assassination

[exotic glen]

idk we wiped on it a lot yesterday but luckily i wasnt in hehe

yeah gl man

[sand whale]

well we found out that

the hunter and boomkin we were bringing for the past 3 kills had no idea cone targetted them when they had either rage/fear/buff

found that out the hard way then rng favored them

cones everywhere

[drifting cloud]

well apparently cones dont target melee

wish I knew that during prog

🤔

[obtuse cedar]

thank u man

gonna be a tough progress topkek

many people doing ramadan

so we're loosing about 4 people

[exotic glen]

ramadan prohibits computer games?

[obtuse cedar]

we're raiding the afternoon

[drifting cloud]

and how the module only spawns on people with fear

how is that like secret info

[obtuse cedar]

playing on different timestamps than "normal guilds"

raiding with people from canada and we're from eu

[drifting cloud]

and it wasnt anywhere when we progged 3months ago

[exotic glen]

its not secret lmao

[sand whale]

one of our new tanks taught us something new that made things easier

[drifting cloud]

I literally found it out watching xyros stream

after we had already killed the boss like 2 times

[sand whale]

transitioning to last phase you can hit log out before argus kills you. it'll stop the logout timer and punt you closer to the tree

[drifting cloud]

oh so thats how you abuse that

seen it before yeah 😄

[obtuse cedar]

isn't that some sort of minor exploit ? xd

[exotic glen]

im trying to find a suitable emote for that

[sand whale]

yeah we were like wow easy kills so much burst so much time

[exotic glen]

but i dont even know how to react

there, you get that

[sand whale]

yeah probably an exploit lol

though it created some lols when people would accidentally log off and find themselves outside of the instance

[smoky tulip]

I wouldn’t recommend running out of melee range to spread. Having 4 melee spread each side can be done while still dpsing

P3 last haze has 5 rages go out. If you have been lax on spreading in P1 and p2. Spreading in p3 will kick your arse

Gaze*

We would set positions at 90 degrees inside and outside then 45 degrees inside and outside

[sand whale]

^ he put it more clearly than I did

[smoky tulip]

Also be careful if you are stacking with rogues in P1 then CloSing the rage dot, if you’re targeted by blight it’ll drop wherever you are when CloS is up and screw anyone else standing on you

We stacked when we first started P1 and saw the error of our lazy arse ways very quickly

[glossy ocean]

Hey guys, what talents do I run for m+ in general?

[spare cloud]

same you usually run

[glossy ocean]

ok nice

[hybrid hound]

How do assasins get the Poisen Bomb to be yelled in raid?>

[civic palm]

They become all that it means to be toxic.

[steep obsidian]

you don't coz its really annoying

but you can get a weak aura

[civic palm]

I've a WA on WAGO that does it.

Though I might change it to troll the user alone > _>

[wise frigate]

Upload one that every time PB procs it generates an Aman'thul's drop alert.

[civic palm]

Pretty much.

Though I was more thinking along the lines of fake chat messages so it seems like you are being obnoxious.

[sand whale]

legend has it that

if you /say poison bomb proc, it'll happen more often

[vale helm]

If you're in m+ jumping from pack to pack and find yourself stealthed as they pull the next pack with Garotte on CD, How would you open? Atm using cheap shot since I don't have any leggos yet.

[sand whale]

fok

don't open with cheapshot

you start the stun DR faster if you do that

[dire spoke]

https://snag.gy/TAILrk.jpg

dafuq

[civic palm]

Whack reporting.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vale helm]

And how would that turn out if I have leggo shoulders? Just normal rotation stuff? 4+cp -> Rupture or FoK otherwise?

[sand whale]

still just fok on aoe

[dire spoke]

you only FoK with FoK relics

if you have 5+ PK relics, you may FoK at 3CP

^ on single target that is

[vale helm]

Alright 😃 thx

[dire spoke]

I assumed boss fights, sorry - didn't read back

[lone junco]

@Balou#5106 once you have shoulders in m+. We don't garrote or rupture in during shoulder window.

[honest needle]

sims are telling me to not use mantle. It wants me to use wrist and insignia ring. i think iits because i got 980 shoulders from gorothi mythic.

so with vanish i just use vanish now to apply rupture if im using nightstalker right

or should i just stick with mantle

[nimble tartan]

do w.e the sims tell u, i imagine your overall ilvl is on the lower side so a 980 is probably giving u a lot of value

[sand whale]

probably depends per fight basis, some fights mantle will just be a benefit to use and how far ahead is it simming ahead of mantle?

[honest needle]

im 970 with mantle if i switch to insignia and wrist with the 980 shoulders ill be 975

[lone junco]

You can drop shoulders if it is an upgrade. Will change your weights so make sure to have a pawn string for shoulder/bracer and bracer/+

I use bracer boot typ.

And shoulder bracer for m+

[honest needle]

so u dont think insignia is worth using

[lone junco]

If it's an upgrade then yes.

Some people use Insig boot.

Insig is typ. an Ep build.

So you run fairly high crit.

Ep subt Vig tb.

[honest needle]

this is with mantle https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/in92YqFFtFfiQKBfwhh9xs

this is without https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wNDwPhkKCs9UYusMNv2ob8

same talents

[manic vigil]

should try subterfuge with the non-mantle setup

[lone junco]

I'm like 2080 at 954. 2p4p is funny.

[honest needle]

ok should i do subterfuge with ep as well

[manic vigil]

you can test ep, depends on your crit afaik

was a harsh loss for me

is actually

[lone junco]

Ep/subt/Vig/tb. Insig boot.

Same Insig bracer.

[manic vigil]

it's a loss for me (ep)

🤷

[lone junco]

Yah. Most Ep builds run closer to 45-50% crit.

[manic vigil]

yeah I have barely 30

[lone junco]

Insig has a ton though.

And BB relics help.

[manic vigil]

true

[honest needle]

but from the 2 sims i linked should i just stay with mantle

[lone junco]

No.

[sand whale]

sim with insignia with the right build and see where it takes you. Staying mantle is just more of a personal choice whether you can be bothered switching gear/talent builds to max output on bosses or the ocasssion

[lone junco]

Bracer boot Is also strong.

[honest needle]

im simming insignia with subterfuge now

[lone junco]

If you want shoulder to be good you need like 28c/225m

[honest needle]

u use nightstalker or subter with boots wrist ?

[lone junco]

Subt.

[honest needle]

whats 28c ?

huh'

[sand whale]

crit

which I think you have easily seeing I have mainly vers mastery off pieces and sit at 23% crit XD

[lone junco]

It's the >200m that is important.

[honest needle]

this is with subterfuge https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/faMp8vEBFTQnxDA2vhTe69

so its a big higher

[vapid moth]

Why no rupture in shoulder window for m+?

[sand whale]

yeah I'd play that build if you're pushing for bosses

[honest needle]

so with subterfuge do i just vanish farrote ?

gar

[lone junco]

Also change your settings to Nightly. 100k.

[honest needle]

i wanna sim wrist boots as well

u said subter with thaty

anything else

[sand whale]

oh wait I think I just derped

[lone junco]

@vapid moth in the open for trash mut env FOK env. For bosses you can still do the normal opener.

[vapid moth]

I still slip on a rupture if it's a pack of 3 or 4.

[steep obsidian]

i changed to a 965 crit heavy verse neck which simmed a tiny bit less then my 950 and i think its better come at me

[lone junco]

If only 4sec. Rupture after shoulder is over.

[steep obsidian]

not being starved for crit feels so much better :\

[lone junco]

High crit is qol for sure.

[vapid moth]

Always felt the immediate energy was better than one buffed envenom

[steep obsidian]

look at your 4p

[lone junco]

Nah. You are going for 8cp and 2env 2pbomb in 4 sec.

[steep obsidian]

and you will understand u fock in crit window

that + the extra cp from crit foks

[lone junco]

In m+ If 2T you mut envenom mut env. Needs to be 3 for the fok. In shoulder.

[vapid moth]

I have low crit

[lone junco]

In m+ Shoulder. Mut env mut env.

[honest needle]

with boots wrist i run subterfuge and other talent changes ?

[lone junco]

In m+ After the shoulder drops you FOK and rupture.

Boot wrist is. mP. Subt. Vig. Tb.

But if you don't track the shoulder buff with a wa. I could see that being a problem.

[honest needle]

wat u mean track shoulder buff if u wanrent using them

with boots wrist

[queen kayak]

yo here is a dumb question

does anyone have a WA for posions

im an dumbass who always forgets to refresh them

[lost horizon]

To remind you to put on deadly poison?

Ye lemme find mine

[queen kayak]

yeahj

[safe matrix]

i should probably get those too

I've had it happen a couple times recently

FeelsBadMan

[queen kayak]

ill go through the first like 30 seconds of a fight before realizing

feelsverybad

[lost horizon]

Fair warning, this WA calls you a dipshit

https://wago.io/ryIfYiclf

[queen kayak]

just the way i like it

[lost horizon]

👌 lemme know once you import if there's an issue

[steep obsidian]

making shit like that loud, large and obnoxious is the way to go

only make that mistake once

and you get in the habit of just watching yer poison timer

[lost horizon]

It's a big red stop sign in the middle of your screen

[steep obsidian]

regardless of any wa

yeh

[lost horizon]

That says: 'apply poisons dipshit'

[queen kayak]

ty so much

its perfect

[lone junco]

@queen kayak

[dire spoke]

AP was cool

no silly swapping targets, just funnel

f*ck mechanics

[steep obsidian]

newp

only thing cool about ap was it made us scale well in that tier

everything else was shit

[dire spoke]

hater

[onyx falcon]

how old is that picture Noobe XD

[lost horizon]

Can't be THAT old, aren't those t21 PvP shoulders?

[wise frigate]

Looks like the LFR color to me.

[lost horizon]

Or just heroic t21

Wait yeah

Nah I'm dumb you right

[wise frigate]

Hard to tell in the dank lighting down there.

[signal reef]

Is assassination super legendary reliant? I just boosted to 110 so im trying to figure out what spec i want to play for pve and pvp

[supple hearth]

yes. new expansion comes out in a few months. gear doesnt matter for pvp. for pve youre going to want legendaries for all three

especially shoulders

[signal reef]

Ahh ok...am i betterr off with outlaq or sub then? Sorry super new to rogue

[supple hearth]

youre best off playing whatever you have fun with

[jolly heart]

^ This

[supple hearth]

they are all about equal at the level you'll be playing at and all are going to be legendary dependant.

so whatever is most comfy to you

[signal reef]

Cool ok

[vivid galleon]

Hi,
Is there anyone who can go over my guildies logs real fast?
He's feeling kinda down since the GM told him to get blue parses if he wants to get to "raider" rank
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7jTZPcpdnFWbKYmh#fight=19&type=damage-done&source=12

[viscid helm]

Tell him to read the guide

[civic palm]

SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE

[viscid helm]

I mean if he cant even get blue ranks its kinda pointless to go over logs when clearly it isnt some small things

[vivid galleon]

He did read it.

His opener seems to be exactly what's written there, the only thing i can see is that his bleeds are hovering ~92%

[civic palm]

98%+ or bust

[vivid galleon]

Okay, atleast tell me if there's a way to see from logs with how many Combo points he used finishers?

[civic palm]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7jTZPcpdnFWbKYmh#fight=19&type=resources&source=12&spell=104

[past ridge]

Rotation wise its not too bad, his bleed uptime needs to be higher 98%+, but most importantly his gear optimization is really bad, he is at 23% crit and only 140% mastery and on a poison build, but with that much Versa he is having he should proberbly go with a bleed build

[vivid galleon]

Ah, okay. : o
So his stats are messed up for the current build he's using.

[civic palm]

Need much more crit for bleed IIRC.

[hollow goblet]

Also his combo point overflow is too high

Sorry, his energy overflow, not combo point. His cp was fine.

[civic palm]

Making me look bad!!

[warm parcel]

You dont just go bleed no

[steep obsidian]

huh

[warm parcel]

Hes just bad gear and as pointes out dog gear

Going bleed would just lower his dps by another 200k

[hollow goblet]

Sorry! D:

[warm parcel]

Both sim and executionwise

And he did bleed cps with muti too

0 reason for that to happen

Sf bleed was high too

[civic palm]

Yeah he just needs to focus on getting stats on his gear that the SIMs are presenting as being better, have better uptime on Garrote and Rupture, never Mutilate @ 4CP, and don't cap on energy.

[warm parcel]

Likely due to the bad mutis

[vivid galleon]

Aight, thanks guys. : )

[hollow goblet]

I mean, sometimes it can't be avoid but you generally want to minimizalize the wasted combo points and energy tabs as a rule of thumb

But also agreed on the gear issue. Too much haste and vers, need better legendaries. 1.4m isn't terrible dps, but there is significant room to improve.

[dire spoke]

imagine getting upgrades for you main in 2k18

[hollow goblet]

I wish i could get an upgrade for my main :(

[lone junco]

@onyx falcon that snip was taken right then.

I never took AP out of my WA.

[stark heart]

Imagine caring about main in 2k18

[orchid swallow]

pft if you're not 970+ is it really your main?

[civic palm]

If you play a SPriest... meebee.

[turbid pecan]

been studying and practicing and must say im very happy with my progress 😄

still low gear and no legendaries sadly

but im working on it!

[stark heart]

My main is 969 ilvl

Fite me

[solid nova]

I wouldnt really use an LFR log to judge performance. At best it can be used to look at rotations / priority managements.

But as a parsing %, no.

[turbid pecan]

yeah but still its something lol

[solid nova]

To look into rotations and how you managed cds yes certainly.

[safe matrix]

Sometimes in lfr I hit the boss once and afk

[turbid pecan]

another thing i thought was cool was my dps was 703k and my sim dps is 715k

[solid nova]

With poison bomb you can do above your sim DPS

[safe matrix]

^

[solid nova]

Sim takes an average over X amount of iterations

[safe matrix]

also depends on the fight too

[solid nova]

So have an above average PB proc and you'll exceed it, even if your rotation isnt correct

But LFR is not even a remotely competitive environment, so looking at it as a source for performance comparison is wrong.

[safe matrix]

However, you can look at it as a source of information

you ahve your log

[solid nova]

Having logs to check how you personally perform from a rotational point of view though

Is a good thing

[safe matrix]

and your timeline of casts

and can go over it

Also there probably aren't many good players with LFR logs at 897

because A) they have a higher ilvl by now

[solid nova]

2. Bots
3. People afk and dont care in LFR

You KB before TB on occasions, and vendetta late on the pull. Vanish rupture is fine and on brief glance I'll assume you crit a lot in the opener and not blindly opening as if you had mantle. Noticed a KB into rupture, where ideally you want 100% envenom uptime during it so missed a cast

From previous chats you're getting there mate, just keep at it

Try not to Feint + evasion + Crimson Vial, thats massive overkill and a energy waste which translates to a dps loss

[safe matrix]

evasion has an energy cost?

[solid nova]

With feint and CV its overkill

Feint and CV is wasted energy

Especially for LFR

Thats a panic press all 😄

[zealous dew]

panic mode on!

[cedar marten]

about which boss are we talking?

[solid nova]

Its Vari

[safe matrix]

LFR

If you need to survive a super heavy hitting mechanic like garothi's smash on mythic you can feint+CV

[cedar marten]

feint isn't much use there, if you're really struggling with hp, cloak and cv

[safe matrix]

but otherwise, most things dont hit hard enough

[solid nova]

You were targeted by mark prey and popped all you're defensives

[cedar marten]

but i hardly think that's neccesary

[solid nova]

@cedar marten Was full hp when targeted

Literally panic pressed

[cedar marten]

ah

[solid nova]

LFR Marked prey wont even tickle you

[cedar marten]

also there's no misery mechanic in lfr so, it's safe to take the hit

shadowstep back

[solid nova]

Its safe anyway

[viscid helm]

Why would u use any of those spells on mark

Lul

[safe matrix]

because they're new to the class 🤷

[solid nova]

Either let someone else take the hit

Or take it and shadow step back

You wont need a defensive

[viscid helm]

Vial doesnt heal

Feint has no effect

[cedar marten]

the latter is a good option, take and shadowstep

[safe matrix]

dense concoction tho

xd

[cedar marten]

tbh it's not worth using it for, not on lfr at least

[solid nova]

Not on normal

Not on heroic

🤷🏼

[safe matrix]

i was joking

yikes

[solid nova]

@safe matrix Its okay, i understand you fam

[safe matrix]

also nice skin tone 2 richard

[solid nova]

Its the default for me

[cedar marten]

@solid nova was more thinking about it as an half panic button for the initial hit

[solid nova]

Well unless elusiveness feint wont do anything

Dont think ive ever popped a cd for it

[safe matrix]

doesnt shadowstep count as a cd 🤔

[viscid helm]

None of that does anything

[shrewd pine]

poor dude, was happy about purple log and got roasted

[solid nova]

Roasted? Not really.

[cedar marten]

@safe matrix nah more of an utility tbh

[turbid pecan]

not sure what you ment about the not having mantle opener i thought regardless of mantle you want to vanish rupture and start in stealth and use garrote at beginning of fight

[safe matrix]

there are two openers in the guide for poison build, one for NS and the other for subterfuge

[solid nova]

Mut > Env > Mut > Env > Mut > Env

[viscid helm]

I always PK on pull to get snapshotted NS PK in

[atomic grotto]

fok da police

[solid nova]

🚔

[cedar marten]

🚔

[solid nova]

@turbid pecan And no, you wont be vanishing into rupture with mantle

[atomic grotto]

8.5mil envenom with NS and all the procs\

feelsgoodman

[safe matrix]

I believe in richard being able to teach his new protege

[solid nova]

no u

I'm playing monk for BFA so i'll be redirecting my PMs to you @safe matrix

[cedar marten]

just saying about the logs, in lfr high logs tend to show you've some good rotation, keep that up

[safe matrix]

I'm switching to mm I'll redirect them to flowi 🤷

[atomic grotto]

lfr logs 🤔

[turbid pecan]

ah i always thought the goal was to vanish rupture or vanish garrote but just read the pinned guide

[solid nova]

LFR logs should not be used as a comparison for performance

At best they should be used for rotation / priority checking

As said

4 times

LFR logs are better than no logs 🤷🏼

[cedar marten]

Vanish rupture is common when not using shoulders (if not having it, i suppose)

[atomic grotto]

lfr>mythic

[safe matrix]

usually you wanna run subt if you dont have shoulders though

lfr is harder than mythic though

1v24 m8

[solid nova]

I think ive wiped more times on LFR covern then Mythic tbh

[atomic grotto]

thats so true

[cedar marten]

you've less people you can rely on, and good god... LFR argus -screams internally-

[turbid pecan]

just want to say thanks to all of you guys! feeling good about this spec i think it clicks better with me than most other dps

[atomic grotto]

lfr coven nightmarish

[shrewd pine]

lfr argus got nothing on lfr aggramar with tanks who dont realize he does 4 times flame rend and not the cleave

[safe matrix]

tbh that one is more understandable

for the tanks to fuck up

like once though

because who expects 4 flame rends

[cedar marten]

@shrewd pine it takes a wipe to at least have a chance to solve it, but argus lfr, is just.... people being idiots and standing in fog for 'dps'

[shrewd pine]

I wish Kharsh, I wish

[solid nova]

If you're wiping on LFR

There's special problems at hand

[shrewd pine]

was going for transmog on my rogue last week, joined group on aggramar

on 6 stacks of determination

I couldnt comprehend

they wiped, got to 7, I left.

legend say they are still wiping there

[solid nova]

Pure spice

[cedar marten]

Good god, was that on a day before reset?

[shrewd pine]

sunday

Neither of the tank spoke english

and raid refused to kick them, because its toxic

[cedar marten]

here have 10 stack determination, which insta kills bss, just skip this one ;_;

[atomic grotto]

i wouldnt kick someone on lfr tbh

except if he was afk

[cedar marten]

at 1 or 2 determination, sure but 7? kicking is a mercy

[shrewd pine]

7 stacks of determination... that warrants a kick imo

was good opening with that damage bonus tho, felt nice doing 8,5mil dps opener

im a sub pleb, just hijacking this thread cuz im bored am work

[dire spoke]

go away

[shrewd pine]

noo plz, I killed argus as sin, that must count

[cedar marten]

eh i'm less into sub, thinking about goign to it though for non raid content

Therianek, you've entered the realm of poisons, please use antidotes after touching anything 😉

[shrewd pine]

Just refiling my poison bombs here for execute on argus

[atomic grotto]

fill those vials with good luck

[dire spoke]

that makes no sense

[atomic grotto]

but throwing a bottle of poisons ont he ground when u use a poisonous melee attack with ur daggers makes?

[cedar marten]

sorry but good luck doesn't deal damage

poisons do

[atomic grotto]

pray to the rng gods

maybe sacrifice some animals and 1-2 virgins

[solid nova]

Sacrifice the people that ask questions before reading pins

[shrewd pine]

wouldnt that be a massive insult to whatever god you are worshipping tho?

[solid nova]

🤷🏼

Less damage to eyes

[atomic grotto]

come on dont be so upset about the pin guys

there are people who join for the first time a discord channel

and dont know about them

[solid nova]

Good thing one of the first messages available is If you are new to class Discords, please check out http://www.ravenholdt.net/class-discords-the-basics/

#rules-and-guides

[atomic grotto]

hehehe

[atomic grotto]

they can actually just read the guide

first

[shrewd pine]

reading in 2k18 :OMEGALUL:

[solid nova]

I gotchu

[shrewd pine]

shit

my nitro expired

[solid nova]

[dire spoke]

and then being called elitist and unfriendly by people who only read and hardly write here, because the answer to most questions is "read the pins"

[solid nova]

Can someone other than Zempai answer pls

[atomic grotto]

no sir

im reading the pins

😮

[solid nova]

Elitists with their fancy green names

Smh

[atomic grotto]

they should have known this is a toxic channel

[solid nova]

If this is toxic

[marble hemlock]

whats so wrong about being elitist though? people come here to become more competitive, wouldnt you want to get advice from some elite players?

[solid nova]

Whats wrong with wanting to be good?

[shrewd pine]

elitist =/= elite

[solid nova]

No idea mate

❄ generations

[nimble tartan]

hello i am here

[atomic grotto]

hello omr

[nimble tartan]

i am the most elite here

bow to me

unskilled plebs

[atomic grotto]

get out plox

[nimble tartan]

i have ascended logs

[atomic grotto]

link dem plis

[nimble tartan]

i am here to give u all advice

from a top tier raiding guild

please remember this

Feint more

that is all

[solid nova]

If you spam feint, all your healers can DPS

[nimble tartan]

if u dont have 100% feint uptime

u r playing WRONG

[shrewd pine]

15 second CD on BFA, Spec ruined

[solid nova]

Class ruined *

[nimble tartan]

15 sec feint excuse u

imquitting

[shrewd pine]

[zealous dew]

elite player 😄

[nimble tartan]

i am THE ELITE

[solid nova]

Please dont make me have to think when i have to use feint

[marble hemlock]

wouldve been fine with the 15sec cd feint that only provides 40% mitigation if they went back to 0 energy cost again

[atomic grotto]

i should change the feint keybind for BfA

im used to spamming it when i walk around

[nimble tartan]

i cant believe im the cutest rogue player here

[solid nova]

Whats the keybind

Expose yourself

[atomic grotto]

`

[nimble tartan]

wow im so privileged

[solid nova]

Those were separate statements btw

[nimble tartan]

to be ELITE

and CUTE

[marble hemlock]

you got any proof to back up those claims btw?

[nimble tartan]

yes i do

the proof that u dont know me is proof enough that i have ascended the plebs

[solid nova]

It's cute that he thinks he's elite

[nimble tartan]

i have cemented myself in the annals of history

but u have not done your history hw

study up

[solid nova]

In the anals of history

This is a history lesson im upset i missed.

[nimble tartan]

u only put 1 finger in

[atomic grotto]

me too

[nimble tartan]

u need to put the fist

only then

will u see everything u need to know

[atomic grotto]

if i wanted a fist i would play monk bruh

[marble hemlock]

sounds like someone didnt take their medicine

[atomic grotto]

he speaks the truth \

anals of history

[marble hemlock]

it is known?

[nimble tartan]

ye i did take my medicine

[atomic grotto]

sounds catchy

[nimble tartan]

its called DRAGON ENERGY

u seemed to have misplaced your prescription

because u my friend

[solid nova]

Whens the sugar crash happening?

[nimble tartan]

are not DRAGON ENERGY

i have the aura of a champion

[marble hemlock]

a champion of nurgle?

[solid nova]

Omr appears, then dies for a day or two then reappears in his states of dragon energy

I reckon he just does loads of coke and disapears on his come downs

[nimble tartan]

they call me the PHEONIX

in Central America

[solid nova]

r u ok

[marble hemlock]

Coke Phoenix is actually a pretty decent name

[solid nova]

Omr is the Coke Phoenix of Central America

[nimble tartan]

my mouse has been forged in the fires of the sun

only my hands can handle the heat

[marble hemlock]

you realize the sun isnt made of fire, right?

[solid nova]

How much can your nostrils handle though?

Thats the real question

[nimble tartan]

not your sun

my sun

because you are a mere mortal

i am cosmic

[solid nova]

I got kites that dont fly as high as you mate

[nimble tartan]

i knew u werent dragon energy

no man skipping on a field flying kites has the ability to have DRAGON ENERGY

[solid nova]

You've definitely been puffing the magic dragon

Fair play mate

We'll meet you in the cosmics one day fam

[atomic grotto]

Can i smoke what omr is smoking?

i think it will take my gameplay to the next level

[nimble tartan]

you have the ambition lone_wuf

soon u will ascend

[marble hemlock]

not sure if thats legal

[atomic grotto]

thank you sensei

[nimble tartan]

just remember to feint more

[marble hemlock]

he probably snorts up dried and ground-up umbillical cords

[atomic grotto]

100% uptime is the way to the DRAGON ENERGY

[nimble tartan]

wow im so proud of u

[atomic grotto]

im gonna be elite

[nimble tartan]

you're on the path

[atomic grotto]

unfortunately not cute

(cries)

[solid nova]

You can be meth heads together

Adorable

[nimble tartan]

unfortunately our friend seliathan

is on the wrong path

[solid nova]

@nimble tartan If you pinch yourself and it hurts, are you too strong or too weak?

[nimble tartan]

i just pinched myself and pierced my skin but felt no pain

[solid nova]

Now are you too strong for piercing your skin

Or too weak because your skin was pierced?

[nimble tartan]

but i feel nothing

[atomic grotto]

Did u use feint IRL?

[nimble tartan]

i am feint irl

i am the amassed energy of all the feints used

[spare cloud]

#off-topic

[atomic grotto]

and i am evasion dodging everything but getting fooked in the ass

[nimble tartan]

how can it be off topic if i am the topic

[solid nova]

Omr is filled with poisons

[marble hemlock]

sub/combat dont have the energy to keep up feint 100%

[solid nova]

Hes very much on topic

[marble hemlock]

so im fairly sure this is assa-related

[spare cloud]

Don't make me call the mods

[solid nova]

When did you become so boring Toph

[marble hemlock]

you wouldnt dare telling on us

toph the tattletale

[atomic grotto]

we have an outlaw here

[spare cloud]

I've been snitched on so many times here

[nimble tartan]

he's not so toph at all

[solid nova]

Its 10am and we've answered everyone so far

[spare cloud]

I don't mind snitching

[marble hemlock]

so an eye for an eye?

[solid nova]

But you only have 2 eyes

[marble hemlock]

how dare you

assume the number of eyes i have

[solid nova]

So you can do it twice and thats your quota

I thought you had 2 eyes and 9 lives

[spare cloud]

did someone say twice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0p1bmr0EmE

[nimble tartan]

toph u need to stop idolizing these women

i feel ur testosterone levels SLIPPING

[solid nova]

Take your links to #off-topic Toph

Thanks

[marble hemlock]

ye

[atomic grotto]

Snitch on him

[solid nova]

Thats where kpop belongs

[spare cloud]

tell me to go to #off-topic in #off-topic please

[solid nova]

Only if you go to #off-topic first

[marble hemlock]

when he tells you there

youre already there

[nimble tartan]

i went to the doctor and he told me i had the testosterone levels of 6 strong men

[marble hemlock]

so theres no need to tell you to go there

[spare cloud]

that makes no sense

You guys are weird

[solid nova]

We have something in common then mate

[spare cloud]

don't call me mate, bro

[solid nova]

Sorry dude

I just wanted to be your chum

[nimble tartan]

i must go now until next time

[spare cloud]

You have to fight that out with slaggjack

sorry

[nimble tartan]

ELITE OUT

[spare cloud]

thank god finally gone

[solid nova]

Fight a bleedy boy

[spare cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOpTQ3Fuf9s

they can dance though

[solid nova]

TIL Omr is a coke addict

[spare cloud]

look at his profile picture

him irl

So richard

when are you moving

[solid nova]

Tuesday mate

Everythings set for removals

[safe matrix]

Who has snitched on you toph

[solid nova]

Rest of my life in my car atm

[spare cloud]

and when do you get internet?

[safe matrix]

I'll kill em

[solid nova]

22nd....

[safe matrix]

Snitches get stitches

[solid nova]

It would have been Tuesday if they didnt fuck it up

[spare cloud]

Mizerok has snitched on me

But you can't kill him, he has the kpop stone

[solid nova]

So ill have a week of phone data and work internet use

[spare cloud]

You would need to get someone else with a stone to fight him

rare or don or aethys or notter or flowi

[solid nova]

How does one acquire, said stone?

[safe matrix]

the math stone sounds useless so Aethys is out

[spare cloud]

I don't agree

[safe matrix]

Being afraid of math only works on high schoolers

[spare cloud]

idk man

I can send you stuff that makes your skin crawl

unless you studied it

[solid nova]

I mean math is scary:

If youve got 1 angry man with a knife running at you or 100 angry men with knives running at you

The math suggests, 100 is worse

[safe matrix]

I mean I've done up to calc 4

[spare cloud]

the real question is

[solid nova]

My calculator goes up to 9

Get rekt

[spare cloud]

what is the amount of prime numbers between the angry men

[solid nova]

25 Toph

[spare cloud]

and can you generalize the amount to x angry men

spoiler you can find an upper boundary

I think

[safe matrix]

I can build either a program or an algorithm to do that

Cause fuk day

Math is 4 nerds

Neeeeeeerds

[spare cloud]

fuck you man

I don't want you as my defense anymore

[safe matrix]

But I love you

If I can't be your defense

[spare cloud]

hatin on my subject is like hatin on me

[safe matrix]

I don't wanna live on this cruel world anymore

[spare cloud]

I can't tolerate that

[safe matrix]

Tolerate me

Like I tolerate math

[spare cloud]

also calc 4 in a study that is not math is like calc 2 for us

[safe matrix]

Math is my drug supplier into physics

[spare cloud]

which is basis

unless you've taken special classes

[safe matrix]

Calc 4 is differential equations

[spare cloud]

Yeah thats second semester for us

[safe matrix]

Like laplace?

Second semester was integral and series

[spare cloud]

thats end of first semester/beginning of first semester

[safe matrix]

Then 3D calc like gradients

[spare cloud]

well depends on what kind of series you're talking about

taylor series are beginning of second semester

for us

[safe matrix]

Yeah that was end of semester for us

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/b73143aaedd6601847dce4c8fd321e8d

If you can understand something

you should be

thats second semester for us

8. is differential equations with multiple variables

[safe matrix]

Yeah we did differential equations, but basic ones in second semester

4th was the meat and potatoes with Laplace and fourier

[spare cloud]

how long has it been since you studied?

[safe matrix]

Still working on my degree

[spare cloud]

Would be fun to see if someone with other another subject can solve my second semester practice sheets

[safe matrix]

I did calc 4 about a year ago so maybe

The roughest one was calc 3

I had legit the worst prof ever

Class average of 46%

😬

[spare cloud]

https://gyazo.com/0ba5eacdbc43cb2e517c06852e305e7d

give it a try

I can translate if you dont understand

smth

[safe matrix]

But I'm comfy and in bed

[spare cloud]

just proof that it converges for every x,y element r^n

its 1 point so not that hard

[solid nova]

I thought i recognised you two from somewhere

https://gph.is/1e9VKXn

[safe matrix]

Proofs were always my weak point tbh

[spare cloud]

unlucky

[safe matrix]

Math is about application for me

[spare cloud]

Yeah well we proof everything

we had special classes for it in the beginning even

to learn how to formulate proofs etc.

[safe matrix]

I took the proof class as well

But I didn't really enjoy it

[spare cloud]

Still can't do it properly though 🤷

[safe matrix]

So I never bothered committing a lot of it to long term

[spare cloud]

Yeah well if you don't study it you don't need it

Only other subject you need proofs for in a comparable amount is probably physics

[safe matrix]

And computer science

Designing algorithms requires proof

[spare cloud]

But i mean there has to be both sides, without the proofs you can't do your work

and if your work didnt exist mine would be useless

so 🤷

[safe matrix]

Ye, I just like to cheat on the math a lot

I don't need an insane amount of it

[spare cloud]

computer science requires way different stuff than what we do

[safe matrix]

Just 3D/surface/line integrals, Laplace, derivatives, and linear math

[spare cloud]

Yeah but nowadays you can brute force most numerical stuff

which is useful

[safe matrix]

God bless

[spare cloud]

imagine living in the 1970s and figuring all that stuff out without the power of a super computer

[nimble tartan]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[safe matrix]

I think the most annoying parts would be angles

Like sin and cos

And tan/arctan

Exponents and logs too

Fuk dat

[spare cloud]

@nimble tartan why are you still here

[solid nova]

Tagging him only brings him back Toph

Whyudodis

[nimble tartan]

AHHHHHHHHHH

[spare cloud]

isn't it obvious

[solid nova]

🤦🏼

[spare cloud]

go back to your work richard

[solid nova]

I was enjoying the Math discussion lurk

[jovial kite]

take this 'math' shit to #off-topic please

[spare cloud]

not even math discussion tbh

[solid nova]

Student demanding things

[spare cloud]

Fuck off slaggjack you go to offtopic

then you're good

[safe matrix]

I'm gonna take this discussion to bed

And go to sleep

[jovial kite]

yeah follow liavres example

[spare cloud]

going to sleep at 11 am

[safe matrix]

I'll take u to bed slagg

[jovial kite]

yes

i prepared the sauna

for you to lay cables on

[spare cloud]

Slagg

mythic tomb when

[jovial kite]

prolly tuesday

[solid nova]

Your clocks broken mate

Its just turned 11am

[safe matrix]

ur clocks dum

And ur dum too

[spare cloud]

You live in the wrong country dude

[safe matrix]

If Canada is wrong I don't wanna be right

[spare cloud]

touche

[solid nova]

I would like to go

Looks nice

[spare cloud]

nice and cold

[jovial kite]

dont go to quebec

proper cunts there

[spare cloud]

I would like to go as well

[safe matrix]

Nah not even cold

Depends where and when you go

[spare cloud]

I want to move to canada someday 🤷

[solid nova]

Are Canadians more polite then Brits?

[safe matrix]

I mean

[spare cloud]

Sorry

[solid nova]

Am i going to be out shined by politeness

[jovial kite]

Sorry

[safe matrix]

We can be passive aggressive

[spare cloud]

Sorry

[solid nova]

Excuse me

[safe matrix]

Like there are assholes here

But apparently I'm just spoilt

[spare cloud]

liar

Sorry

[solid nova]

Pardon me?

[jovial kite]

I beg your pardon

[solid nova]

Even if it does look bare cold fam

It still looks really nice

So its on the list 🤷🏼

[spare cloud]

nice and cozy

[safe matrix]

It's only cold in eastern/middle Canada for the winters

[spare cloud]

in the cold laying in bed in the warmth man

best feeling ever

[solid nova]

The only thing i can tell you about other countries

Is the Nile is over rated

[safe matrix]

In BC it barely drops below freezing by Vancouver

[solid nova]

Full of dirt and dead cows

[spare cloud]

Do you not like dead cows or what?

whats wrong with you

[safe matrix]

Dead cows are just hamburger

[solid nova]

Egpyt was no beuno for me

[jovial kite]

id never go to egypt

[spare cloud]

you're no bueno for me!

[solid nova]

Liar Toph

[jovial kite]

or any middle eastern country in this political climate

[solid nova]

I did pyramids and stuff, cool beans and all that

But other than that

[spare cloud]

go on a nice trip to syria

🤷

[nimble tartan]

Hello my fellow DRAGON ENERGY friend slaggjack

[solid nova]

I went to Turkey when ISIS was about

Cheapest holiday ever

£150 all inclusive

[jovial kite]

henlo @nimble tartan 👋🏿

[spare cloud]

@nimble tartan why are you still here

[jovial kite]

yeah we have those packet vacation deals to turkey too

[safe matrix]

Did it cost you an arm and a leg @solid nova

[nimble tartan]

Toph the elites are talkinb

Please restrain yourself

[spare cloud]

but you are in the discussion

[solid nova]

I was prepared for the end at every boat i saw

[spare cloud]

that automatically includes everyone else as an elite

[solid nova]

And every shop sells some odd herbal Viagra

Odd place fam

[jovial kite]

[solid nova]

Every shop.

[spare cloud]

isnt that your

usual enviroment

[solid nova]

Getting called from across the street "Hello my friend, would you like a present for your two lady friends?"

Yeah, dont think their boyfriends will be too impressed mate

[nimble tartan]

I don't mind

[spare cloud]

henlo fren u wan present fo lady fren?

[jovial kite]

in a couple of years going to turkey will be the same as going to syria iran or iraq

[solid nova]

Come inside my shop

[jovial kite]

enjoy while you can

[solid nova]

I have a gift for you

Yeah, nah

[spare cloud]

I dont see the need to go to turkey tbh

[nimble tartan]

Those are countries of peace

[jovial kite]

its a beautiful country

[solid nova]

It was cheap and sunny

[jovial kite]

i've been thrice

[solid nova]

and looks nice

[nimble tartan]

Please talk with them with utmost respect

[spare cloud]

I don't like hot temperatures

[jovial kite]

its a shame they rape it

[solid nova]

It was like

[jovial kite]

well erdogains rape it

[solid nova]

25 ish average?

[spare cloud]

too hot for me

[solid nova]

Not too bad at all

[spare cloud]

anything above 20 is pain

[solid nova]

I start struggling above 30

British problems

Too used to rain

[jovial kite]

i love britain man

[spare cloud]

like 20 degrees and light rain is the shit

[jovial kite]

ima move there one day

[safe matrix]

Toph then you'd love BC for most of the year

[solid nova]

Ive lived in London/Oxford areas all my life

You can have it

[safe matrix]

It gets to low 30s in the summer though

[spare cloud]

that moment when you live near oxford but don't study there

[nimble tartan]

But you get to wear layers all the time that's fashion baby

[solid nova]

Why would i still be studying?

Ive got my degree 🤷🏼

[spare cloud]

You actually went to college?

didn't know that

👍

[safe matrix]

Hi tisumi

[nimble tartan]

hey alacrity goddess u look cute in ur photo r u single

[spare cloud]

hey omr you look weird in your photo, why arent you gone?

[nimble tartan]

u r toxic!!!

[solid nova]

Sleep it off Omr

Sleep it off mate

[spare cloud]

take it like a man

[nimble tartan]

im a girl

[spare cloud]

idc

[nimble tartan]

im out of your league

[solid nova]

Ive seen Toph irl

[spare cloud]

thats why im toxic towards you

if you havent noticed that already

[solid nova]

He's handsome fam

[spare cloud]

Yeah right

[nimble tartan]

ye but hes an incel

[safe matrix]

Everyone is handsome FeelsWowMan

[spare cloud]

My bloodelf rogue looks pretty good

If i do say so myself

[solid nova]

You know when you hear someones voice and you're like "This person sounds good looking"

Thats Toph.

[spare cloud]

what the fuck dude

[safe matrix]

No

I don't know richard

[spare cloud]

Why are you making fun of me now

I can't take that

[safe matrix]

I couldn't say I've ever experienced the feeling

[spare cloud]

I experience that every day when listening to kpop

[safe matrix]

Actually there was this one dude when I was playing overwatch

And his voice

[spare cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8uA702xrE that voice man

[safe matrix]

made my ovaries burst

[solid nova]

Really?

[nimble tartan]

whenever i play ow people say whos that cutie playing mercy

[solid nova]

Toph, Im not trolling you friend 😦

[spare cloud]

then you realize you're playing mccree

and suck

[solid nova]

I dont troll

I'm exclusively sarcastic

[nimble tartan]

i only play truly skilled heroes in ow

like mercy

[solid nova]

But neither applies in this scenario

[spare cloud]

Yeah right

[atomic grotto]

mercy skilled 🤔

[spare cloud]

not understanding sarcasm

[solid nova]

Omr now
Omr when he wakes up

[spare cloud]

i get it its hard sometimes

[solid nova]

Coke life

[spare cloud]

in internet chats

but this one was very obvious

[solid nova]

Toph you didnt remember to put /s

Come on man

[spare cloud]

what does /s mean

idk

[solid nova]

I can smell your sarcasm

Smell it i say

[spare cloud]

why would I need /s when I have

giggle really hurt me with that yesterday

[solid nova]

Ah you think sarcasm is your ally? You merely adopted sarcasm. I was born in it, moulded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding

Giggle has a mean side i agree

But i reckon a real softy at heart

[spare cloud]

I think shes a bully at heart

but can't fully express her bullying because of her rank

[solid nova]

I think a tough outer shell brimming with feelings for love inside

[spare cloud]

so she has to fire shots at people who can't take it from time to time

[solid nova]

Or maybe levels of sarcasm we havent ascended to yet

[spare cloud]

I am almost ascension 15 on slay the spire

there is nothing I havent ascended yet

[solid nova]

Almost 15

But what if Giggle is sat there waiting for you

[spare cloud]

🔜

[solid nova]

[spare cloud]

I don't want to think about that possibility

please stop

[solid nova]

You play PvE

Giggle plays PvP

It wasnt destined in the cards Toph

[spare cloud]

I played pvp back in wotlk

clicked my way to 1800

[solid nova]

Maybe in BFA when PvP meets PvE you can be together at last

🙏🏼

[spare cloud]

the torture

please stop

[echo estuary]

Yeah but TOPH, one could 1v2 in blue gear until 2k or so back then ^^

[solid nova]

Wolk numbers

Ratings inflated

1.8k like 200 now

[spare cloud]

what back then top rated players were only like 2,7k

[echo estuary]

Actually peak by then was well under 3k

[spare cloud]

Yes but perelman

[echo estuary]

You could however 1v2 because the game allowed you to, the gap was vast

[spare cloud]

I was clicking

[echo estuary]

It doesnt matter how good you are now, you're not going to 1v2 at 1.8k ever

Let alone undergeared hehe

Truth be told, i'd probably struggle to to 1v2 past 1.4k its like someone like Tom not being able to outdps two monkeys randomly hitting buttons in antorus

[turbid harbor]

I was going to call him on that as well 😀

[spare cloud]

tom obsession with tom though

tom doesn't even play wow anymore

[turbid harbor]

I don’t read discord at work

but when I do

Perelman is talking about tom

[echo estuary]

meh

insert whoever person that does good deeps, tyra? tom & tyra are top afaik

[fleet siren]

hey guys! i need you opinion with something

[spare cloud]

If youre talking top dps rogues then youre looking for korean guys

Yes pakos

[fleet siren]

right now we do mythic aggramar, lot of the times i think i should delay KB or vendeta from 5-15 sec becuse there will be an intermission or i will have to move away from boss or on adds add is at 25% or something ... is this wrong?

[spare cloud]

You rarely have to go away from boss

When its not intermission

Kb shouldnt be delayed unless its like right before intermission then save for add

Vendetta depends on what your group needs

Probably can delay for like 15 secs for add if you get the full duration on it

You should make sure to have as much uptime as possible

So if adds come in 25 seconds dont delay

[fleet siren]

talking about dealying when i will not get the full duration on target

[echo estuary]

i wouldn't know about the koreans -- they aren't here, all i know is tom&tyra does the most deeps

[fleet siren]

for example 3d time i will cast it the boss will go into intermission in 8-10 sec

[spare cloud]

Do you lose a cast? If yes then use for 15 secs

Better get the 10 seconds in then

If you would lose a cast otherwise

If you dont lose one then go for max uptime

[fleet siren]

ok thnx

[turbid harbor]

I did 2.66m dps on portal keeper a few weeks back while going up in the portals/doing mechanics

was r5 at the time

a few days ago a Korean did 3.9m dps on the same fight

[spare cloud]

Yeh but they cheese much as well

I saw that log he had like 23% pb in a 7 minute fight

[shrewd pine]

LOL

[turbid harbor]

Yea it’s not even worth caring about anymore

[shrewd pine]

jesus fucking procs

what is that madness

[spare cloud]

Not proccs

[turbid harbor]

he stayed down and solid the ads

[shrewd pine]

ooh right

[spare cloud]

Just forced

[shrewd pine]

nvm, ignore my dumbass

[turbid harbor]

Others did boss dmg and interrupts

[spare cloud]

They retry until hes got a good try

With pb procc chance its not that hard to fish for smth like that

[shrewd pine]

yea, forgot about that little detail that they can just let him solo adds, logs matter btw

[spare cloud]

There is a 4,1 mil fel hounds try

2 minute fight tanked together whole duration

[shrewd pine]

thats actually impressive tho, while its still cheese its much harder to pull of than just gripping adds on boss and letting that one selected dude deal with

wasnt there like shadow priest log from high command with 8mil dps?

[turbid harbor]

top 10 log worth 112 all star points 🤔

I cba with logs outside of progress anymore

[shrewd pine]

nvm, 10,5mil log for high command, 8mil is for casuals apparently

[spare cloud]

Yeh

[turbid harbor]

How long is longest voidform

In the 10.5m

[spare cloud]

He had like everything for him

With surrender and ht in the end

Peaked at like 30m dps

[shrewd pine]

jesus christ dude

thats just insane, but then cool as well for having a guild letting you do that shit if you know what i mean

[spare cloud]

Yeh i try to get gold on every fight and im fine with that

Rest is dependant on luck anyway