Takes a neck and ring prob. Trinkets shifted a bit too.
#assassination
lone junco
dire steeple
So we stack haste? What do if I dont have any haste gear? XD
frosty robin
or fucking arcano 🤢
sudden brook
@dire steeple reroll sub, or item restore
lean hill
frosty robin
i dont want to
cloud frigate
well i just gave you the tldr
ripe nimbus
Lol
sudden brook
lol
serene plaza
That tempered egg of serpentrix though
frosty robin
im on phone it takes me 5 mins to open each server and check the pins
lean hill
Get a better phone
frosty robin
its not about phone its about hassle
cloud frigate
either way i just gave you the tldr
frosty robin
sad u guys r so new u dont even know who i am
someone link my logs
noobe ur on it
lone junco
Sub is high. Outlaw is high. Sin is crippling slow apm.
frosty robin
the back to back double allstar
lone junco
There are prelim sims. But they are generic
frosty robin
throw it
lone junco
The profile is generic.
whole canyon
Hm top gear on raidbots says different thing and then generated pawn says different thing
whole canyon
I mean pawn generated from raidbots of course.
frosty robin
yeah still trash
lone junco
@frosty robin for now im just planning for outlaw 5man. Sin raid.
frosty robin
uninstall it
frosty robin
dont listen to it, sim ur upgrades always
whole canyon
ok
lone junco
Great for now.
bright wasp
lol
unborn mulch
sorry if this is a stupid question and maybe i should ask in the questions channel instead, but I just started playing again, do we still want to try to clip the last second of envenom or is that no longer a thing?
lone junco
Yeah. It's a strong hit during blade flurry.
frosty robin
ok that explains it then
lone junco
White is top for outlaw So that Acro cleave is gold.
frosty robin
sludgebro u have so much haste with ideal gear that u have practically 100% uptime
unborn mulch
ok cool so doesn't matter if you clip it early?
lone junco
Dunno about that. We can see the ep uptime from slackjaxk log tho.
frosty robin
should be close to 100%
quasi cove
is the talents still 2210022 for ST? or has that completely change?
sudden brook
have u looked at the pins
quasi cove
yea, wasn't sure if any hotfix were added
grand bison
click top of frame
lone junco
@frosty robin I can't answer dh vs rogue main. But rogue is looking strong. Sub bois are happy. Outlaw is strong. Sin is slow as shit but still good single boss.
frosty robin
is it slow?
lone junco
I loved that garrote dmg btw.
sudden brook
going from 39 to 30? or something like that
frosty robin
why is it slower than before, gutted energy from bleeds?
sudden brook
no tier set hurts
lone junco
It's fast and fun for sure. Whether it will win in patchwerk. Doubt. But vendetta cd sucks for any swap ever.
I still don't mind the st niche. And sin is looking fine there.
frosty robin
im going switzerland to become a brown gay-cation man Kappa
vale marten
woulod sephuz be bis on fights you could proc it? portal keeper as one
vale marten
i mean for assa
lone junco
Bis is probably the wrong word. But it might be good with lots of bleeds then a stub.
Outlaw is prob Bracers insig.
They changed shark a bit.
vale marten
because haste sims highest for me
lone junco
Get more haste.
vale marten
and im at 22%
lone junco
It's not that much higher.
lone junco
Nice. I can probably hit 40/30/40
jovial kite
all within 0.5 though
floral moat
legends for sin single target?
jovial kite
0.05*
sudden brook
pins look at the pins
sudden brook
oof
desert vault
Hmm, to log back into WoW or not ... been 3.5 months ... 😃
vale marten
not sure why it says 240 ilvl tho
desert vault
What's best rogue for BfA? I've literally read nothing, not touched the game since giving up on M Argus
sudden brook
i was about to say, thats really high for 240
jovial kite
not sure why you sim 19 pantheon and 4 min
serene vine
did you import from armory? your weapon is low
slow mortar
pantheon4dais
grim jay
you guys using claw or satyr now ?
vale marten
y should be 5 min
jovial kite
and 0 pantheon
jovial kite
if you want to sim your character, its optimal to sim with 0
also im not sure if your group has 19 combos aka amanthuls
vale marten
y everyone of our 20 people have it
vale marten
ill need to sim some more i guess before raid but its probably an hour queu now
frosty robin
idk weak
jovial kite
and on any cleave / aoe ill switch ct
warm parcel
frosty robin
whos who
warm parcel
you
frosty robin
u nibbaaaaa
drifting cloud
fake alaiz
warm parcel
banned
jovial kite
5th reform
frosty robin
banned 4 times for nothing
lone junco
jovial kite
assa is actually really stronk weak
frosty robin
kinda sorta
warm parcel
vale marten
so at which fights would shoulder be the best? i see a lot of people not using them
sudden brook
yeah assa is nutty bongo
lone junco
That subterfuge garrote tick was nice.
sweet rampart
damn herodamages sims still have not been updated 😦
warm parcel
Where you playing nowadays btw?
bright wasp
@lone junco What trinkets should i get now?
warm parcel
@frosty robin
lone junco
@bright wasp there was a list. But I would just run Top gear on your entire bank of trinkets at 30k iterations. Lock the raid trinket.
bright wasp
Good shit, thanks
shy orbit
idk bout this
sudden brook
ew
frosty robin
im not playing at all pmuch
waxen arch
are we really going back to exsanguinate?
warm sable
So no more tracking Surge of Toxin ...
kind solar
@waxen arch i was at antorus H mode sooner and without exsanguinate i was at 5k2 dps
waxen arch
Aight, cool
grim jay
dunno why one should go back to exsang
waxen arch
I read the guide?
grim jay
???
sudden ravine
lone junco
Exang has better prio dps than tb. But the overall avg might be lower.
We'll see as the logs roll in.
waxen arch
Aight, cool thanks
sudden ravine
Water wet or butter wet
grim jay
water wet
gritty quarry
So everyone is using ring and cloak rn right?
alpine grotto
nope
halcyon glacier
the pinned quick guide mentions that cloak was already nerfed? anyone know details?
whoops
gritty quarry
Is it still bracers/shoulders then?
sudden brook
u could sim urself and find out 8)
alpine rain
It says sims havent been updated
gritty quarry
Or you could just tell me what your running
sudden brook
the cape ones are fuked the other ones r fine last i checked
ripe nimbus
Yo it doesn't matter what he's running best leggos changes on what ur gear is like
sudden brook
also that
ripe nimbus
Sum ur self
gritty quarry
nty
feral flower
glad I saved all that haste gear I was miserable getting
gritty quarry
I just want to know what everyone is using
sudden brook
legendaries
gritty quarry
Because it changes playstyle
ripe nimbus
Everyone is using different things
grand bison
We're using what is our best simmed
ripe nimbus
There's ur answer
dire steeple
Anybody got WA for cloak stacks and HB stacks?
gritty quarry
Cool
sudden brook
it literally depends on what your gear is whats best
gritty quarry
What is everyone uysing
feral flower
use top gear when sims are corrected
sudden brook
why does it even matter
gritty quarry
Because its a discussion channel
I just want to know
Is there a rule about this? Am I not allowed to ask?
sudden ravine
Sarg was down all night so I don't know what I'm using yet
sudden ravine
Ring and TBD
balmy condor
I put on all the haste I can get
deep beacon
Got a WA for blinside glows with timer for proc IF its a proc as a priority and then will light up no glow usable based on energy at 30% and blow health. Seems to work well 😃
grand bison
feed a man a fish.. he lives for a day.... teach a man to fish... he can live forever
gritty quarry
Even if I wanted to sim myself I cant
grim jay
@gritty quarry there is a rule that you should 
regarding such stuff
ripe nimbus
The rule is to sim ur self
gritty quarry
I can't friendo
balmy condor
then lurn
grim jay
everyone can
gritty quarry
Its it down?
ripe nimbus
What dont u understand about that
grim jay
its like 2 clicks
balmy condor
no its not
balmy wren
what's happening
gritty quarry
Plus there is no rule on asking what everyone is running
tough topaz
I already have mantle and insig, what Lego would be recommended next to grab? Bracers?
gritty quarry
I just asked what legendaries you guys are using
grand bison
don'y get mad when everyone gives a diff. answer
grim jay
and he said everyone is using smth different
gritty quarry
Cool what are you guys using
sudden brook
LMFAO
shut robin
xD
grand bison
if you do the work, you will feel better about yourself
gritty quarry
Link armory sure
grim jay
satyr + insig :^)
waxen arch
going to try that
ripe nimbus
Bann this guy holy fk
sudden brook
im using ring from argus, and the valeera pants
dull compass
Heyho, in Fuus Guide on ST pull:
"Garrote-Mutilate-Mutilate-Rupture. " on the first Mutilate I already have 4-5 CP, why would I do another Mutilate if I may ask ?
strange python
muted jacinth
normally you won't have shoulders to push that extra 2 points everytime
kindred ivy
Jesus reading this channel triggers hard sometimes
grim jay
@dull compass you prolly use shoulders and he doesnt ?
sudden brook
@dull compass if you get to 4 CP on your first, just cast rupture
ripe nimbus
@dull compass it changes dependin if u crit or not just rupture at 4+
When ever that is
muted jacinth
mfw t20 exsang subterfuge build is actually not too bad rn
ripe nimbus
Worst luck is garrote mut mut
waxen arch
sudden brook
np :)
feral flower
simming 6,139 with no changes since pre-pre-patch
ripe bramble
Does the raidbot default APL with Sephuz assume procs on CD or no procs at all?
rotund pier
Has the apl for cloak nerf been implemented? I notice HD has been updated and it's still number 1
shut robin
xd
vernal adder
pins the check
rotund pier
yea i know ive been following it since 2:30 am, just woke up
sudden brook
i dont think they updated the APL
feral flower
no
dire steeple
feral flower
dire steeple
feral flower
amber sun
does someone have a mutilate blindside macro?
pure fjord
Cries about Poison Bomb
I loved Bag of Trick's effects.
strange python
rough osprey
macros cant track your buffs sry you need wa for that
strange python
sacred ore
guys blindside or master poisoner?
wintry compass
cant see button glowing when looking at details 24/7
hardy bluff
strange python
master poisoner
visual sedge
Assa bis leggo?
grim jay
visual sedge
oki ty
shut robin
legs and neck
grim jay
@strange python ep is better than mp
dire steeple
If you cant die you deal more damage
cold token
subterfuge>nightstalker right ?
alpine rain
Anyone have a WA for EP?
arctic venture
humm crisom, is that good?
cursive hatch
That's a pretty basic one to make. If you use details, it has a button to make a weakaura for you as well
arctic venture
better than bomb and foK?
alpine rain
Details can make WA?
cursive hatch
yes
alpine rain
😮 what a time to be alive
grim jay
@arctic venture
cursive hatch
after you do a fight or something where you used the ability/got the buff, you can click on yourself, click on auras, and there is a button to make a weakaura
median notch
so is haste already buffing bleeds? cause no such thing in tooltip
cursive hatch
so go to a dummy, use a finisher, click on your name in details, click auras, click button to make a weakaura
alpine rain
@cursive hatch ❤ thanks alot!
random pelican
Hi, quick question, is there a haste floor in your opinion or should we just go based off of simming?
cursive hatch
in general, always based off of simming
arctic venture
hehe @gray mulch im checking on game.
grim jay
???
narrow meteor
we run in 2210023 for Mm+ ?
grim jay
@narrow meteor would atleast be what I would go with
arctic venture
yeah indeed, crimson, will be faster damage then FoK
grim jay
???
arctic venture
that´s a point.
arctic venture
but for bosses, in DG not that good.
grim jay
beep boop
narrow meteor
ok ty
tawny canopy
What is y’alls dps looking like after the prepatch?
arctic venture
is a lack of dps, specialy when u have tyrranical.
grim jay
6.9-ish
deep beacon
i simming at about 5500 at around 234 or so ilevel... though just did a few things and working out talents and stuff. Also trying ot figureout how to optimize since i Like to do M+ and the gear is opposite for ST / M+ almost (mastery aoe, haste st) so its a challenge. But fun 😃
echo cargo
Wish they woulda disabled legos so the playstyle is more accurate
quartz depot
same
arctic venture
@deep beacon kinda.
grim jay
that wouldve ended up hilarious. they were too stupid to even balance hounds while still having legos. @deep beacon
tawny canopy
My rogue was around 958 ilvl before the stat squish, so was just trying to find what average dps was looking like. You said simcraft is updated?
tawny canopy
🙏
warm sable
What do we track now in rotation ? Only bleeding ,because Surge of toxin is out ?
grim jay
EP and dots obviously
deep beacon
Ok here is my blindside WA just threw it together hopefully it helps but I like it 😃
cunning blaze
no one knows how to get rid of bfa's interface? I'm using Dominos
arctic venture
@deep beacon I think in this case will be much more about the finisher. Because ok you need that mastery for m+ but now you getting faster with haster and finishing faster.
soo.
jovial goblet
whats best spec rn
jolly notch
So i tried using the legendary cloak with the FoK talent along with nightstalker and the FoK honor talent and the tooltip said 24k (low gear) but when i actually hit something it did more like 3k anyone else having this issue?
grim jay
@deep beacon you dont use bs below 30. only if it procs
arctic venture
maybe is just the case to pickup the best finisher, as we saying. In my eyes for all m+ run will be crinsom but for bosses specialy with tyrannical will be dps loss.
grim jay
@jolly notch
strange python
5.7-6ish is what your aiming for i think. I'm at 249ilvl and focused on haste and crit. Did 6.5k on normal garothi last night
jolly notch
How do i do that? Lol im new to disc
grim jay
its the pin at the upper right
royal lantern
5.3, only 10%haste and no haste gear u.u
deep beacon
@gray mulch Ok because you get 2 combo points for mut i suppose
jolly notch
Oh
dense yarrow
im 247ilvl, 5% haste and sim 5.4k dps
ripe bramble
anyone know if the raidbot default APL assumes you proc Sephuz every 30 secs? or no procs at all?
arctic venture
im 14% haste at moment.
jolly notch
So its a garbage legendary now lol looks like i wasted my wakening essences
arctic venture
and i think I can reach something like 16...
onyx heath
7% haste makes me feel like I’m in slow motion
arctic venture
anyway, im geared with shouders and sephuz ring.
strange python
You need like 15minimum for it to feel smooth
grim jay
@jolly notch well you can barely call it wasting. you can do WQs for essence, get 1000 in the mythic chest, 150 for bonusrolling on raidbosses
royal lantern
it will hurt too lose my t21 4set
ripe bramble
After 20-22% haste, crit overtakes it
grim jay
that depends on how high your crit is.
ripe bramble
I'm at 20% and crit and haste are very similarly weighed
grim jay
just
ripe bramble
pretty much
dense yarrow
i hate that we have two different stat prios for ST and AoE
rough osprey
so whats the point of crimson tempest is dosnt stack it dosnt give you energy wtf is it good for then
grim jay
damage
royal lantern
...its a aoe finishing move? or do you want another PB rng fest?
ripe bramble
It's good enough to use on even two targets from what I've seen
strange python
does subterfuge beat nightstalker even if you use mantle?
royal lantern
´´sorry guys, no aoe from me, got no procs´´ was the worst shit about legion sin
narrow meteor
With back , we Fok at 20 or 30 stacks?
fringe sierra
do we take crimson over PB?
ripe bramble
Cloak is nerfed, we don't use it anymore
deep beacon
@grim jay I disabled the % base one in there. That's pretty silly they should make it worthwhile to use.
jovial kite
@dense yarrow that has been a thing since
forever
also you have different stat prio for st 2t 3t 4t 5t and + if you really want to minmax
you dont need to do it
snow hamlet
@ripe bramble be nerfed for what?
grim jay
@deep beacon you cant expect a small indie company like blizzard to make an execute be the better choice in execute-range
deep beacon
lol
safe sluice
Nech enchang is still trained soldier?
ripe bramble
Cloak+hidden blades don't work multiplicatively anymore, they're additive so it's not worth using anymore, but we have to wait for updated APL @snow hamlet
sweet rampart
thought i was still tabbed into it sorry 😄
wide prairie
sephuz + insignia looks fun
deep beacon
I have that at te moment
ripe bramble
does raidbot apl assume sephuz procs on CD?
wide prairie
i like sephuz makes me think of my cc more etc
elfin fossil
!pins
snow hamlet
@ripe bramble tks..
wide prairie
plus who else is gonna interupt all the things on argus adds and get yelled at 😉
sweet rampart
am i pretty safe to upgrade insignia to max it out you think Or should i wait for more sims?
still pewter
Pants are bis and helm
vapid moth
Has anyone tried boss fights yet. How are they?
sweet rampart
wait really? you get bonus rolls for upgrading?
grim jay
you get essence for bonusrolling
balmy condor
grim jay
150 each
gentle pond
Does blindside stack with wrists?
vapid moth
Ty
silent crescent
What leggos are people running if cloak got nerfed
still pewter
Blindside is a dot?
jovial kite
gilded oasis
It is now
balmy condor
oh man
grim jay
that was sarcasm
torn token
what neck enchant are yall using? claw?
vapid moth
I like dot
grim jay
satyr for me @torn token
violet ice
has anybody tried ass in pvp yet?
still pewter
Use heavy hide enchant
atomic hamlet
Someone did some intense testing about Prolonged Power vs Old war ? Old war was doing 6% overall dmg at garothi hc. Did 6,7 k overall.
wide prairie
LOL @runic shale hide
ripe bramble
Old war is nice with Cinidaria
grim jay
cinidaria 🤔
ripe bramble
atomic hamlet
I had bracers and insig
vapid moth
Helm is trash
hoary copper
If Xae says its trash, it must be good
marble elm
next ur gonna say use thistle tea for the extra few seconds off vendetta
silent crescent
Was the legendary helm changed?
still pewter
@marble elm that was a secret I was gonna keep
wide prairie
ayyy thristle tea! we need our tophat and tea back blizz
strange python
yes @silent crescent it now gives you extra 1 energy per second
royal mango
which is trash
still pewter
Mfd exsang build is good
grim jay
think about it made. 1 energy per second. that are whopping 60 energy a minute
3600 in an hour !
warm parcel
Assa highest sim combo 5.9
still pewter
That's 1 whole second every minute off vendetta
warm parcel
still pewter
Its worth
thorny basin
sephuz / insignia
lone junco
Insig doesn't buff bleeds.
vale marten
@jovial kite ok i have simmed with 0 pantheon and 5 min with these 2 talent setups but i think im missing something because this is a way too low sim for 249/250 ilvl
lone junco
Next.
jovial kite
nah that seems like what it should be
vale marten
whats your ilvl?
cursive hatch
Thats not really low at all, looks fine
jovial kite
252
rough osprey
so what would be a good combo for M+ ?
lone junco
Was like 982 pre squish right?
shrewd night
I sim 6,1 with optimized ST talents and barely optimized gear at the same level
dense yarrow
i sim 5.7k with 249 ilvl
shrewd night
Aint all that bad
rough osprey
back shoulder or back wrist?
vapid moth
Helm is trash cause kinsbane CD was shorter than 40 sec and gave 40 energy
cursive hatch
972 presquish
frosty linden
I'm at 5.96 with 249
cursive hatch
current ilvl +720 is pre-squish ilvl
lone junco
It's now 1e per sec.
vale marten
i dont get why it says 240 ilvl and my weapons as 182 ilvl
lone junco
+1E
frosty linden
Whoa cinidaria is that high?
vale marten
so 2 ilvl is 700 dps?
atomic hamlet
but this is jsut worth if your grp sucks right ? otherwise you pass the 90% really fast
or ?
cursive hatch
it always performs very well in sims
lone junco
Right. With a few Dh. Rip your open.
vale marten
how much of each stat you got?
dense yarrow
how do you sim so high 😦
cursive hatch
wheat solstice
That sim was with pantheon so thats not a reliable one, but Hidden right now
strange python
thanks
jovial kite
pantheon sims 
vapid moth
Mastery is such shit rn
wheat solstice
Yeah forgot I had it on as I was messing around all last night lol
lone junco
If you want mastery. Use mp not ep.
silk sundial
Lol, I'm over here simming at 3.8k at ilvl 230ish. All critical mastery
jovial kite
tbf 230 is pretty low
buoyant flicker
is the master assassin talent bugged?
frosty linden
I've had to scrape haste gear
silk sundial
I know, I took a long break and came back a few weeks before prepatch
radiant rain
Hot dog I suck lmao
frosty linden
What's the stat requirement for wrists to be an upgrade?
vocal oasis
!trinkets
chrome tuskBOT
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
silk sundial
Before the patch I was 940 and had a sustain of about 1.4 mil
quaint sequoia
Did they fix cloak+HB?
wheat solstice
Yeah kakan
quaint sequoia
So bracers Insignia then?
marble elm
is my weapons being 100 ilvls lower on raidbots visual bug or do i need to update something
wheat solstice
You'll have to sim it Kakan
frosty linden
It hurts me inside that I sim higher with Sephuz on my rogue
wheat solstice
Insignia is the staple tho Mantle / wrists or sephuz
waxen arch
Looks like the shoulders is not the best anymore?
radiant rain
i rly really a better ilvl
wheat solstice
rapid mirage
Anyone try out Sephuz? this is with Raven and Sephuz https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aspEacc5QwH9S6RUpTmD6K
wheat solstice
my sim with shoulders
torn token
wtf
grim jay
wtf
amber sleet
delete that shit
grim jay
you know that can lead to seizures
timid charm
can we not
vale marten
if someomne has epilepsy rip
pure fjord
Pretty sure that's why they posted it.
grim jay
@vestal wren delete the gif please
vernal mauve
So best thing to do is to add all of my legendaries to my bags and sim?
strange python
LET IT BE GONE
dreamy ridge
swift block
frigid sleet
poison bomb is performing exceptionally bad here
silk sundial
Anyone do some +15s after the patch? It shows you will only get 209 gear from the weekly chest now, wasn't sure if that was true for chesting on completion
dreamy ridge
i didnt get loot xd
hov felt kinda weird though
a lot felt overtuned or i just suck
other rogue was having issues too though
dire spoke
@warm parcel u weak
vernal mauve
Is their any place with a good talent build?
dreamy ridge
so it seems pb is the way to go even though its doing such little damage?
warm parcel
Nice pb
dreamy ridge
you can
torn token
that pb damage
vale marten
that ring is actually carrying you
waxen arch
Not sure what legendary I should get lol
tough whale
Then just wait :D
dreamy ridge
that vari trinket looks nutty
tough whale
Vari trink and Panth are performing fantastic
digital heron
wait so what are now the best legendaires to use?
dreamy ridge
looking like mantle and ring?
frosty linden
frosty linden
I'm jk but it's really dependant
Like loads of people run bracers but for me it's Sophus
What
Sephuz *
vale marten
i didnt mean it in a negative way btw @jovial kite
tough whale
I think bracers will hold great value only if your fights are long. Which really isnt too common atm
vale marten
but i get now why you sim so high
tough whale
Our fights have been steamrolls with small exe phases
snow hamlet
how about cinidaria+bracers ?
tough whale
Cinidaria is a trap
strange python
Cinidaria + ring
ripe geyser
strange python
But why would people not use mantle anymore ?
tough whale
Sims have it always doing well. It wont perform that well in a real scenario
frosty linden
I've noticed that the melandrus ring is super dumb right now?
tough whale
Cause mantle is baked into a talent, and mantle also was great for buffing poison bombs which did insane amounts of damage
strange python
mantle still sims highest for me.
snow hamlet
ring just cause 1~2% damage , really good?
tough whale
Mantle still isnt awful but it's not a "must have" or you're usless
strange python
raven ring ?
tough whale
Ring has a good budget on it
unreal coyote
anone else getting weird results simmin with mantle?
buoyant flicker
CoS ring with 10% auto dmg
torn token
that cos ring op op
vocal dock
im simming highest with mantle + ring myself
snow hamlet
yup,raven ring
sweet rampart
mantle and ring here too
dreamy ridge
nah sims fine for me
unreal coyote
: /
sage ice
so we are playing now bracers and ring?
daring cave
Sure
severe perch
a
weak isle
lord of the ring sims highest for me
buoyant flicker
cloak and fan talent my fok did 28.5% of my damage in a m+
wraith dragon
is cinidaria bugged on sim ? it's always top for me
weak isle
ye cind is always on top for me aswell
vale marten
i guess if you dont have bursty classes in your raid it could be
winter cliff
what BiS leg for assassination rogue?
wraith dragon
well, same argument could be made with bracers and exec classes
winter cliff
ahhh ok clock
waxen arch
well sin one shots ppl in bgs
winter cliff
cloak*
brave umbra
that was the case until yesterday @urban blaze
urban blaze
If execute phase is short then it's bootd
frigid sleet
how can poison bomb be the go to talent, it does 1-4% of my overall damage on ST its triggering
wheat solstice
Highest sim so far
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7wTKhzFYMjcJEqvKyE3VVk
urban blaze
Party time
wheat solstice
Following Mantly / ring
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/88fuySui9Q9nz37Uj2326N
vale marten
damn those autoattack rings
snow hamlet
so we choose the raven ring, because its good budget?
tough whale
Cant wait to see all the people being cinidara to raid cause of brainless sims and then watch your 10% hp window melt in 4 seconds
dreamy ridge
cos zzz
wheat solstice
You really wouldnt wear cindara unless you were fighting Odyn in HOV
inner token
for my belt make no sense cause we got 2 dhs 1 monk
tough whale
Belt makes no sense period currently. It's just always oversimmed
Much like norganons is for cloth classes
vapid moth
how do i make it so that i dont autoattack until i actually use an ability
jovial kite
idk
jovial kite
just rank 1 garothi with cinidaria 
tough whale
Dont right click at the start?
high berry
Macro the ability and add /autoattack
jovial kite
the reason is lust hasted bleeds vendetta
vapid moth
i dont right click though. i target the dude and it autoattacks as soon as i get close enough
high berry
There should be stuff in the guides
winter cliff
is Bis for assassination is back and shoulders?
dire spoke
royal lantern
´´yo, wich talents do you run now?´´
winter cliff
lendary
high berry
I tried playing with blindside last night and it felt clunky . Anyone else?
tough whale
Blindside is underwhelming
dreamy ridge
its horrible
winter cliff
so The best lendary are shoulder and back then?
hoary copper
Alright all. Before you ask the same question that has been asked 100000000000 times. Check the pins. If the information is not in the pins, Sim yo self. If the sims are not the answer than ask away
proven hemlock
Try prydaz and will of valeera. Can't do damage if you die
hoary copper
Sim yourself IS the answer. Not everyone is the same
winter cliff
what sim?
hoary copper
dire spoke
@winter cliff simulate your gear possibilties, nobody knows what you own
winter cliff
that for stats not what im asking for
vapid moth
is anyone elses game freezing up more than occasionally
tough whale
LOL
unkempt phoenix
i mean if you don't know how to sim, why do you care what damage you do in a prepatch
winter cliff
like so shoulder are best for assination then
high berry
Has anyone played a bleed build ? If so how does that feel?
young creek
I can't tell if he's trolling 
steep citrus
#wutisbisforassnation
unkempt phoenix
i hope he is
dire spoke
winter cliff
why u cant tell me what lendary you use?
dreamy ridge
ah that emote hurts my eyes
winter cliff
it find i check on wow logs
tough whale
Because tell a man whats bis and he leaves you alone for a day
winter cliff
fine*
tough whale
show a man how to find his bis
hoary copper
God I wish I had the mute button
tough whale
and he neveer asks again
daring cave
Because no one knows really what to run
daring cave
Everyone is simming to figure it out
hoary copper
We have answered it and you keep asking
dire spoke
you're new to raiding aswell
winter cliff
thinky ou dont know what troling
tough whale
Youre expecting us to silver plate you an answer even we dont know
unkempt phoenix
being new to the spec and ignoring advice is completely different
tough whale
^
dreamy ridge
you're arrogant then
hoary copper
^
sweet rampart
deathknot, what might be best legendaries for you might be completely different for someone else...
hoary copper
We have answered you like 10 times
winter cliff
ahh ok why that tato?
high berry
We are rogues , we steal silver platters and sale them
hoary copper
and you ignore it
tough whale
@jovial kite Dude that garothi was nasty af
hoary copper
🥄
dire spoke
steep citrus
i sale you this platter, cost 2 bis
high berry
So has anyone tried a bleed build ?
sweet rampart
because your gear is different, everyones is. Simming it find s the best solution for you entirely
daring cave
Death its Helm n back right now fornbis
winter cliff
so any lendary works then with stats?
sweet rampart
you could just copy and paste some legendaries that the top people are using, but you could be ultimately hurting yourself
winter cliff
for assnation
tough whale
its def crown and pants
dreamy ridge
yeah
young creek
I love ass nation
dreamy ridge
that sims really high for me
dire spoke
sephuz prydaz
steep citrus
my pants are crowning
sweet rampart
could be any legendary, go google how to sim yourself and it will be worth it in the long run
unkempt phoenix
if you don't know how to sim yourself why do you care about a 1-2% dps gain using different legendaries in a prepatch?
dreamy ridge
coven lfr is getting rough bruh
hoary copper
Check #rules-and-guides on what to do with sims
Really? I had no issues on any LFR other than a tank disconnecting with the server crashes
Even Argus we ignored orbs
humble crane
Just try belt/insig or bracer/belt death. They both work well @winter cliff
slate tulip
ltf is always rough
dreamy ridge
nah, no clue. only did a 15 since pre-patch went live
dire spoke
=_ = ohboi
true ingot
I really don't like how slow the spec is now. 😦
fleet whale
the spec is "fast" if you stack up haste... im at 50 apm righ tnow
true ingot
That's the problem. 25% haste. 😄
young creek
I have higher APM now than before pre patch xD
dreamy ridge
yeah i have no haste gear either lmao
true ingot
I wasn't the type to keep haste gear in my bank on the off-chance one day Blizzard decided to make the stat useful.
dreamy ridge
10% here xd
winter cliff
any idea what the talents are?
tough whale
My reaction when i saw haste was king and i look and i have 31 haste on my rogue
fleet whale
you might be able to restore some haste gear
tough whale
priceless
winter cliff
i use 1/1/1/2/2/3/3
dire spoke
@winter cliff read the pins
tough whale
sweet rampart
@winter cliff check the pins up in the top right and read everything there
daring cave
How do u restore gear?
dreamy ridge
tough whale
help _> gameplay issue -> item restoration
true ingot
I also have no idea how to hit my sims, either. So much time is spent pooling that the damage just doesn't stay consistent.
dreamy ridge
only haste peice i saved lol
tough whale
a poo?
winter cliff
al i see is dps types of roation
twilit thicket
Haste is the way to go now ?
humble crane
You can check my mythic garothi parse on warcraft logs for a general idea deathknot. Should give you something to tinker with
winter cliff
I clicked the bFA guide
royal mango
that isnt the pin
winter cliff
it just single and muit target
silk sundial
Stats, leggos and builds are all dependent on your character and what you have available
winter cliff
i did
royal mango
no you didnt
ebon bramble
did they fix the cloak stacking with the talent?
dire spoke
and you totally ignored ## Talent choices inside the guide
royal mango
click teh pin
unkempt phoenix
imagine needing a guide on how to read a guide
tough whale
This is a yikes from me
dreamy ridge
actually tilted at some of these people lmao
shut robin
Just go stealth and ignore him
winter cliff
so i click the pin i cant see it
dreamy ridge
need perma sap
dire spoke
I'm out
tough whale
its ok someone cast blind on him
dreamy ridge
he's already fuckiing blind
royal mango
i think illidan class changed cos this dude is blind af
winter cliff
so what are the talent people using anyway
shut robin
xD
swift pine
ebon bramble
lol we don't have a raid utility buff XD
proven moth
I'm the only one reading him with an hindi acent ?
shut robin
hahahaha
strange python
"show bis and talents pls"
dire spoke
nice troll
tough whale
gimme bis oks
shut robin
pls show bobs
humble crane
@winter cliff go to warcraft logs for mythic garothi.copy my leggo and talents and work from there. You are only getting heckled here dude
proven moth
"show bis an talents"
tough whale
and vagne
young creek
dreamy ridge
you had the intelligence to find this discord, just go check warcraft logs if you cant find anything here
copy #1 parse and you will do the same dps because its all about talents and leggos
shut robin
check out noxxic imo
twin prism
Any updates on the numbers?
vocal dock
LOL Noxxic
twin prism
Noxxic is dogshit
shut robin
nonono
winter cliff
@humble crane go to the boss ? on warcraft logs?
dark parcel
lmao prydaz sims highest for me
thick comet
congrats on no daze
dreamy ridge
winter cliff
ahhh ok thanks
winter cliff
help ful
tough whale
yikes
dire spoke
nice spoonfeeding
humble crane
It works yeah
tough whale
Cant wait to see him right as bfa drops doing this all over again
"it worked last time"
dreamy ridge
he'll reroll dh or hunter
tough whale
dk imo
dreamy ridge
can join the survival hunter discord
proven moth
"show bis and talents plz, worked last time"
tough whale
Also big fan of blizzard nerfing rogue cape + talent combo
when dk chest + talent combo is still multi
humble crane
Sxul in my guild also had rank 1 arg with belt. I used 1 leggo because my headset bugged just before pull @dreamy ridge . So I didn't have my belt on lol
humble crane
Yes
slate tulip
what talent you use for 90 and 100?
junior flume
Around 5k is decent damage these days? I feel bad when comparing to slap 😛 But it seems 5k-ish is decent?
humble crane
Also the poor guy wasn't a primary English speaker. He wasn't trolling. People expended more energy paying him out then it would have taken to link him a log
strange python
does ct still snapshot all of nightstalker
mental vessel
lol i do like 2k at i level 199 super beat.
unkempt phoenix
neo, he was linked guides and raidbots and told how to work it out
tough whale
^
unkempt phoenix
he just refused to do anything and wanted to be lazy
hollow rose
talent guide when
junior flume
i sim 5.3 but i have sooo much mastery 😦
atomic hamlet
@wheat solstice how much crit do you have ?
keen inlet
@hollow rose It's in le pins
winter cliff
thanks neo
dreamy ridge
idk if this is anywhere but is potion of the old war a better pre-pot now?
winter cliff
@humble crane
frosty linden
Anyone got any non-scuffed weakauras?
humble crane
All good matey @winter cliff
wheat solstice
whoops
I linked the wrong logs
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vrb5CFWgNkZ8qXwMTfHs5H
hoary copper
Kek 9
tough whale
9
dreamy ridge
9 😮
hoary copper
Slack is turning into Xae but with 100 logs too
tough whale
If youre not first you're last
atomic hamlet
can you link your warcraftlog ? @jovial kite
atomic hamlet
thanks buddy
jovial kite
no way thats 9 percentile
atomic hamlet
well there are 52 parses
plucky ember
ehm might have been brought up already, whats the new go-to talents for sin?
fierce ingot
its in pinned
median marsh
"HOLD YOUR HORSES FAM
-The interaction for HB + CLOAK got reworked. The calculations are now additive instead of multiplicative. "
Is this live? I didn't see any hotfix
plucky ember
is it hidden in the guide?
true ingot
It is
atomic hamlet
@jovial kite there is just one parse at hounds
plucky ember
or is my phone fucking with the file
hoary copper
Pretty bad if you're the only log and you're not first
tough whale
@median marsh Its been live since prepatch hit
plucky ember
found it, thanks
median marsh
Thanks
turbid gust
does someone has an updated energy wa?
dreamy ridge
there's these wa's @turbid gust https://wago.io/BkJ1X6jRb
turbid gust
@dreamy ridge thanks a ton
solar willow
i have 1% haste
junior flume
Has anyone tested the various neck enchants?
solar willow
should i start getting haste/crit gear now
true ingot
Sim yourself.
mental vessel
what is sim
dire spoke
nimble barn
back ring still bis after hotfix ?
night bridge
ay
true ingot
Sim yourself
nimble barn
arent the simms still unfixed ?
true ingot
No.
vestal wren
some things are fixed, others are not
leaden elk
cloak interaction ?
vestal wren
simulations are run but they take time to finish, update on herodamage will probably take a bit
leaden elk
We need the leggo sims T_T
strange python
did they nerf mantle WHTF