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we just leave our warrior dead until execute tbh
in progress
wl is another story
wl in legion was so broken since affli buff in EN
its not even fair
lol leaving warrior dead till execute
xd
foking broken ability
π€ i remember warrior TC saying arms is not tuned to high
1/5 of the fight, then pops as 2nd dmg done
looking at argus mythic, he was #1 in damage pre execute phase and #1 with 3x the damage of other even execute classes during execute
#balanced
π
i d like if they remove soak shit or make others fit there aswell.
i like rogue having utility but its kinda odd that most dps are just for dmg (like warrior)
they already blacklist things for us
and some need to carry. i like that u can carry but its also lame at some point in farm
e.g. vari cos
yeah that was fine
and commanding shout π
they did perfect job in antorus
but then argus came
:o)
would have been too perfect
to make soak not be an issue
i think NH was besides the big legendary issues the best raid
Argus wasnt killed with arms warriors in the beginning
no endboss was
you get one arms
and 4-5 rogues
thats why rogue is #1 melee
and not arms
π
@spare cloud i didnt talkt about first kill^^
for kj 2 were fine
if you look outside of the box
but still need like 4-5 rogues
not "need"
you just took classes that can cheese the chains
but it increases your progress
Method had 2 arms didnβt they?
1
And 5 rogues
so every class that couldnt was a no
fraggy wasa benched
Lol
as damage was not a big concern
Unlucky
Ofc im not talking need, I'm talking hardcore progress where you want the most optimal setup
doesnt rly matter if its world race or top 20-30
world race indicators often which is most efficent to progress with
*indicates
or w/e the word is
7.. lol
5
we had 4
furry not arms^^
yeah 5 would have been perfect
and no it would make it insanely strong
u didnt play fury for kj
im looking forward to our all leather group runs.
however this is with the premise that you dont need to cheese
@fast nacelle any time on alpha yet?
Yeah well you took an arms warrior with fr for kj
for good on demand burst
for argus fury because of execute
I think method said that revvez did like triple the dmg second place did
in execute phase
hehe ^^
well there is still iirc the bug that you have infinite mantle
on KJ
and yes worrier was rly good in legion, however still has lower soaking abilities then rogue
im stressing my main pick for bfa.
only have time for 1 toon, but want a really strong M+/raid combo
idk i wanted to consider going back to healer. was my first dps main since wotlk anyway. usually i m a healer
but if any rogue spec is fine i prob stick with rogue
rogue has 6 or so builds. so something is gonna be good right?
DH losing the aoe stun is nice.
i doubt that all 3 rogue specs are bad
i like the rogue specs and if they dont change too much i m happy staying rogue
up to now:
sin -> gets even simpler
otl -> we will see
sub -> a bit slower
but we have no neck up to now and only 1 azerite item
i didnt even look up the changes. i ll wait for last month and then we'll see π
notable change: anticipation is now mfd
yes
and moved mfd there
its a good change
anti was rly irrelevant
you could have played it in antorus with high crit
but overall rly useless
I like mark, but could never drop VR for it.
it was the go-to for sub with the finality bug
then VR/TB/Ex will be a choice.
ye bugfix killed it
yup
i liked the idea of buffering cps
i was a big fan of MP vs EP
ds is to similar to anti
played a round a lot with EP when others didnt
even if it had no practical use
and sitll playing EP Subterfuge with insignia right now
Tyra 
with good results
iirc weak palys anticipation atm
same as memeblade in tomb. played a lot of memeblade insignia in tomb during farm and had good results
or sisters
The lvl 90 tier is pretty solid choice overall
and avatar
ik he used anticipation in that 100% env log
My first maiden kill was gloomblade mfd
Same with 100 with exceptional of hidden blades
@manic vigil sup

same
They were fun
dfa was forbidden
gloomblade mfd ftw
Lol
π
good old times
faster ShT?
i like how they still made venom rush or w/e its called
not baseline
the current last tier talent on assa
still so much nonsense left
i thought it is baseline now
π€
baseline aka must pick 
90 talent
in @lone junco 's pic
why though.. why?
same like alacrity for outlaw
why?
well you can go full π€ mode now with mp-ns-vigor-venom-pb
good
but hey we get despacito
1
zzz
1
zzz
3

poison bomb is literally the only st talent π
I'd pick pb for aoe as well
just to tell you that you will not lose this special love of yours
I have 100% procc chance when I need it anyways.
i'm falling asleep
pb most likely is top parser in st cleave and aoe
so no point in picking anything else
Pb mfd synergy π
its the only Single target relevant talent in the row
yea
unless you want to use your fok on st or apply crimson tempest
Lol. No one there to kill the adds.
yes
how to parse 101, solo adds
Not enough cheese
improve your pb skills
in a pug
@turbid harbor i love m4d synergy. too bad legion was like you can have mark or energy, not both.
mfd is a welcome t45 talent for all 3 specs
NS Rupture opens π
do we already know if some legendaries become baseline?
will be fun to optimize for sub π€ π
It feels better for outlaw still
It was the most fun part of outlaw.
Other specs have buttons to press in aoe situations
wrecking tiny shit with cleave on.
image sub:
storming adds, multidotting, dfaing and mfding
π‘
Dfa will want you to take deeper strat
not nessecerly
they removed quite some damage amps from sub
Unless thereβs a very specific situation
depends on Coming soon
having long symbols cooldown will be the biggest hit
Still need to see how itβll be tuned
I like RTB with low 2ndaries. we'll see how it smooths out.
lets see how the balance casino works out
in legion i made it perfect.
starting as outlaw for m+ and EN and then moved to assa π
Long symbols as well yea
yeah. I followed the deeps.
Maybe azerite neck thing will give some
this was the balance casion in legion ;)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/378775020756926467/428139601958404096/distribution.png
Outlaw for lvl/EN then Sin for ToV and Nh, then Sub for ToS. then Sin for Antorus.
I made it perfect as well
guarm got me.
Warrior when it was good
I started as sub
I was so fucking mad at outlaw for guarm
i still have nightmares of valeeras and prydaz
Xd
Zero chance I would be holding sprint for a dps cooldown
I started with Sephuz/prydaz rip me.
my fetish was to collect all useless legos first
same
i got mantle 8th, boots 10th in tos farm
10 legos in tos what a casual
First 2 legendaries on my account were both prydaz
so whole progression for first 3 raids for me was screwed by legos
hpal was so fucking strong, this expac (M+) and ours played about 7 M+ total.
i think i had most legendaries of any rogue since NH
or like.. very close
i was always 2-3 legendaries ahead of no lifer
I finished all legendaries mid tos
got my first one from blingtron a week ago
in tov i h ad a phase where it went crazy
bligtron legos are best
i got like assa bracer + boots in 1 week
then outlaw bracer 1 week later
we had "harz 4 raids"
every wed 12 am
doing every raid
π
I remember killing the tier cloak boss in nh and I swapped loot spec to outlaw to remove a relic
Legendary from random chest in the world
I was really mad about the weight of Mythic boss Bad luck protection over heroic. the orange rate sucked.
those early spreadsheets had it like 8:1
or how about that 4 legendary soft cap
that was fun when all 4 of my legendaries were shit
HAHA yeah
oh ye i feel you lok
the legendary legendary soft cap
well it does not seem like they repeat that issue
"just farm"
"just enjoy the game :)"
~blizz
2 weeks later:
"uhm yo btw guys...uhm...yeah well...we changed smth about legendary caps"
and the only ones that had 5 were the people that had the other bug that made you get extra legos at the start
lol
I mean there technically wasn't a cap
it wasn't
"ill randomly give x guy you compete with +25% damage and a βΏ for thier mistakes" ~ also blizz
they should have had the currency system from the start.
mathematically you were allowed to get one
it was fucking gross to farm that long
bad luck protection just stopped happening when you had 4
and im sure 1/10 mio got his legendary
so they were technically right
there is no cap
it was still super shitty though
it was fucked up
amanthuls^^
i was triggered anyway
like i had shit outlaw legs
then i saw guarm and knew im gonna prep assa
went 1 dungeon votw for relicts.
ONE
and i got assa cloak
i pmd them and was like: dudes
i cant seperate loot from legendaries can you delete it and give me outlaw one?
my guild has seen exactly 1 aman'thuls
"just farm :)... dont worry too much"
between all our alts and raiders
~blizz
i was so fucking mad
i legit did 1 dungeon with assa
and got my last lego 1 week ago
we have 0
so it was unlikely to get another one
I know a guy that had 2 1month in
its 0.1% drop so whatever I guess
we got one amanthul on our wl who had 984 ilvl anyway
fun fact: he was 4 weeks behind with his normal trinket and when everyone was 1k trinket for 1 month he was at 995 and got it b4 he hit 1k pantheon
rofl my guildies other guild legit had on argus prog a guy with 960 panth
guy just didnt give a fuck to do argus
yeah same
why use pantheon then
its not that good without itemlvl
i want it on my dh
our GM is gonna /disband if they force PL. its gonna be a fun summer
nothing special just standard its 1k you use it
as it looks now they force pl in hc but let you trade without conditions
increase loot time by like 3-5mins. cool
so you can trade all loot instead of only things where you have higher itemlvl
doesnt pl drop more loot than ml
yes a bit more.
yes it does
like 5 instead of 4.
we ran 1 raid and all the gear went to the wrong places
I got haste stuff. Warrior got crit stuff
was a cool run
will be fun in the top guilds :trollface:
one of our guildies alt has like a 995 weapon
he doesnt have 1 clear of heroic
when we did personal on alt run at start of tier
and ML controlling loot distribution while clearing trash is >> > > > > > > everyone standing around passing shit around.
i think forced pl in hc is fine
it is not.
its not in mythic
guild loot fixed the "problem"
we xferred to a server for Guild loot.
distribution under a 85% or even 100% gulid condition should be up to us.
pugs are forced PL now anyway
besides, this is only to break your splits. So effectively, you spitters ruined it for everyone else.
if anything is "ruined"
i would rather they put raid lockouts account wide.
you can split still
I don't think any fix should be more widespread than the "problem"
than force PL
just have enough classes that can trade
and this doesn't even fix the splitting problem if you can trade without restrictions under forced PL
right, just slows it down.
and then that one person in your guild
you know who he is
won't pick up the item
and just get it postmastered to him
neat
That's a damn fine idea.
if it works like current personal you won't see it if your not the one who won the item
and it won't pop up in the middle of your screen until he loots it
true
i mean yes you could probably go with full inventory then
its more or less
I dont want to deal with passing shit around
with no ilevel requirement you are just going to trade everything to the loot master
and use whatever loot system you normally use
assuming no one on your raid team decides to not loot the boss
will break our addons .
you mean BoP?
XD upse ye
If it is tradeable. I will be mad at the one fucking plate warrior in a sea of leather dps.
wasnt sloot asking the dev guy yesterday or 2 days ago
about this pl thing change
I dont do sloot.
and they said it has nothing to do with split runs
they specifically said it did
probably walking back the stance then
like "welll we want to make sure that everyone involved in the kill has equal chance to get loot"
so fuck you new guy that just showed up and gets a WF Socket wep
or +35ilvl TF trinket
this shit makes me so mad. we have been using the same loot system for like 5 of our 10years raiding.
the +10 from a potential WF is still pretty significant
since the weapon damage problem seems to be fixed in BFA
so everyone will care about having a real weapon
Blame the neckbeards with the free time to do split runs. Ruining things for us casual babies with full-time jerbs and responsibilites.
Reeeeeeeeee
good luck with attendance. show or not. there is no reward for farm runs.
and like always its not final so just π
you guys talking about the new wep thing in BfA w/ no tittyforges for the wep ?
n how it actually matters for us how godo the wep is? XD
look fuu, at least you M raid, im sure youre decent ilvl n geared
i am literally the only important person int he entire wow universe
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/247365553 1:31 @lone junco
Nir im 964 and i dont M raid so its pretty impossible for me to get any higher π dont complain
dont know how to timestamp it sorry
isnt it gear button, copy link @ this time?
probably, never tried
but im assuming you have a full M tier set right fuu?
yes
at least ist all 965
opened chest 3 times now
any decent trinkets? aka shadowsinged?
i have 960 vari one
sweeping scourge thingy?
#lucky
just get 970 hov crit stick like me
easy
If you dont count tier most of my gear is from weekly chest or cache
all my gear is still 945 in H so stop complaining >.< https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/area-52/jiyugata
i dont comptet for top world ranks so i am fine with not beeing 970
I dont M raid and I'm 971... you must be unlucky tbh
i have a 930 iron relic =.=
wait we cant complain about not having wf/tf, but you can tell us to stop complaining when you don't even M raid
I have 8 960 iron relics in bags you want some
That's your own damn fault you have 945s
true

you choose to be worse
its their own fault of they are
yeah, that's their own fault

hehe yea... got that outta cache
i just cant m raid cause of work
my guilds 11/11 M n i can join if i can not work =.=
965 in heroic gear is probably around the peak anyways, higher gear would just require you to get same items tf
not like youre actually missing loot
o yea i forgot i had that thing
got that week 1 XD

look every other tier i have is 945 alright
you seem annoyed
"Your point was annoying" "You seem annoyed" Well fuck me, I guess that's how it works
good i shoulda nnoy you more

I don't ree to scrubs kek
you kinda are right now
Naw, just letting you know, You're bitching to the wrong people. If you want better gear, go get it. If not, kindly don't bitch π
totally fine with being king of the scrublords
dont see a "no bitching" rule anywhere, pplz can complain anywhere they wanna
maybe you should find a guild that doesnt raid your working hours
instead of farming ap
If you work shifts thats not easy
they just get roasted is all
but you brought this up because they were bitching
Yeah but people reeeeeeeeeally don't like to see people just ... whining.
I cry ever tim
Cry all dayyyy
meh, i did my bitches, other pplz wanan roast me thats fine
@onyx falcon why do you have 21 heroic argus kills?
Nobody is roasting you
everyone cries all day when we dont get our tittyforges or our gear we want
No one roasted you tho ?
@lone junco i name changed
thats a lot of kills
probably selling it noobe
I think your perception is distorted
and just downed it everyweek
Gotta get yerrr trinket > _> eventually.
look i need my 985 socketed leech EoC or else im just gonna complain
can you imagine not getting it after 21 kills
Isn't Jiyugata a Method Rogue?
@calm grail nope just some scrub
Nah just a POSER :3

o_o
@onyx falcon i guess youre group did some Mythic Tomb and NH to push you well above the heroic curve. so you were overgeared going into heroic.
mizerok, gimme the original simyosef kpop gif or diaf

Shouldn't you have?
@lone junco i didnt raid M ToS either, i did M ToS after ABT came out though
that's the new one, I hate it 
yes I should have mizerok
getting outpbed hard on aggramar by my fellow assa rogue π¦
but your delete caught me by surprise
Well here's another chance? - https://i.imgur.com/zUbmPZy.gifv

tysm β€ xoxo
whats your secret
No touching yourself.
right side is mine π¦
oh that's a keeper as well fuu
who did you sacrifice
@lone junco isnt 21 argus kills about right since ABT came out? (trying to count now...) it came out around end of november
lol is that mine
I know it's old fuu, I just never saved it π
Can't complain when the game carries you... I suppose.
i rmb having a rly good pb day
its about right, maybe 1 or 2 extra
any of your decent parses carried you by PB
You legit have some of the highest PB %s I've seen
@onyx falcon its prob about right. you capped ilvl about the same range as me. I guess thats just where heroic stops. 964 ish
ever feel like you killed it too fast?
My warrior is 963
Yeah there's a place where your RNG runs out on Titanforging.
And he hasnt seen mythic as well
and you just can't get much further.
i mean what is the point after Argus?
and he still has shit gear
_ >
we stopped wod after about the 3rd archi kill cause /meh
and looks like we are done after 4 Argus kills
argus was way way way easier than archimonde tho
π @plain thistle
Yeah what is the point with raiding
I actually did the first 5 bosses with a pug 1 time

What is the point playing the game anyway
but thats it
What is the point with living
First Coven kill was a PUG > _>
@spare cloud prepping next tier, but at the end, when there is no more bossing coming, time to take a rest.
I missed tyra
gonna read up on all he said 
Save alts for times like these.
I don't need a rest from a game I play for enjoyment
weve been going solid since 8/2016. so thats a pretty good run.
ok I get you only raid heroic but it took your guild 3 months to clear it or what
my affli is catching up as well. and I still suck at playing it 
Gotta get good somehow.
wot if me too stoopid dou?
You don't need to act stupid
Bang your head until you are too stupid to parse on your main.
we already know you are
should be: sim-<slap> your- <slap> self
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
your dominant alpha

Cleared normy day 1. and first few heroic bosses day 2. we finished argus mid feb.
yeah and inbetween? how many hours of raiding per week is that
do you have 100 wipes on heroic bosses or what

2 days.2.5hrs.
this conversation isnt gonna end well
If you can't be rank 1 with 1 hour raiding time per week you're bad anyways π€·
Tom can tell.
Because people suck at it.
They suck at actually having an argument.
I mean gear curve aside and everything else do you really notice gear in antorus before lets say vari
practice might help
Hey here's some logic.
YEAH BUT WHY ARE YOU STUPID?!
instead of "oh noe, that subject is too touchy, lemme run away"
I remember wiping to vari enrage in heroic on pugs at start
for those interested
Nope.
last time we talked about this
Not interested β€
haha

"I think that a high stat crit ring might be better for bleed build" "YES FUCK YOU TOO YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE!"
Should enchant it.
25 ilvls btw
_>
since chat is frisky today
how do i get out of damn plat in OW
16k dps is what 300 mastery
Rlyer, where are you at?
OW 
@echo estuary Drop to gold
16k is +- 15ilv
Tisumi stuck in plat
on a ring
in OW
So whaddaya need to know about the ring?
@fervent beacon what?
im 2.8 atm all gold every game cant do more
Are you progressing in mythic or?
it was mythic aggramr
@civic palm He made the point today that ring active is worth 25 Ilvl
no im 11/11 since like 3 weeks ago why
just 11/11 3 weeks ago?
8h/week
Damn you must have a lot of pulls in between.
still bad
8h/week and only cleared 3 weeks ago?

americans cant even 9/11
π€
classic
Yeah but he's on the REAL difficulty.
Yeah but he got a bj on first date
I do 2.6M in coven 
yeah just press fan
They did coven without me this weekend because I was getting swollen at gym
I do 2M because our tanks like tanking them in different rooms.
Ryler can you post your sick logs please
I mean do you have 20 dot classes?
have a dps tank it
I'd like to see
yUnoCheese?!
π
orc 
goblin
π
l o l
World of FashionCraft
^
can outlaw cleave both bosses on coven
The natural evolution.
on m
Outlaw can cleave all 5
With AcroStrikes, probably.
Idiot
you can even hit both with insignia
haha
Got the Mythic mission board to kill Coven last Monday after raids were over.
π
not me
Clearly.
Yellow boi.
Interesting dance this guy is doing - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/270941889702789121/432575577212583938/SmartSelect_20180408-122033_Chrome.jpg
do i change any talents for dungeons aoe and shit?
As SIN not really.
Can pick up Leeching Poison if you do not think that you will die without Cheat Death.
ok thank you
π
share this 2p4p wisdom
If you have 2pc t20 you go Hemo
hemo
no bully me or i will beat you guys up
can play boots shoulders aswell

boots only going to gain over shoulders in the very long boss fights. but we all pray for our lord and savior bombs
coven i mean
I usually get the blame for not fully reading questions, not it this time > _>"
@shrewd oriole i cba. Ill pass this time. maybe save my nerd rage for another time.
For when BfA Alpha releases...
and we still have...
THESE SHIT TRAITS
PLEASE CHANGE THEM
OR I WILL POST ON REDDIT AGAIN
to more people, for the Alpha even.
I was thinking Beta, typed Alpha, kinda weird.
This is just more proof that we're incapable of multi-tasking.
nah. All trash pulls in M+ as sin should be done as shoulder/+ based on restealth frequency.
Who asked for the Ret. demo?
I keed. I like sin a lot.
@lone junco yea sometimes, if i down argus w/ my guild on H we usually phase (2) just before or at orb 3
just grab one and try
Ya
I logged out in sub, but seems like glaives beats it substantially
the fat mastery might be nice for the sin cleave though
ahahahahahaha, high command
that's disgusting! congrats!
what the actual ....
well no it's normal
st poison bomb is about 8-9% of ur dps
so if it proc at a normal rate
on 4 target
Incorrect, about 6-8%
depends on mastery
that's still not how this works 
9% for me
thats assuming that the other cleavers in your raid didnt get there first
lol
best AHC parses have about 10 dead people

π
What did I just read
When are we expecting late tier nerfs?
at prepatch
But considering PB is 9% of damage, if it's on 4 targets shouldnt it be 36%????
so end of may or something
Im just kidding about that btw. Prepatch is like july. and will prob make some gods, wreck others.
hmm. I think It should be 50%.
so many cool avatars and yet your twitch profile pic is still the noseless abomination 
toph
lot of trolling players
you mean you ?
what if we move the boss. away from the pb. does that get a -1%?
if I'm hitting 10 targets
asking for a friend.
does that mean pb is 200%
No.
sim it
Quickfired that shit
I love this so much you have no idea π
if you think 20% is normal- I want to know what you're smoking
link ur logs
link it
i'll check ur pb bomb proc
here let me make something easy for you
should be an easy 13-14% avg
look, anything under 300% PB is just bad luck

@prime void im on it.
he's confused because you are using the wrong legendaries
though that would never ever ever occur stacked for duration.
the real parse mechanic for AHC is the other cleave in your raid.
so lets not pretend that you get 5 mobs stacked for anything more than 10 sec.
damn you got a nice murder crew going there mizu 
made me lol
it's not very interactive
lol
What
you dont even have your st pb proc on averg
the 750 pulls of argus was better with mog
Tf does this mean
zz
I'm just not used to looking at logs where almost all dps are actually performing good or above
fat bombs
π€·
@prime void did you sell this run to all these people?
maybe not the enhance at the top
you only did 32% pb on sivraz mizu, plz play your class better for overall fight ty
I had a fucking 15% PB on mythic vari which is ST for most of the time and it was a wipe

need to rng a bit harder
no
because 32 x 4 is over 9000
same. but its called my guild
14% on ST actually

LOL
rofl that is funny because it's true right noobe
no point arguing with bad loggers
also hits way too close to home 
LOL
bad logger

tf is sivraz
I love this guy
doesn't link his wcl
shots fired

yeah get outta here you pleb
Clearly its bad because your PB is shit
show me your rank 1s and multi top 10 logs
GIT GUD
cleave is funny.
What a funny boi
he fucks em up good
Uni
never going to get better opening than this
did you see just warrior things just now
@fervent beacon yeessssss
no I was drooling over mizu's logs 
thats a DH opener
"rerolling orc in BFA like.."
Why do you have so many kills on the early bosses but so few on the later ones
by that merit
Ist missing his argus kill
he also got bad with gear https://i.imgur.com/RLTS9ZR.png
ijs
I wonder if there's a correlation between pb and rng? π€
For rogue parsing alliance is better
Why is discord full of more shit than usual today
why do we just love to judge people today
there is shit in here? 
Discord has been full of shit for months
just depends on when you hop in
Its either good players getting muted for stupid shit
richard such a bully 


