit + 1SS + whatever

#

in m+ you're fine

silk carbon
#

ah ok does raidbots take into account the nerf already?

flat laurel
#

So m+ we still go 3x SS?

ripe comet
#

on nightly it should

frank wyvern
#

sorry, just noticed the same question above

severe raven
silk carbon
#

So now with the SS nerf are 355 items better than 340 liek they wanted or do traits still matter more?

acoustic lion
#

Thats sin :p

sage sigil
#

whats a good addon people like, that shows bleed on the targets hp bar ?

severe raven
#

tidyplates

ripe comet
#

kui name plates will do that

#

or tidi

#

tidy

sand canyon
#

@acoustic lion yea i bet 10k is max u can do as sin in fh LOL

acoustic lion
#

😄

silk carbon
#

do traits still matter more than ilvl or did they fix it liek they hoped?

sand canyon
#

i guess the guy is new geared or died alot or whatever

#

nerf should be not more then 15% overall

silk jolt
#

guys i did a +10 this week but with a friends key - should i delete my own level 3 key or will it auto upgrade when i open chest?

misty remnant
ripe comet
#

it will clipse

sage sigil
#

@silk carbon mine is still saying my 340 SS shoulder are beating my 370 shoudlers

ripe comet
#

you get a new Key pur of your chest

#

a 9

misty remnant
#

with SB - i use it every 30stacks?

silk jolt
#

nice thanks

strange python
#

@sand canyon you gonna still run sin?

sand canyon
#

way more sub

#

but sin maybe in some dungeons

silk carbon
#

ok thanks for the help guys

sand canyon
#

atal/kr

zinc cliff
#

so is SS meh now?

sand canyon
#

ss is still fine

long hill
#

@sand canyon feelings feelings

sage sigil
#

@sand canyon what traits you running for mythic + as sub ?

strange python
#

@zinc cliff ss is still best but nowhere near as potent

sand canyon
#

its just not op anymore

arctic crow
#

sims telling me to drop 2 of my 3 SS for a Dagger and blight infusion

#

gets me 100 dps

supple wolf
#

Fking passivs as top dps.... horrible design as always

fast nacelle
#

3x ss and exsang is still gucci for m+

zinc cliff
#

mmk, just double checking, cuz bloodmallet is saying SB is best

severe raven
#

@strange python SS is best?

fast nacelle
#

for raid however people need to adapt

severe raven
#

isnt SB best?

arctic crow
#

i heard its good if u have 3

#

which is hard to do

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2 is prob ok

strange python
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@severe raven outside of archive and matrix i believe so.

zinc cliff
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@fast nacelle what if you have 2x ss and exsang

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go toxic or stay sang?

arctic crow
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sim it

fast nacelle
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sim it

sand canyon
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sub traits are super close

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just played top 2

severe raven
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honestly, SB > SS (2x)

frail widget
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Sims are way off if you’re using laser matrix

severe raven
frail widget
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Pretty sure it’s assuming I have a 10 stack or some shit

severe raven
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SS better for m+

frail widget
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With laser matrix

fast nacelle
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thats my go to for raid

frail widget
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My sims went up my dps went down lol

severe raven
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what traits @fast nacelle

strange python
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@severe raven that was not like that last night

frail widget
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Somethings fucked

fast nacelle
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2x twist the knife 1xarchive

prisma monolithBOT
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Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.

mystic charm
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!ss

strange python
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Let me check some other bits on herodamage see what else changed since the update dated 18th

fast nacelle
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changing apl could bring dps gain but cba

frail widget
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It’s the sims. If u have raid trait they’re simming as if you have a bunch of stacks I bet

strange python
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Shows 3xss as the highest sim dps

severe raven
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what about raid traits?

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those sims cant be right

strange python
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I dont know why they are not on there. Reallt odd

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They were updated last night

severe raven
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updated before patch?

strange python
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But i was expecting archive 2x something

severe raven
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yeah

elder cypress
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Bloodmallet is up2date

severe raven
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link?

elder cypress
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Sticky

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Im on Phone

oak grail
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How are we looking after the nerf? Anyone actually tested it themselves?

frank wyvern
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looking the same 😄

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performing, not so much

severe raven
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bloodmallet wtf?

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swirling sands?

fiery cradle
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yeet

blissful dove
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assassination actually dead in m+ , gg blizz

chrome ledge
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The nerf is out on eu too right?

long hill
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Yes

chrome ledge
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Honestly if blizz fixes the garrote bug then sin is still in a really good spot. Im still doing pretty good dps

blissful dove
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I was trying to stay optimistic about it, but it is roooough.

oak grail
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Any streamers currently streaming so i can check it out?

long hill
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@sand canyon i think is streaming

oak grail
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Awesome, have to decide spec before opening the weekly chest 😉

magic fossil
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today nattle will stream all day, good guy, knows a lot about rogues, /nattle

lone junco
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Are you Natrle.

zealous dew
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noobe 😃

magic fossil
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What? haha no, i like his yt videos.

obsidian ridge
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musclebrahtv streaming in like 5 minutes

lone junco
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Ayy.

buoyant tartan
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so is ss still viable in raid?

obsidian ridge
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according to the 1 billion sims i did? no

lone junco
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. @zealous dew did you get to enjoy some 3x SS ?

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Before the nerf

onyx rock
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Nice Setup @fast nacelle

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Good Luck on Chest

true thistle
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are herodamage assasination T22 18 sept actual combinations affected by yesterday's 40% ss nerf?

lone junco
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@buoyant tartan I'm bouncing around. But 1uldir. 1ss 1ditb.

strange python
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whats the deal with archive of the titans

lone junco
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Before that was 2sharp blade.

fiery cradle
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2 archive 1 dd is what im running lmao

past harbor
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do you guys spec CT for M+?

lone junco
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Idgaf at this point. Just need to read the apl. Etc.

past harbor
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how do i check if CT is better on multi target on sims

lone junco
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Always.

mighty venture
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So is still SS the way to go? Or should we change to TTK?

oak grail
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3x SS has to be the best for mythic + tho?

lone junco
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6t 40. Patchwerk. No buff.

halcyon patio
obsidian ridge
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It probably is

frank wyvern
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double dose simming higher then SS for me on nightly 😮

lone junco
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SS was fine tonight. Not as great.

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M+

atomic karma
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i dont really understand so with the azerite they are forcing you to use the uldir azerite pieces in raid

lone junco
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Pb is garbage imo.

atomic karma
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then change gear for m+

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with diff azerite

sullen robin
severe raven
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@halcyon patio ya dont tunnel

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😉

halcyon patio
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i didn't tunnel though

severe raven
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no dmg on warriors?

halcyon patio
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216k

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total

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shit died instantly

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demon hunters melted them

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it's also normall

paper root
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llol

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SS gets nerfed

ebon garden
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385 azerite piece with sharpened blades feelings

silk jolt
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chest had 30 haste/mastery belt GET IN

paper root
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I get 385 azerite with ss in weekly :/

silk jolt
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380*

halcyon patio
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@paper root SS is still okish though

paper root
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got triple now

halcyon patio
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nice so not that bad

paper root
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was missing shoulders

halcyon patio
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archive is simming really fucking high though

severe raven
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thats @ 10stacks

atomic karma
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its on ly simming high for raid

severe raven
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wont have that for 7 more weeks

atomic karma
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outside of raid it doesnt work

fiery cradle
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it sims high even at 3 tbh

atomic karma
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im assuming it doesnt work outsdie of raid

fiery cradle
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the main stat one does

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not secondar

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y

modest zodiac
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The day it gets nerfed FeelsTerriBad

slender smelt
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3ss still a go? How bad is the total dps drop

silk jolt
severe raven
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about 1k

slender smelt
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Have they fixed the ss bug?

severe raven
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no

fiery cradle
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3ss for m+ probs still

slender smelt
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Wtf blizz

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What the actual fuck they did notice the bug did they?

modest zodiac
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Should I go for that SS on my new piece? Or just reroll outlaw and get snake eyes

rigid sky
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Did they? Did you submit a bug?

slender smelt
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Alright death threat going right up to devteam

sick vine
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Is outlaw stronger right now for m+?

outer acorn
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whats better? 340 chest with SS or 385 chest with SoB