#assassination
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Why flowi so troll
@viscid helm You're meant to blindly stack mastery and make sure your crit is exactly 35% jesus
Life was better when flowi was gone
Who are you
be careful or you get TOMd
Tom is a real man
Flowi angry at the world - it's a natural reaction
Not afraid to be censored
i didn't think i'd have to type that
@prime void Please, you're hurting my feelings โ
flowi working on his haste versa setup
for the outlaw swap
Jajajajaja
All Tom did was complain tothe mods not to ban him in DM's
@strange python You Romping Animal
Then everyone blocked him
yikes
and get triggered by some grills questions about weak auras LUL
Yeah but at least Tom wasn't a little bitch

K
And that something is....?
right now im using this relic
nice
i think its pretty bitchlike to burn ur mates when you get banned by dminh mods that hey x did the same thing and worse ๐คฃ
One hell of a resolution you got there
L:
Sim comparison
and get them banned toi
What kind of screensize is that?
raidbots -> relic compare -> ingame /simc -> paste that shit in there -> fill in your new relic path that would be possible -> see which sims higher @strange python
and repair your gear, thats triggering
could be just low resolution combined with large hud/ui scaling
Yeah confirmed in DM
I like the guys name to the right on the 2nd screenshot
Blind and Glaives not bound ๐ฆ

that was the most random windows update
Microsoft pls
I pay to not have to deal with this
By having Pro or Enterprise you are supposed to able to live without forced shutdowns for windows update as you can either schedule them yourself or postpone them.
Scammed
well i suppose once in a while you will have to shutdown or restart your PC regardless
Yawn
Sure, but without enterprise or pro windows decides when to shut down.
Doesnt matter if youre in a raid or not

had that happen to one of our raiders during aggramar progression
One requirement for my guild is windows pro
Shoulders arent always going to sim highest
I mean generally speaking
Generally speaking you'll have legendaries that are to your highest sim, so you'll want the tier pieces that work around that
If thats more than 4 pieces, you can look at alternate off pieces from M+ or bosses within Antorus
That have better stat optimisation
Lmao, expecting another answer?
?
You answered a different question
I want to know what people wear more of the time than anything else
??
On a standard fight
It depends on your own weights
You use shoulders/bracers most of the time
Like, MOST people might wear head/shoulders for example, but that will be absolutely dumb for you
Rofl
Sim your own weights, sim your own gear options and the rest is common sense
Fuckwits?
Fuckwits who knows what they are talking about ๐ค
When you're asking a question like that?
?
Ironic
@gaunt moat pls
Is this forum not for asking questions?
Guys why are you even trying to explain?
And you were given a correct answer
Yes, and you got your answering.
It wasn't a correct answer
YOLO 420 SIM IT
Wear what most of Assa rogues wear
@strange python According to who? Are you high?
if you dont sim yourself you are a mongo tbh
Then you know your answer 
you can sim stuff you dont have...
You dont need the gear to sim it?
Asking a beyond basic question and we're retards
Okay mate
Bye

Hey guys, I want to plan my bonus rolls for the legendary Im getting in four months
But that isnt right

๐ค
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it's one of my fetishes to dumpster people that come into class discords asking sim-related questions when they wont sim it themselves
Does the pandemic point of envenom differ between a 4cp and a 5 cp envenom?
@strange python Hi, i understand you're new here. please try to be polite to other people.
bare in mind, while we encourage asking questions and helping other people. you can not demand help (or, more precisely, the kind of help you want)
I wasn't demanding help
I was asking a "basic" question
and this guy just absolutely shits on m
Rudest mother fucker
The tier pieces you need are based around the legendaries you use (which you're going to sim)
There is no XYZ use this. Its based on your own weights
Are you fucking delusional?
Shut your mouth rofl
be polite
this motherfucker
You've said enough
Learn to read
Learn to get a life
wohwohwoh calm down
I bet you work at McDonalds
dont make me mute you guys
Did you get home early today?
!warn @strange python don't insult other people
Alright, @strange python has been warned because 'don't insult other people'.
yellow card
?
So because he's got a fancy green name
๐ค
He doesn't get a warning?
For whatz?
You're actually unbelievable
green names aren't fancy. if you want i can make your name green
๐คฃ
Quote me?
He literally was a dick from the second he typed anything
You were given a factual answer
And you're refusing it
There is no other answer to it
Who puts a photo of them doing some gay smoulder in their discord pic rofl
You'll lose your virginity one day
Bye
^
!tempmute @strange python 1h
Dysent#6293 (334629087450628100) is muted for 1 hour because of 'Unspecified.', boss.
can you make my name light gold or bright yellow @gaunt moat
Wew
baby pls
That was some quality shit right there
What a pleasant discussion to walk into this morning
god damnit all the drama happened while we were mid pull
Ima take the time while youre muted to explain how this works, Dysent
If you are given an answer, which are corraborated by multiple regulars, the next step is not to insult them or refuse it as inaccurate. If you want to learn, listen take it to heart. And maybe, just maybe you will improve.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
And all that.

pls, someone else than richard talk
Yeah im clueless sorry
Also, raidbots.com for when you decide you want to simulate your character.
I know when people tell you to sim your character it's probably not the answer you want and we seem asinine, but it's just accurate. Giving you a best in slot list would be disingenuous.
Why did the discussion end, it was a pleasant and entertaining read
Someone please remind me when 55 minutes has passed, I need to prepare popcorn
It's not even that, it's just that it's not accurate.
Setups will always vary from player to player
So instead of blinding using XYZ because "Everyone else does"
Isn't going to help you
So simming your own weights, for your own answer is the answer
but what if I dont want to do any work myself 
well, i tried talking with him in DMs
Yeah im done Notter
he's unapproachable
I wouldnt have been upset if you'd thrown a mute my way either.
Idd, you plagiarized a guide instead of giving it credit/referring to it kappa
i don't think you were out of line
if someone is hostile towards you
Was genuine advice, spat back at me
Cba being nice about shit like that
Wasted time
Did i miss another millenial get butthurt for not being spoonfed like he's used to?
He left the server so whatever fam
thats what happens if you give out participation and 8th place trophies guys
ppl feeling entitled for stuff they did do shit for
i tried
come up behind him
KEK
and carrote him
Didnt offer him enough hugs and kisses clearly
Sit on my lap and daddy will help you type in your character name in raidbots.
i want to be green too , without the banning thingi of course LUL
you got it
Poggers
its a package deal
"fancy green" we call it round' here
historically speaking greens have a higher hcance of ending up with permabans
u get green

๐ฎ time to go i guess
lmao
Way to treat a new rogue asking a question
Good job
No wonder this discord has a toxic rep```
dindu.
nuttin
"you guys are so toxic" literally says fuckwit to the first person that tries to help him LUL
Can someone else answer my question please
I want something that requires less effort
I hope so ๐ฆ
at mcdonalds in the break room
wew lad
I really hope you don't, if you do you wont be able to answer my questions anymore
most people we help are thankful, dunno what was the deal here
If you're going to make the effort to ask the question, how an you not have any preparation for an answer
obv you had to help him and send him a pic of you balls deep in a girl
so youre a valuable source of information
and not some fuckwit
oh but yeah checked my own sim from b4 and when the fight is 3 min ish legendary shoulders sim higher than the other gear from b4 so the gear is prolly more for argus since its a ass long fight
<- Only plays rogue as an alt but would like Green name plz
no need for a reason, usually we got a bot that does it, but it's been down for a while now :x
so feel free to ask
Why was my process of getting the color long and painful
Because they ran out of intricate palette duh
"Poor leadership leads to a poor commubity"
Somethingg tells me this guy, if given a leadership position, falls pray to dunning-kruger
What does the pink color represent
Shut up Slagg, you probably work at McDonalds ๐ก
shut your garbage puffed ass up yo
wew
just sim it in frier
Do i need to link pokepedia again
thats literally what koffings are
Garbage filled
RACIST.
Tom needs an urgent return
you sure are obsessed with him
Tom's gone for good
Im wondering why perelman hasnt joined the other server
He was the only one showing off abs
Not toxic enough
Lowkey toxic
i can you you mine ๐
TOPH what other server?!
I guess i need blue hair and athletic body, that seems to be cool apparently. Also soy amongst men has gained traction lately
is saber like in bad terms with the discord here or sth? ๐ฎ
its a reason saber got permad after a short duration as sblade
Its ok i'll just wait for the prodigal son to return, he'll show up here eventually

I hope he doesnt
don't keep your hopes up
oh fuck , when i was searching for a guild i applied for sabers guild bc someone mentioned sth and they had a option to say how you found them and i filled in "saber from the ravenholdt discord"
oopsie
No
@spare cloud I love u
I love u too
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disGUSting
not at all
only guys love is true love
Oh i need to catch up on suits

you never know if youre not gay unless you atleast sucked 1 dick ๐ค
Youre a furry
Suits 
Its okay though we tolerate everything on this discord
Went to shit long time ago
is 33% crit 178% mastery 11% versatility a good place to be?
seems fine
nice, think if i want higher mastery percentage now i just have to get higher ilvl of the same gear
just make sure to sim and see what works best
Didnt westworld s2 just come out
Nice
what ilvl are you guys at now?
976
I think its safe to say whatever question gearwise people have the asnwer will always be 'sim it'
Not whatever, but in 99,99% sure
Yes @solar willow but isnt there 1 specific amount of each that is the absolute best?
i guess for me since i cannot do mythic antorus i won't be able to reach those numbers so it is best for me to just sim my way there i guess
I do not understand your question
My DH has almost reached my rogue in Sims :/
I got a 970 relic from weekly cache and a 975 relic from mythic cache
Both of them had terrible main trait
what i ment is there has to be a certain amount of mastery, crit and versatility taht will yield the best dps possible
i dont know if i worded my self correctly there either
english.
That no human being can confirm and tell you accurately with the gear you have on you and in your bags which is the best to equip
That is why we use raidbots.com to sim our geat
Gear*
No, there are no 'target' values that give the absolute best dps
You simply get your statweight and gather stats and gear depending on result
Rogue isnt sp
There are no set numbers
And furthermore we have actually many viable leges
And builds
And styles
This sounds awfully familiar
no
999% mastery/crit/vers/haste would yield the best results.
Yes, My angry little bear
Aim for that
It hurt my soul when we were doing hc and my friend which his rogue is his 3rd alt got a 985 cloak set piece
pretty sure haste has a softcap at about 450% btw
where you get enough energy to mut every single GCD
Well it couldn't hurt to have 999%
more melee doesn't hurt that's for sure!
Richard
@calm grail ๐ซ
Hahahahahah
You dont know what you are talking about
I did go to Mcdonalds for lunch though
Richard. Someday you'll lose it.
I want to see (experience*) what a non Amerifat McDonald's tastes like
Maybe less fatty
You know damn well what I meant, don't go down this road!
I think yesterday they were picking apart word usage.
To a cringey degree.
Two weeks ago some chick was picking apart Notters guide and saying how the language wasnt clear
Dont know the specific word, but it was pretty ugghers
Well he's Israeli so English is his third language
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Tom got Tom banned
Chicken/Egg
why would Tom ever get banned? he seemed like an upstanding guy.
I do not
He's a manlet.
do you guys use the thistle tea?
...no
alright
!trinket
@shrewd night can I get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
uuuuuuh one of those uuuuuuuuuuuuuh

@manic vigil If you want the entire thing, just search for Dysent
It's solid gold.
Wewlad
Got a question
Either I'm stupid or
But basically
If you get two stacks from the chains on Argus Mythic
You can't mitigate it with Cloak right?
Pretty sure that's a no
Is there any way to
Apart from feint
I bind that to feint pretty much
xD
But yeah cloak doesnโt work
Ok
โPretty muchโ
Not actually
Rip energy 

I do it but I dont

Can you not English lol
I mean
I use them together often
But theyโre not bound together

???

either im retarded or
xd
not binding detect to every ability you have
in 2k18
i said i probably am
How do I submit a ticket for badluck? there was a rogue 8 ilvls lower than me pulling equal with 11% PB every fight compared to my 5%
either or
@jovial kite don't make me mute you for self-bully

@slim estuary you don't, welcome to Whose DPS Is It Anyway, where the dps is RNG and the parses don't matter
I'm dumb pretty much
Pretty much

I think we can all agree that koffing is pretty dumb
Can't expect more of a koffing working at McDonald's
Tbh my job isnt much more challenging than that of a mcdonalds employee
willfully eating garbage
So i dont really care
Didnt you recently post a picture of you eating at subway
Slagg
Now THAT'S garbage
no
I can't cook 
I can cook. I just choose not to since nobody but myself appreciates it 
Pretty much
Jesse, we have to cook

Nah thats why its only occassionally
I prefer burger king anyway... It's closer to where I live
don't want to work too hard to get my fatty foods

If i eat outside its mostly chinese
I think I read somewhere that if you were only able to eat two food and not become malnourished (assuming no allergies to them)
Milk and potatoes were the two foods you could live off of forever.
Nice life 
noodles thru uni every day
Wonder what method of potato preparation preserves the most vitamins and minerals.
Eating healthy requires one to actually want to live longer tho 
Just wondering , is energy pooling as important as it was before, if so when is best time to start pooling energy. Thank you.
Make sure you have energy for KB really.
Otherwise it just kind of does its own thing.
pooling died long ago
You just want to keep up Envenom for KB so just make sure you haven't spent it all right before you pop it.
But that's not really a thing or a problem
Can I get a hallelujah for our lord and savior 
Arent you happy there keeping poison bomb but ditching KB.
what if Rupture will off and ur KB is off cd and ur envenom buff just fell off, which is more important? to refresh rupture or have envenom buff for full duration of KB?
An actual ability with gameplay around it.
They're*
Rupture.
Ideally though you won't run to the situation because you planned ahead.
I miss kb already
Stop playing sub then ๐
planned ahead yes..yes of course
I don't play sub. No idea why I'm blue.
@silk whale it depends on what you focus on
I tend to prio TB over KB so I can have whack KB but make sure to fit 2+ envenoms in TB
usually 3+
TB?

Toxic Blade

I wish 3 second Garrote became baseline. I want to feel like an Affliction lock.
ohh
to bad BFA is shit
I think it was 6 and hasn't changed since first deployed build
dead game
With that one talent whose name I can't remember for some reason not being quite as good, being able to Garrote more should make up for the energy regen on multi-target at least.
Idk
Also bleed damage being increased by the mastery
Subtr?
That one Talent we take on me last tier no matter what.
Fuck why can't I remember its name, I look at it everyday
Thuggee?
no
reset on target death?
Subterfuge
smh
?
VR is gone
do you guys recommend a good youtube channel for assassination rogues?
ye it is
Yeah that
well current incarnation is gone
Reading is hard
ded gam
Toxic
When you're 2 selling points of the expansion are both glorified PvE scenarios that will die out after first few months and be scrapped later on
also class design is absolute garbage
on top of all that
sylvanas gonna be raid boss
Sounds like a nice expansion
I thought Legion was going to be garbage, maybe I'll be surprised.
I do have the same reservations as you though
making sylvanas into garrosh 2.0 is dog shit writing
Oh right
I wasn't playing during mop
just like class design
Poison bomb last row talent 
I'm definitely dropping rogue for xpac and finding the least rng influenced class I can to play
!trinkets
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
Golganneth or aman'thul + SSF?
Ok I just don't enjoy the rng that's all

warrior exists flowi
It looks like damage has been toned down a lot though
Try affli st 
So maybe damage won't be so wildly swinging with good procs
Either way I've leveled ob alpha and rogue can definitely feel gcd changes
no it doesnt
This gonna be a caster xpac
you have fucking vendetta on GCD
but seriously guys
big fucking deal
aman'thul or GO?
how does having a GCD on vendetta affect you're gameplay in any meaningful way?
it doesnt
i dont even know how long CD it is on alpha but i'd assume 1.5-2min
1 GCD every 1.5min ish
There's been such a crybaby circle-jerk about the global cooldown lately
commence anti-jerk
but muh opener
I mean it's a pointless change
the only time i feel alive
but it doesnt affect 90% of the classes
ill be pissed if they add it to dumb shit like shadowstep
its already on grappling hook
i cant rmember if sprint is or not
Grapple only gets 0.5sec though, iirc?
Still unpleasant, but not as bad as it could be
yeah
but like thats the gc it invokes you still have to wait for the normal gcd to use it
but grappling already has a cast and shit so meh
nobody cares about outlaw anyway
capital D colon
that true
my comment was more about step though coz they added it to charge
and essentially step is more powerful
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
DH nether walk got a Gcd. They put it on useless shit what are yall complaining about
Wrong discord
No. I'm giving am example
Denied
Objected
Take your DH filth away
My DH can kick your rogues ass
Pvp ain't raiding
Hey friends. I tried asking this on reddit the other day (I'm quite new to the class I'm sorry) but what is the most used combo of legendaries for both poison and bleed build?
Mantle, bracers and boots
bracers/shoulders/boots prob the more popular 3
Alright thank you
is there any mythic plus streamer you'd recommend?
I'm coming from Hunter so I'm trying to understand how rogue plays in keys
I've heard a lot about musclebrah, is he a good streamer?
most of the rogues who do really high keys play sub not sin
well maybe that not entirely true bit i cant think of one who streams sin?
Infexious Gaming, who's also a shadowblade here has a youtube channel
He's got a sin guide for m+
With details CD usage explanations
I dont mind playing sub
if thats what most play in keys it's what I'll play
any streamer tho?
Miraclestep is the only one I know of outside of Muscle.
Muscle plays WW more now though, I think?
No idea. Never really watch streamers play WoW.
Alright thank you friends
oh yeah oce mdi this weekend
incarnated on twitch
Also, are the people answering questions on reddit reliable?
Eh...
oce โฟ
@zealous dew I assumed they'd be decent - offered what I knew. Are they no beuno?
Some can be knowledgeable, yes. But it's a crap shoot.
the competivewow reddit isnt too bad but anyone can reply
Quite a few of us from reddit are here, just ask
no bueno at all
sometimes clueless peopel might answer
Its probably all in the guide
:( some of us are ok @steep obsidian
it's mainly the same two guys answering questions all the time, maybe you guys know them
Re: oce
SIN GUIDE HERE--> http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/ <--SIN GUIDE HERE
In general if you have questions, throw em in here. Usually someone in the know will answer as best they can.
Guide is not so m+focused
And by here I mean the appropriate spec channel.
much nicer than azortharion
See guys, we're the nicest!
Hell yeah
Oh right Tom isnt here now
That's probably why.
Duck it AMR, we nice now
id like to think most people here try and help
And flowi is being good so theres that ๐
Wait Tom got himself ๐จ finally? I missed that.
Hey look at that, somebody called us a nice Discord.
I think he got muted and left or something?
๐
He left. Just not by choice.
ahahah quite a few people get banned from hunter discord too
He left ironically
He reminded me of one of those people that do dangerous things and then act surprised when they get hurt. He was always straddling the line of what was acceptable, it was only a matter of time.
But not literally
@calm grail So he's like that show Jackass?
It's the nature of the class
im a very nice person tyvm
poison
people on the internet make use of anonymity to justify their toxicity
We're nicer when people ask questions and accept help
And don't ask questions that are asked constantly like "what's better x gear or y gear" or "what are bis"
Usually the answer is Sim it or Read the Guide tho
delete ๐
Oh I missed something?
Atoms probably works at McDonalds
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reeeeeee
Oh did I miss another "simming is for cucks" guy?
I fully understand the desire to have a best in slot List, It offers a sort of security in your choices, it's just that it doesn't exist.
i'm still trying to figure out why someone has 4.4m kb ticks
Hacking probably
I missed most of what that guy said because I was raiding, but he handled being told that the information was available for him poorly
Thats a very nice way to word it Spooce
@zealous dew on what fight? Maybe a debuff?
garothi
Now I'm going to have to scroll up
NFI then. God tier procs
By poorly do you mean he started insulting people?
@strange python where were you when we needed you? XD
Cause those are the greatest.
10/10. Remember the name so I can save some scrolling? I could use some bathroom reading.
dysent
@gaunt moat what do you mean haha
Dysent yes
Settle down virgin, calling people an idiot isn't nice
Typo sorry
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@strange python someone was DMing me that this is a toxic discord etc. etc.
now you're saying we're nice
we needed you a few hours ago!
@strange python you've been an excellent seeker of knowledge
Gosh darn it
Asked a question and accepted the answer
I'm sorry for being late fellas
Its a miracle
I was on my mcdonalds lunch break when this happened
Trying to desperately lose my virginity
Was it "Just sim it"
basically
Holy shit
when you said you needed me
That was amazing.
I was afraid you were building a bomb
Bahahaha
How can one person be so far up their own ass.
I'm tempted to ping him and bring him back for round two.
who?
I'll internally explode if i have to read anymore shit from that
O all I saw was a 1 hr mute.
Oh okay. The search function cached his name so I thought he was still here.
Well there goes that plan.
he left
Now I get the new name @shrewd night I was curious
was a good read, would read again
hmm Can I change my name to Fuckwit?
But if he goes after you for that name, he's discriminating against minimum wage employees. Which is just wrong.
@hoary copper Dare you
Double dare you
Done
@shrewd night i don't remember even warning you ever.

why you lying about me ๐ฆ
only asked you to change a nickname
Maybe if you didnt work at McDonalds you'd have better parses

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Dammit, Notter's Complete and Utter Lack of Surprise is too long for Discord.
Guess I'll stick with Ron White's Alter Ego
this is a good name
"Nutter" lmao

I was waiting to see who it was gonna be ๐
Me too
Y'all are way too dank today
anyways, again, getting complaints, so #off-topic better place to discuss
Who is the mystery complainer ๐
What I'm hearing is, go back to talking about Fuckwit's grey parses as Sin. So it's on topic.
I blame Nutter

Angry bun is best bun btw Notter
Angery*
Phone didn't want to spell it like that

The first thing that pulled up on that link was Amy Schumer, I was like "why is she in this discord" then I realized it was an ad...I need coffee
If a celebrity played 'sin, who would it be?
Forest Gump
Life is like a poison bomb, you never know when it'll happen?
Does anyone know whos tanking for Games Revolted? Appears Dregan replaced HenrikssonDK unless thats just his DK's name...?
FYI I shaved my neck beard lastnight so HA!
I have finished my progression journey and now must shave the neck beard
what is that
a cursed image
I think cursed images belong to #off-topic
No one saw that
noone saw yes ๐
something about if your dick could take a picture it would look exactly like my picture
You have the up angle, just need the down angle too ๐
which i find al ittle disturbing
I know not of what you speak, I'm innocent ๐ผ
its your donger ๐คท๐ฟ
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goddamn, this channel is an off topic spam fest while other channels are ded
that picture has certain similarity to a toilet brush
comments about how off topic we all are
makes off topic comment
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!relics
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
okay, back in topic: do i use exsanguinate or toxic blade after i reach 10 alacrity stacks? ๐ค
tboncd
@sharp viper
Ask Don, he loves Alacrity
@keen inlet
Alacrity
Don's twin = Ion confirmed

wait since when does this discord have
emote, don?
since
just
NOW

WOAW
change my name
you can change your name yourself?
I did
why is it called alacrity though
because that's what Ion thinks of it

also can we talk about how it was originally the paladin speed of light icon
that's right
alacrity is using a paladin icon
i tried venom rush on alpha and it is actually worse than alacrity would have been... the change to mastery would increase the potential for alacrity to be good manyfold

rename yourself to badtalent goddess tisumi
2 slo

design wise alacrity is a bad and boring talent
i like this


so ravenholdt now has it's own ionmemekostas emoji, so proud
or did you pickpocket it from another server
Neon Fuzzypandas
I need to track down that post, it was the most satirical, hilarious lambasting of a Q&A ever...existed on oforums for about an hour and then was mysteriously deleted
I made it
90% of ion images you see here were capped by me





will do







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