with the spicy kpop gifs
#assassination
sharp viper
toph instantly recognizes a fellow koreaboo
sharp viper
léon the professional in english my fellow deutschwurst
lethal heart
argus is rngfiesta
spare cloud
Yeh
lethal heart
but well it is what it is
sharp viper
and it's a french movie afaik
strange python
nicu got a guild offer 😮
civic palm
Nice!
strange python
going from world 1400 to world 50 😄
spare cloud
sharp viper
what you do on this discord when you give wrong information is get promoted to shadowblade
solid nova
The size of that image hahaha
strange python
untitled spreadsheet
strange python
not good? 😮
sharp viper
@solid nova i take donations to buy discord nitro
sharp viper
sounds like a lot of fun
sharp viper
how many hours per day?
shrewd oriole
Hmm
strange python
i mean im looking for raid for 3h by now
solid nova
shrewd oriole
How many alts?
spare cloud
I dont know, I just know they extend a lot
strange python
and thats my best one + they would pay for shit
spare cloud
a good lot
strange python
1 alt
spare cloud
never raided there
shrewd oriole
1 alt isn’t terrible
sharp viper
one alt is fine for now
strange python
i mean im currently in a 9/11 guild
strange python
and on lfg but with 97% mythic average logs so i get decent offers
spare cloud
I wouldn't enjoy to raid 7 days
strange python
but i want to kms if i have to deal with more aggra wipes and ppl not coming for raids
sharp viper
7x4+ hours of raid
solid nova
@spare cloud is that 7 days during first week then down to 5?
spare cloud
Yes
solid nova
My German sucks
sharp viper
are they paying you cause that shit sounds like a job
solid nova
That's shocking
sharp viper
idd richard
spare cloud
wait
THAT
their current content was their best recent one
thats what I meant to say.
sharp viper
just look at how fast they killed the harder bosses in atbt
strange python
yeah it is
spare cloud
but then again
solid nova
You'll be in a pit of depression by week 4
shrewd oriole
World 50 or w/e 7 Days day raiding
spare cloud
still a huge step from 1400 to 50
sharp viper
if people enjoy that
shrewd oriole
spare cloud
You can develop there well
strange python
i mean its my current best offer 😦 and from 1400 its a giant diffrence
shrewd oriole
Idd
spare cloud
get used to some actual mythic raiding
shrewd oriole
It’s An amazing stepping stone
strange python
and i feel like my "potential" is super wasted in a shit guild
solid nova
Take CE and find a better schedule
shrewd oriole
Can easily go from that guild to a good top 100 guild
spare cloud
I've been raiding german since the beginning of wod
spare cloud
are there even any good portu guilds?
sharp viper
you are raiding in a full german raid?
shrewd oriole
Lemme check
spare cloud
Yes
sharp viper
is the raid caller calling shit in german or denglisch?
strange python
most of the time a rl calls shit in english
spare cloud
Yeh
solid nova
TEMPO
strange python
even in german guilds
turbid harbor
some of the german ability names are funny
spare cloud
because nobody knows the german ability names
sharp viper
german is just too slow to call shit out
spare cloud
ICH KANN DAS NICHT WIRKEN
strange python
yeah
shrewd oriole
spare cloud
DIESER ZAUBER IST NOCH NICHT BEREIT
shrewd oriole
Nvm it’s shit
solid nova
What's the German name for crit?
sharp viper
and german ability names are too long
solid nova
I'm pretty sure it sounds great
shrewd oriole
Highest ranked Portuguese guild isn’t even top 100
sharp viper
KRITISCHER TREFFER
shrewd oriole
Lmao
spare cloud
Kritische Trefferwertung
spare cloud
and then swapped again fairly quickly
I cant ping that originality guy
doesnt find him for some reason
when I search
strange python
bc im with the autism
sharp viper
dead realms op
strange python
spelling
spare cloud
Oh
sharp viper
right click him and "mention"
strange python
😄
shrewd oriole
Ok
spare cloud
yah well I swapped fairly quickly after i made my huge jump
shrewd oriole
Anyone else wants heroic?
sharp viper
@spare cloud
civic palm
I am just waiting out Classic to take raiding serious.
spare cloud
stuck with my guild ever since
strange python
im fairly hyped for a better guild since currently i was hard carrying a semi shitty guild
civic palm
/s
sharp viper
yeah back when raiding was actually hard
shrewd oriole
Hpriest in vanilla
strange python
im lfg for 3h now and got like 30ish adds for now but a lot of shit
shrewd oriole
Dude
spare cloud
Yeh
strange python
if they turn out to be the best option ill go for them
sharp viper
you had to be good to know all the complex raid mechanics and still perform your rotation flawlessly
shrewd oriole
Wait like 5 Days
civic palm
Onyxia's breath is far more complex than people gave it credit for.
spare cloud
I got my best option after 2 hours
shrewd oriole
Rly?
spare cloud
Yeh
strange python
i mean ill wait until tmrw evening
strange python
and then have a test raid on wednesday reset
spare cloud
german#3
civic palm
Like something better is just fall into your lap like the most recent one did?
strange python
where did u go afterwards @spare cloud ?
spare cloud
I was in Unic
joined In Flagranti
then went to Northern Sky in the end of HFC
and here I am still
stuck with Tyra now
civic palm
Oh God the guild names > ,<
strange python
okay, ill see what kind of adds ill get after i head to sleep and go to uni tmrw
civic palm
👋
civic palm
hmmm
spare cloud
@shrewd oriole You coming?
shrewd oriole
yeah
spare cloud
Dont tell anyone from untitled about this convo though
shrewd oriole
turning pc on
spare cloud
civic palm
_>
strange python
LUL
spare cloud
angry because other people are smart enough to earn money with desk jobs
civic palm
Just gotta... struggle through it.
safe matrix
could be considered the worst
safe matrix
People weren't rolling on it either
cause we had no idea
if it would even be good at that ilvl
neat saffron
Haste just sux balls for us.
spare cloud
No
strange python
also from blackhand so i thought
strange python
behind u i think?
nimble tartan
monkaS
safe matrix
FeelsNAMan
its okay though, I know you'd never want a shitter like me anyways ._.
atleast I'd get a pity invite
civic palm
_>
grizzled trail
what trinkets do u guys use for mythic+, aoe trinkets or single target
strange python
on st boss -> eoc if u have it and its high
otherwise hound trinket
- pantheon obv
on aoe either high rolled glaive , seat trinket or kingaroth trinket are playable
honest pelican
5% mage tower, i gotta take a nap been up for 2 days
shrewd oriole
grizzled trail
for aoe
shrewd oriole
dont use glaives and void stalkers as assa
thats trash
pantheon is great for aoe
bis is double mastery stat stick
kingaroth trinket btw 
what originality said is plain wrong
spare cloud
sin in aoe btw 
strange python
i mean obv that was meant for sub
on trash youre not playing sin woops
*trash heavy keys
honest pelican
first trinket i got was a LFR forgefiend and it simmed higher then some random 920 normal tos one
i guess cuz mastery
willow cypress
Is there such thing as too much mastery? im siting at 201% with 31%crit
dire spoke
drifting cloud
boys check this out
my relics vs guildies
I have 18 more weapon ilvl
nlc is fine 👌
drifting cloud
🤡
plain thistle
@shrewd oriole tol barad is what? BR or latino?
some guild names are portuguese, must be a BR realm
manic vigil
strange python
Everyone here so ugly
supple hearth
🤔
trim dirge
rude
shrewd oriole
supple hearth
imagine being able to magically know how people look through the interwebs.
what a power
plain thistle
LOL
supple hearth
rekt
strange python
Is it like really
shrewd oriole
OFc
strange python
@shrewd oriole
shrewd oriole
I'm a 10 year old girl irl
strange python
U so ugly Tom ewwww
shrewd oriole
thank you
iron sierra
hi friends
void pecan
I'm not your friend pal
supple hearth
@strange python try to keep the memeing in #off-topic tysm
iron sierra
just had footpads drop, and according to simc my DPS does not change replacing cinidaria with the boots
anyone care to take a closer look?
iron sierra
i have a 945 belt and 945 boots
to replace either one
i figured the footpads would be better, but simc says otherwise
supple hearth
Sims are usually pretty accurate.
iron sierra
any thoughts on specific antorus fights to use pads rather than belt?
supple hearth
he's got one more chance
iron sierra
i'm also paired with bracers as 1st legendary
supple hearth
@strange python keep it in #off-topic
wise frigate
But mooooom
supple hearth
!mute @strange python
shrewd oriole
rip lmao
iron sierra
i just don't really see how the belt can be better
maybe on vari?
i'm only dropping 100 mastery
void pecan
I'd just use boots then
iron sierra
that's what i'm leaning towards. second opinions anyone?
shrewd oriole
link your sim
iron sierra
appreciate the help doods
shrewd oriole
was worth it
tranquil birch
what does that emote even mean
civic palm
honest pelican
um wtf, that was worse mage tower then WW monk/bm hunter
all that
i think i even got hit by the valkyr once, but didnt go below 90%
i feinted like 3 times total, i didnt even kidneyshot bladestorm
my flask still is at 54 minutes
supple hearth
Nah ww was a million times easier. But sin challenge is close behind it in easyness
fast nacelle
lol @civic palm good one
neat orbit
is golganneths still good for m+?
crimson knoll
It's a pretty major agility stat stick
Though there are better. Just depends on what you have / what you're willing to farm for.
onyx falcon
golganeths is good since its a huge agi stat stick and does AoE damage with a decent proc rate
fervent beacon
Which one is WW @supple hearth
Might need to do it before the expansion if I'm going to switch my main to monk
neat saffron
I got my chalenge skin finally, woot1
Hated that fucking challenge
Sweet skin though
wise frigate
Ayy. Perks of being a shitty heroic boi trialing in a mythic guild with a nice council is they give me lots of upgrades. Got tier chest to replace my heroic one.
gaunt moat
rip not being called to the be part of the "Battle for Azeroth Community Opinions" :(
when some of the points there are things i raised concerns about
neat saffron
Does anyone on alpha know how Sin is looking?
vapid moth
Golganeths shouldn't be considered aoe damage imo
solid nova
@shrewd oriole Can't decide if its trolling, stupidity of just arrogance through lack of experience 🤷
vivid bone
why can't it be all of the above
shrewd night
In regards to?
vivid bone
No clue
frozen pecan
esketit
fiery nest
quick ice
7 melee is almost ok if one of them is feral.
prime void
I think we had 6
Really wasnt bad
I could see it being really hard when you first start tho
shrewd night
I think we roll with.. Four.
prime void
I mean, I'd prefer that. Lol
shrewd night
Ive only progged with four, but I can already imagine how aids is when you nearly double that
cold spoke
6-7 is ok
faint vale
Had 7 on progress. Went ok. But took some time till positioning was sorted and how to handle each scenario
cold spoke
we usually aim for 6 but i think we killed it with 7 once or twice
glad garden
On the weekly chest if you do anything higher than a +15 does it change the loot in it or it stays the same after +15 all the way up to +20
open reef
morning
glad garden
morning
glad garden
/flex for you indeed
shrewd night
Ninja, no matter what you do over 15, you still get a 960 with chance to furhter titanforge. The only thing that changes is that you get a chance for more loot in the dungeon itself
zealous dew
you get more AP (lol)
zealous dew
who do I have to pay to play this freaking alpha
frozen pecan
broadsides being a dick as usual lul
vivid bone
I wouldn't use it either if I got it.
zealous dew
all the freaking alts social useless players in my guild have it
flat pier
REEEEEEEEE rip fucking cloak
faint vale
Sad and amusing how blizzard decided to give keys to random people who don't even want to play alpha, rather then to high end guilds who are burning to get their feets into alpha
flat pier
Yikes assin is looking rather dire and i hope they change it no way in hell am i playing Outlaw
vivid bone
But but, they don't want useful feedback, don't you get that?
shrewd night
Like, the only reason Id get alpha is to get speedlevel routes, other than that 🤷
Besides, feedback for class moaning and damage whining is in beta anyways
vivid bone
Meh, I'd be spoiling stuff for myself
hidden pawn
hey guys i have a quick question.. for mythic + where there are a lot of adds what trinket would you use? is golgannoth any good?
especially with teeming
faint vale
High glaive, fang, golg, really high mastery stat stick are good
zealous dew
mastery stick if you have it high
on may mobs mastery if worth really a lot
you can sim 20s 40s 5/7+ targets and find it yourself
faint vale
Voidstalker from seat is also ok. Not sure about the name tho. The one where you summon 2 elementals(?)
zealous dew
voidstalker ?
faint vale
Yes
prime void
Golg on aoe
faint vale
But as always I recommend sub over assa for m+.
prime void
Lol?
faint vale
Agility makes it worth
hidden pawn
thanks 😃
hidden pawn
i dont
i have unstable arcanocrystal golganneths seeping scourgewing gorshalachs and forgefiends
how good arcanocrystal is makes me want to puke
stark heart
what is the problem with cloak being 2min?
it's still powerful
even more than before if they reduce number of immunes among classes
faint vale
Of the trinkets you named i'd go with arcano and golg
cold spoke
people said rip cloak when it went from 1min to 1,5min so
gaunt moat
i think it's somewhat of a problem
rogue "raid utility" is defined in it's survivability (aka: cheese mechanics)
you nerf that
you take away from that utility
stark heart
it's still powerful af
gaunt moat
so this leads to either not relying on rogues
OR
bringing more rogues
stark heart
and you forget about context
cold spoke
cloak been 2min cd during dragon soul and noone complained
stark heart
the less immunes there are the more valuable each of them become
we still hold unique "cheese" which is feint
we still can cheat death
gaunt moat
it depands on how the fights will be designed as well.
like, if we get something like avatar of sargeras... short cloak was invaluable there
stark heart
still can immune magic even if on a longer CD
cold spoke
thats not a good design tho @gaunt moat
remember that on avatar and kj you had like 5 rogues party
stark heart
for avatar it was more about vial dr trait + feint
sure cloak helped during last phase
gaunt moat
it's not, we'll have to see what the new raid will be like
cold spoke
rogues need to be strong soaker, but you can't just go overboard
stark heart
and like le'ts be honest
cold spoke
2mins is more than enough
stark heart
our survivability is kinda op
cold spoke
even feint on 15s cd is no issue
stark heart
1.5 min to 2 min cloak is not really gonna change it
gaunt moat
i dunno, paladins also have cheat death, shaman have self-res...
rogues are better, but not 10 times better
stark heart
why do we need to be 10 times better?
cold spoke
and you have to port out constantly to proving grounds to reset it
stark heart
ankh is not a surv cd
gaunt moat
in my opinion, if you take away the weakness debuff from rogue
AT LEAST make sure the survivability is truly OP
stark heart
like really
gaunt moat
cause that's the only thing they bring to raid
gaunt moat
i think the cloak nerf was uneccesary, is all.
cold spoke
you forgot about rly good dps, like always
stark heart
also we still hold st stun, kick
cold spoke
rogue has maybe 2 tiers in whole game of being mediocre dps
gaunt moat
can't really say how DPS gonna play out for next expansion
though i assume it will be fine
cold spoke
its always fine for rogues, always good pick
quartz rune
New sin mastery seems nice
gaunt moat
but if you say DPS is what rogues brings, than it should be above any other class.
cause again, no true utility/debuff
stark heart
no utility?
cold spoke
rogue bring everything to the raid
gaunt moat
i also said that the survivability is not 10 times better, so i don't consider it something only a rogue can do
cold spoke
you'd be surprised lol
stark heart
it's something we do the best out of all classes
in general
how is that not enough?
dusty wigeon
first assass leggo i get is Kj's -_-
gaunt moat
5% extra physical damage, only a WW brings
chessing a mehcnaics... a rogue can do best.... but maybe another class can also do.
stark heart
feint is truly unique thing because not a single class has AoE reduction
and spammable DR if you want
gaunt moat
exactly hayde!
AS OFTEN
so that's what i'm saying
it was unecessary to nerf cloak
stark heart
Brm can do 5% extra dps
cold spoke
2mins is way shorter than everyone else immunity
stark heart
it's class specific not spec iirc
cold spoke
rest are 3mins
gaunt moat
also i liked that sin had shorter cloak duration than other specs.
now that's gone =/
cold spoke
crimson vial is biggest clown ability
gaunt moat
anyway, my opinion is basically
if you say survivability is the utility
the LESAT you can do, is at least not nerf it.
stark heart
well survavibility is the utility doesn't mean that surv has to be op like it is now
¯_(ツ)_/¯
those are not mutually exclusive things
gaunt moat
to me it does mean that
cold spoke
2min cd*
you can't have that big survival, why would you bring any other melee but rogue
if you legit can't die
gaunt moat
they bring their own utility
stark heart
other melee should bring something cool as well
cold spoke
melee is pretty boring on its own, its hard to give them something
thats not passive or rallying cry alike spell
stark heart
surv is not the only utility there is
cold spoke
i hoped for skull banner / stormlash 😦
cold spoke
yeah shaman just dies 
stark heart
rallying cry just needs to be better than what it is
maybe something like Kuunka in dota
small dr and stagger like effect
like 10% damage reduction and rest of the damage is taken as 10 seconds dot
wise frigate
Yeah bear druid has a trait, but it only affects them. Gives the bear more MS for each target hit up to 5.
grizzled trail
need two decent mastery stat sticks for mythic+ trash, however im unsure where to get any. any advice? 😃
zealous dew
relinquished gambling, maiden for eoe
solid nova
M+, Glaives, Contract, As Shantal said, Reliquished farming
Doesnt have to be mastery stat stick
There are better alternatives
grizzled trail
oh really? asked that yesterday and the responce was that those trinkets arent very good for assass
cause thats what ive been using to this point
shrewd night
Bruh
Like
Those trinkets are trashtier, for everything BUT trash.
Hence the differentiation between trash-trinkets and ST-best in slot trinkets
solid nova
Well we're talking about trash trinkets so
shrewd night
Exactly
asked that yesterday and the responce was that those trinkets arent very good for assass
solid nova
Wait
Im with you fam
Misread what you were saying Shien, thought you were meaning my recommendations were bad
Been at work since 5am 😅
shrewd night
Sounds like something Id do at this time in the morning tbh
Havent had my proper coffee yet
Coulda happened!
grizzled trail
right cool so im good with those trickets then just use my usual ones for single target
grizzled trail
what about cleave boss fights? better with stat sticks for them?
grizzled trail
Umbral moonglaives (900) Void stalkers contract (975) Golganetths vitality (1000) shadow singed fang (955) and kiljadens burning wish really
zealous dew
lolz
solid nova
Just out of interest
grizzled trail
trying to farm eye of command
solid nova
Apart from EoC
zealous dew
void + go + trash, ssf + go for st
solid nova
What else do you need to farm? lol
grizzled trail
apparently nothing is what ur telling me? 😛
zealous dew
da fok 975
grizzled trail
yeh got it last night lol
solid nova
Gorg and ssf for bosses
Gorg and 975 contract for trash
Literally you'll do more than fine with that
Like, idk why you'd think you needed otherwise
grizzled trail
ah ok ive thought glaives for trash
solid nova
900 glaives or 975 contract?
solid nova
You can use both, I've used them together
Just felt i got more out of gorg + contract
grizzled trail
right cool. ill try both. thanks for the help guys
zealous dew
yup, glaives 900 dmg is very minimal unless you vanish into it
solid nova
Back to afking now - 5-5 day 🙃
zealous dew
now i'm curious and simming 😃
solid nova
@ me what you find
I want to know too 😄
At least i can find it later if i dont get it straight away
solid nova
That is surprising
zealous dew
now 7 bosses 20s
shrewd night
although TECHNICALLY if you want to minmax
Youd use glaives, then vanish into infernal contract
solid nova
I love it when you talk minmax 😩
zealous dew
😄
you can use cloak with glaives then vanish into contract bracers
more minimaxing
solid nova
See, we can be informative. Text I enjoy reading, feelsgoodman.
zealous dew
i just hate having 30s internal cd on trinket swap
i mean, boy come on 30s
make it 15s pls
solid nova
I mean at least in Showguns case, the 900 glaives would still be less than 975 contract
But looking at that, only marginally
zealous dew
let me try
solid nova
Hell it might even be better, it's going to be close that's for sure
Yeah boii, gimme the sims
solid nova
We gave the correct advice 😂
zealous dew
hehe
trying 5 bosses 40s now
go glaives go!
meh need more targets for glaives
trying 9 bosses 20s
solid nova
Suppose it makes sense with the consistency of damage you get instead of a burst
Didn't really hold much value to 900glaives
Learn something new huh
zealous dew
yup
it's worth going back farming 930 glaives tbh
they might even proc, mine never did
i'm gonna compare a mastery stick now
solid nova
Especially for teeming - fortified etc - they'd pop off.
wise frigate
Damn. Seeing that makes me glad I got 940 glaives out of a random ass heroic I did.
zealous dew
too bad we have 2m vanish
would be cool 1m30 to align with glaives
like sub boyz
sticks:
back to 5T 40s
to see if sticks get better
warm parcel
123
zealous dew
5T 40s
warm parcel
Id assume thats just a mistake by the editor
safe matrix
Was it ever truly great?
zealous dew
#sub ftw
vestal wren
i am for weak as mod
safe matrix
I wonder if tom ever became a mod if he'd calm down and become the light that this discord needs
Or just go on a mod rampage
I'm assuming the rampage
solid nova
That's the equivalent of giving a child a lit dynamite and expecting him to blow out the fuse
quick ice
For the 30 min until he gets removed RH would be a very interesting place though
50/50 on whether anyone survives
safe matrix
Nice virus kiddo
sharp viper
very trustworthy link
warm parcel
Thats what spam bots do
safe matrix
Should we ping @gaunt moat ?
solid nova
Can anyone delete the link before some space cadet clicks it <@&224906552333697025>
warm parcel
munkaS
safe matrix
A full shadowblades ping monkaS
solid nova
Valid use imo
frigid briar
Someone just got it
turbid oxide
Deleted
edgy cosmos
Would replacing a 935 relic with master assassin for a 960 gushing wound for the ilvl boost? prob not but i wanted to be safe
solid nova
Can sim the difference on raidbots mate
jovial kite
@vestal wren me too
edgy cosmos
i didnt know u could sim relics
solid nova
jovial kite
Lets make it happen
solid nova
@edgy cosmos If you get stuck simming the relics just shout
solid nova
Post your results mate
edgy cosmos
i did its the link
solid nova
I dont see anything 😄
edgy cosmos
its red for some reason
solid nova
Resend it
frozen pecan
theres no link
solid nova
Its an unsent message
astral sundial
you didn't sim for MA...
astral sundial
the anthology? ye forgot I have 940 of it
warm parcel
-1ma -1tb +1gw +1alc
edgy cosmos
so did i do it right or nah
astral sundial
ye you did right and clearly shows a dps loss to use it
warm parcel
no what
frozen pecan
lol what
edgy cosmos
yes
gilded lark
gaunt moat
@safe matrix was at gym 
ionic cypress
I have a question that hopefully someone can answer. On the Ravenholdt guide for Antorus, it specifically says "Use cloak if you get Sleeping canister, it will completely remove it." I’ve been looking at this particular part of the guide for a while (as in months), and have been wondering if that means you don't have to move out (if you do happen to have CoS up and can use it in that moment). I know there is a chance that the person(s) who wrote this guide didn’t feel like they had to specify “move out,” but reading over the guide as a whole, I got the sense that much of it is pretty specific/clear… making me think that they would have added “Move out first.” If it’s really true that you can use CoS, great… but it seems counterintuitive as I would expect that using CoS/pally bubble/etc would remove the buff from the player, but then everyone around them would be afflicted by slumber gas. I’ve watched a lot of replays of many different rogues on Warcraft logs, and have yet to see any rogue even use CoS during that phase of the fight (wondering if they just got that part of the guide totally wrong?). Of course I could have tried this out months ago, but at the risk of becoming the most hated melee on my team, I’m being a pussy. Halp.
Please don't eat me alive.
kindred forge
Wow...... My eyes
vivid bone
my eyes went bleed spec
vestal wren
you dont need to move out with canister just use cloak
kindred forge
Fuu...how the fuck you read up so quickly this wall????
vivid bone
^
rain pewter
cuz fuu is an educated man
ionic cypress
guess it's too early in the morning to post this
vestal wren
🤷 fast reader
rain pewter
he has transcended kindergarten levels of reading
vivid bone
how
vestal wren
btw. you could have just asked:
do i need to move out with sleep canister then using cloak
that would have been suefficient
kindred forge
This is bad mojo man........ BURN HIM
ionic cypress
well the last time i asked something that simple i got completely chewed out on here
rain pewter
we are all dirt and ants in the eyes of our shadowblade overlords
ionic cypress
figured id give my full logic behind it
vivid bone
see what happened now though Pmsing
solid nova
@ionic cypress If you've been reading it for months, Why didnt you just test it
ionic cypress
shrug i cant win
rain pewter
ravenholdt is like a box of chocolate, you never know what you'll get
vivid bone
lol
ionic cypress
as i said at the end... im too much of a pussy to piss off my raid team
vestal wren
cmon dont bash
solid nova
I'm asking a genuine question
vivid bone
How can you be pissed off by that though
ionic cypress
i bitch enough about people not even moving out with sleep canister and me losing 21 sec uptime on that fight, i dont want to be "that person"
rain pewter
I F R A M E S
vestal wren
but sin does not use dfa 🤷
vivid bone
Still good to know Fuu
rain pewter
it does
untill some retardo tank stands in your designated landing spot about to get hammered
vestal wren
yes i know that, :feelsbadman: when you get bombed every try bc. one of the tanks dont understand the strategie
stark heart
@ionic cypress you have to be fast tho and apply cloak before sleep landed on you
shrewd oriole
ionic cypress
lol...
stark heart
Although I dunno if I can dispell it after it landed
shrewd oriole
You get a wa
vestal wren
there is a wa helping a lot
shrewd oriole
As soon as it targets you
stark heart
But you have to precloak
shrewd oriole
You cast cloak
stark heart
So it would miss
shrewd oriole
Tadah
stark heart
Bw flashes for me
shrewd oriole
Well
stark heart
vivid bone
Never too late to start
shrewd oriole
You should
solid nova
Doesn't mean you cant
shrewd oriole
🤷
ionic cypress
im stubborn and only use dbm
vivid bone
they can be very useful
ionic cypress
cuz i have to now in this day and age
rain pewter
weakauras are gucci
shrewd oriole
You can always change
rain pewter
use them
shrewd oriole
From your sinful ways
vivid bone
I wouldn't call it stubborn though.
shrewd oriole
Just gimping Yourself tbh
Weak auras are in my opinion the only addon you need in wow
vestal wren
well you can theoretically do everything with it as you can write in lua code
rain pewter
"Change is good." -Kha'Zix, League of Legends champion
shrewd oriole
Exactly
vestal wren
tho i have to agree, wa is rly good in supporting you with information where you need it. if you dont use it you set yourself unnessecerly back
shrewd oriole
During progress I had several bosses where I disabled bigwigs
Cuz our RL just made was
For everything
vestal wren
bw/dbm provide partly to much information
shrewd oriole
Absolutely, easy to disable some stuff tho
vestal wren
sure but the majority use it with the out of the box settings
shrewd oriole
At this point in farm 70% of my bws stuff is disabled
Well yeah
That’s their own fault tho
Ahah
shrewd oriole
Too much info is better than too little info imo
vestal wren
sure
vivid bone
perfection
ionic cypress
eventually i know i'll have to... im doing fine for my ilvl right now but i know that days coming
shrewd oriole
It’s just that there’s no reason not to lol
vestal wren
you dont need to, it just helps you bc. you can exactly focus on the things you need
e.g. you miss out a cterian cast always -> create a weakaura that pops up as a reminder
ionic cypress
yeah i know... just feel like that takes some of the challenge out of it... im exang (yeah.... i know) and dont mind checking my bleed times
vivid bone
But you don't have to have your bleed times in WA
you can just put some other stuff in WA's
things that are more difficult to track or that annoy you
ionic cypress
yeah i know.... and ive been thinking about that just for concordance and what not
vivid bone
exactly, what is stopping you?
ionic cypress
but the stubbornness has not been suppressed enough yet
shrewd oriole
Using weak auras doesn’t make you a worse player lol
ionic cypress
literally stubbornness lol im that person who was pissed when addons came out
shrewd oriole
They’re all things available in the base ui, in a clearer way
As far as tracking dots is
Obviously if you get into custom lua code there’s all sorts of shit
ionic cypress
im not saying people are bad for using them... i just think this game is getting easier and easier and i like to keep it what it was as much as i can
vivid bone
Even then it's stuff already available from the game
shrewd oriole
Do you have cutting edge?
ionic cypress
nah i am brand new to mythic raiding... and really dont have the gear for it but my team is nice enough to take me... have the worst worst worst luck getting gear
i think its more to do with being exang though... finding something thats an upgrade is near impossible
done plenty of heroic/normal raiding in the past, just not mythic
lone junco
K
shrewd oriole
^
Your guild is 5/11M
Of course the game seems easy
It’s meant to be easy
For people who play like you do
ionic cypress
damn you guys are taking this personally now
shrewd oriole
Don’t you get how your speech is condescending
The game is easy and weak auras make it even easier
So I don’t use them 😎
ionic cypress
no i think its maybe being taken a certain way because no one likes to think that they are trying to play the easiest way
astral sundial
but then again most ppl here will tell you how easy the game is right after they did some top 99% log so don't take @shrewd oriole seriously
shrewd night
That hole of yours
ionic cypress
listen, as i said before... i am nostalgic and, although many people like the game the way it is, i miss the way it was
i am not judging you guys jesus
ionic cypress
just saying the way I like it
steep obsidian
the actual mechanics of bosses are hard as hell
shrewd night
Enjoy classic when its out then 🤷
steep obsidian
unless you are doing them 6 months after rlease
shrewd oriole
Yet you keep saying the way it used to be as if the game was harder
steep obsidian
on a lower diff
shrewd oriole
I love the way the game used to be
ionic cypress
im talking abotu the game as a whole
shrewd oriole
Don’t say the game is easy now
ionic cypress
arent you a bunch of guys?
shrewd oriole
Cuz if the game is easy now vanilla was a cake walk
steep obsidian
well is stuff being more grindy and annoying count as it being more difficult?
shrewd oriole
No
steep obsidian
time gates etc on everything?
shrewd oriole
Having to grind weapon skill doesn’t make the game hard
ionic cypress
you are too sensitive
astral sundial
I think want thing that confuses ppl about the difficulty of the game is that current heroic is what used to be at the level of non HM ulduar
ionic cypress
i wouldnt have taken it that way
shrewd night
First lesson of statements - Dont contradict yourself