assassination

[shrewd night]

Maybe the met is to spread out the cds now

omg how dare they

*meta

[strange python]

no

their goal is to simplify the game and slow it down

because modern wow playerbase is too "overwhelmed"

by the amount of things they have to do in short period of time

oh no

[vivid bone]

This is becoming elitist really fast Wazon 😉

[safe matrix]

👏think👏of👏the👏casuals👏

[strange python]

im being honest

[viscid helm]

Console

2020

[shrewd night]

agree to disagree
better continue the conversation anyway btw

[vivid bone]

Elitist and honest can be the same thing

[strange python]

this is quite popular opinion actually

[shrewd night]

Popular opinion amongst the 'elite' or casuals?

Something tells me there is a vocal minority

[safe matrix]

"We should end this conversation BUUUUT here's my last point rq" 😄

[stark heart]

@shrewd night at least this convo is wow-related

[vivid bone]

I don't mind the game slowing down, I've been playing this game for so long, I think the developers know what they are doing 😃 And if they don't, things will be fixed eventually anyways

[strange python]

yes, maybe the gcd change was for casuals, who knows

[shrewd night]

@stark heart trudat

[vivid bone]

If it really feels broken, it will be fixed

[strange python]

just like the ML removal was for 1% of the players

[shrewd night]

Comparing ML to the GCD change

I want what you are smoking btw

[strange python]

lol

what i meant is that

eh nevermind, theres gonna be another few minutes of disagrees

lets just leave it here

[shrewd night]

t-50 seconds for last point

[strange python]

its cool, we have different opinions and views on it

its cool

[vivid bone]

True

[strange python]

you know

atleast we talk wow related things

[stark heart]

^

[strange python]

there was a debate about vaginas for 1,5h yesterday

[stark heart]

let's keep it that way

[strange python]

in this channel

[vivid bone]

Wat, I missed that?

Fuck

But did any of you test extensively on the beta? I mean, in terms of play style of assa and other specs?

I'm kinda curious

[strange python]

me

[steep obsidian]

i have levelled a rogue to 115

[strange python]

played pretty mcuh everything but huntard and tanks

[steep obsidian]

and a mage to 120

[vivid bone]

How does it compare to current assa?

[steep obsidian]

but im just a whiner

[vivid bone]

Like, objectively

[strange python]

its pretty much the same

[steep obsidian]

its hard to compare missing legos and tier and traits makes sin feel like shit compared to what it is on live

long cd on vendetta etc etc

[strange python]

yeah, but gameplay wise

[steep obsidian]

but you always are underpowered when levelling or at 120

[strange python]

its the same sin

[stark heart]

Every spec is slower

[steep obsidian]

pretty much without having to pay attention to kb

[viscid helm]

U can play beta sin on live

[steep obsidian]

things are always slow in shit gear

[strange python]

well sin has been slow for a while now

[stark heart]

I didn't really touch Sub because it didn't receive first pass

Assa is way too slow and empty

Outlaw is cool apart from RtB

[viscid helm]

Untalent VR, dont use poisons and remove KB from bars

[stark heart]

I very much like BF changes

[safe matrix]

Why not take off the artifact weapon altogether?

[stark heart]

well Outlaw is cool when you have to manage BF

[safe matrix]

Poison bomb is irrelevant on beta

[stark heart]

when you enter ST rotation it's

[strange python]

hidden blades beat pb on st

[viscid helm]

Why manage BF when u can just press CT

[strange python]

they'll probably tune pb numbers

[supple mesa]

So is it looking like bleed build with dispatch?????????

[stark heart]

pressing CT as Outlaw?

[supple mesa]

Or still pb talent and master alch

[stark heart]

[shrewd night]

Thats alot of question marks good sir

[steep obsidian]

no one knows numbers

[safe matrix]

I don't think you have enough question marks there

[strange python]

thought we still talk about assa

[steep obsidian]

nothing is tuned properly

[supple mesa]

should i add a few more

[steep obsidian]

some talents arent even in

[shrewd night]

Yes

[stark heart]

there is no Dispatch for Assa

[steep obsidian]

and some will prolly change

[supple mesa]

Ok i will make a mental note for next time

[shrewd night]

No, you need to fix it now

[stark heart]

it's called BLINDSIDE now

[supple mesa]

I just don't know if i want to play rogue again or dh

or monk

[steep obsidian]

disbatch is called blindside

[supple mesa]

idk

[steep obsidian]

run through is now called dispatch

[supple mesa]

fml

[strange python]

do strawpoll

and walk around the city with it

[shrewd night]

Dont start that strawpoll shit

[viscid helm]

They should switch muti and blindside around

[supple mesa]

Wait so blindsidde

is now the execcute

?

im confused :/

[stark heart]

as it always was?

[vivid bone]

I'm leaning towards hunter in BFA

[strange python]

compensation for bracers

[supple mesa]

I started playing wow at the end of tomb

sorry i didnt know xD

[strange python]

im confused why would you ask strangers about what do you want to play in bfa

[shrewd night]

Just waiting for numbertuning before I make decisions in regards to that shaman I got stashed up somewhere

[supple mesa]

Im confused why yuo htink I ever asked your opinion

[viscid helm]

Number tuning is in 4 months

[stark heart]

[vivid bone]

I'm just trying to get all classes to 110 before BfA hits

[strange python]

PSN - Dziś o 09:20
I just don't know if i want to play rogue again or dh
or monk

here

[supple mesa]

Do you see any sort of question there

Or are you just retarded?

[vivid bone]

Easy now

[strange python]

oh well

[shrewd night]

PSN - Today at 9:19 AM
So is it looking like bleed build with dispatch?????????

[stark heart]

that escalated quickly

[shrewd night]

Looks like an opinion based question to me

[supple mesa]

That's a question

[strange python]

oh well

[vivid bone]

Don't be calling people retarded all of a sudden

[shrewd night]

@gaunt moat swing yo hamma

[strange python]

i demand justice

mods!1

[supple mesa]

I would to if I were you.

[stark heart]

[strange python]

ahhhh

[stark heart]

please

[strange python]

save mee

[supple mesa]

x

D

[viscid helm]

Can we not get notter involved

[eager oak]

Hey guys, I have a general opinion question for you all

[supple mesa]

Notter is the voice of reason

Don't ask questrion wanton will flame you

[eager oak]

In your personal opinion, what do you guys think the BEST melee DPS class/spec is right now in Legion?

[supple mesa]

Monk

lol

[vivid bone]

Monk

[eager oak]

I'm a RDPS player and i'm curious what you all think.

[strange python]

you're the one throwing retards aroudn so

[stark heart]

Monk

[strange python]

[safe matrix]

ConcernedFrog

[supple mesa]

Don't start something you cant finish 😃

[shrewd night]

[vivid bone]

🍿

[shrewd night]

Edgelord alarms are blaring holy fuck 🚨

[stark heart]

can we like get back to normal talk about wow?

[strange python]

the modern wow community

right there

[vivid bone]

Well he only started since Tomb, so...

[shrewd night]

Theres that

[strange python]

its alright, we all equal here

[supple mesa]

11/11 mythic

yikes played for 1 mythic raid tier

[strange python]

yeah guys

dont fuck with this guy

[vivid bone]

Wow, got carried through Mythic even!

[supple mesa]

lul you make a condesening remark and cant handle me answering back 😄

[shrewd night]

What does condesening mean

[stark heart]

why RH just has to be shit like that...

[supple mesa]

Oh boy now I got carried 😉

[strange python]

i aint gonna bother asnwering some kid that seeks for attention and throws retards around when people disagree with him

[supple mesa]

xD

[vivid bone]

You're easily triggered PSN

[supple mesa]

Clearly I'm the triggered one xD

[vivid bone]

see

[wise frigate]

ahem #off-topic might serve better from this discussion.

[shrewd night]

Everytime you type xD the more dumb you sound btw

[strange python]

this is getting spicy

[vivid bone]

yeah, it started out alright

Like, did anyone play hunter on beta? or alpha?

[wise frigate]

If Notter wasn't busy eating carrots we'd see warnings/mutes I'd say.

[strange python]

@vivid bone mm is nice on beta

definitely should try it out if u can

[vivid bone]

Nice

I don't like current MM too much

[stark heart]

all hunters main I know say MM is bad

[vivid bone]

same goes for SV right now

[stark heart]

but I found it nice

[wise frigate]

Is beta MM "will suck dick for Vuln windows" or is that gone?

[stark heart]

gone

[vivid bone]

lol

[supple mesa]

Heard the quality of life was better in bfa

Seeing as invuln is gone

errm vuln*

[stark heart]

don't think Vuln exists on beta now even as talent

[supple mesa]

^

I believe that why people like it

[strange python]

@vivid bone if you want to try rdps go with demo lock

untill it gets nerfed

[stark heart]

but I didn't rigorously play it

[strange python]

[vivid bone]

Ooh, I do have a lock at 110

[stark heart]

playing spec on beta because it's OP

smh

[strange python]

well its fun right now

[vivid bone]

As long as it's fun

[strange python]

even tho its overtuned a bit

[stark heart]

I've heard it's just fun to play not because of numbers

[vivid bone]

I don't mind doing less dps than optimal

[wise frigate]

Ah okay. I fell out of MM cause I sucked at managing Vuln lol

[supple mesa]

Curious to see if monk/dh are still best for m+ in bfa

[stark heart]

they finally made it good

[strange python]

big numbers just add more to it

[stark heart]

I only really tried ww, mm, rogues, mages

[vivid bone]

Lots of positive things 😃 Excited about BfA tbh. Can't believe it's so close to releasing already

[viscid helm]

Its shit

[stark heart]

WW felt fluid but kinda simple I guess

[viscid helm]

Garbage

[vivid bone]

I keep thinking the release date is going to be moved

[supple mesa]

Fire mage looks like it will be strong

[strange python]

also deathbolt for afflocks hits for 40k

thats some dfa level satisfaction

[vivid bone]

Thanks Flowi 😉

That balances it out

[stark heart]

dw everything is shit for Flowi

[vivid bone]

I know

[viscid helm]

I can list you the positive things about BFA

Here;

I'm done

[vivid bone]

Ah, so you not playing is a positive thing

😉

[stark heart]

Flowi not posting here would definitely be a positive thing

[viscid helm]

[strange python]

what u on https://i.gyazo.com/2f8310f93b3d8240f7cf3899480abbb9.png

[wise frigate]

I've been debating leveling a warlock in case I enjoy it for Demo or Destro. Or you know all 3 specs tbh.

[vivid bone]

Leveling a lock is pretty fun imo

Like leveling a hunter, feels pretty good having a pet around you can talk to

[viscid helm]

[prisma gull]

Atm I enjoy destro most of all. Demo early game seems to do shit dps. In a dungeon yesterday I did more aoe dps on my holy priest by spamming holy nova. But by all accounts its ezmode to level.

[jovial kite]

Dead chnl

[dire spoke]

dd gm

[jovial kite]

dd spc

[shrewd night]

dd zempai

[hard stirrup]

Someone mind looking at my logs and yelling at me https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JTcMYC7rd1Ktb9Bz#fight=5&type=damage-done&source=9

[strange python]

[viscid helm]

What do u want me to yell

[vivid bone]

compliments and friendly things

[hard stirrup]

i don't know some areas for improvements

[vivid bone]

Your fellow raid members could use more improvement

[hard stirrup]

that is not in my power so i want to focus on me 😃

[vivid bone]

Well, I'd say you're doing ok considering

From first glance ofc

[shrewd night]

i don't know some areas for improvements

Kill time

ie your fellow buddies stepping up

[vivid bone]

That's what I said right

[shrewd night]

Thats like what, 1,5 minute longer than what regular people spend on garothi

[vivid bone]

He's correct though, he can't really improve that by himself

Silly @shrewd night

[shrewd night]

gquit

😂

[vivid bone]

Kill time has a really big impact on performance though Braxor

[hard stirrup]

yeah some tips for high command maybe i feel like i'm just running around like a headless chicken there

[vivid bone]

Your garrote uptime isn't 90+%

🤷

[hard stirrup]

is it worth garroting the cannon?

[vivid bone]

Not sure

I'm not raiding that hardcore, but that's just something I noticed in your log 😛

also 4 FoK's, not sure why on Garothi, I never done mythic or w/e so not sure if there are adds

[shrewd night]

wut

Hashi

pls

[stark heart]

adds on Garothi btw

[shrewd night]

OPTIMALLY right, garrote should be applied before phase and cannons killed before it runs out

And FoKing cannons is 👌

[vivid bone]

aight

You heard it from people that are better than me 😄

[hard stirrup]

ok gonna look out for that next time^^

[shrewd night]

Rank 65 on garothi ayyyy

[hard stirrup]

appreciate any feedback

[viscid helm]

Who foks cannon

[vivid bone]

Well, not me clearly

but I'm a noob anyways

[hard stirrup]

if the green lines are below them?

or would you rather pool?

[stark heart]

you can hit them from anywhere

[shrewd night]

You could stand halfway to africa to the sides and still hit them

Hitbox is hyoge

[stark heart]

green lines don't really prevent you from damaging them

[wise frigate]

Yuge

[vivid bone]

my best parse on garothi (heroic)

😄

[hard stirrup]

ok i'll attack them normally then next time

[viscid helm]

Yikes

[stark heart]

[shrewd night]

shameless brag

[vivid bone]

that was in January, didn't really raid after that 😛

Nice !

[viscid helm]

Self promotion isnt allowed

Btw

[shrewd night]

Its my alter ego

So it isnt self promotion

[vivid bone]

I wouldn't call mine promotion tbh

[shrewd night]

[safe matrix]

also poison bomb is a thing

Some parses can't be trusted

[shrewd night]

9% bomb tho

But yes most can't be trustes

[vivid bone]

that's pretty mediocre

[prime void]

I'd say most parses cant be trusted lol

Sin rogue parsing is just asinine

[safe matrix]

Yeah but plausible deniability

I don't say nuffin definite

[prime void]

I can definitely say sin parsing is dumb XD

[safe matrix]

Funnily enough in BfA sin doesn't have much rng

It goes from a fiesta to alright

[prime void]

Won't be a rogue anymore

so rip

😛

[safe matrix]

Demon hunter?

[prime void]

mhm

[safe matrix]

I was heavily considering hunter

Mage and Druid seem meh

[prime void]

I enjoy melee perspective too much to go ranged

[safe matrix]

Haven't looked at monk

[prime void]

monk is zzzz

[vivid bone]

Survival hunter!

[safe matrix]

fuck no

[vivid bone]

I hear it's tons of fun in BfA

[safe matrix]

If I play hunter I wanna ignore all the melee mechanics

[viscid helm]

DH

[prime void]

Every class is

[shrewd night]

Playing surv for the melee but being forced to go ranged after tuning

[steep obsidian]

Finding good melee raiders is easy if you want to play surv it better be viable and u better be amazing at it

No guilds really want a melee hunter

[vivid bone]

Well that's now

Maybe that'll change

[steep obsidian]

No it’s how it will be in bfa too

[wise frigate]

Game chat from that amazing 23 Seat with Stupid Mistakes and Parse Culture.

[shrewd night]

Can you even imagine the outcry if surv is so out of touch that ranged fanatics has to go for it?

[vivid bone]

Wow, I didn't know you could predict the future Sabod 😛

[steep obsidian]

Unless it’s monk level op it won’t be popular

read what I said again

[vivid bone]

I did

now what

Doesn't have to be popular to be viable

[steep obsidian]

You don’t get it?

[vivid bone]

Clearly

[steep obsidian]

Ok I guess one of us is just dumb then

[vivid bone]

ELI5

Wow, harsh

[shrewd night]

I mean

It seems pretty easy to understand to me

Like, unless surv has some required utility, or extraordinary levels of dps you probably wont see many of them because as he said - melee are a dime a dozen

[vivid bone]

And I said, maybe things will change in BfA

but nooooo

it will stay exactly the same

right

[shrewd night]

The only thing that will change now is numbers. Meaning you can already tell if they got utility or not

🤷

[prime void]

surv doesnt possess anything that another melee cant do better

hence the low representation

plus surv being extremelly punishing and more difficult than all other melee

[vivid bone]

If that's still the case in BfA, then I agree

[shrewd night]

[prime void]

I mean what did they gain in BFA that changed?

Their utility is still shit

still a convoluted spec

[vivid bone]

Oh well, let's see.

[shrewd night]

🍿

[vivid bone]

Still gonna play one though

[prime void]

and that's fine

No one is telling you what you can and can't play

[vivid bone]

And in heroic it doesn't matter anyways

[prime void]

atleast that's what I thought

[vivid bone]

everything is viable

[prime void]

No shit

Its heroic

a group of mentally downy monkies can clear heroic

[stark heart]

[shrewd night]

[prime void]

a group of downy monkies can clear mythic eventually

viability isnt important unless we're legit talking top 10 top 20

in which you wont see surv lol

unless somehow it gets over-tuned to ridiculous proportions

[safe matrix]

Mizu, maybe tidy that up friend

[prime void]

im on like

a 40 hour bender my man

not tidying up shit

[shrewd night]

Tbh, keep posting. datass.jpg

[prime void]

right ?

I bring hapiness to all.

This 20 page paper on cuban exceptionalism is lit.

[safe matrix]

I think you're exceptional tbh

[prime void]

I'm not banned

That shows some exceptionalism eh?

[safe matrix]

Yet

monkaS

[prime void]

Thanks for the support captn

[safe matrix]

If I'm the captain

That makes you the captom

[prime void]

I'm just a rando scallywag

[shrewd night]

[safe matrix]

Fuck

I could've made a "cubanned" joke

But I didn't ._.

[shrewd night]

[safe matrix]

Accurate

[prime void]

I legit have combed through about 40 hours worth of sources at this point

and still dont have all the info I want

[safe matrix]

That sucks

I'm on vacation right now

[prime void]

I'm jealous- That's for sure

[stark heart]

👉 #off-topic

[safe matrix]

Meh

[shrewd night]

Bank holiday on thursday

Tempted to take friday off

[safe matrix]

We don't have that in Canada I think

[shrewd night]

I think the proper term for this situation

is

'suck it'

[viscid helm]

Same, thursday off

[safe matrix]

We have the 21st off

[viscid helm]

Friday work

[shrewd night]

I have the 17th off too

[prime void]

What is Bank holiday?

[shrewd night]

So that means two long weekends if I dare do it

[safe matrix]

It's basically a stat

But they call it weird

[shrewd night]

May is such a scuffed months for us

Three long weekends in a row

[safe matrix]

Statutory holidays

[shrewd night]

[jovial kite]

Thiursday and friday off 🖕

[viscid helm]

5 weeks off "soon"

[safe matrix]

So never?

[shrewd night]

5 weeks off, or 5 weeks 'off'

[jovial kite]

Parkbeer inc

aka pussikalja

[shrewd night]

KESKIVIIKO

Sounds like fucking swearwords

[jovial kite]

its littlefriday

Dont diss the bae

[prime void]

what is this

celcius shit

Me no comprendo

[safe matrix]

Yeah, not using the superior kelvin in 2018

[jovial kite]

no wonder ur 3rd world

[viscid helm]

Terassi

[jovial kite]

Yeah flowi

All day

Going to löyly in hernesaari

[shrewd night]

[safe matrix]

That sounded dirty

[jovial kite]

Yes

[viscid helm]

Ohh u mean the one that was build few years ago

[jovial kite]

yeh

they have an awesome roof terrace

[viscid helm]

Ye

[shrewd night]

Look dad, they even have 4g over there

[jovial kite]

With lazyboy beanbags

[safe matrix]

So it's like a restaurant?

[jovial kite]

You can drink smoke and chill in ur lazyboy while soaking up the sun

Yeah

And a sauna

And a bar

[shrewd night]

What building doesnt have a sauna

[safe matrix]

Sounds nice

Mine ._.

[jovial kite]

[safe matrix]

Tbh saunas are weird though

I'd rather be in a hottub

[jovial kite]

youre weird

[shrewd night]

Comparing a hot tub to a sauna

[safe matrix]

Although all forms of public pools are fucking gross

They're like the same concept

[jovial kite]

pool ???

[shrewd night]

wat

[jovial kite]

Helo??

[safe matrix]

Hello???

[shrewd night]

How are they even remotely connected

[viscid helm]

Dats no pool

[jovial kite]

Do you even fucking pefletti my dude

[shrewd night]

Sauna = Sweatshack. Hot tub = pool

??????

[safe matrix]

Hot tubs and saunas are both teeming with bacteria and other gross shit

And actual shit

[jovial kite]

[shrewd night]

Are you high my dude

[safe matrix]

Bruh I used to love that shit

[shrewd night]

Love what

The saunapool?

[safe matrix]

Listen up motherfucker

They're right beside eachother

Literally every time I every went to a public pool

[prime void]

I wish I was high my dude

[safe matrix]

And they do basically the same thing

[prime void]

Thats all I took out of this passed conversation

[shrewd night]

please elaborate

How does a sweatshack do the same as a pool

[jovial kite]

you are being racist towards finns

[safe matrix]

They're there to warm you up

The only difference is how humid it is

[shrewd night]

Uuuuuuuuh

[jovial kite]

???

[safe matrix]

Because in a sauna it's steam

And hottub it's water

[shrewd night]

Im internally giggling at the 'they are both there to warm you up'

[safe matrix]

Yeah

Like your mom

But we weren't talking about that

[jovial kite]

Wow

toxins

Get this 3rd world racist sub outta here

[safe matrix]

Ur being racist towards subs

[shrewd night]

You know what

Its time

its yaboi

[jovial kite]

I mean basically what you said is sub = outlaw

They are both filled with shit

And are there to make damage

[wise frigate]

So much tonight.

Why can't we all just have a massive RH orgy and have fun?

[jovial kite]

let me in peace

[shrewd night]

Remember to remind your kids to not shit in the sauna

Id hate to have to get that out of the water

[jovial kite]

[upper oyster]

Question what's the lowest % of haste you can go for

[shrewd night]

3% I think

[marble hemlock]

depends on the gear youre wearing, but its around 3-4.5%

[upper oyster]

What's the most optimal then xd

[brisk forge]

3%

[candid jasper]

Why that specific haste amount? 😃

[upper oyster]

having like 15% feels like really low

[marble hemlock]

again, depends on the gear youre wearing

[brisk forge]

Lol not as assa

[marble hemlock]

if youre running legendary boots, youll most likely have at least 3% haste already

[brisk forge]

AIM for less then 0 bascially xD

[safe matrix]

Because haste doesn't really do anything, ideally you want 0% haste but the two legendaries both have it 🤷

[upper oyster]

Well it's first time playin assa since cata

I just feel like as if I am in GCD

for 3 seconds

[marble hemlock]

youll be having some haste from legendaries, and maybe some more from t-pieces if youre wearing t21 gloves, every other item youre wearing should not have haste however

[upper oyster]

just standin autoing

[shrewd night]

Trueshadow - Today at 11:53 AM
having like 15% feels like really low

Wew

lad

[jovial kite]

@shrewd night

Top 3 meme

[marble hemlock]

haste is, by far, the worst stat you can have on an item

[upper oyster]

I just feel it doesn't have that much Energy

[shrewd night]

Energy comes from crit, not haste

[upper oyster]

Ah, well like said i'm a noobie when it comes to assa

Feels like 3 abilites

[marble hemlock]

haste only increases your passive energy-regen, barely

[upper oyster]

So I should go for Mastery >Crit

[marble hemlock]

read the t21 4pc bonus and youll realize why crit is a better energy-regen stat

yup

[upper oyster]

Or Mastery >Ver>Crit

[marble hemlock]

id suggest you take a look at the guide posted in the pins in this discord-channel

[shrewd night]

Bruh

Guide

Top bar

Go

[marble hemlock]

mastery>crit

[jovial kite]

id suggest also not taking a shit in the sauna

[shrewd night]

Then Id have to blow my whistle

[jovial kite]

would hate it if the dookie floats on the surface

atleast it would be warm

[safe matrix]

Does that mean you wouldn't hate it if it sank?

[shrewd night]

Id have to close down the sauna

Empty it

Clean it and sanitize it

Then fill it back up

So please dont shit in the sauna

[safe matrix]

Do you think that's what public pools do?

They fish it out with a net and add an extra dose of sanitizers

[viscid helm]

Maybe in the 3rd world country u live in

[safe matrix]

I don't need to go to pools, I just get to enjoy our natural lakes

[marble hemlock]

watching double boomy+wl do seat

is making me feel inadequate

6mil dps on 2nd boss ><

[solar willow]

what's the difference in my opener if i do kingsbane before toxic blades

[jovial kite]

its not optimal

Nothing more i guess

[solar willow]

is it just because of the cd difference

[jovial kite]

i mean

If you do kb before tb

You delay tb for until kb has 9 sec remaining

Then you vanish at 5 sec remaining

otherwise it makes no sense

this lines up ur next kb with tb too

but youll lose this lining for the next tb anyway

[solar willow]

it's the 3rd set of kb tb that line up right

[jovial kite]

3rd one doesnt line up

2nd will

eg. Pyllerox has been seen on stream using this opener

but hes also known of doing whatever the fuck he wants

And the currently best simming opener is tb kb

theres arguably some merit for this opener in m argus

But i wouldnt use it still 😄

[solar willow]

is it 9 sec remaining or 8?

i mean i've been doing tb on 8 remaining

[jovial kite]

8.9 if you want to be sure last kb tick is within tb

[echo estuary]

well, by the looks of it slackjack does whatever the fuck he wants, too. hence he's getting away with playing bleed xD

[jovial kite]

🤷 idd

[echo estuary]

so tldr do whatever you want gaara

(y)

[solar willow]

well guide clearly says 8

and you say 8.9

who do i go with here

[shrewd night]

Do what you want then

Like. Do you trust stranger 1 or stranger 2

Hmmmmm

[jovial kite]

Doesnt matter as long as last kb tick is within tb

[echo estuary]

oO 'sauna lifeguard' -- thats a nifty little name

[solar willow]

fair enough

[jovial kite]

Its a top 3 meme perelman

[shrewd night]

Don't shit in the sauna perelman

Can't have a sauna without a lifeguard

[echo estuary]

toast to that

although, it sounds a bit fake lifeguard-esque

could easily have it's own hornpub category with all the implicit connotations

[shrewd night]

What do you mean, making sure kids doesnt drown is hard work

[jovial kite]

yeah

Saunas get flooded these days

And also full of shit

[echo estuary]

i just foresee a beautiful woman needing saving due to overheat in sauna

[jovial kite]

Thats why we need heroes like @shrewd night

Its the shit and water that kills

[shrewd night]

When knees are weak and palms are sweaty,
Thats when Sauna Lifeguards are there to get rid of the shit spaghetti

[echo estuary]

i just cannot resist my inquisitive drive, what is this meme you speak of? any footage?

[shrewd night]

Slagg can explain while I go save this damsel in mistress in the sauna

[jovial kite]

liavre said sauna and hot tub and pools are the same thing

[echo estuary]

very compassionable Sauna Lifeguard

[jovial kite]

All of them are moist and keep you warm according to liavre

And also everyone shits in all 3 of them

which is pretty lulworthy

so since this shit and flood attack on saunas began

mizerok is here to save us

[echo estuary]

oh wow

[jovial kite]

Tfw taking a nice deep shit in sauna and hottub

[echo estuary]

i guess its okay if everyone does it

[shrewd night]

Ill break the ankles of anyone making my workday harder

[echo estuary]

the power of conformity, you know

liavre setting the 'meta' irl how nice for him

so the moral of the story -- don't take liavre to naantali

[jovial kite]

[solar willow]

i had another gray area.. what's the difference in using a finisher before kb or right after?

is it just that 1 gcd that surge is not applied to target or what

[jovial kite]

optimally you should kb within env and sot

In reality not a difference

as if you kb env

The first tick will not have been ticked

but you lose the initial dmg buffed

which isnt that big of a deal but meh.. minmax is minmax

[solar willow]

i mean a scenario would be.. i have to renew rupture but i have kb ready too, sot is about to fall off, i need to use finisher as rupture to renew both rupture and sot. Do i use kb too or do i delay to use with env

[stark heart]

I tend to give KB quite a low prio so I would just use KB as cp generator

you shouldn't really bother with SoT unless it's last ticks of KB

maximize tier uptime

[viscid helm]

Clearly to complicated ability

Better remove it

[shrewd night]

Better put it on the gcd

[steep obsidian]

i actually hope they add it back

[stark heart]

KB is already on GCD

[steep obsidian]

the spec feels boring rn

[stark heart]

[steep obsidian]

i think he was being sarcastic

[echo estuary]

flowi is very excited about BfA i hear

[atomic grotto]

he will main outlaw

[vestal wren]

outlaw does look quite decent (with snd)

[atomic grotto]

i still dont understand why they dont remove rtb, pb and all the heavy rng stuff

slackjack sensei

[jovial kite]

Because we should be nicer to todd

[inland wyvern]

are there any suggested talent tree for beta assass atm?

trying out a rogue atm

[atomic grotto]

fuck blindside

i mean

....

:3

its beta bro try out different combinations

[inland wyvern]

😄

[warm parcel]

Tfw taking a nice deep shit in sauna and hottub
@jovial kite

Hello

Explain yourself

[shrewd night]

deep shits in saunas are the spawn of satan

[jovial kite]

basically

liavre said

that saunas = pools = hot tubs

and people shit in all three of them

thats why he hates them

[jovial kite]

@warm parcel

[keen inlet]

#off-topic

🚪

!mute @supple mesa 1d We don't call people "retards" here.

[spare cloud]

bot doesnt work

unlucky

[keen inlet]

It does

It just DMs us now

[spare cloud]

good I'm immune

[jovial kite]

@spare cloud

[spare cloud]

ded channel

ded class

[keen inlet]

Where is that from, Tizzy

[jovial kite]

[spare cloud]

Got it 🤷

[sullen mountain]

I didnt know it was going to be unobtainable

I would have started trying to do that months ago

I can't believe the ensemble box you get from it is TRADEABLE

there was a guy selling one on US-Stormrage for 1M

[fiery nest]

Wat

[sullen mountain]

I was talking about the 'the chosen' title and rewards

[hoary copper]

That was....random

[sullen mountain]

i deleted it because i realized it had nothing to do with this channel lol

[keen inlet]

LOL

Which monk spec is ded

that's off-topic but I'm curious

[viscid helm]

ww ded bfa

[keen inlet]

WW feels great, low throughput in BFA

they'll tune that up

or not

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hoary copper]

MW dedspec

[strange python]

Monk dedspec

[sullen mountain]

[fervent beacon]

ded spec, rerollin hunter

[hoary copper]

Survival, go throw your eagles

[inland wyvern]

assassin seems nice on beta (then again first time im trying rogue)

[trail heron]

hmm. time to set up an assassination hotbar and pick the build.

[viscid helm]

its garbage

[trail heron]

hmm. bleed or poison.....

[wary reef]

Why not both?

[hoary copper]

Poison is generally easier to gear for on live as bleed has some specific things that make it good

[steep obsidian]

bleed pretty much requires boots and 3 ma to be really good

coz you can sync vend + xsang

[keen inlet]

tbf, Flowi thinks everything is garbage

There's literally not a single playable spec in the unplayable game, literally

That's Flowi maths 101

[hoary copper]

Except Alacrity, it's number 1

[keen inlet]

[supple hearth]

I miss not pessimistic flowi

[manic vigil]

It was an illusion giggle

[trail heron]

An Illusion? What are you hiding.....

[zealous dew]

this beta intro scenario is just horrible

[regal cape]

Idk I liked watching Thrall beam down Deathwing several times

It really gives perspective to what was happening behind the scenes while this was all occurring

[sullen mountain]

wow S P O I L E R S

[shrewd plover]

HEllo here. I've got a question ! I need to find a Gdoc for Relic shield . Did you have this or not ?

[manic vigil]

[sullen mountain]

check the pins

theres some docs in there

[shrewd plover]

Yes but i search something like that i have for SP https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m5K1N1e1vftzP-7bM734MtWjNwcSKmPFa5l3mB6q3SI/edit#gid=1063390599

[hoary copper]

herodamage.com/rogue has general relic comparisons but sim is always the answer

[sullen mountain]

i use bloodyrelics

https://bloodmallet.github.io/relics.html

[shrewd plover]

ok tks ! i try my best so ^^

Tks

[hoary copper]

only bad thing with that is if you're bleed

[sullen mountain]

yeah the Ravenholdt one has stuff too

[nova snow]

question

do I have too much vers?

[hoary copper]

Idk what do your sims say? if your sims weights are high than no, if its bottom than probably. Just looking at it, it looks ok. to me

[open notch]

[nimble tartan]

ROGUE OMEGALUL

[vale carbon]

hey, can you guys explain me why my poisonbomb did not procc once on a 4 min fight?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JnNfKjQxXtkcmwCH/#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=24

[warm parcel]

Well

Roll of the dice

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vale carbon]

fun specc

xd

[stark heart]

only 54 finishers pfff

[strange python]

hey for aoe if i have insignia do i just use mutilate or continue using fok?

[warm parcel]

3+

fok

[strange python]

gotcha. thank you

[haughty beacon]

Is it spoiler to ask how blindside is fairing on beta?

[stark heart]

#tc-research

well it's not really a talent comparison but would give you an idea how "good" it is

[nimble tartan]

i wonder what the record is on a logged fight of NO pb proc

like how many finishers who has the highest record

[dusty hull]

why is it called sin rogue and not ass rogue ?

[jade sail]

because sin is more edgy than ass

[sullen mountain]

its called Sin by the try hards and assa by the pvpers

[dusty hull]

i take it, thanks

[lucid frigate]

anyone played boots and all MA relics? i'm wondering how long the cooldown would be

[plain thistle]

close to 45s

thats why you want that combo with exsanguinate 😄

[hoary copper]

Its used for blood pretty much

[nimble tartan]

I call it ass rogue cause the spec is ASS

[hoary copper]

It was ass rogue because we used to have to do it from behind, now its sin because it's not a requirement

[mighty star]

Will bleed build return?

[spare cloud]

Bleed build is gone?

[vapid moth]

Bleed build was never a thing

It was all a dream

A figment of your imagination

[spare cloud]

@jovial kite

What do you think about that

[mighty star]

I mean return to prominence

It's useable now, even better depending on gear, but you need very specific gear setups for it to be better

[spare cloud]

too early in beta to say

[mighty star]

rip

[jovial kite]

i say

[spare cloud]

Rip slagg

when bleed will be gone slagg will fade away too

[jovial kite]

on the third day

look to the west

at dawn

i will make my return

vanish

[spare cloud]

jesus?

[jovial kite]

NO gandalf

[spare cloud]

triggered

[jovial kite]

jesus

[vapid moth]

What's jesus

[jovial kite]

its a cannibal that lets his friends eat his meat and drink his blood

apparently hes a zombie too

and ethereal

[vapid moth]

Jesus sounds lit bruh

[jovial kite]

yeah man satanism is the shit

[vapid moth]

May the devil claim my soul

[smoky tulip]

11/11M feels good fams. World 869 rofl!

[jovial kite]

grats!

[smoky tulip]

Thank you. 4 weeks of wiping, 321 wipes

Argus mythic is legit

Happened 9 hours ago and I’m still reeling

[stark heart]

gratz

[hoary copper]

My first reaction to that quote @jovial kite was Elphaba from Wicked
"So if you care to find me
Look to the western sky!
As someone told me lately,
"Everyone deserves the chance to fly!"

[jovial kite]

gondolph

[hoary copper]

Elphaba > Gandolf

[jovial kite]

never heard of this barbapapa

so how can he be better than gandalf

[hoary copper]

Uncivilized swine!

Elphaba is from Wicked the musical aka the wicked witch of the west

[jovial kite]

aint got nothing on my boy ganjalf

did elhabib fight a balrog?

i think not

[hoary copper]

She fought a wizard and turned her bf into a scarecrow

spoilers btw

[jovial kite]

sounds like a complete bitch

[hoary copper]

That's why she's wonderful

[jovial kite]

my boy grandalf has hobbit friends

[hoary copper]

Oh good smelly little people with furry feet and eat a million times a day. Your boy gandalf is friends with Tom

waiting for the offtopic boot to come

[spare cloud]

Bullying banned people

[hoary copper]

cant be bullied if they dont know it

🤔

[spare cloud]

Yes

[manic vigil]

nice assa talk btw

[spare cloud]

Uni why are you here

[manic vigil]

that is a deep question

I do not know the answer

[spare cloud]

u potato

[manic vigil]

not a fan of potatoes

and I'm also not a fan of myself - so that would speak for your assessment

[supple hearth]

I'm a fan of knives

[marble hemlock]

im a toxic blade?

[manic vigil]

[marble hemlock]

[spare cloud]

I'm bad

[manic vigil]

you certainly are a bad boi

[echo estuary]

TOPH got a new girl, again

seems like only me, seliathan and don never change avatars

[safe matrix]

I mean

My basis is consistent

I just changed to become ANGERY

to reflect my inner turmoil

[spare cloud]

I need a new gif

I'm looking for a cute one rn

maybe a new girl this time

and not red velvet/iu

[echo estuary]

isnt the current one cute?

[spare cloud]

I found something

[dire spoke]

T W I C E

[spare cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mujSFwG6fR4

[wise frigate]

Excuse you, Russian man. I haven't changed profile pics in like 2 years.

[plain thistle]

@spare cloud we can tag you again? thats nice

hmm, thats not #off-topic

[violet elm]

Why is bfa beta assa so trash?

And stale

[civic palm]

Do you want the actual answer? or one you will agree with?

[violet elm]

Isnt it the same?

[civic palm]

Can be.

The actual answer being;

[plain thistle]

🤔

[civic palm]

It's the beginning of an expansion that seems to be designed as a bit of a reset after the flooding of abilities and traits we got in Legion.

Turns out it was way more than just 1 extra button.

The anti-Blizzard circle-jerk answer being;

They don't know WTF they are doing, even 10 years into making their game.

SENSELESS PRUNING

Buncha people gonna see the destruction of our weapons as some kind of last-minute mcguffin just put in there to strip you of your endless power even though it was planned like this from before Legion release.

[violet elm]

Idk ehy thez removed kb.. no more min maxing

[civic palm]

There's more min-maxing now.

[violet elm]

What will sperate a good from a meh assa rog now

[civic palm]

Because there's less to fuck up and still get a good outcome.

[violet elm]

Before it was timing tb on kb etc

[civic palm]

There's less of a bullshit buffer from PBOMB making shitters feel good.

[violet elm]

Now just press everything on cd

[civic palm]

Nah you previously just pressed TBonCD, just do it.

[hazy iron]

Timing tb on kb lol

[civic palm]

You will average 2 ENV during its' uptime and you will be more than fine.

[hazy iron]

Say good bye to all those missed tb casts

[civic palm]

You didn't time TB with KB at all, hit TB before KB if it's up before, TB at the end of KB if it comes up during.

[violet elm]

No

[hazy iron]

Yeah i know

[civic palm]

I know you know :3

[violet elm]

You time it if within 6 sec

[civic palm]

8 seconds but sure.

[violet elm]

You can fit it into the remaining 9secs of kingsbane

[hazy iron]

Yeah thats not hard though

[civic palm]

KB ticks every 8 seconds, TB lasts 9 seconds, cover the last 8 seconds.

EZPZ

[violet elm]

Wwell also you would pool

[civic palm]

Not hard.

[violet elm]

Pool before kingbane

[civic palm]

Hell you can just hit TB in KB whenever you want and you will be fine.

The buffer of PBOMB was there.

You have no shitty safety net now.

[violet elm]

Keep the env biff up and the finisher buff up@

[civic palm]

or just do as the APL does and spam your heart out.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hazy iron]

These things arent hard to do), the people not doing them arent raiding at a level where it matters

[violet elm]

I mean with all that gone

If that wasent hard

What eill bfa be

[civic palm]

SIN was already a potato to play, but without its' giant safety net your damage is gonna be doodoo if you are doing the basics wrong.

[violet elm]

A complete joke

[civic palm]

atm with the lax NRG generation you do not have time for anything.

[hazy iron]

Theres an entire expac worth of progression... that no one has played

[civic palm]

and the AA traits at the moment are all +DMG.

and not resources.

[hazy iron]

Who knows what will happen, but the start of any expac feels crap so theres no point complaining

[civic palm]

We've not seen any Raiding AA traits ye?

[hazy iron]

I dont think so

[civic palm]

People with respect made a huge joke out of us getting +1 NRG from T21 4p.

Turns out they were fucking wrong and that 1 NRG changed everything.

I haven't seen the Survival Hunter Throw Axe (I think) put into the game proper yet.

The one that makes it a boomerang.

Boomerang w/ a lot of added damage even.

[violet elm]

Tbh im thinking about moving over to my feral

[civic palm]

Plenty of time to test.

They're basically the same as they are now IIRC.

But your stats are gonna be awful.

[violet elm]

Yea thats why ☺️

[civic palm]

Characters Copies please > _>

atm Assassination seems fine ST.

A little dull, but w/e.

[dire spoke]

miz

[civic palm]

👋

[dire spoke]

[civic palm]

😊

🗡

[dire spoke]

[civic palm]

ha

[stuck peak]

hatchet toss isnt a skill in beta anymore

hasnt been in any of the bfa builds

[strange python]

assasination room on point

[stuck peak]

its just a datamined azerite trait that was never put in the game

[civic palm]

Never means the game is done, which isn't the case.

[stuck peak]

it was in the first batch of azerite traits

[void pecan]

Us ass boys are always on topic

and having a good time