who needs to learn the fights or get gear
#assassination
strange python
yeah a friends guild just transferred to a52 and died
beceause they thought high pop meant more benched people for their raid team so they could pick choose
just meant their better raiders had more options
steep obsidian
for sure
to be fair though if you arent a top tier guild trying to get people to transfer to a low pop is a lost cause though
unless you can find a niche like raiding at a wierd time no one else does or something
keen inlet
low pop servers are miserable to play on in my experience
some feel differently
¯_(ツ)_/¯
spare cloud
haha
trim dirge
no such thing as too high pop
shrewd night
That feel when sims want you to wear bracer/insignia
trim dirge
edgy
strange python
I like bracers/insig
trim dirge
playing without mantle feels gross
strange python
Insig build is very consistent
trim dirge
i didn't have mantle for the longest time but i also didn't have very high crit so maybe
strange python
poison bomb shmoison blomb
spare cloud
I want to play Insig/boots or bracers or bracers/boots
but I don't have the crit for it
fast nacelle
same
stark trail
any commands to see recommended rotation?
spare cloud
😒
strange python
!singuide
chrome tuskBOT
Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
trim dirge
shrewd night
playing without mantle feels gross
What do you even mean
Id kill to never touch mantle with a tenfoot pole
spare cloud
Why do you not play ring bracers then?
shrewd night
Just got coven hands, so thats what Im planning on doing
Insignia build sims 10k more than mastery boots build for me
shrewd night
steep obsidian
shoulder bombs are kinda addictive but I agree having to delay cds isn't ever fun i should play more without shoulders myself
needs more crit on my gear
shrewd night
Trying some more combos in sims, thank fuck for skip queue/pay2win function
manic vigil
why you booley toph, tyra?!
spare cloud
What?
manic vigil
better?
spare cloud
lone junco
@shrewd night for sims. I had raidbots add 20 and 40 sec. I use patchwerk. you can disable bloodlust in the options if you want as well.
spare cloud
@gaunt moat is the best.
gaunt moat
@midnight latch is angery cause i stolen it from him
midnight latch
manic vigil
midnight latch
🔪
gaunt moat
@midnight latch make your broccoli avatar have that face
manic vigil
what notter said omg 
sharp viper
spare cloud
sharp viper
whoa this is getting quite off topic, oyu do't wannto awaken the don
spare cloud
dont wanna make him angery
manic vigil
Tyra 
spare cloud
@gaunt moat last time I did that for 4 messages I was emote blocked for 2 weeks.
gaunt moat
so he got 2 more, right?
spare cloud
scroll up
sharp viper
now that's 4
gaunt moat
true
manic vigil
Savage bunny is savage 🐰
gaunt moat
don't abuse reactions @fast nacelle @manic vigil
sharp viper
i can't use on my guild discord cause i don't have nitro either
supple hearth
void pecan
Giggle with the moderation.
sharp viper
blush
void pecan
wow
fast nacelle
@gaunt moat ok
sharp viper
fast, back on topic: playing boots on argus feels so much better, your cds line up 10 times better, but i kinda miss out on 2 additional vendetta relics for the proper line up
fast nacelle
try insignia bracer
sharp viper
and bracers are deadweight stat sticks if we have to reprogress phase 1 and 2
manic vigil
wtf did I do @gaunt moat ? arbitrariness ftw
sharp viper
with alacrity and elaborate? toph told me about tat build you are running
fast nacelle
no alacrity
gaunt moat
@manic vigil can you relax? i just said don't abuse reactions. jeez :x
sharp viper
tried to sim it for myself but it was shit
gaunt moat
@dire spoke hah that's good
manic vigil
but I didn't. I was just pointing out that tyra did it. and that I find it hilarious
manic vigil
all I did was help toph out by using FeesBadMan where he could not
I'm a friggin saint if anything
dire spoke
there
gaunt moat
not a debate.
spare cloud
Please add that to the emojis.,
manic vigil
fair enough
sharp viper
manic vigil
but if it were one, would I have won? 
gaunt moat
@dire spoke just put wahtever in off-topic and tag jose
spare cloud
What?
fast nacelle
same
indigo epoch
So from https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/relics/1t-t21-rogue-assassination-boots-bracers I would assume the first master assasin relic you get is very strong, but 2 and 3 are much less strong right?
currently have 3 master alchemist relics, but thinking about swapping for 1 master assasin relic that is -1 ilvl
sims seem inconsistent.
sharp viper
what do you mean sims seem incosistent?
spare cloud
Wait what
indigo epoch
some situtations it seems better, some (?) depending on group comp (number of raid trinkets) and vs. m+ etc.
sharp viper
malch is always better in m+
spare cloud
Changing settings = inconsistent sims
indigo epoch
but its unrealitic to not sim with raid trinkets, im ina progression mythic raiding group.... lol.
ok fuck it ill only sim on default settings, that makes sense.
.<
shrewd night
Oh, your entire group is decked out with amanthuls?
somehow I find that hard to believe
sharp viper
simcraft/raidbots assume other people in the raid have manthuls which is the joker of the pantheon trinkets and will inflate that dmg
shrewd night
So if you want to have realistic sims, sim with ~7 trinkets or none at all
indigo epoch
so what relics are yall running? just the best you can get? or do you care about number MAlch/MAssas traits?
sharp viper
i would never go above 4 additional pantheon trinkets in the sims
spare cloud
3 malch/3 mass with 3x MoS
sand whale
I have 1ma, I wish I had 3
sharp viper
abbreviation is the word you were looking for
spare cloud
No thank you
sharp viper
yw
manic vigil
3malch 3 bb 
shrewd night
Gib
indigo epoch
thanks for your input.....didnt realize the pantheon setting was only for amanthuls trinkets.... doh. cheers.
dire spoke
It's written below the setting
indigo epoch
i see that now
Some clearer Bold description would be "Additional Amanthul's Trinkets in Raid " instead of pantheon lol.
sharp viper
they added taht recently to the raidbots tooltip since a lot of people missed out on that information
indigo epoch
but all good, still ❤ raidbots.
sharp viper
errant otter
is the import string from https://www.herodamage.com/rogue/relics/1t-t21-rogue-assassination-mantle-bracers wrong?
I have 5 traits in Master Assassin
and the addon tells me the sixth trait is worth 6.62
errant otter
errant otter
🤔
spare cloud
huh?
errant otter
might be fucking up because it's unreachable idk
spare cloud
Should sim anyways
supple mesa
Anybody sim higher with boots?
spare cloud
Yes
supple mesa
What is the cause of it? Is it having more master ass than alchs?
Scratch that I have 2x alch 1x mast ass
supple mesa
Alright, so the question is do you still run bracers to parse? Or you rn boots?
SEeing as the dps isnt an astronomical difference
manic vigil
bracers are kinda set in stone yeah
they also perform slightly better than they sim usually
dire spoke
just lfr things 
https://snag.gy/Pm5L90.jpg
manic vigil
holy shit 
iron sierra
link fight
dire spoke
link fight
iron sierra
bro you dont log your lfr
spare cloud
@dire spoke sup bro
dire spoke
no not public, I don't want to give away strats
dire spoke
imma get 985 engine 930hastemasteryneck now
spare cloud
Yeah right
dire spoke
@spare cloud I helped your twinks twice already 
spare cloud
I helped your dk as well
we can do another round tomorrow
though
I still owe you a carry
I mean we can also go right now if theres a group
I have time
dire spoke
I have to eat smth 
manic vigil
zempai always hungry 😦
are you living alone while attending university?
do you need me to send you a care package? 
spare cloud
I'm ready
lets go?
or are ya gonna eat
I have some ribs left over
I made 2 but only ate 1
You can come over and have some 😉
manic vigil
you made 2 ribs?
spare cloud
2 rows
dire spoke
I'm living alone, waiting for response on my job app 
you can donate 10€ I can live of that for 1+ week
manic vigil
oh my
wise frigate
Probably something involving clicking I'd imagine.
dire spoke
I'm a web-dev
midnight latch
more front-end or back-end?
dire spoke
more interface/frontend but I'd be happy to learn some object oriented stuff
are you too? 🤔
oh this is sin chat sorry
manic vigil
mods are sleeping, we gucci 
manic vigil
ganandor sucking up to the bossmen 
void pecan
Gotta keep this nose brown
manic vigil
void pecan
All EU boys sleeping rn.
manic vigil
giggle is us
midnight latch
notter is not eu
manic vigil
actually no idea about some SB. rosvall seems swedish or something like that
no clue about loktark and greyhound
someone's always watching and I might be close to getting into trouble 
void pecan
please no.
manic vigil
who are you?
strange python
Remember me
manic vigil
nope
midnight latch
no
strange python
.im the guy u guys muted for being racist
midnight latch
"u guys"
manic vigil
midnight latch
ok
dire spoke
you're a bored lad ppl don't care about
void pecan
Nope.
midnight latch
your rank is grey thou
probably like ur wcls
manic vigil
🔥
spare cloud
My logs are grey and I feel offended to be compared to that person.
manic vigil
you gonna make the cute little asian women angery? 
spare cloud
void pecan
Link me some of that kpop
spare cloud
Should probably swap to offtopic though
void pecan
Oh you did.
trim dirge
iu a qt
void pecan
Yep.
manic vigil
what is that video toph? did she get poisoned by that cake?
spare cloud
question
fresh notch
!trinkets
chrome tuskBOT
List of trinkets for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
honest pelican
Waste 650 argunite on a fel relic for sub, so i can attempt mage tower, or go for a trinket since i have 2 920 relinquish junk
sour wraith
is it common to have the helm sim as highest legendary?
over boots/bracers
boots or bracers*
sour wraith
no i have mantle on
spare cloud
depends on what you want to achieve
grim canopy
mas DPS
spare cloud
max over a large amount of trys or lower average and higher highs
trim dirge
i want big numbers
spare cloud
ok
void pecan
It has the biggest numbers. Believe me.
strange python
I've talked to many numbers, they tell me I'm the biggest
midnight latch
oh honey
grim canopy
Big dps
spare cloud
try bleed then
tender ridge
HI so does anyone have some time to help me work out some issues with my char?
spare cloud
what do you need
tender ridge
to fix anything with my gear if need be and/or just my rotation
hazy iron
Boots bracers sims significantly lower for me than bracers mantle 😔
spare cloud
for gear you are best of simulating yourself
because its very specific to your character
for rotation, have you read the guide? If no read it
!singuide
chrome tuskBOT
Assassination guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
honest pelican
how bad is it to pickpocket those coins of air for 5k gold each week?
spare cloud
and you will get a response
trim dirge
can get it done within 30min at moonguard stronghold
tender ridge
drifting cloud
30min? you can do it under 10min in suramar
honest pelican
ah
trim dirge
well yeah it is very fast
tender ridge
im i guess more curious bout the relics
trim dirge
usually wont take you 30min lol
trim dirge
monkaS
tender ridge
i honestly just go around doin dailys as sub and have it macro'd to shadow dance
spare cloud
Do you have Mantle?
tender ridge
tank pulled in wrong direction so i had to wait before i engaged
spare cloud
Because you are only wearing 1 legendary on that kill.
tender ridge
ya i did that now
tender ridge
ive had the mantle for a bit. i got the bracers more recently
cuz i was outlaw to start with then my guild told me to switch to sin
tender ridge
thats why im here
sand whale
try using shadowstep or sprint
sand whale
keep seeing you consistently start doing stuff 3-5 seconds after pull
spare cloud
sand whale
also as I said in basic your rotation is messy
tender ridge
was following a dps addon to try and make my dps higher
spare cloud
You wore crown and back for that kill
I can't find any legitimate kill in your logs
that is recent
and shows your current level of play as assa
with the legendaries you use on your profile
tender ridge
ya im working on that atm
spare cloud
So lets start from the beginning
have you read the guide?
because you don't follow it
tender ridge
my guild didnt take me this morning for the raid like asses
sand whale
say even now you have mantle + bracers
from a more recent log https://i.imgur.com/VsuOKYP.png
spare cloud
from what log is that
sand whale
and also in general the guide: http://www.ravenholdt.net/assassination-guide/
spare cloud
Anyways, yeah we should start right from the basic
take a look at the guide
gather some questions you have
and once you are done come back and ask them
tender ridge
k
spare cloud
If you have none you can go into a normal pug and try the changes out
log it and send that
then I can take another look over it
hazy iron
Especially going from outlaw to assassin, you're probably going to want to keep smashing buttons, but assassin is fairly low APM comparitively.
grim canopy
how much more % is blood build
hazy iron
What are the main priorities of bleed anyways, crit verse? Its never simmed well for me, ever
Obviously sims give the answer
hazy iron
Oh cool. I might be able to play around with some gear and have a bit of fun on farm tonight lol
grim canopy
aww forget that
vapid moth
damn bruh i dunno about EU but theres literally only 1 +19 pug in que at a time
guess im done actually pushing for the xpac
void pecan
Maybe we won't see you complain about it every day then 😄 (/s)
vapid moth
yeah. maybe
hazy iron
What affixes this week?
trim dirge
question can you pop cloak and sprint through the imonar bridge
never tried it but its so tempting
grim canopy
i like tyran i feel more usefull than teeming
last week no invites
this week they want me to cum tho
void pecan
@trim dirge no
vapid moth
@trim dirge yes. but dont hit the green mines
vapid moth
they knock you back
dire spoke
I smell log rant
vapid moth
he asked if you could. not if the whole raid would die
for all i know hes planning his BfA end of xpac solo run
trim dirge
lol i am aware of the beams was more curious about the mines but if they still knock you back oh well :(
vapid moth
there arent that many green mines though. least not on heroic. you can navigate them
spare cloud
They still knock.you
trim dirge
yeah i just thought it'd be fun to sprint through lol
spare cloud
You should cloak to help out healers
For example while spirit link
If you play that kind of tactic
Also on eu there are many m+ groups going
But why would you push with randoms
Thats like pugging mythic
vapid moth
im on US
spare cloud
Also 19 is not really pushing
void pecan
I also haven't logged on wow in two weeks.
manic vigil
playing wow without having any friends to play seems odd tbh
and I'm as socially handicapped as they come
manic vigil
at some point you should have joined a guild or even made some friends while pugging idk
trim dirge
im guildless right now after my old guild disbanded, the pug life is a very sad life :(
spare cloud
Im antisocial af and i found a guild
You can get very good logs in a hc pug
And easily find a guild
Just gotta work your way up
Everyone has done it at one point
That is ofc if you want to
supple hearth
Wow isn't as fun without a tight knit group to play with tbh. Anytime I've ever taken a "break" from wow is because nobody to play with
spare cloud
If i were kicked out of my guild and i couldnt find a better one fast i would be gone instantly
Tbh
trim dirge
i just liked those guys haha
late mauve
heyyy all, what should i Aim to get for BiS Relics? Master Alchemist ? oder Master Assasin?
supple hearth
!relics
chrome tuskBOT
List of relics for each spec: http://tc.ravenholdt.net/
gray_hounds relic sheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vmVwWWnNhrbzi0S_qK6emjFquyUexbTmOEov7vkRjjg/edit#gid=0
late mauve
thx
late mauve
i did ^^ but someone said to me i need 1 trait of master assasin too
i have unlucky t3 rolls
manic vigil
supple hearth
:p
spare cloud
But then again i dont know the guys that wrote the apl
manic vigil
spare cloud
Can i really trust them
supple hearth
The theorycrafters are pretty good at what they do
turbid harbor
they also make lots of mistakes
supple hearth
Less than I do
turbid harbor
but so does everybody
spare cloud
Well what makes a good player is how you react after making the mistakes
void pecan
Exactly.
dire spoke
I'm clicking because the game would be to easy for me with keybinds tbh
spare cloud
Yeh
Zempai thanks for helping us inferior players out
By not playing to the best of your capabilities
dire spoke
I had my pro plays in hello kitty adventure 2, now you young bois shall shine
late mauve
what ilvl ur rogs have? 970+?
trim dirge
1000
spare cloud
977
dire spoke
973
late mauve
how can i push my avg dps on aggramar mythik? i saw some rog with top loggs spamming aoe on small adds to apply poisions, is it worth? i mean ye ofc it should but its nasty or? 😄
spare cloud
If i were to do that in my raid id be kicked faster than i can say fan of knives
late mauve
thats the point
trim dirge
🤔
late mauve
we have a lock with sacrolash who slow the adds u know, i think if i blast full in the adds could die 😄
late mauve
yeeee its true but i need better loggs, i got with like 2mill dps just a 50% logg 😄
feelsbadman
dire spoke
what do you need better logs for
late mauve
big dick bro xD
spare cloud
Yeh well dont be bothered by logs
Good logs come naturally with good consistent gameplay
And you dont need them for anything except if you are looking for a new guild
late mauve
its true but sometimes my raidlead look in logs, the prob is some classes play like 1.8mill but have a 70% logg and i feel bad then with 50% log but 2mill dps 😄
why cant it be balanced all classes lul
dire spoke
you and your RL must have no idea how logs work, could that be?
spare cloud
Do you double soak
late mauve
sometimes if ranges fail ye
spare cloud
It has a large impact on logs
late mauve
ok nice to know ^^
spare cloud
Also timings etc.
dire spoke
It sounds like your RL would rant on dps without checking plays or avoided damage
late mauve
nono
hes just a freak in logs checking and were on r5 on blackrock 11/11 mythik, 6x argus down
hes a perfect player, im just the shitter in that case 😄
late mauve
i take vigor
spare cloud
Depends on your build
strange python
poison build
dire spoke
sin actually ever had a DS time?
spare cloud
Yes
civic palm
DS was better for most of the expansion.
turbid harbor
when rupture did more damage per tick based on cp spent
civic palm
Just butt to play so no one did.
dire spoke
I don't remember anymore tbh
civic palm
Lots of changes this XPAC.
turbid harbor
first iteration of agonizing
spare cloud
Who played rogue at that time anyways
civic palm
15% proc chance wooo > _>
turbid harbor
a lot of the time ds was better for sin was when nobody played sin
spare cloud
When you could play warrior
manic vigil
_>
dire spoke
<_ <
turbid harbor
but EN and ToV ds was better
spare cloud
Warrior
turbid harbor
week 2 en
civic palm
Yeah very early.
dire spoke
whew
civic palm
OTL was broken at the very end of Beta but people didn't notice the changes.
Went Live with the first True Bearing nerf and people just realized a little late.
and then TB got nerfed every other week of the expansion.
dire spoke
yeah
civic palm
100% AR uptime is not good.
turbid harbor
tb didn't get repeatedly nerfed
outlaw traits got nerfed
fatebringer was 4 energy per point
civic palm
That was bad as well.
turbid harbor
run through trait was 8%
civic palm
Yeah smort.
dire spoke
I played sin exsa madness until nerf > otl until nerfs > sin (cus no sub boots) > sub > sin
🤔
civic palm
EX was mega-dumb as well as far as balancing goes.
civic palm
400 - 100 - 200? - 600?! - 400 - 200... yeah 200.
spare cloud
Hehe
dire spoke
a guild rogue mate went full yolo and got sub boots :< I was so jealous
gilded yacht
Thanks for the suggestions and such a few days ago. ^^;
I went from somehow being crappy sub-20 percentile on my rogue to 50-60 percentile in a few days. 🙂
civic palm
There's still a while to go but most of it is within reach!! 😃
manic vigil
dire spoke
gilded yacht
😆 I did 81 percentile on Aggramar and 95 percentile on Argus.
I think that advice a few days back helped 😆
gilded yacht
shh aside from that :P
I was fucking up my opener terrible and not casting toxic blade on CD because I was waiting to line it up with KB, etc.
I also had the mentality I had to cast at full combo points every single time
needless to say, I was doing shit for what I was capable of :p
subtle imp
👀
supple hearth
🙀
barren lark
how many ilvls is master alch worth?
because i have a 955 gushing but also a 945 master alc
plain thistle
you need to sim
civic palm
Gonna have to consider the rest of the relic as well.
barren lark
yeah in the middle of raid at the moment just thought id ask because on trash and im bored
civic palm
Here's hoping the other traits are not trash.
void pecan
The faster you kill trash the faster you get to wipeon bosses.
manic vigil
@plain thistle what do your relics look like btw? just out of curiosity 7/7 malch/mass?
barren lark
you mean bonus rolling on kin for the third time this week because this fucker refuses to drop me his shadow on heroic :&)
civic palm
MAss x2 barf
civic palm
Bungo.
plain thistle
without shoulder 6MA is not a problem at all
civic palm
Malch/BB gogogo
jovial kite
Cool story bre
hazy iron
@plain thistle why is that? (Re: 6 MAss traits without shoulders)
grim canopy
i watchin some assassin bfa alpha it looks like a dream poison bomb so much
dream cum true
plain thistle
@hazy iron 6MA with shoulder is a dps loss, without shoulder its not a problem, because you dont need to align vendetta with vanish
hazy iron
Ahhh right. Whats the play with vanish in that case, nightstalk a 5 cp rupture?
crimson knoll
Yup
supple hearth
@dire spoke why wouldu want to do that
plain thistle
@hazy iron in what case? shoulder? no you envenom
dire remnant
2 haste/vers buffs from argus is better than 1 crit/mast right?
so if the rage person gets the crit/mast buff and I can only get the haste/vers, should i just try and grab the white buffs from that point on to keep the stacks?
obv crit/mast is ideal.
hazy iron
No shoulders
Im in a predicament my self where i ended up with 6 mass and 7 malch
But my shoulders still sim highest of any combo
Was thinking of going boots wrists tonight
iron sierra
quick question on opener
garrote -> mut -> rupture -> vendetta seems like i'm wasting energy, is this not the case?
hazy iron
Despite it simming something like 20k less
plain thistle
wel,l if using nighstalker yes rupture, with subterfuge garrote 😄
currently im playing with subterfuge with T20 2p + T21 4p
dire spoke
@supple hearth that would at least make my day in this ded game
hazy iron
Solid
plain thistle
@iron sierra yes, you will waste energy with the best opener, no problem at all 😄
iron sierra
thanks for the answer
livid crescent
Wonder if I could do the DK Mage Tower at 890ilvl Hmmmm
plain thistle
unh?
supple hearth
with the right legendaries and the skill sure why not. But why would not just make it easier on yourself and spend the few hours to get to 930+
plain thistle
yeah, the unholy is very easy, it will be hard at 890 ilvl but its doable
livid crescent
Requires time in LFR/people to carry me to 930 in M+
May just take the easy road and do the first two ATB lfrs
Unh is Agatha right
plain thistle
yup
grim canopy
can assassin beat ret 1v1 instanced?
scarlet plaza
wise frigate
No.
light jacinth
🥒
tender ridge
so heres a question .... using shadowcraft it says i have higher dps using bracers & crown .... but using raid bots it says im higher using bracers & mantle ..... but looking more into it raidbots says bracer & crown are only 10k lower than bracer and mantle. Any suggestions
zealous dew
if you vanish like a potato use crown
tender ridge
not sure what ya mean by that. potatoes in my house disappear real fast.
tender ridge
horribly
zealous dew
there you have your answer
tender ridge
ill try it and see how it works out. thx
fervent beacon
With crown and enough high crit, you can run DS.
Pretty fun to play with when I was running it.
dire remnant
do bracers affect poison bomb damage?
stark heart
Yes
oblique smelt
if i cloak while having flame wreath does it blow up
i did a 16 upper kara with a bad healer and didnt wanna risk blowing up the group
zealous dew
no, save cloak when you have wreath and you get inferno bolt in daa face
since you can't shadowstep
oblique smelt
Does cheat death make it explode?
zealous dew
nop
oblique smelt
Good good
Cant wait to get shoulders on my rogue, missing legs, boots, shoulders :<
zealous dew
good luck 😃
tender ridge
dont think my crit is high enough yet for that only at 40
zealous dew
feels so good
shrewd night
Cant wait for slagg to post how many weeks he has gotten haste shit
dire remnant
how much does each point of master assassin reduce it's cd by?
gaunt moat
me neither
but wowhead has a trait calculator @dire remnant
trim dirge
8sec I think
gaunt moat
@trim dirge each point reduces it by less
trim dirge
Oh never knew that
steep obsidian
that was a 7.1 nerf
.1.5 even
along with boot nerf
wed have almost had perma vendetta in nh without those changes
would have been glorious
trim dirge
Makes sense lol
zealous dew
10 10 10 8 6 4 4
vivid bone
shut it!
shrewd night
Oh, so there are greens here!
vivid bone
Maybe you're the nobody
vivid bone
if anything it makes me more
spare cloud
how so
cold spoke
spare cloud
me being a nobody and you being a nobody stand in no correlation
vivid bone
nice
gaunt moat
Who are you people
spare cloud
Who are you
thinking bunny is gone
Naya wanted to make me an avatar too
havent heard from him since
vivid bone
damn that name dropping
viscid helm
@gaunt moat
spare cloud
Oh boy
vivid bone
fakeflowi?
midnight latch
@viscid helm
viscid helm
Thanks
shrewd night
Nonyellow flowi is like a bun without gym
viscid helm
shrewd night
spare cloud
Trusted flowi
gaunt moat
Way aim so low.
Aim for despot
vivid bone
Go for bot red
lilac lily
I have a quick question about assassination, do I ask it here or is there another channel? For future reference
gaunt moat
That's brown
vivid bone
It's red
shrewd night
If its not, ask here
gaunt moat
BROWN
lilac lily
I dont think it is
vivid bone
God damnit, it's red
shrewd night
Keyword - 'think'
gaunt moat
@lilac lily just ask :x
lilac lily
Ok, I'm pretty sure it's not haha
frozen pecan
It's burgundy
oblique smelt
i hate this game, last week i got a 980 Ring with 3k haste, this week i get a 3k haste neck
lilac lily
So, should i KB/TB with 4cp? Or just Envenom and KB after?
oblique smelt
shrewd night
wuh
lilac lily
Same with TB? Because even if it crits, it's just one cp wasted right?
vivid bone
It's red
frozen pecan
burgundy*
viscid helm
Its 2 wasted
stark heart
if you don't have env buff I'd env at 4 and then KB
shrewd night
Oh, I wasnt understanding the question at first because I thought he asked if he should kb/tb with 4pc
Two letter difference
Wew lad
Coffee, where are you
lilac lily
Yeah, KB would be 2 wasted I guess
gaunt moat
I sometimes TB at 5.
Not saying that's wise. But meh.
viscid helm
lilac lily
@stark heart Even if I envenom right after?
frozen pecan
envenom and then kb
viscid helm
Yeh i'd env and then KB
frozen pecan
ayy flowi is back FeelsGoodMan
gaunt moat
Why would you envenom after KB if envenom nit up
shrewd night
Flowi is NewTom
lilac lily
Won't the Envenom buff affect KB if use it after?
frozen pecan
thought notter is new tom
spare cloud
Flowi is just here for revenge
vivid bone
By defeating Tom, you become new Tom
frozen pecan
like in face off
stark heart
well you would have 1 second without env buff if you KB first
also potential to waste 1-2 cp
lilac lily
True
gaunt moat
if you don't have envnom up i would envenom first yeah
if you do, i would just KB personally.
lilac lily
I see, what about TB?
gaunt moat
i TB on CD :x
stark heart
I'd TB first
frozen pecan
why though it's wasted cp 🤷
viscid helm
Then you would need to 2x mut for next
gaunt moat
we got rid of toxicity yesterday so that's why we needed to import flowi back
shrewd night
Id tb first for sure
viscid helm
I would kB + mut instead
stark heart
losing 3 cp?
shrewd night
4CP > TB > Env > KB
lilac lily
Right, that would be optimal
spare cloud
Using tb straight on cd is kinda not what you should do anyways
as long as you dont lose uses you can use the abilities at the time it does the most dmg/buffs the most spells
stark heart
with such a short CD it's quite rare when you hold it
viscid helm
I always hold
stark heart
sure
viscid helm
Never use it
spare cloud
then I tb envenom
frozen pecan
I only hold when other cd's are 5 sec away
viscid helm
Dps loss
spare cloud
and get 3 envenoms in tb
viscid helm
Literally
viscid helm
Exactly
shrewd night
stark heart
I wait for last 9 seconds of KB
spare cloud
I use tb before KB
shrewd night
I always pug, because the chance of me getting an actual good key is 0,1%
spare cloud
unless it comes up after kb is ready
frozen pecan
tb before kb is more dps
spare cloud
then I wait for 9 secs
stark heart
that is what I meant
if you have rare case when TB comes after KB you wait to buff last ticks
spare cloud
well it also depends on the amound
like
if its a really long fight I dont do it
because that would mean I would lose casts
depending on how tbs come off cds in comparison to kb
lilac lily
@stark heart Oh, because the last ticks are the ones that do the most damage, I never thought about that lul
spare cloud
lilac lily
But it's not worth delaying TB for that right?
spare cloud
we just discussed all that
shrewd night
Toph covered that two lines above yours
lilac lily
Ah, I see. Sorry, english is not my primary language lul
spare cloud
gaunt moat
🤔
shrewd night
rekt
gaunt moat
maybe you should
vivid bone
^
stark heart
not again...
spare cloud
I'm thinking of getting a wa combobar
spare cloud
Because the elvui one is buggy af
vestal wren
should we create a community yt video we link every time somone says: i dont use wa?
vivid bone
riiiiiight
spare cloud
zealous dew
just get to 100 crit and you don't need combopoints counter
viscid helm
If i actually bothered with gear i could prob reach 100% crit
shrewd night
I mean
Unless the next line after 'I dont use WAs' is 'because the game is ez'
Im all onboard
frozen pecan
who needs wa honestly
shrewd night
Different shading per combo point
spare cloud
I'm changing as soon as I'm done with invasions
shrewd night
what the fuck is that
spare cloud
Yeh.
sharp viper
the combo point bar?
spare cloud
it's buggy since a while
sharp viper
just change the texture?
frozen pecan
never had any trouble with the elvui combo bar
viscid helm
Scuffed af
frozen pecan
did you mod it?
spare cloud
Also
notice on the right side
the border is missing
stuff like that
happening all the time
shrewd night
Toph brain: Well it doesnt impact me in any way..
Toph brain: But I CANT FUCKING UNSEE IT
frozen pecan
anti what
shrewd night
Anticipation duh
spare cloud
Anyone using a combobar that matches into my theme?
frozen pecan
ayy
spare cloud
otherwise Ill just make one myself
stark heart
dead talent btw
gaunt moat
Flowi (Riff incarnate)
shrewd night
'helo frans'
zealous dew
i'd pay flowi for an argus kill tbh
shrewd night
Id pay flowi for the mount, but not the kill
spare cloud
You can pay us for the mount today
zealous dew
viscid helm
Im selling BFA tactics and WA's
spare cloud
please leave
gaunt moat
seems legit
frozen pecan
🤦
vivid bone
🤦
vestal wren
bfa tactics?
gaunt moat
viscid helm
Weak isnt playing a mage
jovial kite
jovial kite
85 3 days a week is enough for me
spare cloud
casual
jovial kite
But we gon raid 4 days in bfa
jovial kite
40 is doable
midnight latch
GIFTBOMBE!
spare cloud
I don't even know what pb is in german
like I mean I can translate it
but I dont know the games name for it
viscid helm
Are there even any german guilds
shrewd night
midnight latch
@viscid helm yes
spare cloud
we germans need a good guild again
spare cloud
Yeah
viscid helm
Memento is recruiting btw
Need someone who can make weakauras
So we can compete
And not be ♿
spare cloud
Who is memento?
stone sandal
Dreanor guild
shrewd night
Application form: 'Explain your talentchoices'
autofail for not using alacrity
stark heart
when you get asked your talent choices
spare cloud
thought they are on frostwhisper
stark heart
💤
spare cloud
🤔
Can you play more than 1 class on a high level?
do you have logs to back it up?
if one of the answers is no
instadecline
shrewd night
Memento - A real two day guild, outside of progress where we raid 6 days a week.