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#assassination
edgy latch
severe niche
if only i got mythic mother dagger 😦
i mean
i didnt get rank 1 mother for no reason xd
edgy latch
what traits are you running
severe niche
2 ss 1 lazer
edgy latch
jelly
sweet flame
daggers never
edgy latch
whats a dagger
severe niche
i bonus rolleds mother ring though so
edgy latch
still running 355/345
sweet flame
been spamming 8's, 9,s, 10's all day the last few days and still on 340 daggers 😒
sweet flame
361 with 340 daggers 😦
smoky wind
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u1L9g6cmDqa26paQ5y65XF
why am i simming so damn low
severe niche
severe niche
armory bug
edgy latch
i used sub traits for ghuun yesterday by mistake
strange python
thought he still was
strange python
is sub better than assa in m+? and how is it in raids?
acoustic flame
Sin is best at everything with the "balanced" ss trait
night vale
Yeah sin seems strongest for a lot of m+
ember mountain
belf female stealth animation is 
ember mountain
not with that attitude
strange python
is it worth to get ss instead of 370 raid shoulders or 355 raid helm?
strange python
I dont have gear with it on
edgy latch
you can still sim it
sweet flame
you can do gear compare on raidbots
edgy latch
gear compare
ember mountain
im so much of a sell out that i dont run SS trait
ember mountain
because i dont like it
acoustic flame
but laser is way stronger
sweet flame
none of the other sin traits are very neat tbh
strange python
well I have laser on 355 helm
but I dont think ss of a 340 piece is better thatn the raid 370
but I will check
sweet flame
my 340 shoulders are better than 370 shoulders
ember mountain
none of the other sin traits are very neat tbh
edgy latch
are all of the uldir traits calculated correctly on herodamage?
sweet flame
I mean, snek and deadshot change the outlaw rotation, they at least have some interaction
edgy latch
since they have secondary effects
amber temple
Is it still worth it to triple Garrote wihtout the traits?
sweet flame
pretty sure herodamage is only for the trait itself with no array active
ember mountain
is anyone else super disappointed in trait options?
lone junco
Scent is neat. SS is absurd.
ember mountain
hit the mob a load of times and throw a super stronk dagger
lone junco
The raid use of SS is annoying.
ember mountain
come on blizz what you smoking
lone junco
I wanted mutilate crit like in legion. The 75%
lone junco
But if that one doesn't stack. No good.
dawn merlin
@lone junco i feel you
sweet flame
bad traits prolly
looks like you're using 3x raid pieces
which are prolly worse than 340 pieces with better traits
tame cobalt
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9xcvCaDMUAiEMgFzeiDRet haste not bis anymore 😮
strange python
yeah but one has ss on
ember mountain
wow hes higher ilevel than me
with lower simmed dps
I thought my set up was bad
sweet flame
you also don't have fathoms tbh
which is op af for its item level
better than many 385 trinkets afaik
strange python
is it that good
sweet flame
yes
sweet flame
look at how big fathom's green bar is lol
strange python
so 2nd trinket should be
ember mountain
I use fathoms and dread medal
sweet flame
almost certainly your spyglass
cannonballs are kinda meh outside of simming well
sucks on anything where mobs move
ember mountain
I got an insane dread medal
think its 385 with a slot on it
lmao
still have a 310 ring tho
acoustic lion
Is there any rogue that mind helping me with my opener and rotation on 4-5 mobs pulls? i know the ravenholdt website, but i really cant make it work :/
strange python
I dont know what to use as 2nd
maybe that roll cube ?
from freehold that dice
is that good?
sweet flame
it's ok
galecaller's is best
@acoustic lion garrote x3, put rupture on stuff, FoK, more ruptures
get lots of finishers out for poison procs
put more garrotes out when the first 3 fall off
acoustic lion
Crimson Tempest is the way to go for higher m+ keys right?
sweet flame
don't fresh or apply new ones before they fall off or you lose your SS buff
acoustic lion
and exsan?
acoustic flame
I think exsang depends on your gear
sweet flame
tyrannical I'd PB for sure
acoustic lion
Also, i saw the 16 vod, but was from the healer pov, and their rogue did TONS of dmg, 35k openers etc, i really have no idea how lol
sweet flame
exsang opener with SS traits
acoustic flame
is insane dps
sweet flame
ALL of your damage is in your opener and then whenever vanish is up
covert crag
40k burst with BL
river citrus
why is my conquestpiece 355 when i got challenger last week?
acoustic lion
nivix, do you 3 CB first rupture, then 5 next ?
covert crag
Yes
strange python
how is my opener with exsang?
acoustic lion
Yeah i did, but i honestly dont understand it, cus there's different ones regarding your gear setup and stuff :p
sweet flame
you want shrouded suffocation traits, period. if you don't have them, I'd prolly opt to play sub instead
acoustic lion
"Suffered Suffocation" for X spell, isnt Suffered Suffocation always for garrote?
Sorry for being noob 😄
sweet flame
shrouded suffocation buffs your garrotes from stealth or subterfuge
acoustic lion
Yeah but for example
"No Suffered Suffocation powers for Toxic Blade"
what does that mean?
sweet flame
you have no SS traits and have toxic blade talented
spiral furnace
how do you open in dungeons with exang?
olive shore
@sweet flame so is one trait already justifying sin?
sweet flame
like if you only have one SS trait?
olive shore
yeah
sweet flame
you'd have to sim yourself tbh
stable oxide
When does Exsanguinate Sim higher than PB? is it a stat thingy or a trait thingy
sweet flame
traits
marble hemlock
@spiral furnace 3x garrote into ct, into 2fok into rupture into exsang
sweet flame
@spiral furnace garrote x3, put rupture on stuff, FoK, more ruptures
get lots of finishers out for poison procs
put more garrotes out when the first 3 fall off
acoustic lion
TB is better single target than exsang right?
sweet flame
no
marble hemlock
if none of your initial 3 garrote targets got a DP application from autoattacks, you should rup after 3x Garr and exsang immediately, otherwise you will starve energy
if you do 3xgarr>ct>2fok>rup>exsang, it doesnt really matter how many CP that rupture has, you dont use exsang for damage, you just use it for the increased energy regen from venomous wounds to enable a smooth ramp-up
sweet flame
I'd run PB for tyran week for sure, trash is kind of a joke without fort, assuming you're just doing 10's
CT on fort week maybe, but PB isn't even that bad on aoe/cleave
marble hemlock
theres no reason not to run CT if you can weave it into your aoe without starving on energy
tiny vapor
Yeah pb is best for tyra
vestal abyss
What is CT?
marble hemlock
crimson tempest
sweet flame
crimson tempest
tiny vapor
But can change depending on your group or key lvl
civic palm
WHERE'S MY GIGASPAM?!
marble hemlock
i can spam you in DMs if you want mize
civic palm
Depends on what you spammin bud :3
marble hemlock
no offense, but PB is the lazy mans choice. unless you only have like 15% crit and/or your tank is never pulling more than 2-3 mobs at a time and/or you REALLY need those 2% increased singletarget damage to kill a boss, theres simply no reason not to play CT
olive shore
can someone help me out. why would you cast 3 times garrotte anyway?
strange python
You wouldn't outside aoe
spiral furnace
do you use CT ST ?
marble hemlock
no
unless theres adds spawning that you can hit in addition to the boss, obviously
civic palm
Oh another question to add to the gigaSpam.
marble hemlock
mize stop memeing please 😦
civic palm
You should see the girth of this spam.
civic palm
Get more wDPS.
sweet flame
tru
lone junco
need a 2.6 mh right
lone junco
no buffs?
lone junco
Im still memeing with that rage trinket
cause Fathoms is balls in cleave
but apparently haste is shit tier
so
and that isnt even using the 3rd g
olive shore
when is the right time to use exsg? every time i got all dots up?
which is all the time lol
or at max duration
covert crag
Max pandemic
lone junco
prime quail
Idk what's the prob with exsang usage
Just do your opener
Press vend and exsang
And dance
sweet flame
afk 2min tbh
prime quail
Then restealth and repeat
olive shore
^^
olive shore
never played it. jusst weant to make sure its no rocket science
sweet flame
nerf it so I can go back to meming on outlaw tbh
prime quail
And replaced by something where you need your brain
marble hemlock
doesnt mean theres not a shitton of optimization possible to pull even bigger numbers
sweet flame
I like outlaw cause it's basically GCD capped even with shit gear/no haste
lone junco
g g g ct. doesnt require crit for cp gen. just mastery for scale.
marble hemlock
what about banana for scale?
lone junco
then the fok component requires crit to set up ruptures.
TF bannana trinket would have been great
YOU GET A BANANNA
btw. wtf doesnt fathoms proc on aoe?
prime quail
Well if you wanna be #1 in trash dps then only Ct and g isn't enough m8
lone junco
I was on dummy for like 15 mins, and no double achor.
marble hemlock
30% base crit feels great tho
prime quail
LOL
lone junco
shouldnt have scrapped that blue crit trinket.
edgy latch
no more rogue nerfs pls
marble hemlock
well, i run 2x agi
edgy latch
oh i was scrolled up
marble hemlock
but the siege crit-trinket is great
lone junco
349 is kinda low
prime quail
Crit trinket im 21% without even care
marble hemlock
procs basically every pack
motherlode yday
messed up a lot tho
couldve hit 20k 😦
lone junco
afk work. if there are any sweet tricks. lmk.
marble hemlock
yeah
lone junco
ye
edgy latch
29mil
prime quail
What key
marble hemlock
motherlode10
prime quail
GS?
lone junco
18k is a lot.
sweet flame
hmm, damage seems really high for overall, but idr what overall damage is like for that place
assuming no wipes
marble hemlock
its probably the highest overall you can pull of in any dungeon
lone junco
lots of trash tbh.
marble hemlock
underrot is a close second
sweet flame
yeah, for sure
marble hemlock
i mean you literally do 100% mobcount before 2nd boss and then just do 3 bosses in a row
marble hemlock
permafrost LUL
marble hemlock
yeah
sweet flame
lol
prime quail
Well that alone makes 3-5k more overall dps
marble hemlock
usually did like 3packs at once
sweet flame
wish my guild could put together comps like that consistently tbh
marble hemlock
yeah
lone junco
thats when people talk about ham ct.
orchid sentinel
You speccing ct for that, Seli?
sweet flame
been running with like 3 melee during the day cause no one is on...
lone junco
they dont fucking pull hard enough
lone junco
3k x mob count is greater than env at like 5 mobs non crit.
prime quail
You use CT in your bossrota too ?
lone junco
no.
marble hemlock
no
dense fern
running ct on vekloz feels real good
lone junco
unless there are adds
dense fern
i like bosses that let me run ct
prime quail
Ye Sounds Right
marble hemlock
time to destroy jay/sjele
prime quail
Wish I had a premade
lone junco
CT is >> PB
esp with any kite time ever
Oh, this tank is gonna drag? FUCK YOU ALLL
CTTTT
marble hemlock
half the trash in there shoots the tank
prime quail
Balance Druid
marble hemlock
or, if hes not in range, some other target in melee
prime quail
Or gtfo
marble hemlock
so you constantly take unavoidable damage
lone junco
neat
marble hemlock
thats why last week with necrotic i was dead 24/7
and this week it felt pretty good
prime quail
Balance Druid is so op
lone junco
havent done a high ML been focused on siege
prime quail
In BfA
sweet flame
necro/sanguine was aids in a lot of dungeons tbh
lone junco
I beat our balance hard in siege.
prime quail
Trash can do way too much
lone junco
and he is baller.
prime quail
So balance big pull
lone junco
when we pull 4-6 im a god.
prime quail
Ggez
marble hemlock
frankly
if youre getting beat by anything but a wl right now
youre doing something wrong
sweet flame
doing sanguine without a dk is pretty terrible tbh
prime quail
👍🏼
sweet flame
yeah this week is great
lone junco
they do well ST tho
dense fern
same
prime quail
95% of warlocks are fotm players and suck
marble hemlock
once you get a lock with triple agony traits
he will give you a run for your money
civic palm
Seli seeing M-Zul?
prime quail
Well tbh
sweet flame
^^^^ been running with some agony locks who PUMP
civic palm
200 high health adds > _>
marble hemlock
nah, doing keys now
edgy latch
why siege
prime quail
A balance Druid with 3 shreaking traits is hard too @marble hemlock
prime quail
In burst at least
civic palm
large health pools
strange python
Always fun seeing the Outlaw rogue bursting hard with the aoe only for you to overtake him in like 5-10 seconds
prime quail
The only place Outlaw beats assa
wide delta
@marble hemlock can u pls teach me sin? i pay good.
sweet flame
can they give acrobatic strikes to every rogue spec baseline tbh
fresh bough
!ss
prisma monolithBOT
Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.
marble hemlock
not sure if serious, but you can watch my stream since i frequently answer gameplay questions there 😉
sweet flame
acrobatic strikes feels so nice to play with, always in range npnp
prime quail
Who
velvet kernel
how do yo uaoe in low m+ like +5
sweet flame
with the only aoe skills the spec has
acoustic flame
Poison bomb
velvet kernel
fuck good answer man that helps
velvet kernel
so i melee and let poison bpomb do it
acoustic flame
You play like you always do, maybe go hidden blades as talent for burst
velvet kernel
how do you always play?
sweet flame
check the pinned guide
marble hemlock
PB should only be played if you struggle with maintaining CT, so try it out, and if you see it falling off or youre constantly running out of energy on trash, play PB instead
acoustic flame
I do garrote on 3 different mobs, then ct, then spam fok and apply ruptures
Idk if that's what you're supposed to do though
acoustic flame
yeah, i apply any cp ruptures
sweet flame
troll racial for exsang prolly the biggest impact I've seen a racial have in a long time
marble hemlock
you can do lower CP ones first to keep the spice errr energy flowing
and then refresh those with 5cp ones while maintaining 5CP CTs
velvet kernel
so i do ct even on tyran weeks?
sweet flame
like, the differential between troll and other races is pretty crazy atm
velvet kernel
so i garrote on 3 rupture then ct?
acoustic flame
rupture and ct uses combo points
so you cant do rupture first
have to do ct and then get combo points for rupture
velvet kernel
so i ct first?
acoustic flame
yeah
velvet kernel
kk
acoustic flame
3 garrote into ct
signal summit
Is troll actually that much better , If check bloodmallet its not that strong,
I mean its top, But not like wow
sweet flame
glacial steppe
when should I refresh a normal garotte/rupture?
signal summit
Well overall its only 0.8%
sweet flame
sure, just seems weirdly out of line with the other races
acoustic flame
Considering how insane haste is
signal summit
The graphs on phone is Rip
acoustic flame
it makes sense
spiral furnace
is it worth playing Assa in dungeons above 7 with only 1 SS trait?
calm grail
Man. Did a 8 shrine yesterday. Tank buddy loot specs WW so he can trade with me. Gets 365 GC w/ socket. Best trinket he has and can't trade. 
versed bobcat
Any1 knows if mother laser matrix still bugged? We werent able to kill her cuz of that shit
sweet flame
been hearing it's still bugged, yeah
signal summit
Panda Inc :pogg
versed bobcat
Hope they fix it soon. Kinda hilarious havin a clean pull and 5 dead ppl insta
sweet flame
I'd play troll if they didn't look so bad tbh, until then blood elf for torrent good enough for me
sweet flame
though Nightborne is the best looking horde race imo
strange python
or go for low CP ruptures
glacial steppe
anyone here whos a weakaura genius?
sweet flame
or afk while frozen orb/bladestorm/whatever kills the pack
strange python
Either you Ct and then just rupture 1 target and spam envenom
Or you Ct and rupture multiple targets low CP
sweet flame
I'm a weakauras wizard tbh
strange python
Some packs just die way too fast for it to be worth
The 12 secs on Ct is okay-ish though
strange python
Gib Class Legendary Ring
sweet flame
I mean, toning down the PB damage obv
but having it be more consistent would be nice
strange python
A world where CT gets empowered by Subterfuge
strange python
lmfao
covert crag
nightstalker DS CT
sweet flame
make SS apply to all bleeds tbh
strange python
ussshhhhhhhhhh
Opener would still be the same though
HAHA
New play with buffed SS
glacial steppe
@sweet flame I want my rupture/garrote wa to glow whenever I have to refresh it but i also want it to consider buffs/cp and stuff...is that even possible?
strange python
Garrote Rupture Garrote Vanish Ct Garrote Kidney Shot
surreal portal
hey guys, I wanna ask - how does my rotation go in AoE fights? I go out of stealth and garrote everything. But then, do I try rupturing as many targets as I can for the energy generation or should I use 1 envenom so that my fan of knives can apply poisons at a higher chance?
sweet flame
yeah
strange python
With internal bleeding
sweet flame
prolly not even that hard to setup outside of buffs/cp, which even then wouldn't be that bad with some lua work
feral might have an easily-ish modifiable weakaura that considers blood talons/tigers fury
glacial steppe
basically consider all given situations like exsang, subterfurge and stuff
tight meteor
what do you do when your stat weights say haste but when you change 1 haste gem you sim lower
strange python
Keep the haste gem?????
Sim yourself with the different gem and see what your weights are after that
prime quail
Im feeling pretty good with 18% haste tbh
lament dove
the stats are extremely close to eachother now, so I don't bother to change gems even if it says another stat is best
I mean like you change 4 gems and win maybe 15 dps, not worth it (for me)
so for now I keep my cheap mastery gems since they sim best for 3ss exa anyway, and If I change spec, I live together with the 15 dps debuff
glacial jasper
355 equipped 13750 aimed deeps and haste is still high on my priority list
unreal coyote
haste>agi for me
prime quail
Underrot 1st boss is a nightmare on +10++ with shitty dps
unreal coyote
anything 10+ is nightmare with shitty dps
prime quail
Na thats not true
If those 3 adds appear
You fucked that's just a ez death the 2nd boss is easy doable even with shitty dps
For example
glacial jasper
Last boss of shrine is a shit show and the first boss of temple were a bitch
tight meteor
@strange python i mean i change to gem to haste lol but yeah im not changing it just weird thats all
spiral furnace
is it worth dropping a 385 azerite chest with sharpened blades for a 340 one with shrouded suffocation for M+??
glacial jasper
Well, being any fuck up is a nearly guaranteed wipe
prime quail
Temple of sethralis is a bitch with tyran
The 1st boss almost impossible with more than one melee
glacial jasper
The light shield eats your lunch
prime quail
Well don't hit that
unreal coyote
^
prime quail
But the aoe you get there is retarded
glacial jasper
One or two autos at switch and Gg
wheat zealot
I just got a 395 rot scour ring w/ socket
glacial jasper
Well no shit
spiral furnace
@maiden siren how do you sim for m+?
spiral furnace
raidbots?
unreal coyote
yeh
tight meteor
for higher keys use 3-4 bosses
glacial jasper
Clearly you are trolling I didn’t say it was impossible I said it’s ruff, and that means a small margin for error and super punishing with even small mistakes
maiden siren
im so done right now.. Pala had 370 chest, got 370 chest from weekly. Rogue had 370 cloak from HC, got 370 cloak from M+ cache and 370 cloak from weekly.
glacial jasper
The lightning shield is 50k on high keys with tyr
tight meteor
or just switch when you see him cast loool
maiden siren
blizztard doesnt want me to get gear
spiral furnace
does lightning shield procc off FoK?
spice surge
No
Dont multidot
Every hit increases his energy, thus makes it closer to do the massive aoe
glacial jasper
It’s not impossible but it is unforgiving
inner pecan
depends on level of key i suppose
on 10 you just get 1 nova anyway if ur group isnt mongo
just cloak 4Head
tight meteor
just kill the boss looool
obtuse ruin
did they fix garrote bug yet? outside subterfuge
tight meteor
200 iq strats
long hill
Anyone has a spreadsheet for loot table foe rogue assassinarion?
fiery oxide
@long hill I’m after one too, esp azerite gear to see which bits have SS trait
tight meteor
chest from feitd
spice surge
chest from arena too
tight meteor
if youre na helm from world boss
tight meteor
then world boss
inner pecan
titanforged m+ cache has all 3 slots just pray
spice surge
There is "only" about 100 items, so your chances are 2%
west gate
I am okay with not getting the the head 😄 385 gloves with socket 😄
spice surge
I mean, you can get gloves elsewhere, cant get SS trait elsewhere
Not yet atleast. Hopefully its one of the things they talk about at the Q&A
open wolf
Wanted to ask, do you push more DPS if you mutilate for 5 CPS and envenom or is it better to push out envenoms at 4 CPS? I tend to do 4 because of Venom Bomb procs + it feels like a waste of 2-3 CPS if I use it at 4
small narwhal
is item pool for cache not from yours highest m+?
solid nova
Finish at 4+ @open wolf
spice surge
Cache is from all dungeons
sweet flame
item pool for cache is all dungeons
wicked nymph
a little question why i use as opener garrote rupter and then again garrot ? is there something i dont understand ?
mint osprey
Yes you don't understand pandemic
spiral furnace
garrote is longer then
unreal sundial
is there snapshotting with vendetta dot dmg?
mint osprey
No
velvet kernel
do i use ct on bosses?
mint osprey
No
unreal sundial
oh, how does it differ from tigers fury with feral?
prolly havent read the tooltip closely enough
kindred forge
No 😄
velvet kernel
tigers fury does not snapshot
unreal sundial
what
kindred forge
No
wicked nymph
ah ok thx guys iim new to wow so i have a lot newby questions from time to time
velvet kernel
there is no snapshotting anymore
spice surge
There is
velvet kernel
with?
spice surge
Exsang snapshots haste
vestal wren
nightstalker/subterfuge snapshots
mint osprey
There is some snapshotting
vestal wren
there is still snapshotting
mint osprey
But 90% of it is gone
unreal sundial
i am fairly certakn tigers fury snapshots dots too
certain
so vendetta deffo doesnt snapshot garrote and rupture then?
spice surge
Nop
unreal sundial
alright, thanks
velvet kernel
dont believe them its a conspiracy 😄
wheat zealot
unreal sundial
reroll imo
spice surge
I mean, it depends on how you pull and stuff
dense fern
on average
velvet kernel
and depends who else is in ur grp
unreal sundial
what lvls are you doing
dense fern
7-10
velvet kernel
im doing 11.5k overall
strange python
where can i get me sum SS-gear? Only have head with SS+Heed my call
velvet kernel
with ppl that are doing 6k overall
spice surge
M0 @strange python and from fetid
strange python
other gear with knife-toss
unreal sundial
well its only above 12s you will pull ahead then
velvet kernel
@dense fern what ilvl are u ?
unreal sundial
because i bet mobs dont stay alive for even 60% of ur dot duration
spice surge
I think you just refresh, unless there is a fuckload of mobs
dense fern
but every non rogue is a shitty dps FeelsBadMan
velvet kernel
@wheat zealot i have shitty friends
dense fern
im 360
velvet kernel
what weps u got?
dense fern
370s
wheat zealot
Thats why you bring another rogue and a BM
strange python
@spice surge ty
velvet kernel
i still have 350 weps
wheat zealot
Ez
velvet kernel
fuck my ass luck
shut finch
almost 14k nice
dense fern
almost
velvet kernel
one thing
dense fern
this fetid trinket is hot trash
unreal sundial
vigor in mythic plis?
nocturne cradle
vigor always
unreal sundial
ehhhhh
wheat zealot
I use vigor at all times
shut finch
if u can mark for death good its better
unreal sundial
prefference i guess
dense fern
and i STILL dont have a fuck SS shoulders
shut finch
get them resets in
velvet kernel
do you never use envnom at below 4 cp
dense fern
fuckin
unreal sundial
i MFD for mythic plus and find its much better than vigor
wheat zealot
Sometimes to clip ep during exsang you can envenom with below 4
dense fern
i personally dont like MFD
shut finch
i avoid using envenom below 4
dense fern
tbh
shut finch
o yea does fan of knives feel shittier 2 anyone
arctic dirge
MFD should be good as long as there aren't any affixes that increase trash hp
shut finch
i cant get many points off it
velvet kernel
i feel like im banging my head against the wall with fan of knives
shut finch
lol
dense fern
idk fan feels fine to me
sand canyon
lets fly together guys
shut finch
like just mutilating main target would give me more cp
sand canyon
whats ur record burst dps on 1st boss motherloade?
shut finch
o shit is that the real musclebrah
sand canyon
no im fake
unreal sundial
i like mfd becauee it means i get to kidney shot Prey earlier
shut finch
rats
unreal sundial
which is maybe a waste but sorta fun
wheat zealot
I havent run motherlode yet tbh, because no daggers
sand canyon
luukl
dense fern
musclebrah whats ur sim
shut finch
might do ml in bt idk
dense fern
im curious
teal glen
when in m+, do you CT in st with exsa?
tardy spruce
Is ecryone using exang in mythic plus?
amber briar
How important are openers for sin?
dense fern
the standard 5 min patchwerk one
sand canyon
important zeke
dense fern
that most people post
sand canyon
especially on burst windows
dense fern
im just curious 😃
tardy spruce
right im using TB currently
whats the opener in a trash pack with CT?
i just cant get it down, im a sub main lol
tardy spruce
3-5?
sand canyon
what comp u running
if u have to burst
how long are they living etc
there is no general answer
tardy spruce
a rough idea?
sand canyon
its all about decision making if u wanna min max
strange python
^
sand canyon
opening with 3x gar into ct is never wrong after that u decide
tardy spruce
at mthis moment i just wanna know a roguh idea haha
strange python
On prio target pulls you want to garrote x3 with your last garrote ending on your prio target, rupture, exsang, then build cp for a Ct
sand canyon
you can also burst under 10
past lake
hey guys anyone know if the lionsgate trinket is good? im simming it and its simming decently high compared to any other trinket i have
strange python
If it sims higher, use it?
strange python
Disregard guide recommendations if your sims say otherwise
past lake
hmm
unreal sundial
unreal sundial
lolll
waxen tide
😂
teal glen
the mythic quest cache gave me 375 dagger with socket 👌
strange python
ohhhh
unreal sundial
wow
strange python
I have a 370 from TD and a 370 off Mother
unreal sundial
god damn
waxen tide
i got 395 ring with socket from mythrax if we wanna compare rng lol
strange python
bruh
teal glen
b o i
strange python
Isn't that one Crit Mastery
unreal sundial
haste crit ring?
teal glen
not bad
unreal sundial
jesus
waxen tide
mythrax normal btw 😂
flat oar
with CT skilled for m+, do I use it on bosses ?
unreal sundial
what are the hardest mythic plus dungs this week?
strange python
Nah don't use Ct on ST
unreal sundial
how does TD compare?
flat oar
kk thx @strange python
strange python
TD isn't that bad
brisk forge
But you cant change talets once started
final tusk
can someone explain decisionmaking behind exanquinate/toxic blade and posion bomb/crimson tempest
strange python
If people can avoid killing each other with the cannons 😂
unreal sundial
i think toxic blade is better if u get the right az traits
strange python
I usually stealth+sprint once we pull the guy that sees through stealth to get the cannon
Some people are just trash at it
spice surge
A. Whatever sims the highest. B. If there is like 3+ targets CT, otherwise PB @final tusk
strange python
Then the rest of the guys run past me with the 2x pack and pull the rest of the catwalk
unborn narwhal
there is always trash in m+ so you could argue that youd always want to have CT
spice surge
You can tricks your tank too and you wont get aggro while in the cannon 👌
strange python
Yeah I know
proven ice
Just go to the cannon straight and blind the stealth detector
strange python
So good
spice surge
Some dungeons doesnt have many packs larger than 3 mobs though
past lake
i feel like im l;acking
past lake
cause sustained dps i do like 8k
after burst
could anyone help me with what im doing wrong
: /
waxen tide
i still wonder should i use toxic blade or exs, exs is more fun
strange python
You can't vanish on a dummy? 😉
wheat zealot
strange python
Yeah
past lake
in raid sometimes i do like 9-10k
waxen tide
im simming they are super close
dawn root
There's not much of a point in having our necklace higher than 22 for right now is there?
strange python
Everything we do is just damage control in how much dps we lose outside burst windows
past lake
mhm
sweet flame
23 is mythic shoulder second trait afaik
dawn root
I agree with nadem on this I'm very similar
strange python
Not being able to vanish to extend the burst kills your dps on the dummy
whole onyx
!wa
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unreal sundial
So, Method are rocking Sub rogues for Zul, i assume thats becsuse they will be ST boss/main adds and not bothering with pigs
altho tbh im wank at Sub so probably the opposite of what i just said
spice surge
Because kiling adds was the only relevant part of the fight
teal glen
doesn't exsa assa do that better
spice surge
and assas target swapping is pretty awful compared
Well you need to spend like half of the time you have to kill them to put up bleeds
unreal sundial
think i will still be cheesey and play outlaw KS for parses on Zul for now heh
thin plinth
guys do you sim higler with exs or toxic blade ?
latent obsidian
my sim/pawn is making me drop to 7% haste should i still be following this
wheat zealot
Exs sims higher for me
thin plinth
toxic blade sims way higher for me
slender hare
esx sims 100 dps higher for me, i just use it because i prefer it
hard plaza
how much conquest is needed for the pvp cheat? 400?
wheat zealot
By .3% on a 1 boss 5 minute patchwerk
hard plaza
*chest
wheat zealot
Exs sims even higher on shorter fights ofc
teal glen
500
teal glen
yes
strange python
yes
but it never disappears
You must finish the one you're on to go to the next
hard plaza
tyty
teal glen
the reward is pretty nice aswell
strange python
So say you didn't get the weapon last week, you must do that first
Before being able to get he chest
wheat zealot
That free 355 ss chest is def worth
teal glen
bad
smoky niche
When should I use PB instead of CT?
slender hare
so that would be 1000 this week to get chest?
hard plaza
sick
strange python
So fucking mad I already have a 355 from Fetid
slender hare
oh, you just get 2 items instantly?
teal glen
no you can farm it twice i think but for chest you need to cap it only once
idk how it works if you skipped a week honestly
but that seems reasonable
slender hare
i skipped last week but will do a lot of 2s tonight, so guess ill fint out
teal glen
fastest way seemed 3s for me
waxen tide
when do we use galecaller in opener btw? just got it now, wondering
slender hare
Yea I know
slender hare
WW monk LUL, he'll be at my apartment, so well just do yolo 2s
strange python
LUUUL
slender hare
doesnt matter that ill prolly take ages haha
strange python
S u b O p t i m a l
slender hare
shhh
strange python
I can see the DRs flash before my eyes
slender hare
N e W m E t A
strange python
Take smoke bomb or you're toast
slender hare
yea
strange python
Pray you don't fight a Disc priest
spice surge
I mean, both of you have stupidly high burst, should prob work ok
strange python
inb4 they queue into endless DHs
wheat zealot
I was going sin with a bm hunter yesterday in 2s and roflstomping kids lol
It is slow af to cap tho
Took about a hour
visual token
There are a lot of trash disc in low-mid 2s. So don’t give up when you see one.
unreal sundial
aye
strange python
haha fuck
slender hare
Been watching Spookies stream, he’s been awake for over 30 hours lol
unreal sundial
cry god for Shadow Dance, Nightblade & Symbols!
slender hare
He looks like he’s about to sleep sometimes
unreal sundial
yes nadem
unreal sundial
they are legit at the bottom for add damsge
strange python
yeah
unreal sundial
see boss: kill boss
unreal sundial
feels dragon soul man
strange python
and almost shit for add damage
mental nest
disc priest is far from top tier in 2s btw
wheat zealot
strange python
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unreal sundial
oh my bad they focus crushers then zul
unreal sundial
ST rotation, no storms
unreal sundial
oh then yeah, sorry
versed osprey
So does method run any rogues atm?
unreal sundial
6 atm Keldare
strange python
They had 2x Sub on Fetid right
versed osprey
No sin thats great
spice frost
Sin so much less punishment on mechanics
unreal sundial
fades to outlaw
versed osprey
Keeps us under blizzards radar