considering similar ilvl
#assassination
stuck shuttle
onyx wind
go 3x SS
calm mesa
where do i get ss helm? 😦
sullen robin
I was just talking purely in uldir
sudden canyon
cant wait for tomrrow when people get 385 gale callers and some people get 385 bracers with like mastery vers or someshit. RNG FIESTA
stuck shuttle
Cowl of Fluid something
sullen robin
Machinations
onyx wind
Dude, i lost it when i heard u get 1-3 items
calm mesa
Cowl of Fluid Machinations
sullen robin
Yeah
stuck shuttle
that one
sullen robin
Some people gonna get so lucky
onyx wind
If i get 1 piecee that sucks
calm mesa
Dungeon — Shrine of the Storm — Vol'zith the Whisperer
onyx wind
im gonna be so mad
sullen robin
Exeo
onyx wind
And someone gets 3x 385
onyx wind
Same, did warfront on my dh and got 370 weeep
sudden canyon
ur obv just not skilled enough
sullen robin
I've done 35 m+ feelsbad
sullen robin
Game is good btw
sudden canyon
same im using a 340 and a 345 from conquest
onyx wind
Samee, both my daggers aree pvp
sullen robin
My outlaw friend rolled sin to troll me
And they got 360 daggers from kings
Really cool game
calm mesa
when you turn in conquest quest u can choose dagger even though it says axe for me ?
sullen robin
Yes
onyx wind
Yup!
sullen robin
I still beat everyone in my guild that has 370 weapons
calm mesa
bg best way for conq? rated or casual
calm mesa
word
calm mesa
is their nerf enough?
calm mesa
wtf O_o
onyx wind
That fucking basilisk just snapped my arm off
calm mesa
deathroll 😢
sudden canyon
was doing 3s with some buddies. none of us had pvped. queueing into bigbrain hunters and arms just smorcing our disc priest. dude raged after 4 arenas
onyx wind
Understandable
sullen robin
Go in twos
onyx wind
Even after nerfs, those classes are the best
sullen robin
I raged off after 1600
onyx wind
I hit 2.1k last expac
sullen robin
Oof
sullen robin
This whole xpac has been tilt
onyx wind
I remembere killing a BM pet, him standing for 30 sec trying to revive it
And he still did 20% more dmg than me
hushed turtle
Is there a loot table for the warfront boss?
onyx wind
Yes
sullen robin
Cant wait for my m+cache to be a 380 shit piece
onyx wind
Under world bossees
stuck shuttle
unloading all my CDs into prio target, then watching their HP go down 5% because of disc priest....FeelsBadMan
sullen robin
And the other rogue in my guild to get 3 daggers
hushed turtle
Oh is the end of scenario boss considered a worldboss?
hushed turtle
Yea, doesnt he give gaurenteed 370?
onyx wind
I think he drops everything with honorbound in the name
hushed turtle
Cool thx
onyx wind
No, thats the queest
sullen robin
340 guarabteed
onyx wind
But the quest is the same
sullen robin
Guaranteed
misty light
Is sin gong to pass sub/outlaw with the nerfs?
onyx wind
eeveerything with honourbound
onyx wind
Yees
misty light
Frick
stuck shuttle
that would've happened regardless
because sin always gets better with gear
its the same thing every xpac
sullen robin
Sin is big brain spec
stuck shuttle
wtf
sullen robin
Wow
misty light
Sub is biggest brain speb OL is reptile brain spec
onyx wind
Sub is pretty eaesy
alpine grotto
Nice ring
sullen robin
Sub is boring
onyx wind
You dont even have to manage dancees with current talent seetup
sullen robin
It's just blow your load ever x seconds
onyx wind
Also, this was my first titanforge luck in 2 expansions
sullen robin
385 if it drops azerite
sullen robin
385 ss piece
stuck shuttle
i still need my +10
sullen robin
Would be p o g
stuck shuttle
fuuuuuuck
stuck shuttle
not enough time in a week
onyx wind
So unlucky
stuck shuttle
i have a +8 Waycrest rn D:
keen cradle
what level will your heart have to be to unlock traits on a 385? 🤔
stuck shuttle
not looking forward to it
ancient sonnet
you bois think running hidden blades would be useful for g'huun
so that i can get extra burst when its needed
onyx wind
hihi ^_^
sullen robin
Probably similar to mythic uldir heart lv
undone cairn
gimme that haste
onyx wind
Thee crit for AoE also
undone cairn
thats like
onyx wind
Big as hell
undone cairn
hell ya i see that 37
muted quarry
stupid non ssin question. If i do a M4, can i still do a higher one before the lockout?
onyx wind
I can already seee myself being stuck on 3x 340 ss thee next couple of months
stuck shuttle
im spending my bonus rolls on that chest
onyx wind
Holy shit your gear
mellow pier
spam +5s my dude
onyx wind
I did
mellow pier
with all leather group?
mellow pier
feelsbad
onyx wind
@mellow pier
Idk if its a tooltip bug
But the chest says it has 2x gutripper
on it
They all have 2x secondary
huh
mellow pier
gotta be a bug
onyx wind
Must bee visual yeah
onyx wind
Do you run custom APL?
onyx wind
14.7k with 362 is super good
also, why did evereyone get the fucking azeritee headpiece
hollow junco
can't get the single SS hat that exists in this game to drop to save my life
having 1 chance / week to get the only azerite piece that exists with the right trait in a slot is dumb
proven ice
Where's it from?
hollow junco
SS hat is from shrine of the storms
stuck shuttle
Shrine
final stone
soo assi the way to go now?
stuck shuttle
your stats are fucked @proven ice
hollow junco
4 leather group and it didn't drop for any of us 2 lockouts in a row
mellow pier
im going assassin for prog
final stone
thats what im thinking i like both specs
do azerite gear roll over for specs or do you need more gear if you are swapping specs?
hushed turtle
You need more gear unless u wanna pay to respec ur gear
which gets expensive over time
onyx wind
Just have 3x spec sets and switch specs after every add pack
To reset cooldowns
Also works in m+0
hushed turtle
Cant change gear or anything in m+
onyx wind
m0
final stone
where do you go to respec your gear
onyx wind
Transmog dudes friend
hushed turtle
transmog area
final stone
oh yeah
ive played with a couple assi rogues in m+s and they do work.
im still sub atm
onyx wind
Assa is sick in m+
final stone
so m+s would you go PB
onyx wind
depends on the m+
final stone
got ya
final stone
so straight ST fight do you guys toxic blade or exsan
dusky sparrow
!wa
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final stone
once i get set up as assa ill sim to see whats best but just want to get an idea
soft island
hmm aha
fried who doesnt raid or run mythics but only colets mounts/pets and xmog got this just now
final stone
@onyx wind got ya are those bis traits i assume
final stone
should i have 3/3 of garrote trait
i have 2bits and another or something i cant remember right now as sub
soft island
doing prety fine with only 2/3 ... so noz a condition imo
onyx wind
2 is fine
brittle matrix
hey i was wondering, can i proc subterfuge from shadowmeld ?
stuck shuttle
no
brittle matrix
thankss
plain jacinth
you can use shadowmeld to stealth then apply subterfuged garrotes on mythic+ trash though
pliant apex
is assasination the least dps right now ?
tight ravine
assa isn't even good in pvp
pliant apex
you guys being sarcastic or?
stuck shuttle
its trash
void pecan
No it's bad.
stuck shuttle
lol
void pecan
Tell everyone you know
tight ravine
assa aoe seems bad too
pliant apex
ok im going to take yalls' word on it
stuck shuttle
yes
stuck shuttle
shhhhh bby
onyx wind
I say 2 weeks
stuck shuttle
just say ss sucks
hollow junco
stock up on sharpened blades jic
stuck shuttle
= no nerf
stuck shuttle
atleast SS adds some sort of rotational change
proven ice
It's pretty terrible to use.
stuck shuttle
to sin
hollow junco
i would rather use SS in a raid setting i think
onyx wind
SS is so nice
stuck shuttle
adding a throwing knife into the mix
onyx wind
Vanish is an actual cooldown
stuck shuttle
how cool
hollow junco
SS puts weight on the opener which is nice in M+ but less exciting over a long encounter
onyx wind
THROWING IN MEELEE
stuck shuttle
much interactive
onyx wind
CLASS FANTASY GAME DESIGN
stuck shuttle
such fun
hollow junco
vanish being a cooldown has been true for pretty much a decade. when has it not been a dps cooldown
stuck shuttle
in wrath
onyx wind
I mean
proven ice
The best part of SS is that we actually have a cleave/aoe cooldown now! (vanish)
hollow junco
the mechanics of why have changed through the years though
stuck shuttle
2 target bosses are the most fun for me
i mean...SS is trash
Scent of Blood better
glad light
in aoe/trash situations (m+) do you just spam CT?
thick jacinth
ya'll are toxic lmao they won't nerf anything
thick jacinth
i mean at most our bis trait gets nerfed 5-10%
stuck shuttle
thats why im telling everyone SS is trash
thick jacinth
that's it
stuck shuttle
so Blizz will leave us alone
stuck shuttle
Blizz runs on hive mindset
onyx wind
Dont makee me do it a third time
thick jacinth
wot you mean rerolling
worldly sentinel
Same startet sub, then farmed 3 Deatshots and then got Triple SS and im happy
thick jacinth
yeah but you should be keeping all 3 up anyways
worldly sentinel
30k on packs and 25 k burst single
onyx wind
What do you meean keeping up
worldly sentinel
easy life
thick jacinth
traits weapons for all specs
stuck shuttle
you don't have all BiS traits for all 3 specs @onyx wind ?
onyx wind
I do
onyx wind
I have bis traits for all 3
vivid cedar
Hey guys, just a quick question, if im specced into CT do i keep it up on ST?
onyx wind
and shuriken set
thick jacinth
there you go then
stuck shuttle
@vivid cedar no CT sucks on ST
thick jacinth
not really rerolling then lol
vivid cedar
@stuck shuttle thank you very much
onyx wind
I mean i guess youre right
onyx wind
0 targets
thick jacinth
this guy
onyx wind
psuree u do on 2 ?
thick jacinth
yeah thats what I thought
onyx wind
maybe 3 idk
royal lantern
on 2 targets you keep the dot up, on 3+ you spam it instead of envenom
obtuse island
Should I hold off rolling Sin until I get at least one SS trait?
onyx wind
yees
thick jacinth
wait you actually spam it?
royal lantern
it has instant aoe burst dmg, ofc lol
thick jacinth
okay nice im disabled
onyx wind
how much % dmg is CT in a m+
split grail
So with the nerfs coming out for Outlaw should I switch back to sin?
onyx wind
yeees
candid phoenix
Nooo dont switch back to sin
split grail
I hate the RNG of outlaw T_T
onyx wind
we all do
fair rain
Go play feral
onyx wind
kinda glad it got nerefed
thick jacinth
I hate the concept of outlaw lmao
onyx wind
alright gn
ancient sonnet
if i need burst for g'huun lazor beem phase would it be better for me to run HB?
over PB
thick jacinth
whoever thought to get rid of combat with insight is a fried cunt.
stuck shuttle
@ancient sonnet It could work better but PB may be more useful throughout the entire engage
ancient sonnet
i guess so yeah
stuck shuttle
its a trade off
but if your group has the dmg for the beginning phase, it should still be fine
thick jacinth
@royal lantern would you even bother chucking out ruptures then in m+ if your tank pulls like 8 mobs? just x3 garrotes and spam fok/ct?
ancient sonnet
tbf i went outlaw and wapped the boss real hard before it gets nerfed
but next week ill be sin 100%
fair rain
Sometimes when I do’s
DPS
I just spam poisoned knife
Ranged rogue boys
Where is our shadow hunter spec
frank shuttle
well, they removed one hunter ranged spec
they should make a rogue ranged spec to compensate
thick jacinth
and then ruined it immediately the next expansion
minute of silence for legion survival
easily the most fun melee I've played. 😦
royal lantern
with 3xSS garrote is enough cus trash is dead
thick jacinth
not in like mythic 8+
royal lantern
otherwise you use garrote on cd/keep ~2ruptures on main targets
atleast thats wath im doing, idk if people tell me now that im stupid and doing it wrong
valid junco
Anyone else noticed Harlans Loaded Dice doesnt proc anymore
thick jacinth
there's gotta be a sweet spot for regen tbh
rupture wise in aoe anyways
but it'll be different depending on haste
royal lantern
loaded dice has a pretty low proc rate
thick jacinth
they really need to buff the raid trinkets
tbh
dungeon trinkets at 370 > all 385 raid trinkets
so bad
valid junco
dungeon trinkets and fathom at 355 > everything else
final stone
what are good trinkets for assa
delicate gull
Fathoms
thick jacinth
galecallers and loaded dice
valid junco
rocking Fathoms and Plunderbeards Flask with socket 345
thick jacinth
fathoms is good for a while
valid junco
would love to use galecaller also , but the on use trinkets got that damn 20 sec cd when u use the first one
thick jacinth
i hate galecallers so much lol
final stone
so toxic blades or exsan
final stone
m+ set up im looking into now
rich raft
The damage done by SS its because its bugged or is inteneded to work like that, thinkig to play assa next week because the Sub nerf, but i dont wanna change everything bacause a bugg and the fix it.
final stone
i got to see what traits i have when i get home first before i even attempt to go assa
thick jacinth
the dmg from ss isn't bugged
void pecan
!ss
prisma monolithBOT
Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.
thick jacinth
it's bugged when you try to use it on a 4th target
that's the only bug ^
the dmg is intended and should be higher tbh
if the bug gets fixed anyways
stuck shuttle
!ss
prisma monolithBOT
Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.
stuck shuttle
but it is
rich raft
nice ty @thick jacinth
frank shuttle
wait, what did u just say @stuck shuttle
stuck shuttle
sorry i think disc updated late
frank shuttle
I have no idea how i @ you Hecktix, was meant to @ Xegony
stuck shuttle
lol
frank shuttle
yeah...
thick jacinth
fuma was asking if the sudden assassination craze was due to a bug
safe matrix
No
thick jacinth
well atleast that's what I gathered from what he asked
thick jacinth
and I said no, the only bug is the 3x garrote
safe matrix
And sin is already really strong in m+ cause of SS
thick jacinth
trait or not it was always gonna be better in higher keys tbh.
thick jacinth
outlaw is putrid tbh
drowsy crag
I could google this but i dont want to. What weapon enchants should I use?
stuck shuttle
deadly and quick
royal lantern
haste crit
rich raft
Should i use crimsom tempest in M+, or stay whit PB
thick jacinth
actually unsure of which to put on mainhand myself
stuck shuttle
it doesnt matter
thick jacinth
but raidbots didn't pay any attention to it
drowsy crag
rip ok ty friends
stuck shuttle
enchant wise that is
thick jacinth
yeah
frank shuttle
i think someone said haste in mainhand and crit in offhand
but i think that's bs
shouldnt matter
drowsy crag
very helpful. thanks fam
thick jacinth
so idk
but if it doesn't matter then it doesn't matter.
i suppose the only time it matters is like outlaw if you're running sword/dagger
frank shuttle
i have haste in mh in sin, and crit in mh in outlaw
fallow sky
kings rest trinket macroed to vanish or vendetta? :>
fallow sky
2 min
thick jacinth
you can macro it if you need but depending on content you're doing it might be better to have it stand alone
using it on cooldown pretty much in m+ that's all
frank shuttle
yeah i would never macro that
thick jacinth
plus on use are off the gcd
so you don't have any issues unless you're trying to free up keybinds
fallow sky
its just bc im lazy
sullen robin
The Exs opener does so much less than my tb opener
idk if im doing something wrong but same thing everytime
terse hinge
Saame
spice surge
Sounds like youre doing something wrong
autumn bloom
spice surge
How do you get more than like 20k as tb
sullen robin
garr/rup/garr/ven/mut/rup exs?
wtf
i usually get like 25k with tb
Havent done exs in raid yet so no log of it
thick jacinth
opener feels clunky af for me but I need so much more haste haha
royal lantern
sin starts too feel good at 13-15%
sullen robin
im at 15% haste but exs opener just feels worse
tardy yoke
17% haste, but no ss traits, feelsbadman
spice surge
I mean the energy gain from those extra % arent very massive
worldly sentinel
16% haste and 3 ss feels good .. but never tryed ex i have to day
sullen robin
was over 30k opener
thick jacinth
what do you sim
sullen robin
13.5k ish
thick jacinth
if I get a haste crit ring from my cache im gonna nut
thick jacinth
both my daggers are 340
thick jacinth
and both my rings are vers mastery
yeah im 359
you sim 500 higher than me and im higher ilvl
surreal rivet
so... assa best spec now? xD
thick jacinth
nah
sullen robin
sin sims higher in mythic gear
surreal rivet
ah so sub is still better?
spice surge
The thing you want from the weekly cache is helm/shoulders with SS
sullen robin
sub not better tbh
spice surge
As you cant get that anywhere else
sullen robin
yeah
worldly sentinel
Can you post your sim so i can have so to compare?
sullen robin
would be huge to get a ss piece
cunning rapids
CT or rup first on aoe pack?
surreal rivet
i was playing sub, then i decided to take a look at my assa traits and legit every azerite piece i have has SS
thick jacinth
yeah if you get it
surreal rivet
even the ones in my bags
spice surge
CT
thick jacinth
wouldn't mind a thicccc gale callers either but
somber wyvern
should i go with wound poision against healers in arena?
tight ravine
shroud is suffocation right
surreal rivet
so i assume sub will be better until later in the tier?
thick jacinth
amaterasu imagine your opener with galecallers too
sullen robin
oof
stuck shuttle
u are 359 and u sim 13.5k?
thick jacinth
I sim 13.1k haha
sullen robin
im 355 equipped with 3ss
thick jacinth
40% mastery btw
stuck shuttle
oic
surreal rivet
i sim 13.9 at 358
stuck shuttle
dam your stats really are jacked up
thick jacinth
I only have 1 SS
sullen robin
yeah i have too much mastery as well
thick jacinth
but 370 azerite pieces > SS trait so it's whatever
stuck shuttle
im only 352 and I sim at 13.5
sullen robin
sitting at 17%crit/15%haste 7% vers 28% mastery
thick jacinth
you're optimised af then
stuck shuttle
so thats huge
surreal rivet
so even after nerfs tuesday sub will be better until later in the tier?
spice surge
Play whatever you like dude
sullen robin
sub sims went down like 1k
stuck shuttle
all specs are viable really
sullen robin
but it is still viable
thick jacinth
assuming both your rings are haste crit/ crit haste heck?
stuck shuttle
nah, haste crit/haste mast
sullen robin
i was at 14k in outlaw sim but swapped to sin
surreal rivet
im prob gonna play sub in mythic uldir tuesday to be safe
thick jacinth
yeah that's pretty wild
surreal rivet
until i know for sure assa is legit
minor sleet
my sim statweight saying haste > agility lol
sullen robin
i like sins playstyle so much more
thick jacinth
raidbots is blocked at work for me. 😦
stuck shuttle
unlucky
sullen robin
haste> agi for me too
but i have so much versatility that is holding me back
from outlaw gear
worldly sentinel
i feel you
sullen robin
yeah
worldly sentinel
yes totally random
muted quarry
im the same way with mastery. im at like 26
worldly sentinel
i hate that
sullen robin
i know its gonna leave me feeling depresso
thick jacinth
how dumb is that
watch the other rogues in my guild will get 3 items
and ill fail trial
sullen robin
ye
thick jacinth
bet
muted quarry
and every ilvl upgrade i get is mastery
sullen robin
if only lmao
sullen robin
i have 375 ring with guess what
thick jacinth
and be done with it
sullen robin
m a s t e r y
sullen robin
feelsbad
thick jacinth
literally I can buy the 310 crafted ones
surreal rivet
i kind of want assa to be good, but rn even after nerfs sub looks to be better
somber wyvern
assa is bad? 😮
sullen robin
no
undone sandal
why?
undone sandal
true true
prisma bronze
!ss
prisma monolithBOT
Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.
thick jacinth
ghuun assassination is very good because of iron wire
surreal rivet
have shoulders and chest so far
minor sleet
i got all 3 .. last one today lucky as fuck !
nova nest
Should I be running crimson tempest in M+? and at what number of targets should it be used?
sullen robin
im always top deeps in m+
thick jacinth
yes @nova nest
surreal rivet
i mean as sub i sometimes top trash, but im always top on bosses
worldly sentinel
w
thick jacinth
if you're topping trash as sub
sullen robin
do you have SS?
thick jacinth
your dps suck
nova nest
i have 1 SS 😦
sullen robin
reeeeep
royal lantern
well, outlaw and sin are 2 different playstyles
somber wyvern
mainly talking arena
royal lantern
outlaw is more button mashing, sin is more waiting and do the right stuff
undone sandal
If you top dmg, you suck? Explain?
somber wyvern
whats SS?
thick jacinth
I didn't say he did.
undone sandal
Ah, yeah haha
strange python
If you top dps on trash as sub
undone sandal
my bad
nova nest
anyone know of a weakaura for sharpened blades?
undone sandal
I'm dumb
strange python
Sub destroys everyone else on priority targets though ofc
nova nest
are you suppose to wait till 30 stacks of sharpeneded blade to use it?
nova nest
i have 2x blade in the shadows and 1x inevitability and my dmg is much lower but i think i may be bad at sub haha
strange python
Sub takes some getting used to if you come from, say, Outlaw
Being used to clicking something all the time is a bad habit as sub
crisp steppe
@nova nest I think sim uses it at 29 to avoid wasting stacks, unsure tho
nova nest
is there a good tracker for sharpened bladeS?
pure sand
Why is shrouded suffocation so good if it only counts for the single garrote done out of stealth?
stuck shuttle
because you should be using subterfuge
strange python
^
stuck shuttle
which allows for 3 empowered garrotes
strange python
So you can garrote 3 targets
Which is insane
Laziest out-of-stealth aoe burst ever
As long as you land 3 SS garrotes you're good
hollow escarp
!ss
prisma monolithBOT
Shrouded Suffocation
Currently still bugged. Applying 1-3 Garrotes in Subterfuge, and then applying another Garrote outside of Subterfuge, all of your Subterfuge-empowered Garrotes lose the Shrouded Suffocation multiplier, However the Subterfuge multiplier still remains.
Advised to not cast unbuffed Garrotes to avoid losing SS trait damage bonuses until this has been fixed.
sullen robin
or vanish and garrote 3 more
strange python
Yeah ofc
sullen robin
in big pack
strange python
Rarely pull that this week considering the affixes haha
nova nest
is elaborate planning always bis? i saw a dmg drop when i switched in mob pulls
vocal dock
i simmed higher with master posioner but thats cause i have tons of mastery
stuck shuttle
MP will become better
thick jacinth
amaterasu wouldn't that make the bug occur?
nova nest
okay, thanks
stuck shuttle
no
sullen robin
not if you do it on seperate targets
stuck shuttle
the bug occurs if you garrote outside of subterfuge window
thick jacinth
so you can vanish and have 6 garrotes poppin' off/
stuck shuttle
casting within subterfuge window does not cause the bug
strange python
Yeah
thick jacinth
/nut
strange python
It's brutal
vocal dock
so basically to get most out of it do 3 subterfuge garrotes and then dont cast the one out of stealth until they are off?
strange python
Yeah your dps goes from like 20K to 8K in a second
strange python
Makes you wanna cry when you see that you only got 1 CP from the garrote you landed
And you get the CD
steep orbit
are the pinned messages still "current"? seems 3 days after release, people would come up with an update by now for each spec
strange python
happens when you want to multi garrote shit that's runing around
thick jacinth
yeah I need like a big fuck off weakaura to let me know im still in subterfuge
haha
strange python
Hahahaha
spice surge
If nothing has changed why would there be updates @steep orbit ?
opaque grotto
you can get 3 garrotes in subterfuge
steep orbit
well, is 3 days into the expansion really reliable?
opaque grotto
that's how you know you're still in subterfuge
hollow pine
How much time do we have with subterfuge?
steep orbit
raiding hadnt even been out yet, new methods may have been tested
opaque grotto
enough for 3 garrotes
stuck shuttle
3s
hollow pine
With my ms, I can surely do 2
stuck shuttle
well you have a little more time than you think
minor sleet
its not hard to get 3 off
stuck shuttle
since the counter doesn't start until after the first garrote
sullen robin
yeah 3 is easy
stuck shuttle
so you have 3s to do 2 garrotes
spice surge
You have 3 seconds to do 2 casts lol
minor sleet
just use tab to switch target but u should alredy be doing that bh
spice surge
You can have 400 ms and still do it fine
minor sleet
tbh*
thick jacinth
ive seen some raiders in my day that would struggle with that tbh
hollow pine
Alright, gonna do some tests
sullen robin
normal raiders btw
thick jacinth
is exang simming higher for you guys?
sullen robin
no
opaque grotto
yes
hollow pine
yes
stuck shuttle
yes
void pecan
Yes
sullen robin
not for me
thick jacinth
hmm
nova nest
is crimson tempest worth on only 2 mobs?
sullen robin
depends on your stats
thick jacinth
I wonder what the breakpoint is then
opaque grotto
seems it gets better with gear
white moss
is it worth keeping up crimson tempest for 1 target?
stuck shuttle
no
sullen robin
no
stuck shuttle
waste of cp
sullen robin
3 or more
stuck shuttle
atleast 2
pure sand
But why is SS top even in single target?
stuck shuttle
atleast for a boss
thick jacinth
bc it's thicccc
opaque grotto
because it does the most dmg?
white moss
ty
opaque grotto
why else would it be?
sullen robin
because garrote is doing alot of damage lmao
molten jungle
thick jacinth
jingle don't be passive aggressive bro he chillin
opaque grotto
ye bro but that's kinda a weird question
pure sand
But you only get 2 of them maybe in a M+
stuck shuttle
huh
royal lantern
sin rogue is a dot based class, ofc 1 of the dots will be a high dps source
sullen robin
bro what
spice surge
Yes you dont get a lot of empowered garrotes
But garrote does like 4x the damage when empowered
So its worth it
opaque grotto
everyone take double dose quick
minor sleet
agreed
opaque grotto
ye bottom tier now
minor sleet
dog shit tier in fact
spice surge
Pretty sure that nerf also made it stack with subterfuge, but i could be wrong
so not really a nerf
nova nest
crimson tempest 2 or 3 targets?
stuck shuttle
the damage wasn;t being applied at all
then they realize it with the fix
and saw the dmg was too insane
then nerfed
opaque grotto
honestly just take poisoned wire
stuck shuttle
loll
thick jacinth
is the crimson tempest target thingo in pins?
opaque grotto
definitely gonna be bis
stuck shuttle
i hear Rezan's fury is good
thick jacinth
seems to be asked a lot.
opaque grotto
just wait for gear dude
stuck shuttle
Rezan's fury bis
hollow pine
Exsg affects all targets with empowered garrote?
opaque grotto
no
stuck shuttle
no
thick jacinth
no
stuck shuttle
st only
opaque grotto
just your currentl taret
minor sleet
12,813 - w/o exsanguinate, 12,942 /w exsanguinate... oh damn didn't expect that much increase.
hollow pine
Oh, buff Exsg!!! 😃
thick jacinth
still that design flaw hurts me to this day
hollow pine
That would be neat
sullen robin
oof
opaque grotto
YEEZUS
thick jacinth
exsang effect ct?
stuck shuttle
they would nerf us to the ground
spice surge
Yes it affects CT, internal bleeding too
hollow pine
Garrote should stack the same way Unstable Affliction does Kappa
thick jacinth
vom
smh they should let rogues be in charge of class design
we'll make it balanced
bet
hollow pine
Hell yeah
opaque grotto
make FOK apply both bleeds
spiral furnace
Any good rogue streams live?
opaque grotto
too bad master assassin isn't in a different tier
stuck shuttle
right lol
thick jacinth
the rogue that does m+ with shakib streams
opaque grotto
like
opaque grotto
who the fuck needs hidden blades
stuck shuttle
is still huge
opaque grotto
throw that shit down there
thick jacinth
honest just let me at a mythic boss im so keen
opaque grotto
it's neat but some bosses are kinda boring
surreal rivet
hopefully assa will pull ahead of sub
hollow pine
Yeah, some of them are nice. I really hate Mother
stuck shuttle
mother is free
thick jacinth
telling you right now sass will be ahead in mythic week
jaunty lotus
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surreal rivet
maybe after nerf tomorrow sin will pull ahead
stuck shuttle
honestly, all 3 are still very close
thick jacinth
you can already sim the nerf on the nightly build
and anyone that had the azerite pieces handy
are already simming higher
stuck shuttle
we should just be happy were not in fire mage level right now
jovial vault
Simc is already updated with the nerfs to
jovial vault
All my ass traits suck only 1 SS
surreal rivet
i was sub
which is the weird part
i might play assa for progress
since it will be better
stuck shuttle
@jovial vault u need to RNG harder
jovial vault
God I wish I played outlaw for all of our heroic prog only time I rolled 5s were when we reset the boss
Or I rolled a 5 and it's a wipe right after
My ass and sub sims 200dif so I might as well just go play ass for mythic tomorrow
mortal oracle
If I am in M+ and using Subterfuge Garotes do I cap combo point in favour of getting three empowered garotes out?
jovial vault
Even with 1 SS
mortal oracle
kk thanks
stuck shuttle
even on ST
mortal oracle
o kk ty
vocal dock
is there any sims for using thistle tea vs potions? #cheap
surreal rivet
if the stars align tomorrow with azerite armor from chest ill play assa
stuck shuttle
and select whatever buffs you want to have
vocal dock
oh noce ty
sonic spindle
So I'm looking at a top parse on Talc, and his garrote dmg is insane compared to mine, what gives?
sonic spindle
it shows him running toxic blade
sonic spindle
29.5
surreal rivet
sub sims 1k dps higher
ancient sonnet
359 yikes
surreal rivet
1.2k actually
stuck shuttle
youre using wrong talents
take out nightstalker
and get subterfuge
your dps will shoot up
surreal rivet
kk
minor sleet
slightly off - topic but how r people gettin so many sanguicell fast ?
(for legs, boots)
jovial vault
All 8 norm and heroic bosses @minor sleet
Norm gives 1 per I believe heroic gives 10
minor sleet
oh dang, I didn't know that many on hc. cheers
hushed sphinx
what's the play with exsang? use on CD or something trickier
surreal rivet
if i can get 1 more ss trait
stuck shuttle
@hushed sphinx line up with full pandemic bleeds
surreal rivet
i might play assa full time
stuck shuttle
@hushed sphinx get your 2:20 timing right
minor sleet
@surreal rivet remember to use subterfuge correct ;p
hushed sphinx
it only sims literally 30 dps higher so if it's harder to pull off properly I won't bother
strange python
Why do we overlap Rupture so close in the opener?
stuck shuttle
for full pandemic
minor sleet
(3 garrote while it available on 3 targets)
stuck shuttle
esp important for exsang
strange python
ah ok thanks
surreal rivet
@minor sleet pm me how i use it correctly xD havent played it since middle of legion
flint zodiac
What do you guys do in M+ when there's just a million little adds and you have no chance of getting any bleed time on them?
minor sleet
ok m8
flint zodiac
Like temple, doing the orbs
minor sleet
me since cata, but this discord vry helpful
stuck shuttle
or use CT if you have it
flint zodiac
Gotcha.. I feel like you get gimped on energy then w/o your bleeds ticking on venomed adds
flint zodiac
Gotcha, thanks!
strange python
Not many encounters like that anyway right
stuck shuttle
^
flint zodiac
I normally play outlaw but I like sin the best
hollow pine
You guys think they are going to add more spec based traits in the future?