#assassination

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frozen pecan
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lmao what's going on here

lone junco
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Ok. As a raid lead: If you can parse purple with zero addons. Fine

shrewd oriole
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She can’t thi

ionic cypress
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yeah i can rofl

shrewd oriole
shrewd night
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Stream it

ionic cypress
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im almost always orange or purple

steep obsidian
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encounters are designed with all those mods in mind

lone junco
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But the wa triggers are for survival as well.

ionic cypress
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YEAH youre looking at overall

shrewd night
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Aahhahahahsodkgnlksnhgknhfd

ionic cypress
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what did i say before? ilvl

shrewd oriole
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Ilvl logs

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Are a joke

ionic cypress
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its easy to judge when you are 970

steep obsidian
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when they dont want you to be able to see/predict something nowadays they hide it from the combatlog

ionic cypress
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they are a joke at certain levels

steep obsidian
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although those mechs are pretty rare

ionic cypress
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if you have enough parses in that ilvl range they are not a joke

solid nova
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If i run Antorus on my 900 ilvl and do 100k dps but get 100 parse for my ilvl, am i good?

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No.

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Be realistic.

shrewd oriole
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^

lone junco
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What's your ilvl?

ionic cypress
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read up

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"if you have enough parses in that ilvl range they are not a joke"

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if you are 900... no you wont have enough

shrewd oriole
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Yeah they are

ionic cypress
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952

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still.

shrewd oriole
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You don’t have many 950 parses

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Lmao

shrewd night
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Where do you draw the line of enough parses though? Because being 99% of 300k parses looks alot better than being a 100% of 300 parses.

ionic cypress
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like i said.... its been near impossible for me to get gear

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yeah of course... but its near impossible for me to do that with my gear

lone junco
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They why would they take you to mythic?

ionic cypress
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so it makes way less sense to look at my overall

vapid moth
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You can't get gear at 952?

steep obsidian
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has anyone fiddled around with terrorbound nexus on trash in dungeons? have a 965 one might play around with

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seems not bad

ionic cypress
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because of my ilvl... with gear of course my overall will go up

frozen pecan
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I have to read through this convo lol

lone junco
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I'm 957 as bleed. I do 2.0 -2.1

shrewd oriole
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Imagine getting trolled by xaethron

ionic cypress
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whats sad is i am 967 in my bags

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thats how bad it is.

limber lion
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Gearing in this game is super simple. If you play 1 hour a day, do one +15 and one heroic run, of course you wont get gear.

vapid moth
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I just came in here I'm try a catch up

ionic cypress
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and yes i spend hours simming myself

lone junco
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Then don't play bleed.

shrewd oriole
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^

limber lion
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If you really want gear, you would do +15-+25 10 times a day

shrewd oriole
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I’m glad this game is so easy tho

ionic cypress
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"stubborn"

limber lion
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I've been grinding my ass of on Upper Karazhan to get EoC and as a result I've gotten pretty good loot as well

shrewd night
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Im fucking ded

limber lion
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It's about that grind

shrewd oriole
ionic cypress
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i do them 5 x a day?

lone junco
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Nah. 2p4p bracer boot. 3vendetta 45+ crit Isn't the easy way.

shrewd night
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This HAS to be some quality bait

ionic cypress
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sorry not cool enough to do 10

frozen pecan
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this reminds me of one of my mates "I don't need addons" -> dies every encounter lul

shrewd oriole
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I’m gonna go shower

shrewd night
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Wash yourself clean of this shit Tom

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Go do it

ionic cypress
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you guys are something else

modest oyster
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Quick question: being told by my RL that you can use Evasion to mitigate Tortured Rage damage on Argus as it's physical, yay or nay?

shrewd oriole
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No

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That’s wrong

modest oyster
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Obvs I know feint works

limber lion
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LOL

shrewd night
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Cant evade aoe

strange python
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not cool enough to do sth? dafuq

limber lion
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Evasion is a dead ability in raids

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You never use it for anything

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It's to dodge basic attacks

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Which, you never do

lone junco
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@shrewd oriole my kid barfed last night. Right as I was putting my keystone in.

shrewd oriole
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Not true

turbid oxide
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Tortured rage isn't even the phys

shrewd oriole
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You can use it in ahc

gilded lark
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dodge aoe Kek

shrewd oriole
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To dodge bladedtorms

vapid moth
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It works on garothi

shrewd oriole
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But that’s it

limber lion
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Well, yep.

frozen pecan
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I use it to dodge bladestorm

shrewd oriole
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So yes you can dodge some forms of aoe

strange python
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@lone junco time to explain your kid how mythic + works and that he has to wait

frozen pecan
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how is that ability dead

vapid moth
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When you wanna stay on the boss In heroic

frozen pecan
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fuckin idiots in this channel

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ffs

limber lion
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Or you know

shrewd night
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Heroic

shrewd oriole
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As long as they are hits

shrewd night
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Dont get me started

astral sundial
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@vapid moth works on garothi for what?

vapid moth
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Eradication ? I think it's called

shrewd oriole
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It doesn’t work on garothi

vapid moth
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The big Green wave

shrewd oriole
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Oh god

astral sundial
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it doesn't

frozen pecan
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xaethron has to know he is 1/11

solid nova
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Jesus christ

shrewd oriole
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It doesn’t

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This c hat

gilded lark
modest oyster
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Okay guys I'll tell the RL he's an idiot

frozen pecan
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much experience on garothi

modest oyster
strange python
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evasion works on bladestorm adds on high command

shrewd night
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He used the A word

shrewd oriole
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@modest oyster dide

limber lion
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Valarim, you're one to talk

vapid moth
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I've always thought it did

shrewd oriole
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Deletethatrn

strange python
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or the bladestorm bitch in mythic+ arcway

limber lion
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You thought you could dodge Tortured Rage with evasion

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xD

shrewd oriole
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You’re gonna get muted

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Quick

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I’m srs

modest oyster
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edited

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xd

shrewd oriole
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Dodging eradication btw

shrewd night
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Good boi

turbid oxide
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The only thing evasion works on on argus are the scythes that fly around the room

modest oyster
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Wait

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It does?

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WTF

shrewd oriole
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@modest oyster tip for the future, you can’t type the A word

modest oyster
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Brokennnnnn

lone junco
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@ionic cypress Im all for ilvl parses as long as you can exceed your sim value. But if your sim says 1.8 in mythic it's going to be a rough time. Anyway. If you need tips on bleed hmu.

shrewd night
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Or the R word

turbid oxide
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Yes just make sure you face them

modest oyster
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Why not? It's the only word that describes my RL

shrewd oriole
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I can tell

astral sundial
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@turbid oxide please don't troll me..I might try it tommrow

frozen pecan
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or the N word

shrewd oriole
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The mods have the finga on the trigga

shrewd night
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Have the Kinga on the trigga

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huehuehue

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Kill me

shrewd oriole
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Like a badass kinga

limber lion
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You can hit Argus from 10km away, no reason to ever get hit by a scythe

modest oyster
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What's the N word?

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Just so I konw

gilded lark
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noob

shrewd oriole
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Niger

frozen pecan
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Nignog

modest oyster
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WOW

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RACIST

shrewd night
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Tom

strange python
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non bleed player

shrewd night
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😠

shrewd oriole
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It’s my favorite African nation

shrewd night
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Good save

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Actually

shrewd oriole
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Not even edited

modest oyster
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Wait so people with green names are allowed to say niger

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But I'm not

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MOD ABUSE

shrewd oriole
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Everyone can say niger

strange python
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everybody is allowed to mention his favorite country

shrewd oriole
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It’s a great country

modest oyster
shrewd oriole
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Who doesn’t love a politically stable African nation

frozen pecan
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you are white

shrewd oriole
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Those are rare these days

crimson basin
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Can you play exsang build without 3ma ?

shrewd oriole
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N o

strange python
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no

frozen pecan
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you can

shrewd night
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You can

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but oyu wont

strange python
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it just wont do dmg

frozen pecan
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id sucks balls tho

modest oyster
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Also I swear a few months ago when I last posted in here this chat wasn't a breeding ground for A words

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xd

shrewd oriole
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SHAHA

crimson basin
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Kk :(

shrewd night
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Valarim

limber lion
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It's like asking if you can play assa without TB

shrewd night
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Stahp

modest oyster
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I DIDN'T SAY IT

shrewd night
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We dont talk about the stone age

modest oyster
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OH

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xd

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the stone age?

solid nova
frozen pecan
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fuckin guitar players

gilded lark
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damn he did his research and everything

shrewd oriole
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You came in at a bad time @modest oyster

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Literally had just had a grill say the game is too easy

shrewd night
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Nefy, its Banjo

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😠

shrewd oriole
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She has eonar m progress btw

modest oyster
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Eonar in 2018

frozen pecan
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ah ye correct banjo players

shrewd oriole
shrewd night
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Fucking yoinked @gusty kestrel

shrewd oriole
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AHA

modest oyster
gilded lark
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WoW in 2018 tbh

modest oyster
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argus btw

frozen pecan
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where did the grill go I liked her

shrewd oriole
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Almost 4 digits in your wr

frozen pecan
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toxic tom's fault that she left

shrewd oriole
shrewd night
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She probably left when she discovered she didnt have any leg to stand on, saying the game was easy, but grayparsed

modest oyster
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graypasred

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gray

shrewd oriole
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Gray

modest oyster
shrewd night
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Oh shi

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Thats cute

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Yoinking that too

shrewd oriole
ionic cypress
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@shrewd oriole i love that you are getting upset about something someone you dont know said, esp a girl

frozen pecan
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she back 😮

modest oyster
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WAIT

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is this said girl?

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🍿

shrewd night
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Yes

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🍿

shrewd oriole
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Me being angry is nothing to do with your gender

frozen pecan
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yes 😍

shrewd oriole
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It’s more so your arrogance

modest oyster
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'esp a girl'

ionic cypress
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i died on eonar and antoran btw... not like that makes much of a diff with my gear

modest oyster
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omegalul

shrewd oriole
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And general lack of experience

ionic cypress
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why do you even care though

shrewd oriole
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Or argument

frozen pecan
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toms ex

shrewd night
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Shes MattB just a version higher

shrewd oriole
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Cuz I’m trolling VR

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Her*

ionic cypress
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i guess this is 2018

gilded lark
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higher in which way shiennar

ionic cypress
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people get pissed about everything

shrewd oriole
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She said the game was easy and weak auras make it easier

ionic cypress
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none they thought i was a dude

shrewd night
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Shes like.. MattC

gilded lark
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like more or less peepoR

shrewd oriole
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MattG

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well Matt

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Well well well

ionic cypress
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Tom, dude, it wasnt meant to make you upset.

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its all good

modest oyster
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wait

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link your logs

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actually

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i need to see this shit

shrewd night
modest oyster
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holy moly

ionic cypress
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oh hes still upset. bummer

shrewd oriole
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I’m not upset

ionic cypress
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rofl

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Try to get the parses you have without WA's or addons then come talk to me. Also... the parses that are showing under best performance average on a lot of mythic raiders profiles are as high as they are because at the time they did that fight, there were way less parses in the pool. Yeah mine are grey but they'd be higher than they are if i had that kill 2 months ago. If you are getting those orange parses now, for many people, it's because you've had months of experience on that fight. I've barely had a 3 raid nights in my entire BRAND NEW mythic raiding career.

shrewd oriole
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I’m just annoyed

gilded lark
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why delet

frozen pecan
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this is too good

shrewd oriole
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Why come here and insult people

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Lmao

ionic cypress
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yeah, upset

shrewd oriole
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Everyone was nice

ionic cypress
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i didnt jesus christ

gilded lark
shrewd oriole
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Giving you advice

modest oyster
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grey on black background, kinda hard to see

shrewd oriole
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And you go like easy game XD

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I like galarim guy

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Valarim*

scarlet mantle
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easy game, dead game

modest oyster
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Mate

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I came in here

shrewd night
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@gaunt moat Stop being gym bunny and clean this shit up

strange python
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which one of you deleted despacito from youtube, I just wanna say thanks

modest oyster
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To get evidence to show my RL he's an A word

shrewd oriole
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You came for the advice

modest oyster
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And you provided

shrewd oriole
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You stayed for the memes

ionic cypress
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you asked why i didnt use weak auras

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did you want me to lie lol

strange python
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oh lord discord drama

shrewd night
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'because the game is ez'

limber lion
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Wait, you don't use weakauras?

shrewd night
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wew lad

limber lion
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Oh shit

frozen pecan
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🍿

shrewd oriole
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If you think the game is easier now

gilded lark
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wait wot

shrewd oriole
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You don’t understand it

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Which is what annoyed me

modest oyster
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@shrewd oriole I live for memes, most people eat breakfast lunch and dinner, me I just feast on memes

scarlet mantle
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no point using wa on a dead game

ionic cypress
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and as i already said, i was speaking of the game as a whole... i know mechanics are much harder

shrewd night
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Stop contradicting yourself

modest oyster
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Wait

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Pmsing

shrewd night
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🤢

modest oyster
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What's your heroic average

frozen pecan
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that doesnt make sense

shrewd oriole
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If mechanics are harder

modest oyster
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If your mythic is that bad

ionic cypress
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yeah what can i say, it was my first on that fight in M

shrewd oriole
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Then isn’t raiding is harder

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Agreed?

ionic cypress
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i never said that it was one thing or the other, you just took it that way

shrewd oriole
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And if raiding is harder the game is harder cuz who the fuck cares if world content is easier

ionic cypress
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EXACTLY who the fuck cares

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chill

shrewd oriole
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M+ certainly isn’t easy

modest oyster
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guys rate my logs

ionic cypress
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nothing i say matters to you 11/11

shrewd oriole
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Só idk what content is easy

astral sundial
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really you guys are the ones being rude - he's only saying he doesn't use it, he thinks stuff is easier, whatever. you are bashing him for his bad logs and bad decsion not using WA...let him be, he didn't ask for advice on how to use it or tried to convince anyone not to

ionic cypress
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so why do you even care what i say

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lol

frozen pecan
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hc logs lul

limber lion
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Rofl Valarim

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74 Coven, 77 Eonar

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:^)

shrewd night
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Assuming genders in 2018 @astral sundial

gaunt moat
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how about we stop having a bigger dick contest for one second

scarlet mantle
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hc logs matters the most

gilded lark
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Notter

gaunt moat
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you all suck

gilded lark
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Nott

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No.

gaunt moat
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and that's a fact.

shrewd oriole
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Lul

modest oyster
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can't smorc in Mythic FeelsBadMan

shrewd oriole
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Blue logs in heroic

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What is this

steep obsidian
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i dont suck

ionic cypress
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rofl dude...

steep obsidian
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I am nice person

gilded lark
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Is dieslick NA or EU

modest oyster
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i haven't pulled coven

shrewd oriole
modest oyster
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since

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December

ionic cypress
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glad im blowin up so much on the internet

frozen pecan
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yeye

gaunt moat
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@shrewd oriole you need to relax now.

frozen pecan
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the excuses

ionic cypress
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i am 952... i am not gonna parse orange on heroic

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overall

frozen pecan
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haha

shrewd night
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Thats what you get when you force yourself to play bleed

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🤷

modest oyster
ionic cypress
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however, as i said, i do for ilvl.... WHICH CLEARLY no one understands

shrewd oriole
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We broke the internet

solid nova
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From start to finish, the entire conversation was a waste of time and my head hurts just trying to comprehend what i've read

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Give it a rest for fucks sake.

shrewd night
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No richard

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😠

faint vale
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I prefered chat this morning when there was actual assa talk and not this trashtalk 😔

gilded lark
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ilevel parses OMEGALUL

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cmon now

frozen pecan
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🍿

shrewd oriole
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@modest oyster why don’t you pull just to get a log

solid nova
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Yes

gaunt moat
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@ionic cypress we usually don't measure ourselves by ilvl

steep obsidian
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see Richard is nice guy we should listen to him

solid nova
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My head hurts

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And theres stupidity everywhere

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Make it stop

modest oyster
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@shrewd oriole because i genuinely don't care about my logs that much

frozen pecan
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richard nice guy omegalul

modest oyster
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i'm just memeing

spare cloud
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HeadPat @solid nova

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its okay

ionic cypress
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@gaunt moat i get that... but i dont see how the overall metric works for the gear i have right now... makes more sense to look at ilvl since i have at least 1k parses for that

solid nova
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@spare cloud Save me Toph

shrewd oriole
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You should use evasion in that headache @solid nova

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On*

shrewd night
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Cant evade aoe Tom

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You know this

spare cloud
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Just feint

shrewd night
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Mental eradication and all

solid nova
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I don't want cheat death for this one

shrewd night
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haHAA

spare cloud
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literally.

solid nova
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I fully embrace it

steep obsidian
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@solid nova the way to do that is to get stupid enough so you don't realise how stupid everyone else is or yourself

gaunt moat
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@ionic cypress i'll explain, one sec

faint vale
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🔨 🔨 🔨 the offtopic!

steep obsidian
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i recommend banging head against wall a few times a day fora few years

shrewd oriole
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@modest oyster ah far enough yeah heroic logs don’t really matter at this point

spare cloud
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Who is Laleo?

shrewd oriole
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Logs as assa are trash either way

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did you get PB?

shrewd night
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Laleo is gud boi

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I like him

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faint vale
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Someone who is disappointed about assa discord

solid nova
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@shrewd oriole Throw me on a jet ski and send me to a distant island pls

steep obsidian
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Mythic logs don't matter either when you are still on progress

spare cloud
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I like how people reminding others about being offtopic

shrewd night
steep obsidian
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people who think they do are idiots

spare cloud
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is actually offtopic as well

limber lion
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@ionic cypress There reason iLvl logs are worthless, is because of the low amount of parses. I just compared your Garothi to mine, there's 2200 970+ parses whereas there's only 55 950+ parses.

spare cloud
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Well the logs do matter in a sense that on early progress you simply need the people to play their class to a level where they do enough dmg

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to kill the boss

shrewd oriole
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@solid nova let’s get on my plane and fly to some distant land

limber lion
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You getting 95% out of those 54 other parses is not a difficult task

steep obsidian
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i meant to say more parse then log

limber lion
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Getting 95% out of 2199 parses, is.

steep obsidian
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when people say log they mean high parse

solid nova
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@shrewd oriole Please, or if you have one of those memory wipers from MIB, I'll take one of those

frozen pecan
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on your plane? @shrewd oriole

solid nova
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Just anything to erase what i've read

spare cloud
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Getting a 95% out of 54 other parses is hard

shrewd oriole
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I mean dps matters a lot in early progress @steep obsidian

frozen pecan
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damn

spare cloud
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because those other people are most likely the ones that play their class the best

steep obsidian
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sure they do Tom

shrewd night
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??

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Are you sure about that toph

limber lion
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The ones at 950 ilvl? Not true whatsoever

spare cloud
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I'm talking progress

shrewd night
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We arent

spare cloud
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if you said smth else I apologize

shrewd night
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wtf

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!?

spare cloud
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I just came

shrewd oriole
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Fights like argus with people not doing optimal dps are impossible on early progress

shrewd night
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Lewd

steep obsidian
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not many guilds do the conent early enough such taht they reach hard dps walls though

shrewd oriole
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Sure

spare cloud
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Yes indeed

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And those guilds that do

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don't public log anyways

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so they dont matter

shrewd oriole
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It’s not good to use a blanket statement to say pushing dps on progress isn’t important

astral sundial
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@ionic cypress I suggest if you want to evaluate your dps, compare the numbers you do to your sim results - you can divide by uptime I guess, but having good uptime is also part of the skill

spare cloud
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It is very important

gaunt moat
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@ionic cypress ilvl parses usualy contain a way smaller subset of the overall players of a spec.
let's say there are 1000 people playing assassination.
maybe only 20% or less of those will be in your particular subset.

out of these small subset, some of them might be alts from really good guilds, which will push their ranking higher probably. as the kill timer will be faster.

so overall, it's not a very good way to measure parses. and so we measure compared to everyone.
i hope this makes it clear.

ionic cypress
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@gaunt moat I mean, I know my overall parses arent amazing, but I am parsing in the top range for my ilvl... so unless im getting all 100's for ilvl then theres not a whole lot more i can do. Until i get better gear, my overall will be the way it is... and as the xpac goes on... its gonna be even harder for me to get good overall% because of how many parses there are now. whatevers on your profile page doesnt change... it shows what your overall was the day that you did that fight

solid nova
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I just dont think you properly understand ilvl parses

steep obsidian
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I'm a take bracers boots and pants off next raid and get full 100% parses for mah ilvl

shrewd oriole
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LUL

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Take a ring off

limber lion
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Your profile shows your highest parse only.

shrewd night
#

^

spare cloud
#

Yeh profile doesnt even consider ilvl

ionic cypress
#

yes, the parse that you had on that day

shrewd night
#

No

limber lion
#

No'

spare cloud
#

it doesn't show ilvl parse until you click on it

gilded lark
limber lion
#

Ever

gaunt moat
#

no, overall all time

ionic cypress
#

WHEN IT WAS THE HIGHEST

solid nova
#

Please just move the conversation to PM.

gilded lark
#

it shows your highest parse of the entire patch.

solid nova
#

Just please

#

I'll pay you

#

Anything

shrewd oriole
#

Never say never

limber lion
#

If you get 95% now

#

You'll still have 95% after 3months

spare cloud
#

Yes

#

Only thing you lose is allstar points

#

but you never lose that rank

shrewd oriole
#

^

spare cloud
#

And the ranking goes down when listed

#

obviously

#

of other people overtake you

ionic cypress
#

yes.

spare cloud
#

but in your profile it shows the ranking you got at the time

#

always

ionic cypress
#

but it does not change off your profile page... like the initial page

spare cloud
#

and it always shows your highest ranking there

ionic cypress
#

yes.

#

thats what im saying

limber lion
#

iLvl rankings are trash because of the low amount of parses. If legitimately interested in improving your parses, you would focus on gearing up first.

ionic cypress
#

lol

limber lion
#

Parse shouldn't be your biggest priority at 950 ilvl

ionic cypress
#

lol.

#

i have 967 in my bags as i said

limber lion
#

what you have in your bags doesn't matter

shrewd oriole
spare cloud
#

Ilvl rankings are trash because you wont sim the same as someone just purely because of ilvl

limber lion
#

What you wear when you fight, does.-

ionic cypress
#

trust me, i have been focusing on that lol

shrewd oriole
#

Here’s how you illustrate that

gilded lark
#

parsing high in ilevel brackets when you're behind the il curve

gaunt moat
#

if you're gonna reply "lol" to everyone, you're not gonna get much respect here

gilded lark
#

is easy as fuck

#

end of story

shrewd oriole
#

Has the hist % and the today’s %

spare cloud
#

Not really

#

Thats also a bullshit thing to say

ionic cypress
#

yo i didnt come in here saying im a god

spare cloud
#

what if you have 980 gear but haste versa only

limber lion
#

Yeah.

spare cloud
#

you wont parse high ilvl with that

shrewd oriole
#

The game is easy

ionic cypress
#

if i did i could get why you guys are saying this, but i didnt

gilded lark
#

behind the il curve toph

shrewd oriole
#

You said the game was easy

gilded lark
#

980

spare cloud
#

Just giving an example

#

okay then

shrewd oriole
#

That’s still condescending

spare cloud
#

960 haste versa only

#

you wont parse as high as someone 960 mastery crit only

gilded lark
#

that kind of adds to my point

spare cloud
#

most likely

shrewd oriole
#

If my friend bakes a really nice cake and I say lol that cake is easy to make

gilded lark
#

you have those people

#

at 960

spare cloud
#

thats why ilvl is bullshit

gilded lark
#

that are haste/vers

#

that you parse against

#

lol

shrewd oriole
#

Can you see how my friend is gonna think I’m an asshole

zealous dew
#

who said cake ?

spare cloud
#

Yeah but if you are the one because you just started playing the character

ionic cypress
#

we arent friends though

shrewd oriole
#

Specially if I have never baked a cake

spare cloud
#

then you are behind

#

so it kinda goes both ways

ionic cypress
#

so why would either of us care

drifting cloud
#

hello im here for the cake

gilded lark
#

if you're 975 you're not likely to have badly itemized gear

zealous dew
#

cake for me as well

gilded lark
#

also there's more people parsing at that level

spare cloud
#

ilvl is just not a good measurement

gaunt moat
#

lol tom you just got rekt :X

shrewd oriole
#

Yep

spare cloud
#

I do have badly itemized gear

#

compared to tom

gilded lark
#

yeah that's my point toph

spare cloud
#

for example

shrewd oriole
#

Guess I did

spare cloud
#

not saying I will parse like him if I had his gear

gilded lark
#

not sure why you're arguing me

zealous dew
#

so there's no cake ?

shrewd oriole
#

No sorry

strange python
#

i have 977 equipped and its not well optimized

modest oyster
#

🍿

zealous dew
#

bah

gilded lark
#

when you're making the same point lol

shrewd night
#

this is what I do
its not optimal
but why would anyone care amirite

spare cloud
#

I thought we were being offensive towards everyone

shrewd night
spare cloud
#

right now

gilded lark
#

idk

#

wanna fight

spare cloud
#

Yeh

shrewd oriole
#

Wanna kiss

spare cloud
#

1v1

gilded lark
#

i'll kick your ass

#

koreaboo

shrewd oriole
spare cloud
#

I'll battle you in a math quiz challenge

shrewd oriole
#

This is my new emote for Jose and notter

gilded lark
#

math WutFace

gaunt moat
#

@ionic cypress i missed the start of the conversation. so if you'd like to repeat for me what was your initial point that got everyone so riled up please?

ionic cypress
#

listen i came here asking for advice on something... people were suggesting stuff and asking stuff... i answered. i didnt come in here saying HEY YOU GUYS THIS GAME IS EASY.

shrewd oriole
#

“Tom call down” “ YESDADDY

ionic cypress
#

i asked about something on imonar

spare cloud
#

What was your question

ionic cypress
#

they answered... were suggesting WA's and stuff

spare cloud
#

I wasnt there

ionic cypress
#

i told them why i dont use weak auras or anything besides DBM

zealous dew
#

if he can cloak the sleepy sleepy

shrewd night
#

Tom: Use a WA
Her: No, he game is easy, and WA makes it easier

fast nacelle
#

nice one. just in time for nice assa discussions again 🍿

shrewd oriole
#

@gaunt moat she said she didn’t use weak auras cuz they made the game easier and she didn’t like how easy it already was

gilded lark
#

dbm isn't a weakaura

shrewd night
#

Then it all went downhill from there

gaunt moat
#

oh

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah

#

Exactly lol

gaunt moat
#

well, can't force people to use tools that help improve.

spare cloud
#

its more of a clusterfuck

shrewd oriole
#

It’s not that

gaunt moat
#

if she wants to have a handicap, so be it

ionic cypress
#

and btw @gaunt moat i didnt say the game was easy or any of that crap at all in the way they are taking it lol

shrewd oriole
#

I don’t care if someone uses was

ionic cypress
#

i dont undestand the butthurtness

shrewd night
#

'in the way they are taking it'

drifting cloud
#

can I blame my bad parses

shrewd night
drifting cloud
#

that I use notters was?

fast nacelle
#

yes

jagged oracle
#

hey guys, whos getting hated and why? o:

shrewd oriole
#

It’s about claiming the game is easy

modest oyster
#

Tom idk if you were trolling now, can I call people A words or not

drifting cloud
#

ty guys

shrewd night
#

Whats to misinterpret from 'the game is easy'

gaunt moat
#

excuse me?

#

you $%#^$%

shrewd oriole
#

@modest oyster no

strange python
#

cant force you to use the steering wheel in your car with your hands since it makes it "too easy" to use so you just drive with your feet

spare cloud
#

I use notters weakauras

modest oyster
#

fs

strange python
#

but your choice i guess

spare cloud
#

thats why I parse bad

fast nacelle
#

yes

steep obsidian
#

to be honest its a trigger point for a lot of raiders, people complaining that shit is too hard and we need things like lfr etc when peopel don't care to even do the small things to improve their performance

gaunt moat
#

ungrateful assholes.

fast nacelle
#

😄

spare cloud
#

@gaunt moat I love you as a person

shrewd oriole
#

@modest oyster the a and the r word are both banned here. Using either will land you a mute

spare cloud
#

I just dont love your creations

shrewd oriole
#

So just don’t

steep obsidian
#

trolling someones parses is fucking the dumbest shit ever though

spare cloud
#

except your guide

#

it helped me when I started

modest oyster
#

what’s the r word

shrewd oriole
#

Retard

gaunt moat
#

fuck off. i get compliments from people about the WAs every day 😠

modest oyster
#

LOL

ionic cypress
#

i clearly didnt specify that i meant the game as a whole is easier.... i didnt know i had to differentiate that from raiding mechanics

modest oyster
#

wtf

ionic cypress
#

lol

strange python
#

D:

modest oyster
#

how are people even offended by that

modest oyster
shrewd oriole
#

Don’t question it

spare cloud
#

Okay sorry notter

shrewd oriole
#

We’ve tried

#

Not a fight worth having

steep obsidian
#

is that rabbit photoshopped

spare cloud
#

if you keep looking like that it will stay that way

#

so don't

gaunt moat
#

no that's me irl

modest oyster
#

Hmm so if I can’t use A or R, how about mongoloid

fast nacelle
#

i think ww2 also just happend cause of notters wa's

strange python
#

^

spare cloud
#

Tyra banned

shrewd oriole
#

Probably not @modest oyster

modest oyster
#

reeeeee

spare cloud
#

R.I.P

shrewd night
#

How did Tyra get b4n?

drifting cloud
#

you just have to use it as an endearing term

#

so basically towards tom its okay

spare cloud
#

I'm gonna take a shower

gilded lark
gaunt moat
#

@ionic cypress but on a serious note.
you should at least check out the WAs pinned in this channel.
or any other WAs.
they give you tools that the game SHOULD have but is lacking.

spare cloud
#

dm for pictures

shrewd oriole
#

@ionic cypress I mean considering raiding (and m+) is the only hard content in this game, when you say the game easier it’s easy to assume you’re referring to raiding

gilded lark
#

you did say the game is easy

fast nacelle
steep obsidian
#

i am now googling pictures of rabbits

shrewd oriole
#

Ahahah

shrewd oriole
#

@gilded lark that’s going in the meme folder for sure

fast nacelle
#

this thing looks like my grandpa

gaunt moat
#

for exmaple, i made the WAs track empowered garrote/rupture when switching targets
the game SHOULD have that feature, but it does not

gilded lark
#

said the game is easy

#

"no i never said it was easy"

#

???

#

get out

shrewd oriole
#

AHAHAHA

gaunt moat
#

there is no other way to track empowered rupture when switching targets that the way i did it

echo estuary
#

wait, this game is not easy?

vivid bone
#

all caught up, damn, what a ride 🍿

solid nova
#

@echo estuary Can i have 7 white russians please, in 1 glass

shrewd oriole
#

Took me 3h to pug hc argus

limber lion
solid nova
#

Gonna off myself

shrewd oriole
#

So I think this game is hard

shrewd night
#

I have so many comments, but I dont want to get banned

ionic cypress
#

it would take me way too long into the reasons i think that

spare cloud
#

White discord WutFace

echo estuary
#

team white takeover

shrewd oriole
#

But the difficulty outside of endgame pve content doesn’t matter

#

Who the fuck cares if it’s easier to level

shrewd night
#

They just nerfed that

#

Get out tom

#

😠

shrewd oriole
#

Oh wow it’s easier to level now than it was in vanilla

shrewd night
#

Stay with the times

shrewd oriole
#

This game is so easy lol

ionic cypress
#

why did you even put that much thought into what i said @shrewd oriole

gilded lark
#

White discord

shrewd oriole
#

@ionic cypress you should put more thought into what you say

strange python
#

bc youre contradicting yourself @ionic cypress ?

ionic cypress
#

im still waiting for a good explanation on why you are so upset

gaunt moat
#

@shrewd oriole okay, i'm gonna warn you now. stop.

#

we get it

shrewd night
#

Toms getting warned

#

wat

echo estuary
#

@solid nova my bar is kind of empty

fast nacelle
#

legion is for casuals. only vanilla was hard. ~f0kdamum2001

solid nova
#

My soul is empty

frozen pecan
#

thanks for the entertainment tom ❤

fast nacelle
#

sometimes i browse through wowservers (reddit for privat servers)
and im wondering how people with the tag "1998" know how good vanilla was

marble hemlock
#

@gusty kestrel can you be a god when only 1 person believes in your religion, and that is yourself? 🤔

gilded lark
#

so now here's the thing

shrewd night
#

You know, its been a while since Ive had a meme-name

#

So let me introduce you to

gilded lark
#

"why put so much thought into what i said"

shrewd oriole
#

@fast nacelle tbh I’m 98 and I played tbc

gilded lark
#

interesting

shrewd night
#

Ishyaboi

vivid bone
#

Haha

fast nacelle
#

there is a difference between playing and playing

gilded lark
#

i mean should we not think about the questions that hit this channel and just answer blindly lol

marble hemlock
#

what are the initiation rites?

gilded lark
#

give me a break

shrewd oriole
#

I raided in tbc

#

But yeah that’s true

ionic cypress
#

im not upset about him giving advice to me at all... hes upset because i told him why i dont use certain things lol

fast nacelle
#

there is also a difference between tbc and vanilla

gaunt moat
#

@shrewd night i suggest you change that

vivid bone
#

Lol wat

ionic cypress
#

im totally fine with you guys elaborating on your reasonings

shrewd oriole
#

TBC was a lot more player friendly than vanilla

shrewd night
#

pft

#

@gaunt moat

shrewd oriole
#

From what I understand

marble hemlock
#

once we finally kill argoose ill do alacrity parses, i promise

frozen pecan
#

you raided as a 9 year old @shrewd oriole ?

drifting cloud
#

Tom is just a casual havent been playing wow for atleast 13 years LOL GET GUD

shrewd oriole
#

So I’m glad I got into the game in tbc

frozen pecan
#

tbc bt and sunwell were pretty hard

shrewd oriole
#

@frozen pecan yeah lol in my cousins guild

#

I didn’t speak on vent

shrewd night
#

Cant have meme names, check!

shrewd oriole
#

For obvious reasons

limber lion
#

ah Ventrilo was the shit

marble hemlock
#

why? people wouldve thought you are a girl and given you free stuff

frozen pecan
#

what did you raid in tbc?

echo estuary
#

where's the fast thonk's at? when we need them the most

modest oyster
#

Tom can I say Nazi

vivid bone
#

You always had meme names before @shrewd night

strange python
#

@ionic cypress youre mentioned b4 that youre 950 ish ilvl and youre 4/11 m antorus rn? you should get higher ilvl if you clear normal/ heroic each week + do m+ and weakauras will help you 100% in performing / keeping debuffs on track etc, you dont need them but if youre not performing insanely good id look into them

shrewd oriole
#

What cha mean what did I raid

frozen pecan
#

did you raid the whole content

shrewd oriole
#

You asking what did I clear?

#

I didn’t clear sunwell

ionic cypress
#

dud. never gotten a free thing in this game in my life for a reason.

frozen pecan
#

ye

shrewd night
#

@vivid bone Then one day I got force-changed to this, and apparantly its not allowed anymore

ionic cypress
#

also @strange python ive been doing that for months lol

frozen pecan
#

you cleared bt tho at the age of 9? lol

gaunt moat
#

i got pumped with tier-set first week
ez parses 😄

shrewd oriole
#

Yeah lol

#

I mean obviously super late

frozen pecan
#

lol that's cool

marble hemlock
#

BT wasnt that hard though

shrewd oriole
#

Guild was shit but eventually we just out geared it

drifting cloud
#

yeah BT was pretty potato

frozen pecan
#

bt wasn't easy tho

marble hemlock
#

unless you were rushing it and had to buy off mats to craft shadowres gear for the brothel-mum

frozen pecan
#

it was easy after they nerfed it

shrewd oriole
#

Bt wasn’t hard tbh

#

Well yeah

strange python
#

@quasi condorsing can u dm me what your char name was? bc im curious on how much m+ keys you played bc usually if u do your weekly shit + m+ you should get ilvl insanely fast, i pushed a shaman twink from 915 to 960 ish within 1 week on mythic + and heroic antorus

#

@ionic cypress above msg was for u

shrewd oriole
#

It’s dieslick @strange python

frozen pecan
#

saying bt was easy is pretty stupid since they had to nerf it so guilds could clear it lol

shrewd oriole
#

Dunno

ionic cypress
#

i have 967 in my bags lol... unfortunately its not a lazyness problem

shrewd oriole
#

I was like 10

#

Wtf do I know

marble hemlock
#

they nerfed wotlk naxx, doesnt mean it was too hard

frozen pecan
#

true lol

drifting cloud
#

yeah but those nerfs came in relatively early iirc

shrewd oriole
#

Had a blast playing the game tho

vivid bone
#

That's what matters Tom

drifting cloud
#

not like they nerfed it 5months later

shrewd oriole
#

Cleared everything in wrath but icc was up for like 14 months so

frozen pecan
#

ye playing wow the first year was something else

shrewd oriole
#

Then in cats I started playing more

#

And in mop I went to halcyon

frozen pecan
#

tbc got me addicted

vivid bone
#

Origin story of @shrewd oriole

shrewd night
#

H A L C Y omegaLUL N

echo estuary
#

widow main here, why do them plebs keep telling me to switch, every game 😦

shrewd oriole
#

Halcyon was a good guild fuck off 😠

#

T y l e r OMEGALUL

marble hemlock
#

well, kalecgos/sathrovarr was way more difficult than anything in bt combined, but thats just my opinion

#

the trash leading up to it had people wipe more often than most of the bt bosses

shrewd oriole
#

Legion was the first break I took from the game

#

Since tbc

shrewd night
#

Plan B, always in Vanguards shadow

drifting cloud
#

yeah recleraring sunwell trash was fun

shrewd night
#

Ehehehehehe

drifting cloud
#

great design

shrewd oriole
#

Rip

marble hemlock
#

i miss those 2hr respawns on trash

shrewd oriole
#

Plan b had a lot of mistakes

echo estuary
#

what are you on about i'm a beast

frozen pecan
#

@marble hemlock sunwell was the hardest raid hands down

echo estuary
#

every plat player belongs in GM at least thats common knowledge

marble hemlock
#

wouldnt say the hardest

shrewd oriole
#

Tyler is an amazing rl and person (there’s a good chance he’s gonna live with me just so you know I consider him almost family)

#

But he wasn’t in a good place in his life

shrewd night
#

Lies

#

LIES

marble hemlock
#

but the jump from bt to sunwell was pretty big

shrewd oriole
#

During wod and most of legion

shrewd night
#

If you are living with Tyler, Im coming to visit

#

Mostly for him

shrewd oriole
#

So the quality of the guild went downhill

shrewd night
#

Not for you

shrewd oriole
#

Dude please do

#

Ahah

frozen pecan
#

@marble hemlock what raid in tbc would you concider harder? tempest?

shrewd oriole
#

Where are you from shiennar?

shrewd night
#

I cant say, else I destroy the guild meme

marble hemlock
#

oh in tbc itself sunwell was definitely the hardest content, yeah

shrewd oriole
#

I thought sunwell was really hard

shrewd night
#

@hexed ferry is watching

shrewd oriole
#

@shrewd night rip

echo estuary
#

mimiron hardmode prenerf 11/10 hard

frozen pecan
#

@marble hemlock ye was talkin tbc only ^^

hexed ferry
#

Wtf

shrewd oriole
#

Oh I did a lot of arenas too nefy

shrewd night
#

Go back to your shit game @hexed ferry

marble hemlock
#

muru was a pain in the ass numbers-wise and more rng than anything else in p2

shrewd oriole
#

Imagine getting beaten by a 9 year old @frozen pecan

#

Lul

marble hemlock
#

so its wasnt necessarily a difficult boss, just an exhausting one

hexed ferry
#

Which one?

shrewd night
#

Iunno, Runescape

frozen pecan
#

@shrewd oriole haha, ye I played alot of arena back then aswell, pvp was fun back then

solid nova
#

Maxed btw

echo estuary
#

sell rune scim 30k fast

fast nacelle
#

muru was nightmare. always overaggro as wl

hexed ferry
#

Wtf i havent played that in ages

shrewd oriole
#

Nowadays the younger kids I see raiding in wow are like 16

shrewd night
#

hence, the go back

marble hemlock
#

i mean aggro was the hardest part of the fight tbh ;D

frozen pecan
#

@shrewd oriole what class did you play?

shrewd oriole
#

Wow is not a game that really appeals to those younger kids that much anymore

#

@frozen pecan rogue and hunter

fast nacelle
#

yea muru was all about aggro

marble hemlock
#

and getting lucky on the cast-pushbacks on your healers

frozen pecan
#

@shrewd oriole rogue since the beginning, I like that

marble hemlock
#

and getting lucky on not getting 4 consecutive shadows hits in p2 or you were dead

shrewd oriole
#

Was a male belf rogue

frozen pecan
#

haha me to

shrewd night
#

Ew

shrewd oriole
#

Called skyline or some dumb shit

shrewd night
#

Skyline sounds incredibly familiar

shrewd oriole
#

You’ve said that before

#

Imagine if we raided together

frozen pecan
#

probably got rekt by him in arena

shrewd oriole
#

I only left the skyline name in mop

frozen pecan
#

shiennar downed by a 9 year old lul

shrewd oriole
#

In mop onwards I go by either tom or Mathila

#

Mostly Mathila

#

The origin of that name is awful

echo estuary
#

tom fake girl?

gilded lark
#

mathil thinkW

shrewd oriole
#

Nah it was my sisters rogue

drifting cloud
#

did you just assume his gender

gilded lark
#

tom mathilification confirmed

vivid bone
#

Tomboy

shrewd oriole
#

I started playing her rogue instead of mine

marble hemlock
#

lul

shrewd oriole
#

Cuz of the server

#

In the begging of mop

#

I was in a dead server

#

Emerald dream

shrewd night
#

Oh thank fuck

shrewd oriole
#

She was on kazzak

#

So I started playing her rogue

marble hemlock
#

is your sister hot?

shrewd night
#

She is

frozen pecan
#

lul

shrewd night
#

Ive seen her

astral sundial
#

confusing when US and EU have same server names..

strange python
#

anybody in here have any expierence with gambit on thrall?

marble hemlock
#

i mean comeone guys, at this point were all thinking it

shrewd oriole
#

I can’t answer that Q

strange python
#

i was

gilded lark
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even the lurkers wanna know if toms sister is hot

frozen pecan
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did you still pvp in mop tom?

shrewd oriole
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She’s a cool person tho

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Nah I didn’t pvp ever since bc

strange python
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@gusty kestrel rate from 1- 10?

marble hemlock
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depends on whether you want to talk about the m+ people in gambit or the raiding population :x

strange python
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@gusty kestrel any reasoning for that?

frozen pecan
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mop pvp was fun when you had t2 weapons lul

shrewd oriole
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Well that’s a lie I’ve been trying to get back into pvp nowadays

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But that’s it

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Was pve only from wrath onwards

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Till last week

fast nacelle
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im too bad for using arena frame makros nowadays

marble hemlock
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fairly sure they raid more during first two IDs

fast nacelle
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so i dont pvp anymore

marble hemlock
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the gambit m+ people are pretty nice though

echo estuary
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arena frame macros? wut

strange python
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other offer i have is untitled spreedsheat theyre 54 world but also 5+ days :/

fast nacelle
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arena target 1-3

shrewd night
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Went to a PVP realm, been having fun ganking beside elite WQs

marble hemlock
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lul

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dont go untitled

fast nacelle
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untitled zergsheat :o)

echo estuary
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just keybind it in keybinds

shrewd oriole
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I love ganking noob

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Rogue shoulders are so broken

marble hemlock
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yeah

echo estuary
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but you can prob. get away with tab targeting, just make sure its players only

fast nacelle
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its funny how many german guilds went full nuts in antorus

frozen pecan
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yeah shoulders are stupid in wpvp

marble hemlock
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thats not entirely true

fast nacelle
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"fun raids" on weekends 1pm

marble hemlock
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thats how most german guilds have always operated

fast nacelle
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with mains

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raiding 5-6 days as 3-4 day guild

warm parcel
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jeez 1k messages

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tldr

fast nacelle
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calling it "well 20 friends gathered wasnt real raid doe"

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:^)

shrewd oriole
marble hemlock
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and since the leadership of most of the big guilds never changes, they just re-build new guilds, they never change either

shrewd oriole
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@warm parcel

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That’s the tldr weak

thorn pasture
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worth running cloak in keys or always same legendary combo?

shrewd oriole
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@thorn pasture bracers shoulders

frozen pecan
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German guilds always did pretty well in progress

strange python
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damn i mean since im currently world 1400 only either gambit or the other one would be a huge jump but no lifing that hard doesnt seem too nice

echo estuary
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people still click in 2018?

marble hemlock
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thats because they put in insane hours

strange python
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best 3 day guild that msgd me was world 270ish or sth

shrewd oriole
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German... efficiency ?

shrewd night
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Why no life when you can get W300 guilds doing two raids a week

marble hemlock
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only good german guild ever was refuge

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imo

fast nacelle
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lmao

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nice one..

shrewd oriole
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Rip northern sky

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Or whatever it’s called

marble hemlock
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they didnt spend 12h a day smashing their heads against the wall like most of the others

fast nacelle
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nah we sucked last content but thats fine

frozen pecan
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@marble hemlock Affenjungs inc.

strange python
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yeah im on frostwolf so im familiar with refuge

marble hemlock
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hahahah

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damn, i spat out my drink

strange python
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affenjungs were semi *special needs in siege of oggrimar

frozen pecan
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they did pretty well back in the day

shrewd night
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Edit that

fast nacelle
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irae aod, why me, genuine

marble hemlock
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what do you mean pretty well

strange python
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oops

frozen pecan
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what do you mean?

marble hemlock
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raiding 12h a day for 2 weeks to barely hit top10 world

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is not doing well

strange python
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changed it

fast nacelle
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everything pre wotlk/cata cant be called good

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since it was so casual

steep obsidian
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I remember SK gaming used to stream speed clears of Sunwell Plateau in TBC with like nerdy casting and shit

fast nacelle
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beside maybe sunwell sk gaming

steep obsidian
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MDI 10 years ahead of its time

fast nacelle
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and nihilum

frozen pecan
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they used to be the top german guild lol

marble hemlock
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yeah

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as i said

strange python
marble hemlock
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german "top" guilds never changed because their leaders never changed

steep obsidian
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oh iremember the races in wrath at lans with nihlium they did that at some blizzcons too

strange python
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that would be the 3d guild

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that was semi decent

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compared to the shitshow i am in rn LUL

shrewd oriole
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You could try

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Writing some apps

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Instead of sitting on wowp waiting for offers

frozen pecan
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ye but how are affenjungs bad in your opinion lol

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doesnt make sense

shrewd night
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If your cast-sequence and logs arent gray you might just get in with a good app

fast nacelle
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affenjungs werent bad

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but content was easy